From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  1 06:12:10 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Fri Jul  1 06:12:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
In-Reply-To: <BEE9F4B8.2167B%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F156A888FFD5556AF16D9BEB2E20@phx.gbl>

I tend to agree with Michael here, that cutting lines weakens the show - 
perhaps not cutting one or two, but to remove Hair's "offensive" lines (and 
please do note the quotes on that word, as i don't find it anywhere near 
offensive, myself) is to remove the core of Hair. It's why one can get into 
a good discussion (which if we're lucky we'll have here soon - hey Ross?) 
about doing Hair in a highschool setting.

Perhaps a discussion with people about the fact that being in a show is 
about acting and notabout  getting up on stage and being yourself. There are 
many rolesb in many shows where it is likely that the actor playing that 
role doesn't agree with the position of the character they are playing, or 
with the lines they have to say to portray that character. Good acting comes 
from finding some common ground with that character in order to play it in a 
way that is convincing. But I am sure that anyone playing, for the sake of 
discussion let's say Hitler, doesn't agree with many of the things that his 
character has to say. If these performers take a look at the overall message 
of Hair - peace, freedom, racial & sexual equality - I am sure that they 
will agree with those messages, and so if an "offensive" line or two is what 
it takes to get that message across, perhaps they will be more comfortable 
with saying them.

Just my two cents...
Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html



>From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 19:12:56 -0700
>
>Keep the lines true to the authors original works.
>Michael


From jameshburns at webtv.net  Fri Jul  1 12:10:45 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Fri Jul  1 12:11:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005
	12:00:09 -0700
Message-ID: <18181-42C59535-4094@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>


Not to state the obvious--

And if this has already been covered, forgive me--

But have you simply put a casting notice in ALL the local papers?

If your local paper doesn't normally run theatre notices, all you should
have to do is call the editor, ask who covers arts, and ask them to run
the casting item.

THERE IS NOT A COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT HAVE SEVERAL
YOUNG PEOPLE JUST ACHING TO BE IN A SHOW.

If it comes to it, and I simply cannot believe that word HAS gotten out,
you can use an African American who may not be strong on singing, but
who IS an actor.

AGAIN:

Every community has teenagers and twenty-somethings longing to be
involved.

And by getting the word out, and casting them, you'll also be performing
a mitzvah (an old Native American word, of course...).

Jim


From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  1 13:42:50 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  1 13:43:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV151E3B812901358B05C8C2ABE20@phx.gbl>

Tioga...

You are too too special to ever be mad at, this list is for all HAiRy things and especially you must speak your mind with all the good you do for the vets and all.... As Michael says he (I as well) know where your head is....

peace

-----Original Message-----
From: Sibley Smith
Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:12:25 -0700
To: Butler, Michael - HAIR List
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your friendlier response to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner for this and that.  And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply.  Good-natured ribbing (as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal family) tends not to be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point to the point I made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes it.  The majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak his peace.  And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the valid point that it at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've taken would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So, you can't not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not HAIR-related, because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the List, but you'll mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding paranoid enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to Gerald, and to Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar, for my getting all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe
=================================

Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:16:51 -0400
From: "fotoblue@flash.net" <fotoblue@flash.net>

Good Sunday morning,  Michael,

We should not be limited to political and purely HAIR reltaed topics here 
Are we not all multi-facetted people? 
With many interests - and a "love and devotion" to HAIR?

I have sent photos I wanted to share, and probably some responses and ideas
not 
entirely "hairy" - so what?
 I like to hear about  personal stuff going on in our tribes, it brings us
all closer.

not every message interests me, of course, so I skip across it.

Lighten up, Tioga Joe. As you saw from my response ot Gerald, 
I didn't agree with all that was suggested in his message, 
but I would not tell him NOT to send something he finds interesting.

I would have attached a photo I took yesterday of a young Javelina 
sitting in our birdbath 
(a much too small bathtub for it!)  -
but maybe I'll just send it to a few people directly. 

(Nina: it's coming!)

Our temps have been above 100F, so animal behaviour gets modified. 
Maybe it's the summer heat that makes some of us more irritable than we
usually are

Love and peace

 Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ...


Sorry to be so long in responding. I am responsible for sending Gerald's
stuff.
There has been so little Hair centric activity since the days of Pentacle
and WMH I wonder if it is worth the cost?
Most political stuff now goes to Civic. It was started in response to Shaw's
flame out. Occasionally I do post something about our political scene.
I am sorry but I got into Hair because of politics in  a time when it was
child's play compared to today.
So let us hope we again see some theatrical use of this list.
Michael



> Gerald, Gerald,
> 
> "Great Tip"?  What's this tip have to do with HAIR?  Sure, it's useful
stuff
> ... to keep bees away and sh**.  But, can't you just clog up the
mailboxes of
> your personal friends by sending this sort of stuff to them only, and not
> further dilute the value of the MB-HAIR List as a tool for learning about
and
> discussing things HAIR?
> 
> I'm sorry, Everybody-else-on-the-List, for my making a scene in
expressing my
> dissatisfaction with one's use of the HAIR List to spread SPAM (no matter
how
> "helpful" it may be).  But, damnitall, this kind of cr** is what pushes me
> (and no doubt other serious HAIR-heads) away from this association --
because
> the association becomes no longer HAIR-centric.  When it becomes more a
place
> just for feely-goody chit-chat about "Hints from Heloise"-type better
> housekeeping, it loses its credibility.
> 
> Oh, I could go on, but, I'm sure I adequately made my point (I must have,
> because I first wiped my computer screen and keyboard with a sheet of
Bounce!
> : )
> 
> Anyway, Everybody-Who-Is-Not-Gerald-Gerald, please pardon my rant.  Gerald
> Gerald, come on, admit it -- you deserved it.
> 
> Wearily,
> 
> Tioga Joe
> 
> ====================
> 
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gerald Gerald <dekuyper@sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Bounce this around!
> 
> Great Tip....Who woulda thought?
> 
> 1.  My mail carrier told me that the US Postal service
> sent out a message to all letter carriers to put a
> sheet of Bounce in their uniform pockets to keep
> yellow jackets away.
> 
> [ And 19 other reasons that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with HAIR! ]
> 
> ======================


From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  1 13:52:18 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Fri Jul  1 13:53:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair
In-Reply-To: <18181-42C59535-4094@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F23ADFFD8BB324892ADD498ADE20@phx.gbl>

Thanks Jim,

I started out with notices in the papers, and on the radio, and even word of 
mouth.

But I am finally close!  Keep your fingers crossed!! I met with the head of 
one of the Pentacostal church choirs and then met with three young ladies 
and three young men from his church.

They are going to listen to the music and talk about it, and then get back 
with me.  It could be awesome!

I have heard a few people say, "I can't believe..." that there is no 
interest from the Black community.  I agree. I find it hard to believe 
myself.  But I am learning that old grudges die hard and there is a deep 
distrust on both sides.  Isn't that sad, that there can be two "sides" in 
2005.

I'm continuing with the door to door approach tomorrow, so wish me luck.  I 
know it's going to work out.

Thank you all for your support.

peace.
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  1 13:55:22 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  1 13:56:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV6BC776826A4F3B87C0BA7ABE20@phx.gbl>

Dear Katie...

I applaud your dedication and work ethic.... hang in there and heed Ninas words... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 13:52:18 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair

Thanks Jim,

I started out with notices in the papers, and on the radio, and even word of 
mouth.

But I am finally close!  Keep your fingers crossed!! I met with the head of 
one of the Pentacostal church choirs and then met with three young ladies 
and three young men from his church.

They are going to listen to the music and talk about it, and then get back 
with me.  It could be awesome!

I have heard a few people say, "I can't believe..." that there is no 
interest from the Black community.  I agree. I find it hard to believe 
myself.  But I am learning that old grudges die hard and there is a deep 
distrust on both sides.  Isn't that sad, that there can be two "sides" in 
2005.

I'm continuing with the door to door approach tomorrow, so wish me luck.  I 
know it's going to work out.

Thank you all for your support.

peace.
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  1 14:06:53 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Jul  1 14:07:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair
References: <18181-42C59535-4094@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c57e80$ce99d970$6e436c42@hotprojects>

now when i said the same thing 
i was somehow evil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Burns" <jameshburns@webtv.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Casting the Carolina Hair


> 
> Not to state the obvious--
> 
> And if this has already been covered, forgive me--
> 
> But have you simply put a casting notice in ALL the local papers?
> 
> If your local paper doesn't normally run theatre notices, all you should
> have to do is call the editor, ask who covers arts, and ask them to run
> the casting item.
> 
> THERE IS NOT A COMMUNITY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT HAVE SEVERAL
> YOUNG PEOPLE JUST ACHING TO BE IN A SHOW.
> 
> If it comes to it, and I simply cannot believe that word HAS gotten out,
> you can use an African American who may not be strong on singing, but
> who IS an actor.
> 
> AGAIN:
> 
> Every community has teenagers and twenty-somethings longing to be
> involved.
> 
> And by getting the word out, and casting them, you'll also be performing
> a mitzvah (an old Native American word, of course...).
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
From rgrady at rcn.com  Fri Jul  1 14:24:29 2005
From: rgrady at rcn.com (Ross Tatum)
Date: Fri Jul  1 14:26:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Update: LaGuardia H.S.
Message-ID: <000701c57e83$538aad60$1902a8c0@Grady>

Hi everybody,
Just wanted to give you an update and wish everyone a groovy 4th. We had
an exciting production meeting just before summer break. I could hardly
contain myself! Our set designer came up with some great ideas regarding
scaffold units, towers and a catwalk above the pit. (Natalie has
expressed the importance of The Magician-Tarot Card image on scaffold).
The pit will remain covered so we have a bit more extension into the
house. Our band will probably be on stage, preferably center, similar to
the Public's production. We're shooting for making the interior of the
concert hall environmental (like the Fillmore or Avalon Ballroom).
Student ushers will be part of the tribe dressed in 60's attire and
interacting with audience members. Nat and I will be getting together
over the summer to go over Tams-Whitmark script; prep for auditions and
rehearsals. I'll also be going up to Mass. to see Barrington production
of Hair and spend time with Nina going over archives. Right now, all
these creative ideas are diamonds in the ruff. But, oh man! am I shining
with excitement! Many thanks for your support. Crazy for the Blue, White
and Red!
Peace and Love,
Ross
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  1 14:29:14 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Fri Jul  1 14:29:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
In-Reply-To: <00b001c57dc0$cc050100$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F7F97A65E4CBAC0AE4E863B2E20@phx.gbl>

SIb wrote:

>That crabby ol' Injun,
>Tioga Joe

Sweetie, we love you crabby or not. We're just glad to have you with us 
always.

Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair


From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Fri Jul  1 14:35:07 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Fri Jul  1 14:55:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ...
Message-ID: <001e01c57e84$c05bed40$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:06:12 -0700
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>

Tioga Joe,

Love it and any time, You will never say anything that would offend me. I
know where your head is at.
Peace and Love,
Michael

==========

Thanks, Man.  Listen.  Maybe you can tell me where it IS at.  I think I misplaced it -- my head, that is.  -- Oops!  Never mind.  There it is.  I found it.  : )

Happy Independence Day, everybody! (or, at least, "muh fellow Amerikins")  I'll make my usual appearance in the Ocean Grove 4th of July Parade tomorrow, Saturday, July 2 (Look for me, Dauber!).

Hippiely yours,

Joe de Tioga


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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Fri Jul  1 16:10:39 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Fri Jul  1 16:30:26 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
Message-ID: <007d01c57e92$18ece330$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Dear Katie,

BTW, technically speaking, I'm still officially Southern Baptist ('though I consider myself these days to be more of a Southern "Bupdhist" -- kind of a combination of Southern Baptism, Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism, and nudism).  Yep, I was baptised at age 8 at Paradise Baptist Church in the Paradise section of Tioga, and my "letter" of membership, as they call it, should still be in some file at Kingsville Baptist Church -- 'round the corner from Tioga, Bottom-Edge-of-the-Bible-Belt, Louisiana.

Anyway, emphasize to them the power HAIR had in its early days (and still has today) to thwart the bigoted, racist mindset that became so stereotypical of our South (took 'em, what, almost 40 years to finally nail the KKK guy who orchestrated the murder of those Freedom Bus Riders / Civil Rights activists in Mississippi?  Yeah, as in the story behind the movie, "Mississippi Burning").

The words of the black characters in HAIR ("youths," as were Claude, Berger, et al. of the Tribe) express anger and frustration -- their sardonic, sarcastic tone and use of ... "adult" language best expressed that frustration with how slow American society was in being the "all men are created equal" society it purported to be.  It was becoming harder to have the patience of Gandhi, as did the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  One who was polite and always minded his/her manners and language, particularly in the company of white folk, was labeled "Uncle Tom."  And, while an Uncle Tom might help white people feel less threatened by black people, he surely won't cause them to accept blacks fully into their society.

Anyway, ... hippies got the point of this black expression.  Here's a take of mine on male's long hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag fly," and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long hair as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of the African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant (to me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.  I was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants, "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side show, much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs sent to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no less and maybe more so than were the average black.  No.  I take that back.  I was still white, and I KNOW I had it much easier, hair and all.  But my hair symbolized (to me, anyway), my political opinions run counter to a society that segregates and abuses the rights of select segments of its population, treating them like, ... like freaks.  I wore the Freak Flag.

It was a way of showing my desire for an inclusive community.

And the words of HAIR in its heyday DID spread the "groovy revolution" to so many of us, including certain redneck Joes in the backwoods Tiogas of the deep South.  And while things aren't perfect yet, one's gotta admit, there's been a helluva lot of positive change, since the days of HAIR's Original Broadway Cast production, in the area of Civil Rights.

So, what I'm beating around the bush about is, the argument can be made that the very words voiced, according to the official script, by the black characters in HAIR were words that directly contributed to so many benefits of society that African Americans enjoy today, but that they could not before the heyday of the countercultural "revolution," the "Days of Hope and Rage," the days of HAIR.  Rado and Ragni's words in HAIR ought be respected as your new friends respect the Gospel.  

Can I get off this damn soap box now?

With love,

Tioga

==================

Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:36:10 +0000
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>

Bless you Tioga Joe,

I found a center in the projects today and went to talk to their director.
so, i met about 5 African American singers from a local church..

which brings me to an issue that may only apply in the bible belt where I 
live.

Most of the black actor/singers belong to pretty intense churches.
That equals an awesome choir and also a pretty dogmatic sense of 
christianity.
pentacostal...Southern Baptist...
say no more.

I don't want to take out "emanci-mother-fuckin'-pator of the 
slaves"...that's one of my favourite lines.  punches you in the gut and 
makes you feel good about it.

advice?


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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  1 16:40:24 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  1 16:41:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: Leonard Peltier Transferred to Terre Haute -
	IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUESTED
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV186C689B9DFA71BA4851C0ABE20@phx.gbl>

Leonard's prison number if asked and you should want to call regarding attachment enclosed...

#89637-132

Thsi is part topic and part NOT since  Leonard is Native American and has been a part of discrimination for years.

peace,
barbara

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Fri Jul  1 16:46:58 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Fri Jul  1 17:06:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
References: <BAY5-DAV151E3B812901358B05C8C2ABE20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00ff01c57e97$2c095de0$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Thank you, Dear Barbara.

With love,

Tioga

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:42 PM

Tioga...

You are too too special to ever be mad at, this list is for all HAiRy things
and especially you must speak your mind with all the good you do for the
vets and all.... As Michael says he (I as well) know where your head is....

peace

-----Original Message-----
From: Sibley Smith
Sent: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:12:25 -0700
To: Butler, Michael - HAIR List
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on
using fabric softner for this and that.  And, yeah, it did make me a bit
self-conscious about my reply.  Good-natured ribbing (as we oughta be able
to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal family) tends not to be
perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point to
the point I made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one
who believes it.  The majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought
to be able to speak his peace.  And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!
So, you can't not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the
premiss it's not HAIR-related, because, if it's related to you, it's
HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me!
(am I sounding paranoid enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean
I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you,
dear Dagmar, for my getting all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )
No, just me -- had a bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe
=================================

Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:16:51 -0400
From: "fotoblue@flash.net" <fotoblue@flash.net>

Good Sunday morning,  Michael,

We should not be limited to political and purely HAIR reltaed topics here
Are we not all multi-facetted people?
With many interests - and a "love and devotion" to HAIR?

I have sent photos I wanted to share, and probably some responses and ideas
not
entirely "hairy" - so what?
 I like to hear about  personal stuff going on in our tribes, it brings us
all closer.

not every message interests me, of course, so I skip across it.

Lighten up, Tioga Joe. As you saw from my response ot Gerald,
I didn't agree with all that was suggested in his message,
but I would not tell him NOT to send something he finds interesting.

I would have attached a photo I took yesterday of a young Javelina
sitting in our birdbath
(a much too small bathtub for it!)  -
but maybe I'll just send it to a few people directly.

(Nina: it's coming!)

Our temps have been above 100F, so animal behaviour gets modified.
Maybe it's the summer heat that makes some of us more irritable than we
usually are

Love and peace

 Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:54:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ...


Sorry to be so long in responding. I am responsible for sending Gerald's
stuff.
There has been so little Hair centric activity since the days of Pentacle
and WMH I wonder if it is worth the cost?
Most political stuff now goes to Civic. It was started in response to Shaw's
flame out. Occasionally I do post something about our political scene.
I am sorry but I got into Hair because of politics in  a time when it was
child's play compared to today.
So let us hope we again see some theatrical use of this list.
Michael



> Gerald, Gerald,
>
> "Great Tip"?  What's this tip have to do with HAIR?  Sure, it's useful
stuff
> ... to keep bees away and sh**.  But, can't you just clog up the
mailboxes of
> your personal friends by sending this sort of stuff to them only, and not
> further dilute the value of the MB-HAIR List as a tool for learning about
and
> discussing things HAIR?
>
> I'm sorry, Everybody-else-on-the-List, for my making a scene in
expressing my
> dissatisfaction with one's use of the HAIR List to spread SPAM (no matter
how
> "helpful" it may be).  But, damnitall, this kind of cr** is what pushes me
> (and no doubt other serious HAIR-heads) away from this association --
because
> the association becomes no longer HAIR-centric.  When it becomes more a
place
> just for feely-goody chit-chat about "Hints from Heloise"-type better
> housekeeping, it loses its credibility.
>
> Oh, I could go on, but, I'm sure I adequately made my point (I must have,
> because I first wiped my computer screen and keyboard with a sheet of
Bounce!
> : )
>
> Anyway, Everybody-Who-Is-Not-Gerald-Gerald, please pardon my rant.  Gerald
> Gerald, come on, admit it -- you deserved it.
>
> Wearily,
>
> Tioga Joe
>
> ====================
>
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gerald Gerald <dekuyper@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Bounce this around!
>
> Great Tip....Who woulda thought?
>
> 1.  My mail carrier told me that the US Postal service
> sent out a message to all letter carriers to put a
> sheet of Bounce in their uniform pockets to keep
> yellow jackets away.
>
> [ And 19 other reasons that have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with HAIR! ]
>
> ======================



From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Fri Jul  1 18:27:04 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Fri Jul  1 18:27:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
References: <200507011900.j61J09Cu020950@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <004d01c57ea5$27423080$6501a8c0@Leo>

T. Joe,
Yeah, yeah I hear you. First I don't deliver the goods in Bridgeport and now 
THIS. What's an aging hippie freak, HAIR head supposed to do? Thanks for the 
laugh my brother. I'll getcha back at La Mama. Meanwhile I'm just gonna zap 
you with some spam mojo!! :-)

PEACE,
Leo

From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...


...............................for my getting all bitchy and all.  It's all 
Leo's fault.  : )....................................................

 That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe
 =================================


From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Fri Jul  1 18:34:18 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Fri Jul  1 18:34:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair Lake Region Theatre - Leo
References: <200507011900.j61J09Cu020950@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <005001c57ea6$29fd3c60$6501a8c0@Leo>

 From: Debbie Andrews <songsters@earthlink.net>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair Lake Region Theatre - Leo

 Hey Leo,

 Have a wonderful be in !! All circles seems like a cool idea...

 love.love
 Debbie A
 ------------------------------

Thank you Debbie and all you other HAIR freaks for the well wishes. Things 
are getting very exciting now (with our HAIR powwow only a week away) and 
I've just started my first official vacation of the summer. A bunch of us 
are going to see the Sunday matinee of HAIR at Lake Region and I'll be sure 
to post my thoughts. And you're right Debbie, there's definitely something 
mystical & magical about circles. It all has to do with connectiveness.

PEACE,
Leo


From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Fri Jul  1 18:53:38 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Fri Jul  1 18:54:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind 
References: <200507011900.j61J09Cu020950@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <005301c57ea8$dd6beb50$6501a8c0@Leo>

> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind

......................... Perhaps a discussion with people about the fact 
that being in a show is about acting and not about  getting up on stage and 
being yourself. There are many roles in many shows where it is likely that 
the actor playing that role doesn't agree with the position of the character 
they are playing, or with the lines they have to say to portray that 
character............................

 Love,
 Nina

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I totally agree with Nina here; this is definitley a great approach.
To expound just a tad, I'm just a heterosexual guy but was cast as Sidney 
Bruhl in DEATH TRAP. Part of that role entailed kissing a guy on the lips. 
The director told me if I didn't want to do the kiss we could do a hug 
instead. I thought about it for about a week cuz initially the idea bothered 
me but I finally thought, "What the hell, I'm an actor playing a role. This 
has nothing to do with my sexual preference or orientation. I've played a 
pediphile, a murderer, a wife abuser, etc. I never had a problem playing any 
of those roles; in fact, I never even thought about it. Why should 
portraying a homosexaul (bi-sexual actually) bother me?" So we kept the kiss 
and I think the production was more faithful and real because of it.
Viewed in this manner maybe the black brothers and sisters from the church 
will rise to the occasion. Like Nina said you're not "being yourself".
BTW, I have many friends who are gay and I love em all so please don't read 
anything into my message that's not there. Love is love! Nuff said.

PEACE,
Leo 


From nycrjmac at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  1 18:53:55 2005
From: nycrjmac at yahoo.com (RJ Mac)
Date: Fri Jul  1 18:54:43 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
In-Reply-To: <007d01c57e92$18ece330$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>
Message-ID: <20050702015355.17637.qmail@web84007.mail.dcn.yahoo.com>

Well...  it's less than two cents worth because my
coments are free, but if I'm understanding it right,
the potential performers are only being approached to
participate in a production.

According the how I'm reading the post, the
apprehension that changes might be wanted is ahead of
actually meeting the people.  I'd think about that
apprehension and exploit it fully into every corner of
your production.  Whatever you think you're afraid of,
or what you think someone else might be afraid of: put
it in the spotlight.  See what happens.  That's one of
the things the show does so well.

As far as should material be adjusted to fit the
discomfort of the performers, sometimes this can be
done in original work or with the cooperation of the
original authors; but Tams-Whitmark/Sam
French/Dramatists etc. all specifically state policy
on changes of scripts in their production agreements. 
So, you're legally obligated to the
emanci-mother-fukkin-pater of the Script.

rj



> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:36:10 +0000
> From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
> 
> Bless you Tioga Joe,
> 
> I found a center in the projects today and went to
> talk to their director.
> so, i met about 5 African American singers from a
> local church..
> 
> which brings me to an issue that may only apply in
> the bible belt where I 
> live.
> 
> Most of the black actor/singers belong to pretty
> intense churches.
> That equals an awesome choir and also a pretty
> dogmatic sense of 
> christianity.
> pentacostal...Southern Baptist...
> say no more.
> 
> I don't want to take out
> "emanci-mother-fuckin'-pator of the 
> slaves"...that's one of my favourite lines.  punches
> you in the gut and 
> makes you feel good about it.
> 
> advice?
> 
> 
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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  1 22:24:30 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Fri Jul  1 22:25:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] mystic crystal revelations
In-Reply-To: <20050702015355.17637.qmail@web84007.mail.dcn.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3387492EEF905194D662DEADE50@phx.gbl>

Hey RJ,

I really appreciate your comments.
I have been putting the spotlight out there, and so far (from actual 
encounters, not just supposed fear)
have I gotten censure and some looks that might translate into "aghast"...
but you are absolutely right.  bring on the spotlight then.  i'm slightly 
terrified, but i guess that's the only way to really grow and find something 
genuine. I have been trying to please everyone...and I certainly can't.

i wish i knew everyone on the list, like everyone else seems to- that is an 
awesome bond.
My cast and I are extremely blessed to be doing this show at this time and 
in this town;
and bringing the psychadelic to the stoneage!

peace, truth, and freedom from the American way.

k


From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  1 22:50:41 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Fri Jul  1 22:51:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
In-Reply-To: <007d01c57e92$18ece330$5264a8c0@njdmava.state.nj.us>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F20A948D14D4A38E2A0575CADE50@phx.gbl>

Dearest Tioga Joe,

You have articulated what my heart has felt. (Nina, Leo, Barbara, Michael, 
Richard, Sherwin, RJ too)

I'm no longer afraid.

Thank you. You are elders in my tribe.

i wish you were all here so I could take you to the waterfall up the 
mountain from my parents house.
My cast and i will do a ritual and send some great vibes out to 
everyone...so get ready for some love from afar on Sunday night :)

Peace and love,
Katie

<html><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT face="Garamond, Times, Serif" color=#cc00ff><EM>ALOHA NUI 
LOA! <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" 
width=12></EM></FONT></html>


From bev at beverlybremers.com  Sat Jul  2 00:47:40 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Sat Jul  2 00:48:30 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
Message-ID: <20050702074740.6C17B4F50E@ws6-5.us4.outblaze.com>

Well said!! Katie, everyone's giving you GREAT advice, which we all hope
is helpful. You'll have your struggles, but they will be well worth it in
the end. Good luck, oh brave, enlightened sister!!

Beverly



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Sibley Smith"
  To: "Butler, Michael - HAIR List"
  Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
  Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:10:39 -0400

Dear Katie, BTW, technically speaking, I'm still officially Southern
Baptist ('though I consider myself these days to be more of a Southern
"Bupdhist" -- kind of a combination of Southern Baptism, Nichiren Shoshu
Buddhism, and nudism).  Yep, I was baptised at age 8 at Paradise Baptist
Church in the Paradise section of Tioga, and my "letter" of membership,
as they call it, should still be in some file at Kingsville Baptist
Church -- 'round the corner from Tioga, Bottom-Edge-of-the-Bible-Belt,
Louisiana. Anyway, emphasize to them the power HAIR had in its early days
(and still has today) to thwart the bigoted, racist mindset that became
so stereotypical of our South (took 'em, what, almost 40 years to finally
nail the KKK guy who orchestrated the murder of those Freedom Bus Riders
/ Civil Rights activists in Mississippi?  Yeah, as in the story behind
the movie, "Mississippi Burning"). The words of the black characters in
HAIR ("youths," as were Claude, Berger, et al. of the Tribe) express
anger and frustration -- their sardonic, sarcastic tone and use of ...
"adult" language best expressed that frustration with how slow American
society was in being the "all men are created equal" society it purported
to be.  It was becoming harder to have the patience of Gandhi, as did the
Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  One who was polite and always minded
his/her manners and language, particularly in the company of white folk,
was labeled "Uncle Tom."  And, while an Uncle Tom might help white people
feel less threatened by black people, he surely won't cause them to
accept blacks fully into their society. Anyway, ... hippies got the point
of this black expression.  Here's a take of mine on male's long hair as a
political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag fly," and as
hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long hair as
being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of the
African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they
were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant
(to me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The
Establishment.  I was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded
ladies, giants, "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to
the circus side show, much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in
with the Draftee GIs sent to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated
by the Establishment no less and maybe more so than were the average
black.  No.  I take that back.  I was still white, and I KNOW I had it
much easier, hair and all.  But my hair symbolized (to me, anyway), my
political opinions run counter to a society that segregates and abuses
the rights of select segments of its population, treating them like, ...
like freaks.  I wore the Freak Flag. It was a way of showing my desire
for an inclusive community. And the words of HAIR in its heyday DID
spread the "groovy revolution" to so many of us, including certain
redneck Joes in the backwoods Tiogas of the deep South.  And while things
aren't perfect yet, one's gotta admit, there's been a helluva lot of
positive change, since the days of HAIR's Original Broadway Cast
production, in the area of Civil Rights. So, what I'm beating around the
bush about is, the argument can be made that the very words voiced,
according to the official script, by the black characters in HAIR were
words that directly contributed to so many benefits of society that
African Americans enjoy today, but that they could not before the heyday
of the countercultural "revolution," the "Days of Hope and Rage," the
days of HAIR.  Rado and Ragni's words in HAIR ought be respected as your
new friends respect the Gospel.  Can I get off this damn soap box now?
With love, Tioga ================== Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 01:36:10 +0000
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
Bless you Tioga Joe,

I found a center in the projects today and went to talk to their
director.
so, i met about 5 African American singers from a local church..

which brings me to an issue that may only apply in the bible belt where I
live.

Most of the black actor/singers belong to pretty intense churches.
That equals an awesome choir and also a pretty dogmatic sense of
christianity.
pentacostal...Southern Baptist...
say no more.

I don't want to take out "emanci-mother-fuckin'-pator of the
slaves"...that's one of my favourite lines.  punches you in the gut and
makes you feel good about it.

advice?


>
>
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From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Sat Jul  2 07:31:42 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Pat Leahy: The Senate Is Not a Rubber Stamp
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul  2 07:32:34 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul  2 07:33:14 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] mystic crystal revelations
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV21AD2EF801DB559B872CA9ABE50@phx.gbl>

Wow Katie I truly wish I lived closer to you. How far is it from Phila., PA area? Just wondering what the drive time would be to help you make some rounds to various places you might not feel to comfortable in at first?

peace,
barbara

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:24:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] mystic crystal revelations

Hey RJ,

I really appreciate your comments.
I have been putting the spotlight out there, and so far (from actual 
encounters, not just supposed fear)
have I gotten censure and some looks that might translate into "aghast"..
but you are absolutely right.  bring on the spotlight then.  i'm slightly 
terrified, but i guess that's the only way to really grow and find something 
genuine. I have been trying to please everyone...and I certainly can't.

i wish i knew everyone on the list, like everyone else seems to- that is an 
awesome bond.
My cast and I are extremely blessed to be doing this show at this time and 
in this town;
and bringing the psychadelic to the stoneage!

peace, truth, and freedom from the American way.

k


_______________________________________________
Mb-hair mailing list
Mb-hair@islandlists.com
http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair


From jameshburns at webtv.net  Sat Jul  2 07:46:21 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Sat Jul  2 07:47:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Pat Leahy:  The Senate Is Not A Rubber Stamp
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Fri, 1 Jul 2005
	12:00:09 -0700
Message-ID: <28679-42C6A8BD-2828@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>

 
 
This morning, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor announced her retirement from
the United States Supreme Court.

This is a momentous time in our nation's history. The next justice will
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The Constitution requires that the President seek the Senate's advice
and consent in making appointments to the federal courts. As a Senator
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this responsibility very seriously.

America must maintain separate but equal branches of government. Neither
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In recent years, the President has chosen a path of confrontation rather
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Once again, the power to avoid political warfare over a judicial nominee
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The process begins with him.
President Bush will decide whether there will be a divisive or unifying
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The President can unite the nation and the Senate with his choice, or he
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Join me in calling for meaningful consultation between the President and
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If the President chooses a Supreme Court nominee because of that
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the Supreme Court should not be an arm of either political party. It
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If the right-wing activists who were disappointed that their nuclear
option was averted convince the President to choose a divisive nominee,
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We need to send a message that the Supreme Court should be above such
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to keep you up to date on the Senate's deliberations. If you would like
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Thank you,

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Ranking Democratic Member, Senate Judiciary Committee
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Sat Jul  2 11:29:27 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sat Jul  2 11:30:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
	musings...
Message-ID: <283310-22005762182927316@M2W063.mail2web.com>

Hi Joe, 
no longer crabby ole injun?

 thanks for your long missive, 
you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace. 
(us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)

You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
than it is read. 
It can get very complicated.
 Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven. 
All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe! 

Did you see the javelina picture? 
I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
;-)
If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!

Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -

stay cool - see pic!

Pace and Love,

 Dagmar


-----------------
From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...


Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response 
to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
for this and that.  
And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply. 
Good-natured ribbing 
(as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
family) tends not to 
be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
to the point I 
made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
it.  The 
majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
his peace.  
And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it 
at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken 
would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
you can't 
not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
HAIR-related, 
because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll 
mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
paranoid 
enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to 
Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
for my getting 
all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul  2 12:06:57 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul  2 12:07:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary
Message-ID: <BEEC33E1.21777%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Katie,

Besides all the excellent input from so many RJ, TJ, Leo, Nina, Beverly etal
You might also give them a list of key African Americans who were in HAIR
starting with Lamont, Ben, Philip Michael, Stan, Larry and many others who
escape the memory. 

Hud is such a key role.

XO Michael
-- . "Found", he said, "a world youth parliament. The Russians, the Chinese,
the black people in Africa - everyone has to become a member. If those will
not become a member now but later, you must start now - a world youth
parliament." The second thing I should found was a cosmic religion. He said,
"Religions, for 2000 years, have forfeited their purpose. They made a pact
always with political powers to grow their own religious power. You found a
world youth parliament and a cosmic religion." Albert Einstein 1954



From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul  2 12:29:37 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul  2 12:30:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Update: LaGuardia H.S.
In-Reply-To: <000701c57e83$538aad60$1902a8c0@Grady>
Message-ID: <BEEC3931.2177E%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Sounds great,
Don't forget the Yellow
Have a great 4th
Peace and Love,
Michael
--"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither." Benjamin Franklin




> Hi everybody,
> Just wanted to give you an update and wish everyone a groovy 4th. We had
> an exciting production meeting just before summer break. I could hardly
> contain myself! Our set designer came up with some great ideas regarding
> scaffold units, towers and a catwalk above the pit. (Natalie has
> expressed the importance of The Magician-Tarot Card image on scaffold).
> The pit will remain covered so we have a bit more extension into the
> house. Our band will probably be on stage, preferably center, similar to
> the Public's production. We're shooting for making the interior of the
> concert hall environmental (like the Fillmore or Avalon Ballroom).
> Student ushers will be part of the tribe dressed in 60's attire and
> interacting with audience members. Nat and I will be getting together
> over the summer to go over Tams-Whitmark script; prep for auditions and
> rehearsals. I'll also be going up to Mass. to see Barrington production
> of Hair and spend time with Nina going over archives. Right now, all
> these creative ideas are diamonds in the ruff. But, oh man! am I shining
> with excitement! Many thanks for your support. Crazy for the Blue, White
> and Red!
> Peace and Love,
> Ross
> 
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul  2 14:28:55 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul  2 14:29:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
	musings...
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV4B3C568816B72594708C8ABE50@phx.gbl>

Hello Dagmar,

Are those two ordinary house kittens? OR some kind of foreign cat? They are very different looking.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: fotoblue@flash.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:29:27 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

Hi Joe, 
no longer crabby ole injun?

 thanks for your long missive, 
you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace. 
(us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)

You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
than it is read. 
It can get very complicated.
 Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven. 
All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe! 

Did you see the javelina picture? 
I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
;-)
If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!

Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -

stay cool - see pic!

Pace and Love,

 Dagmar


-----------------
From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...


Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response 
to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
for this and that.  
And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply. 
Good-natured ribbing 
(as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
family) tends not to 
be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
to the point I 
made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
it.  The 
majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
his peace.  
And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it 
at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken 
would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
you can't 
not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
HAIR-related, 
because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll 
mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
paranoid 
enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to 
Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
for my getting 
all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe


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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul  2 14:39:14 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul  2 14:40:02 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV13DFCBD78A4A2E3FD3AA41ABE50@phx.gbl>

Let us not forget Ronnie Dyson... :-)

b.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Butler
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:06:57 -0700
To: HAIR List
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary

Katie,

Besides all the excellent input from so many RJ, TJ, Leo, Nina, Beverly etal
You might also give them a list of key African Americans who were in HAIR
starting with Lamont, Ben, Philip Michael, Stan, Larry and many others who
escape the memory. 

Hud is such a key role.

XO Michael
-- . "Found", he said, "a world youth parliament. The Russians, the Chinese,
the black people in Africa - everyone has to become a member. If those will
not become a member now but later, you must start now - a world youth
parliament." The second thing I should found was a cosmic religion. He said,
"Religions, for 2000 years, have forfeited their purpose. They made a pact
always with political powers to grow their own religious power. You found a
world youth parliament and a cosmic religion." Albert Einstein 1954



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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Sat Jul  2 17:48:57 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sat Jul  2 17:49:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
References: <200507021830.j62IUVhZ023605@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <000601c57f68$fe8a9af0$6401a8c0@Leo>

Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and why 
the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more) represents 
freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same freedom. The 
freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and all 
"the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the 
A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant screw 
you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like you, it 
meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black brothers & 
sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind, a 
headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a symbol 
of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or change 
it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make me 
leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal pain in 
one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and raised 
the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also spoke 
volumes about where I was coming from.
In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment), "Laugh 
mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty and my 
principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law & order 
and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
"Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting kinda 
long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why. 
Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it to 
someone!" - CSNY
And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way it's 
supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.

PEACE,
Leo


From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind


  ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's long 
hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag fly," 
and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long hair 
as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of the 
African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they 
were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant (to 
me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.  I 
was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants, 
"little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side show, 
much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs sent 
to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no less 
and maybe more so than were the average 
black.................................

 With love,

 Tioga



From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul  2 18:25:59 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Jul  2 18:26:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
References: <200507021830.j62IUVhZ023605@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
	<000601c57f68$fe8a9af0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <005701c57f6e$2b162990$6e436c42@hotprojects>

thats why i grew my hair long too
but it fell out on top so i have to watch myself
i mean the shakespeare image is okay
but i have to watch myself or i can evoke bozo on the spot
if im not careful

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind


> Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and why
> the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more) represents
> freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same freedom.
The
> freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and all
> "the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the
> A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant
screw
> you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like you,
it
> meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black brothers &
> sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind, a
> headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a
symbol
> of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or change
> it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make me
> leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal pain
in
> one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and
raised
> the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also spoke
> volumes about where I was coming from.
> In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment), "Laugh
> mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty and
my
> principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law & order
> and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
> "Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting kinda
> long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why.
> Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it to
> someone!" - CSNY
> And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way
it's
> supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.
>
> PEACE,
> Leo
>
>
> From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
>
>
>   ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's long
> hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag
fly,"
> and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long
hair
> as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of
the
> African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they
> were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant
(to
> me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.  I
> was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants,
> "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side
show,
> much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs
sent
> to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no
less
> and maybe more so than were the average
> black.................................
>
>  With love,
>
>  Tioga
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

From cpreston1 at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul  2 19:29:20 2005
From: cpreston1 at bellsouth.net (cpreston1@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat Jul  2 19:30:14 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
Message-ID: <20050703022920.MXI25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

Ha Richard,

Thought  I would lite you know that things are ok at  this time. I am living in the north Georgia mountains at this time, still go down to the old home at least twice a week sometimes more. Have problems with the internet up here though. Working on getting DSL to solve problem. I access my old e-mail from here. I do have a new e-mail address for up here it is cpreston2@tds.net. Don't know how long I will be here I am looking for a new home location away from the Atlanta GA area, maybe something close to where I am now but definitely away from Atlanta. Just wanted to let you and all the rest of the tribe know a little of what has changed. Will be in touch.

Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~


> 
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/07/02 Sat PM 09:25:59 EDT
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> 
> thats why i grew my hair long too
> but it fell out on top so i have to watch myself
> i mean the shakespeare image is okay
> but i have to watch myself or i can evoke bozo on the spot
> if im not careful
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:48 PM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> 
> 
> > Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and why
> > the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more) represents
> > freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same freedom.
> The
> > freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and all
> > "the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the
> > A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant
> screw
> > you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like you,
> it
> > meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black brothers &
> > sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind, a
> > headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a
> symbol
> > of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or change
> > it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make me
> > leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal pain
> in
> > one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and
> raised
> > the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also spoke
> > volumes about where I was coming from.
> > In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment), "Laugh
> > mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty and
> my
> > principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law & order
> > and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
> > "Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting kinda
> > long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why.
> > Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it to
> > someone!" - CSNY
> > And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way
> it's
> > supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.
> >
> > PEACE,
> > Leo
> >
> >
> > From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
> > Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
> >
> >
> >   ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's long
> > hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag
> fly,"
> > and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long
> hair
> > as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of
> the
> > African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they
> > were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant
> (to
> > me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.  I
> > was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants,
> > "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side
> show,
> > much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs
> sent
> > to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no
> less
> > and maybe more so than were the average
> > black.................................
> >
> >  With love,
> >
> >  Tioga
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 

From fotoblue at flash.net  Sat Jul  2 22:34:03 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sat Jul  2 22:51:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
	musings...
Message-ID: <183240-220057035343359@M2W044.mail2web.com>

They are wild bobcats, a kind of lynx, their mother had three while our
neighbours 
went to Liverpool on vacation. They came home to this surprise. 
She has them on the roof sometimes, so she's garding the steps leading up 
and my friends cannot go up there now to have their AC fixed!
;-)

Here's the mom!
Beautiful but not something to cuddle up with... see the scar across her
nose?

Freddy is the housecat. he's not allowed outside, or he'll be bobcat-food!
Dagmar


Original Message:
-----------------
From: Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38@msn.com
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:28:55 GMT
To: flash.net.fotoblue@flash.net, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
musings...


Hello Dagmar,

Are those two ordinary house kittens? OR some kind of foreign cat? They are
very 
different looking.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: fotoblue@flash.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:29:27 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
musings...

Hi Joe, 
no longer crabby ole injun?

 thanks for your long missive, 
you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace. 
(us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)

You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
than it is read. 
It can get very complicated.
 Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven. 
All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe! 

Did you see the javelina picture? 
I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
;-)
If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!

Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -

stay cool - see pic!

Pace and Love,

 Dagmar


-----------------
From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...


Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response 
to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
for this and that.  
And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply. 
Good-natured ribbing 
(as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
family) tends not to 
be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
to the point I 
made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
it.  The 
majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
his peace.  
And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it 
at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken 
would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
you can't 
not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
HAIR-related, 
because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll 
mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
paranoid 
enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to 
Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
for my getting 
all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Jul  3 09:58:46 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Jul  3 09:59:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
	musings...
In-Reply-To: <183240-220057035343359@M2W044.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <BEED6756.217E3%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Dagmar,
Super thanks for the pictures.
Wonder, what is going on in Freddy's mind?
XO Michael

> They are wild bobcats, a kind of lynx, their mother had three while our
> neighbours 
> went to Liverpool on vacation. They came home to this surprise.
> She has them on the roof sometimes, so she's garding the steps leading up
> and my friends cannot go up there now to have their AC fixed!
> ;-)
> 
> Here's the mom!
> Beautiful but not something to cuddle up with... see the scar across her
> nose?
> 
> Freddy is the housecat. he's not allowed outside, or he'll be bobcat-food!
> Dagmar
> 
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38@msn.com
> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:28:55 GMT
> To: flash.net.fotoblue@flash.net, mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
> musings...
> 
> 
> Hello Dagmar,
> 
> Are those two ordinary house kittens? OR some kind of foreign cat? They are
> very 
> different looking.
> 
> peace,
> barbara
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fotoblue@flash.net
> Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:29:27 -0700
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
> musings...
> 
> Hi Joe, 
> no longer crabby ole injun?
> 
> thanks for your long missive,
> you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace.
> (us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)
> 
> You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
> than it is read. 
> It can get very complicated.
> Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven.
> All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe!
> 
> Did you see the javelina picture?
> I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
> ;-)
> If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!
> 
> Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -
> 
> stay cool - see pic!
> 
> Pace and Love,
> 
> Dagmar
> 
> 
> -----------------
> From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
> 
> 
> Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
> friendlier response
> to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
> for this and that.
> And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply.
> Good-natured ribbing
> (as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
> family) tends not to
> be perceived as such when written in this format.
> 
> And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
> to the point I 
> made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
> it.  The 
> majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
> his peace.  
> And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.
> 
> And spam disturbs my peace.
> 
> But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
> valid point that it
> at least makes SOMEBODY happy.
> 
> And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
> taken 
> would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
> you can't 
> not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
> HAIR-related, 
> because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.
> 
> So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
> List, but you'll 
> mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
> paranoid 
> enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?
> 
> Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
> Gerald, and to 
> Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
> for my getting 
> all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
> bad-HAIR day.
> 
> Will you forgive me?
> 
> That crabby ol' Injun,
> Tioga Joe
> 
> 
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sun Jul  3 11:26:59 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Jul  3 11:27:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Two Wars of the Worlds
Message-ID: <20050703182659.111DE83D2A@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

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A 9/11 double feature for the Fourth of July.
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Jul  3 12:03:16 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Jul  3 12:04:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] How and Why I Got Into Hair
Message-ID: <BEED8484.21801%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Well, we have had some articles sharing the situation with hair. Those who
lived through the period will recollect how strong the feelings were against
those who wore their hair long. For sure the reason for the name HAIR.
I'd like to add to those stories.
You can start with the last paragraph.
Peace and Love
Michael 

http://www.michaelbutler.com/orlok/michael/jfk.html

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Date: Sun Jul  3 12:12:38 2005
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Sun Jul  3 17:07:29 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sun Jul  3 17:08:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary- Ronnie Dyson
Message-ID: <200620-220057140729890@M2W110.mail2web.com>

Does anybod know when Ronnie Dyson played Hud??

Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38@msn.com
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:39:14 GMT
To: michael@michaelbutler.com, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary


Let us not forget Ronnie Dyson... :-)

b.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Butler
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:06:57 -0700
To: HAIR List
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary

Katie,

Besides all the excellent input from so many RJ, TJ, Leo, Nina, Beverly etal
You might also give them a list of key African Americans who were in HAIR
starting with Lamont, Ben, Philip Michael, Stan, Larry and many others who
escape the memory. 

Hud is such a key role.

XO Michael


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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul  3 17:45:51 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sun Jul  3 17:47:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
References: <20050703022920.MXI25470.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <005d01c58031$bab1e260$6e436c42@hotprojects>

our prayers are with you charles
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cpreston1@bellsouth.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind


> Ha Richard,
>
> Thought  I would lite you know that things are ok at  this time. I am
living in the north Georgia mountains at this time, still go down to the old
home at least twice a week sometimes more. Have problems with the internet
up here though. Working on getting DSL to solve problem. I access my old
e-mail from here. I do have a new e-mail address for up here it is
cpreston2@tds.net. Don't know how long I will be here I am looking for a new
home location away from the Atlanta GA area, maybe something close to where
I am now but definitely away from Atlanta. Just wanted to let you and all
the rest of the tribe know a little of what has changed. Will be in touch.
>
> Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~
>
>
> >
> > From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> > Date: 2005/07/02 Sat PM 09:25:59 EDT
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> >
> > thats why i grew my hair long too
> > but it fell out on top so i have to watch myself
> > i mean the shakespeare image is okay
> > but i have to watch myself or i can evoke bozo on the spot
> > if im not careful
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:48 PM
> > Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> >
> >
> > > Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and
why
> > > the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more)
represents
> > > freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same
freedom.
> > The
> > > freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and
all
> > > "the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the

> > > A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant
> > screw
> > > you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like
you,
> > it
> > > meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black
brothers &
> > > sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind,
a
> > > headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a
> > symbol
> > > of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or
change
> > > it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make
me
> > > leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal
pain
> > in
> > > one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and
> > raised
> > > the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also
spoke
> > > volumes about where I was coming from.
> > > In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment),
"Laugh
> > > mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty
and
> > my
> > > principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law &
order
> > > and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
> > > "Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting
kinda
> > > long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder
why.
> > > Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it
to
> > > someone!" - CSNY
> > > And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way
> > it's
> > > supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.
> > >
> > > PEACE,
> > > Leo
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
> > > Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
> > >
> > >
> > >   ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's
long
> > > hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag
> > fly,"
> > > and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my
long
> > hair
> > > as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend
of
> > the
> > > African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if
they
> > > were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair
meant
> > (to
> > > me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.
I
> > > was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants,
> > > "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side
> > show,
> > > much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee
GIs
> > sent
> > > to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no
> > less
> > > and maybe more so than were the average
> > > black.................................
> > >
> > >  With love,
> > >
> > >  Tioga
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mb-hair mailing list
> > > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> >
>
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sun Jul  3 18:03:31 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sun Jul  3 18:04:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary- Ronnie Dyson
References: <200620-220057140729890@M2W110.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <03e401c58034$3209e090$6e436c42@hotprojects>

ronnie dyson played hud at a pt after lamont washingtons tragic death i
believe? ( circa 1970? )
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fotoblue@flash.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary- Ronnie Dyson


> Does anybod know when Ronnie Dyson played Hud??
>
> Dagmar
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38@msn.com
> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:39:14 GMT
> To: michael@michaelbutler.com, mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary
>
>
> Let us not forget Ronnie Dyson... :-)
>
> b.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Butler
> Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 12:06:57 -0700
> To: HAIR List
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary
>
> Katie,
>
> Besides all the excellent input from so many RJ, TJ, Leo, Nina, Beverly
etal
> You might also give them a list of key African Americans who were in HAIR
> starting with Lamont, Ben, Philip Michael, Stan, Larry and many others who
> escape the memory.
>
> Hud is such a key role.
>
> XO Michael
>
>
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Sun Jul  3 18:16:05 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sun Jul  3 18:22:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary - HUD...
Message-ID: <61750-22005714116531@M2W126.mail2web.com>

Here's a beautiful HUD, 
but weren't they all?

Ronnie Williams in the original Munich cast, 1968, Theater in der
Briennerstrasse!

 He spoke perfect German, even  local dialect.
I remember going to restaurants with a group of HAIR kids, 
and he would order in his broadest dialect.  
In those days that was extremely unexpected.
;-)))
He was Donna's German teacher, theater  mentor and more... 
she was still Donna Gaines then, freshly imported from America.

We had so much fun!
 Ronnie still lives in Munich.

P&L
Dagmar


Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 12:06:57 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary


Katie,

Besides all the excellent input from so many RJ, TJ, Leo, Nina, Beverly etal
You might also give them a list of key African Americans who were in HAIR
starting with Lamont, Ben, Philip Michael, Stan, Larry and many others who
escape the memory. 

Hud is such a key role.

XO Michael
-- . "Found", he said, "a world youth parliament. The Russians, the Chinese,
the black people in Africa - everyone has to become a member. If those will
not become a member now but later, you must start now - a world youth
parliament." The second thing I should found was a cosmic religion. He said,
"Religions, for 2000 years, have forfeited their purpose. They made a pact
always with political powers to grow their own religious power. You found a
world youth parliament and a cosmic religion." Albert Einstein 1954




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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  3 18:27:17 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Sun Jul  3 18:28:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie's Quandary - HUD...
In-Reply-To: <61750-22005714116531@M2W126.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F35F9E7D32E1FE6B02A750DB2E70@phx.gbl>

Thank you Dagmar! What wonderful photos. We are rich this weekend - first 
the lynx family and now these photos. Thank you so much.
Love and hugs,
Nina

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sun Jul  3 23:33:57 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sun Jul  3 23:34:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Charles!!!!
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV257310B8420CDBB14911BABE70@phx.gbl>

Is that you Charles?    Sooo nice to hear from you, missed you at Bridgeport.... :-)Hang in there Brother.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: cpreston1@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 19:29:20 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind

Ha Richard,

Thought  I would lite you know that things are ok at  this time. I am living in the north Georgia mountains at this time, still go down to the old home at least twice a week sometimes more. Have problems with the internet up here though. Working on getting DSL to solve problem. I access my old e-mail from here. I do have a new e-mail address for up here it is cpreston2@tds.net. Don't know how long I will be here I am looking for a new home location away from the Atlanta GA area, maybe something close to where I am now but definitely away from Atlanta. Just wanted to let you and all the rest of the tribe know a little of what has changed. Will be in touch.

Peace, Love, & Blessings to all ~~Charles~~


> 
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/07/02 Sat PM 09:25:59 EDT
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> 
> thats why i grew my hair long too
> but it fell out on top so i have to watch myself
> i mean the shakespeare image is okay
> but i have to watch myself or i can evoke bozo on the spot
> if im not careful
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:48 PM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
> 
> 
> > Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and why
> > the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more) represents
> > freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same freedom.
> The
> > freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and all
> > "the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the
> > A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant
> screw
> > you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like you,
> it
> > meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black brothers &
> > sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind, a
> > headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a
> symbol
> > of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or change
> > it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make me
> > leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal pain
> in
> > one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and
> raised
> > the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also spoke
> > volumes about where I was coming from.
> > In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment), "Laugh
> > mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty and
> my
> > principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law & order
> > and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
> > "Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting kinda
> > long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why.
> > Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it to
> > someone!" - CSNY
> > And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way
> it's
> > supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.
> >
> > PEACE,
> > Leo
> >
> >
> > From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
> > Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind
> >
> >
> >   ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's long
> > hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag
> fly,"
> > and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long
> hair
> > as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of
> the
> > African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they
> > were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant
> (to
> > me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment  I
> > was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants,
> > "little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side
> show,
> > much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs
> sent
> > to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no
> less
> > and maybe more so than were the average
> > black.................................
> >
> >  With love,
> >
> >  Tioga
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sun Jul  3 23:40:48 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sun Jul  3 23:41:43 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
	musings...
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV134F7BD6BF0A1BDC75E9D6ABE70@phx.gbl>

Thank you Dagmar... What beauties.. :-)

Poor little house cat kittie but better to be safe than sorry.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: fotoblue@flash.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 22:34:03 -0700
To: barbarasiomos38@msn.com, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

They are wild bobcats, a kind of lynx, their mother had three while our
neighbours 
went to Liverpool on vacation. They came home to this surprise. 
She has them on the roof sometimes, so she's garding the steps leading up 
and my friends cannot go up there now to have their AC fixed!
;-)

Here's the mom!
Beautiful but not something to cuddle up with... see the scar across her
nose?

Freddy is the housecat. he's not allowed outside, or he'll be bobcat-food!
Dagmar


Original Message:
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From: Barbara Siomos barbarasiomos38@msn.com
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:28:55 GMT
To: flash.net.fotoblue@flash.net, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
musings...


Hello Dagmar,

Are those two ordinary house kittens? OR some kind of foreign cat? They are
very 
different looking.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: fotoblue@flash.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 11:29:27 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
musings...

Hi Joe, 
no longer crabby ole injun?

 thanks for your long missive, 
you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace. 
(us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)

You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
than it is read. 
It can get very complicated.
 Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven. 
All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe! 

Did you see the javelina picture? 
I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
;-)
If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!

Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -

stay cool - see pic!

Pace and Love,

 Dagmar


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From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...


Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response 
to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
for this and that.  
And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply. 
Good-natured ribbing 
(as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
family) tends not to 
be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
to the point I 
made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
it.  The 
majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
his peace.  
And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it 
at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken 
would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
you can't 
not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
HAIR-related, 
because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll 
mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
paranoid 
enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to 
Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
for my getting 
all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe


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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sun Jul  3 23:48:21 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sun Jul  3 23:49:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] How and Why I Got Into Hair
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1880089B7912FF20EBAC49ABE70@phx.gbl>

I love you more every day Michael... :-)

peace and hugs,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Butler
Sent: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:03:16 -0700
To: HAIR List, Civic
Subject: [Mb-hair] How and Why I Got Into Hair

Well, we have had some articles sharing the situation with hair. Those who
lived through the period will recollect how strong the feelings were against
those who wore their hair long. For sure the reason for the name HAIR.
I'd like to add to those stories.
You can start with the last paragraph.
Peace and Love
Michael 

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul  4 10:45:15 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (barbarasiomos38@msn.com)
Date: Mon Jul  4 10:46:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] barbara wants you to see this. 
Message-ID: <200507041745.j64HjFMT029772@server1.truthout.org>



barbara thought you would like this site.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/070105A.shtml

ApplyRefer v2.3



From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul  4 10:50:20 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul  4 10:51:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Sorry if the truthout article was already posted...
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1668CAF93C07CFFE38DB12ABE70@phx.gbl>




From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Jul  4 10:56:13 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Jul  4 10:57:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Sorry if the truthout article was already posted...
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV1668CAF93C07CFFE38DB12ABE70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BEEEC64D.21861%michael@michaelbutler.com>

No problem
Thanks for thinking of us.
Michael

> 
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From michael at intrafi.com  Mon Jul  4 11:58:15 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Mon Jul  4 11:59:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Founding Sachems
Message-ID: <20050704185815.776C883DD7@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

OPINION | July 4, 2005
Op-Ed Contributor: The Founding Sachems
By CHARLES C. MANN
The Iroquois confederation's Great Law of Peace inspired the framers of the American Constitution.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/04/opinion/04mann.html?ex=1121140800&en=baffee966d0b67f5&ei=5070&emc=eta1




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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Mon Jul  4 17:53:59 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Mon Jul  4 17:54:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater
References: <200507041900.j64J08MS029286@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <001401c580fc$07d460c0$6401a8c0@Leo>

A group of 5 of us went last night to see the production of HAIR being 
offered at Lake Region Theater in Meredith, NH. It is with great sadness 
that I write these observations.
First of all the "pit" consisted of a keyboard & drums. The keyboard 
constantly had this church organ type of sound. Nuff said..
The lighting plot was not only unimaginative but minimalistic at best. It 
was poorly lighted with no specials whatsoever. At times tribe members were 
in the dark.No strobes, no blacklights, no colored gels, etc.
The costuming looked as if they went through the costume shop and pulled out 
anything which remotely might work. Berger had some pretty decent threads 
and some of the others were ok but for the most part the costumes appeared 
to be handmade and several of the women wore Rennaisance type dresses 
(probably from some other production). There were precious few beads, no 
flowers, no feathers, etc. The females wore bras and sports bras - not one 
was braless and of course the nudity was cut (read further for an 
explanation).
The set consisted of 3 painters scaffoldings which was groovy but the only 
"dressing" they had were chunks of white material sorta tied around them. It 
looked like someone was getting ready to paint the set (which they never 
did). There were 2 sets of white steps that led up to the scaffolding on 
stage left & right but they too were not adorned with peace signs. slogans, 
flowers, or anything; they were just stark white.
Now the Tribe. I was reading the bios before the show and these actors came 
from all over - Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, etc. Just your 
typical summer stock troupe. But when the show started and the first strains 
of AQUARIUS were being sung I knew we were in trouble. The gal who sang was 
flatting out all over the place; it was actually painful to watch. Berger 
and Claude at least were ok and Sheila had a powerhouse voice but she was 
dressed in this I Dream Of Genie type of outfit. She looked like she 
strolled in from the local harem. Jeannie also had a wonderful voice but she 
was one of the gals dressed in Rennaisance garb. The only song cut was 
SODOMY and every reference to anything potentially "dangerous" (as seen by 
the director I guess) was cut. Emanci mother friggin pator of the slaves. I 
wish it would bloody snow, yeah I wish the frig it would, etc.When Margaret 
Meade wanders off with Hubert she says, "Screw you kids." And Woof doesn't 
hump the poster of Mick Jagger. Claude never dropped his British accent (I 
suppose this is at least forgiveable) but it bugged me. WHAT A PIECE OF WORK 
IS MAN was a travesty! I have no clue why they chose these 2 people to sing 
it. There were many better vocal choices; it was absolutely terrible. The 
camaraderie was totally missing; even when they sat in groups there were 
spaces between them. No touching, hugging, etc. There was a neat moment 
during the Be-In where thet were carrying people around over their heads and 
it was really wonderful; it elevated that sequence above all the others. The 
passion just seemed to be missing. Most of this I off on the director; I 
just don't think these kids "got it". I always tear up during 3-5-0-0 (right 
Joe?) but I wasn't feeling it in this production. The song tempos seemed to 
be ass backwards. Tunes that were normally fast were slowed down and vice 
versa. I did start to tear up during FLESH FAILURES and I was happy about 
that but then Claude came out in a WWII uniform. Agh!!!
The last freaky thing was that HIPPIE LIFE was listed as curtain call music 
but they did play LET THE SUNSHINE. At the end, as we exited the theatre, 
the Tribe was standing in a line receiving well wishes from patrons and all 
done out of character!
On the ride home the 5 of us talked about it and I wasn't the Lone Ranger in 
my opinions. I was glad to see HAIR but this production left me bitterly 
disappointed.
Sorry to send such sad tidings. But I always look forward to the next one.

PEACE,
Leo 


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Jul  4 18:21:29 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Jul  4 18:22:30 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater
In-Reply-To: <001401c580fc$07d460c0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <BEEF2EA9.218A1%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks, Leo
Well, win some, lose some.
XO Michael

> A group of 5 of us went last night to see the production of HAIR being
> offered at Lake Region Theater in Meredith, NH. It is with great sadness
> that I write these observations.
> First of all the "pit" consisted of a keyboard & drums. The keyboard
> constantly had this church organ type of sound. Nuff said..
> The lighting plot was not only unimaginative but minimalistic at best. It
> was poorly lighted with no specials whatsoever. At times tribe members were
> in the dark.No strobes, no blacklights, no colored gels, etc.
> The costuming looked as if they went through the costume shop and pulled out
> anything which remotely might work. Berger had some pretty decent threads
> and some of the others were ok but for the most part the costumes appeared
> to be handmade and several of the women wore Rennaisance type dresses
> (probably from some other production). There were precious few beads, no
> flowers, no feathers, etc. The females wore bras and sports bras - not one
> was braless and of course the nudity was cut (read further for an
> explanation).
> The set consisted of 3 painters scaffoldings which was groovy but the only
> "dressing" they had were chunks of white material sorta tied around them. It
> looked like someone was getting ready to paint the set (which they never
> did). There were 2 sets of white steps that led up to the scaffolding on
> stage left & right but they too were not adorned with peace signs. slogans,
> flowers, or anything; they were just stark white.
> Now the Tribe. I was reading the bios before the show and these actors came
> from all over - Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, etc. Just your
> typical summer stock troupe. But when the show started and the first strains
> of AQUARIUS were being sung I knew we were in trouble. The gal who sang was
> flatting out all over the place; it was actually painful to watch. Berger
> and Claude at least were ok and Sheila had a powerhouse voice but she was
> dressed in this I Dream Of Genie type of outfit. She looked like she
> strolled in from the local harem. Jeannie also had a wonderful voice but she
> was one of the gals dressed in Rennaisance garb. The only song cut was
> SODOMY and every reference to anything potentially "dangerous" (as seen by
> the director I guess) was cut. Emanci mother friggin pator of the slaves. I
> wish it would bloody snow, yeah I wish the frig it would, etc.When Margaret
> Meade wanders off with Hubert she says, "Screw you kids." And Woof doesn't
> hump the poster of Mick Jagger. Claude never dropped his British accent (I
> suppose this is at least forgiveable) but it bugged me. WHAT A PIECE OF WORK
> IS MAN was a travesty! I have no clue why they chose these 2 people to sing
> it. There were many better vocal choices; it was absolutely terrible. The
> camaraderie was totally missing; even when they sat in groups there were
> spaces between them. No touching, hugging, etc. There was a neat moment
> during the Be-In where thet were carrying people around over their heads and
> it was really wonderful; it elevated that sequence above all the others. The
> passion just seemed to be missing. Most of this I off on the director; I
> just don't think these kids "got it". I always tear up during 3-5-0-0 (right
> Joe?) but I wasn't feeling it in this production. The song tempos seemed to
> be ass backwards. Tunes that were normally fast were slowed down and vice
> versa. I did start to tear up during FLESH FAILURES and I was happy about
> that but then Claude came out in a WWII uniform. Agh!!!
> The last freaky thing was that HIPPIE LIFE was listed as curtain call music
> but they did play LET THE SUNSHINE. At the end, as we exited the theatre,
> the Tribe was standing in a line receiving well wishes from patrons and all
> done out of character!
> On the ride home the 5 of us talked about it and I wasn't the Lone Ranger in
> my opinions. I was glad to see HAIR but this production left me bitterly
> disappointed.
> Sorry to send such sad tidings. But I always look forward to the next one.
> 
> PEACE,
> Leo 
> 
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Mon Jul  4 19:33:30 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Mon Jul  4 19:34:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater
Message-ID: <380-2200572523330167@M2W065.mail2web.com>

yes, lose some..
 sounds gruesome!!!
;-0
 I cringed reading it, but thanks Leo, 
it makes us appreciate the good productions so much more!

Dagmar

Original Message:
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From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:21:29 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater


Thanks, Leo
Well, win some, lose some.
XO Michael

> A group of 5 of us went last night to see the production of HAIR being
> offered at Lake Region Theater in Meredith, NH. It is with great sadness
> that I write these observations.<snip>

I can't bear reading it again.


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From fotoblue at flash.net  Mon Jul  4 19:38:54 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Mon Jul  4 19:39:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] OH NO!
Message-ID: <380-2200572523854625@M2W097.mail2web.com>

aarrgghhh

I just wiped out 200 messages in my mailbox. 
no idea how I did it. I have all of FOUR in there now, the latest ones. 
(I did save the replies to my HUD posting - glad you liked the photos!)

 I know I can read all the postings to the list in the archives, 
BUT, if anybody wrote directly to me and I have not yet replied, 
would you please send your message again?

Michael: I didn't get around to scanning (4th of July!!) the promised
pictures of you 
with Dr. William Sloane Coffin  but shall do so this week. 

Love
Dagmar


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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Jul  5 04:14:01 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Jul  5 04:14:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater
References: <380-2200572523330167@M2W065.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <002401c58152$a6252240$6e436c42@hotprojects>

you have to give them credit for trying
most people talk and never put up nothing
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fotoblue@flash.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater


> yes, lose some..
>  sounds gruesome!!!
> ;-0
>  I cringed reading it, but thanks Leo,
> it makes us appreciate the good productions so much more!
>
> Dagmar
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
> Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:21:29 -0700
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] HAIR at Lake Region Theater
>
>
> Thanks, Leo
> Well, win some, lose some.
> XO Michael
>
> > A group of 5 of us went last night to see the production of HAIR being
> > offered at Lake Region Theater in Meredith, NH. It is with great sadness
> > that I write these observations.<snip>
>
> I can't bear reading it again.
>
>
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From lyve at netzero.com  Mon Jul  4 21:32:44 2005
From: lyve at netzero.com (Lyle K'ang)
Date: Tue Jul  5 06:08:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: Re: [Mb-civic] How and Why I Got Into Hair
Message-ID: <20050704.213251.22795.328796@webmail33.nyc.untd.com>


---------- Forwarded Message ----------

I am forever grateful for your choices, being guided by those in command, and using your loving intuition. Without you and your choices, there would not have been the millons of out-of-body experiences and for some almost touching the face of God.

The war, like all wars, are our collective weakness and infallibilty, yet we in a weakened state will continue to pursue goals today which instill hate-global pollution of the mind and air we breath.

The breath of life will always be with us-those that stood tall; some in the audience, some at outdoor concerts and others on stage.

Forever-my friend-glad politics threw your ass out-
We gained a remarkable leader and student of this great Universe under the sun. 

Let the Sunshine In!!!!


Lyle Kekahi K'ang, MBA/IM 
http://silomanagement.blogspot.com/
http://lyve-oasis.com

-- Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:
Well, we have had some articles sharing the situation with hair. Those who
lived through the period will recollect how strong the feelings were against
those who wore their hair long. For sure the reason for the name HAIR.
I'd like to add to those stories.
You can start with the last paragraph.
Peace and Love
Michael 

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Tue Jul  5 09:01:30 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 09:21:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Here comes the Javelina!
Message-ID: <BB19B3ED167040048F2D9BF61B240BFD@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Yes, HAIRY, Dagmar.  No doubt about it.  But, just plain cool, too.  Thank you for posting these pics of the Javelina.

--tioga joe

==========================

Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:44:40 -0400
From: "fotoblue@flash.net" <fotoblue@flash.net>

Hi Robin

Thanks for your message, 
(and Richard, thanks for yours too - I'd love to shoot HAIR again, one of
these days...)

 here is the 'requested' photo, actually  I'm sending TWO -
bending the rules  a bit...

BUT IT IS HAIRY!!!!

;-))

 Hugs
 Dagmar

http://www.islandlists.com/pipermail/mb-hair/attachments/20050626/59f10dbf/morning_slurpie.jpg

http://www.islandlists.com/pipermail/mb-hair/attachments/20050626/59f10dbf/javelina-dip.jpg

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Tue Jul  5 09:43:22 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 10:03:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR: Theater of the Ridiculous (plus Flag Burning)
Message-ID: <9DEB563AAD6544EDB76464903F2E766E@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Katie,

That is so cool (for you!) about the positive inroads you and your crew seem to be now making with the black community in your area.  Sounds like HAIR magic is indeed happening there for you.  Keep the faith, Baby!

Regarding the burning of flags for their retirement when old and worn out, faded, tattered:  According to the United States Flag Code (Title 36, Chapter 10, United States Code, as amended by P.L. 344, 94th Congress, approved July 7, 1976), "when a Flag has served its useful purpose, it should be destroyed, preferably by burning." The American Legion "Flag Ettiquette" pamphlet further says, "For individual citizens this should be done discreetly so that the act of destruction is not perceived as a protest or desecration.  Many American Legion Posts [and local Boy Scouts usually assist] conduct Disposal of Unserviceable Flag Ceremonies on June 14, Flag Day, each year.  This ceremony creates a particularly dignified and solemn occasion for the retirement of unserviceable Flags."  FYI, etc., etc., etc.

But, for an example of just how whacky folks can get about what they want to consider as "flag desecration," I just read in a Central Jersey newspaper an account of folks being up in arms because someone recently painted peace signs over the image (the mere image, mind you) of an American flag painted on a big rock on the side of the road.  Apparently the rock had been traditionally painted on a seasonal basis (by some anonymous person) with designs appropriate for each season.  Well, the guy stopped painting one day, so this other guy decides to paint a flag on it -- and now, it's like, sacrosanct, it's a holy icon --and how dare some young upstart think that peace has anything to do with the U S of A, for chrissake!!!!  That's a good example of how ludicrous law enforcement of some flag desecration law could well become.  A mom could get arrested for throwing away that flag picture little Tommy colored in the second grade and has been magneted to the fridge for the past 3 years and it's now looking pretty sad, eh?

Tioga Jioga Joe

================

Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:58:36 +0000
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>

Exactly! Like the proposed ban on Flag burning...I love the fact that for a 
flag past it's prime,
the official protocol says To BURN IT.   - i just got a fortune cookie that 
says, "the heart is wiser than the intellect"- must be so.

BUT- what I really want to tell you all is- THE COOLEST THING HAPPENED 
TONIGHT!!!

We were in rehearsal and one of the cast members came in late...and brought 
with him a black man-and everyone burst into spontaneous applause!  really 
genuine too.  i don't think he quite knew what to do with that.  it was 
awesome.  He is too old (and big) to play Hud, but he's a theatre guy and 
has a fantastic vibe.

AND- a friend of my mom's gave me the number of Daddy Watts, a VERY 
connected black gentleman in town.  He was so nice~ he invited me to brunch 
at his house on Saturday, and he said there would be many people there I 
would be interested in talking to!!!

and  i have a meeting with a local youth center, plus talked to our local 
NAACP chapter, and was told to submit a request in writing.

Wouldn't it be sooo cool if we could all get outside of ourselves and bust 
open some communication lines?

I guess I'm a little excited.
everyone is beautiful.

Love,
Katie

ALOHA NUI LOA!
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Date: Tue Jul  5 10:10:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] 
	NYTimes.com: Straight, Gay or Lying? Bisexuality Revisited
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HEALTH | July 5, 2005
Straight, Gay or Lying? Bisexuality Revisited
By BENEDICT CAREY
A new study casts doubt on whether true bisexuality exists, at least in men.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/05/health/05sex.html?ex=1121227200&en=158516fde9c8da8a&ei=5070&emc=eta1



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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Tue Jul  5 10:11:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Heterosexual Revolution
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OPINION | July 5, 2005
Op-Ed Contributor: The Heterosexual Revolution
By STEPHANIE COONTZ
Traditional marriage, with its long history, was upended by heterosexuals. Gays and lesbians simply noticed that with its new norms, marriage could work for them, too.
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From nycrjmac at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  5 10:55:44 2005
From: nycrjmac at yahoo.com (RJ Mac)
Date: Tue Jul  5 10:56:42 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair]  NYTimes.com: Straight,
	Gay or Lying? Bisexuality Revisited
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Message-ID: <20050705175544.16349.qmail@web84006.mail.dcn.yahoo.com>

The article is interesting but if they're drawing
conclusions based on porn films, thatsounds like
shakey research to me.

The emotional draw back and forth between another
living person counts heavily in attraction, it's more
than hunting for preferred body parts.

rj

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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael)
Date: Tue Jul  5 11:48:15 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Protect Confidential Sources
Message-ID: <200507051847.j65IlnOf026688@xserve.freepress.net>

The Supreme Court failed to reverse a federal court decision that could imprison two reporters who refused to reveal their sources to a federal prosecutor. 

This deals a serious blow to the rights of journalists and to the First Amendment. It has cast a chill over investigative reporters who promise confidentiality to sources in exchange for sensitive information on government wrongdoing.
 
Please join me in signing a petition to support a federal shield law protecting journalists and their confidential sources:

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Thanks!
From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Tue Jul  5 13:43:53 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:04:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...
Message-ID: <47D552D133CD452BB24D375770E98777@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Yo, Bro' Leo!

Glad you're around to practice counting coups with (we "Cybernetic Indians").

You do know, BTW, that that's how White Man in America sneakily killed off so many Red Men -- by giving them as gifts new wool blankets, cleverly infected with ... yes, you guessed it -- Spam!

Smoke 'em if you've got 'em,

Tee Jay

=============

Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 21:27:04 -0400
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>

T. Joe,
Yeah, yeah I hear you. First I don't deliver the goods in Bridgeport and now 
THIS. What's an aging hippie freak, HAIR head supposed to do? Thanks for the 
laugh my brother. I'll getcha back at La Mama. Meanwhile I'm just gonna zap 
you with some spam mojo!! :-)

PEACE,
Leo

From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

...............................for my getting all bitchy and all.  It's all 
Leo's fault.  : )....................................................

 That crabby ol' Injun,
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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  5 14:04:04 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:05:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] In response to- Just my two cents...Nina
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F156A888FFD5556AF16D9BEB2E20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050705210404.58443.qmail@web50308.mail.yahoo.com>

  Hey I agree and I disagree.Hair was like nothing ever so I had nothing to compare it
to.But-I was living a life quite like the one in the show.Hair demanded-of me at least-to
be altered by one means or another.I'd hate to be the one to burst anyone's bubble but it
was the only way to be.Like the hippies we played it was the desired state.There is
nothing like lying in a pool of light at the start of Walking In Space..watching the
colors change etc.....I hope someone remembers as I do.So while I agree with the actor in
a role concept,Hair was it's own concept.I had already had many years of training and
many "shows" under my belt and Hair was the closest to an ideal show as ever there has
been.I could be me and play at being many other things:General Grant,A Tourist
Lady,member of a tribe,a Pill Lady even a Young Recruit.It was always bliss to play
inside this play.
  There are shows with a cast and a text but Hair was an evening of fun with friends who
spoke to each other and those halcion times.In the European tours we never cut but we
knew what did or did not work and the questionable parts always worked.Maybe I didn't
address any questions so thanks for listening.XOX M

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>

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Tue Jul  5 14:21:54 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:42:24 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The final word : Useful stuff maybe ... or simply
Message-ID: <8D5007764D1F4D48B17DE13604F4CFB9@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Well, thanks, Dagmar.  And thanks for declaring this "the final word"!  The mileage we were getting out of this subject line was indeed getting a bit tiresome -- almost making me feel evil enough to repost the helpful-tips-on-using-Bounce thing in its entirety -- you know, for those who might have missed the joy of it the first go 'round.

But, yeah, the "final" word, in its coming, is a relief.  And I think I'm not crabby at the moment!

And this native (small "N") American takes his spelling serious too (all typos aside).  When I said "speak my peace," my spelling was intentional -- P-E-A-C-E.  But don't worry, I sometimes get confused by my long missives, too.  "Doctor Verbose" I have been called.

Yes, I saw the Javelina pics.  Thanks.  And this new one with the cat cubs in the birdbath is too cute.  You've some wonderful back yard!

Piece,

: )

Joey T.

================================

Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:29:27 -0400
From: "fotoblue@flash.net" <fotoblue@flash.net>

Hi Joe, 
no longer crabby ole injun?

 thanks for your long missive, 
you just got me a bit confused with piece and peace. 
(us foreigners, we take our spellings seriously!)

You're right, often something is  written in a different 'tone of voice'
than it is read. 
It can get very complicated.
 Anyway, water beneath the bridge. You've long been forgiven. 
All is well, we are still  ALL ONE - tribe! 

Did you see the javelina picture? 
I did send it to the list, only needed an ever so slight little prodding.
;-)
If you missed it, I'll mail it to you 'special delivery'!

Enjoy your 4th of July weekend - everybody who reads this -

stay cool - see pic!  http://www.islandlists.com/pipermail/mb-hair/attachments/20050702/a510bffb/freddy-n-2cubs.jpg

Pace and Love,

 Dagmar

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From: Sibley Smith sjsmith@njvvmf.org
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:12:25 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Useful stuff maybe ... or simply musings...

Yes, Dear Dagmar, I did notice (after I'd already sent mine in) your
friendlier response 
to the posting to the HAIR list that list of tips on using fabric softner
for this and that.  
And, yeah, it did make me a bit self-conscious about my reply. 
Good-natured ribbing 
(as we oughta be able to do, sorta sibling to sibling in this Tribal
family) tends not to 
be perceived as such when written in this format.

And, yeah, sure, I'll lighten up.  But, come on.  There WAS a valid point
to the point I 
made.  Or, on second thought, I guess not, if I'm the only one who believes
it.  The 
majority rules in Tribe.  But every Tribe member ought to be able to speak
his peace.  
And that's all I did.  I spoke my peace.  

And spam disturbs my peace.

But on the HAIR list, I will stomach it as long as I can, recognizing the
valid point that it 
at least makes SOMEBODY happy.

And, Jeepers Creepers, Dagmar, ANY photo of any thing that you that you've
taken 
would be HAIR related because YOU took it, and, well, you ARE HAIR!  So,
you can't 
not send the photo of Javelina in the birdbath, under the premiss it's not
HAIR-related, 
because, if it's related to you, it's HAIR-related.

So, now, it's like you're going to punish me by not posting the shot to the
List, but you'll 
mail it individually to everybody else on the list but me! (am I sounding
paranoid 
enough?  Look, this symbol : ) is supposed to mean I'm kidding, okay?

Alright, alright, alright.  I'm sorry.  I'm sorry.  I wish to apologize to
Gerald, and to 
Michael, and to the rest of the Tribe, and definitely to you, dear Dagmar,
for my getting 
all bitchy and all.  It's all Leo's fault.  : )   No, just me -- had a
bad-HAIR day.

Will you forgive me?

That crabby ol' Injun,
Tioga Joe


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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:47:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: segregated is a state of mind
Message-ID: <8AC9E421DAFA4ABA9CAC42D3FD6C6436@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Thanks for the chills (as I read your reminder of the lyrics to "Almost Cut My Hair").

Being HAIR is a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it.  Thanks for doing it, Leo.

tioga

===================

Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 20:48:57 -0400
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>

Your words speak the truth T. Joe; that's also why I grew my hair and why 
the title HAIR is so right on! HAIR (the musical and much more) represents 
freedom and males growing their hair also represented the same freedom. The 
freedom to break away from the constraints of mom, dad, apple pie, and all 
"the brainwashed people". My long hair meant/means that I rejected the 
A-typical societal values. It meant I wanna do my own thing. It meant screw 
you Tricky Dicky & take a hike Hubert "Humphrey Dumphrey". And, like you, it 
meant that I was siding with the freaks, the misfits, the black brothers & 
sisters, and the drop outs. I know being a hippie is a state of mind, a 
headset, and a free spirit. But it was groovy to grow that hair as a symbol 
of THIS is what I represent mother fucker!!! My country, love it or change 
it baby!! I'll split to Canada to shaft the draft but you won't make me 
leave this country cuz I've got something to say and if I'm a royal pain in 
one's ass while I'm saying it, so be it. HAIR spoke to the people and raised 
the awareness of our cause to countless theatre goers. My hair also spoke 
volumes about where I was coming from.
In the words of someone (whose name has eluded me at the moment), "Laugh 
mister businessman; say my hair's too long. Say my clothes are dirty and my 
principles are wrong. Laugh mister businessman who screams for law & order 
and keep right on laughing cuz I'm balling your daughter!"
"Almost cut my hair; it happened just the other day. It was getting kinda 
long. Guess you could say it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why. 
Guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly and I feel like I owe it to 
someone!" - CSNY
And Katie you keep on keeping on sister; it'll all happen just the way it's 
supposed to as long as you continue to do the legwork.

PEACE,
Leo


From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Subject: [Mb-hair] segregated is a state of mind


  ...................................Here's a take of mine on male's long 
hair as a political symbol:  As Jimi Hendrix sang, "Let my Freak Flag fly," 
and as hippies were also known to themselves as "Freaks," I saw my long hair 
as being (yes, among other things, too) a symbol that I was a friend of the 
African American.  Blacks (as were any minority) were treated as if they 
were freaks by America's established white society.  My long hair meant (to 
me, anyway) that I was voluntarily being a freak to The Establishment.  I 
was throwing my lot in with blacks, hispanics, bearded ladies, giants, 
"little people," yeah, folks usually only relegated to the circus side show, 
much in the way I see that Claude threw his lot in with the Draftee GIs sent 
to 'Nam.  Long-Hairs were ostracized and hated by the Establishment no less 
and maybe more so than were the average 
black.................................

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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Tue Jul  5 14:55:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] How and Why I Got Into Hair
Message-ID: <A5D33CEAD1C24C95A3022E6AFC2494E7@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Thank you, Michael.

--Tioga

====================

Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 12:03:16 -0700
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>

Well, we have had some articles sharing the situation with hair. Those who
lived through the period will recollect how strong the feelings were against
those who wore their hair long. For sure the reason for the name HAIR.
I'd like to add to those stories.
You can start with the last paragraph.
Peace and Love
Michael 

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From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Tue Jul  5 16:41:14 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Tue, 5 Jul 2005
	12:00:08 -0700
Message-ID: <18183-42CB1A58-7528@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>


Or, are in love... 

Or hope to be in love! 

:-) 

Catch on cable, or rent, last year's THE 
NOTEBOOK. 

I caught this the other day, and it just put me away. A few wonderful
moments, that I'm not sure have ever quite been captured this way, on
film. 

(Now, interestingly, I only caught this from halfway-through, on....
Wouldn't it be just beyond silly if the move in its entirey didn't
measure up...?) 

:-) 

But, at the least, amazing instances. 

And why does everyone seem to ignore, that across the breadth of what's
now a near fifty-year career, James Garner is one of the finest actors
on celluloid, America has produced? 

Best, Jim 

From fotoblue at flash.net  Tue Jul  5 17:49:44 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Tue Jul  5 17:50:47 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved
Message-ID: <380-2200573604944140@M2W039.mail2web.com>

I have only seen it recently too and I think it is meant to "sneak up on
you"...
 you first have a feeling,  without actually putting your finger on it --
and then 
-maybe it's me - 
you suddenly realize what is going on... it just grows and grows.
and sweeps you away. 
 It is extremely sad and touching and so well acted....

 Dagmar

Original Message:
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From:  jameshburns@webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:40:08 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved



Or, are in love... 

Or hope to be in love! 

:-) 

Catch on cable, or rent, last year's THE 
NOTEBOOK. 

I caught this the other day, and it just put me away. A few wonderful
moments, that I'm not sure have ever quite been captured this way, on
film. 

(Now, interestingly, I only caught this from halfway-through, on....
Wouldn't it be just beyond silly if the move in its entirey didn't
measure up...?) 

:-) 

But, at the least, amazing instances. 

And why does everyone seem to ignore, that across the breadth of what's
now a near fifty-year career, James Garner is one of the finest actors
on celluloid, America has produced? 

Best, Jim 

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Wed Jul  6 07:07:58 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Wed Jul  6 07:28:31 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: You gotta laugh at fools-at Fayetteville, NC
Message-ID: <17D00DA29C684B17B4E988F38F377267@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Hey Mary,

Tit for Tat, and FYI, in the attached photo you can see Veterans For Peace (VFP) National President, Dave Cline (Jersey City, New Jersey).  He's wearing the fatigue shirt with, pinned to its left breast, a Combat Infantry Badge (CIB), and ribbons for the following medals (visible in the photo): Bronze Star (with what looks to be the "V" device for valor), Purple Heart (so he was Wounded in Action), National Defense, and Vietnam Service [and, no doubt hidden behind the bullhorn-holding hand in front of Dave, the Vietnam Campaign, issued to U.S. troops by the government of South Vietnam].  And on his cap you see the insignia of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), the insignia of MACV (pronounced "mack-vee" and meaning "Military Assistance Command--Vietnam"), but with the upturned sword in the middle replaced by a downward pointing rifle topped with a helmet, the symbol of the fallen soldier.  And you see him laughing at the Bush supporter behind the bullhorn.  A good pic of Dave.  One cool cat.  I'm honored to be in his association.  But you can see how gaunt he's getting.  Agent Orange is trying its best to take him down, but he's still going strong, and I hope for a long time to come.

Sib
--
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Vietnam Era Educational Center at the 
New Jersey Vietnam Veterans' Memorial
1 Memorial Lane, P.O. Box 648
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Date: Wed Jul  6 11:27:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: From Filmmaker in Los Angeles to Iraq
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Date: Wed Jul  6 11:32:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: A Pat on the Back
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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Wed Jul  6 14:08:41 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: You gotta laugh at fools-at Fayetteville, NC
Message-ID: <ABE7244AE0324371B9AD2A6C282B5854@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Sorry.  Doesn't look like the photo came through.  Gotta check my settings.  I think my system's not leting me send out such pics.  If I can't figure out how to rectify this, I guess you'll just have to take my word for it.  In the meantime, if you're interested in the story of war veterans protesting war, check out this article L.A. HAIR Head Mary Romanek sent me.  VFP President, Dave Cline (the subject of the phantom photo), is interviewed regarding a declaration to impeach, well, who else?

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/070405B.shtml
 <<t r u t h o u t - Veterans Group Issues Declaration of
Impeachment.url>> 

==============
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:07:58 -0400
From: "Sibley Smith" <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>

[ ... ] FYI, in the attached photo you can see Veterans For Peace (VFP) National President, Dave Cline (Jersey City, New Jersey).  He's wearing the fatigue shirt with, pinned to its left breast, a Combat Infantry Badge (CIB), and ribbons for the following medals (visible in the photo): Bronze Star (with what looks to be the "V" device for valor), Purple Heart (so he was Wounded in Action), National Defense, and Vietnam Service [and, no doubt hidden behind the bullhorn-holding hand in front of Dave, the Vietnam Campaign, issued to U.S. troops by the government of South Vietnam].  And on his cap you see the insignia of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), the insignia of MACV (pronounced "mack-vee" and meaning "Military Assistance Command--Vietnam"), but with the upturned sword in the middle replaced by a downward pointing rifle topped with a helmet, the symbol of the fallen soldier.  And you see him laughing at the Bush supporter behind the bullhorn.  A good !
 pic of Dave.  One cool cat.  I'm honored to be in his association.  But you can see how gaunt he's getting.  Agent Orange is trying its best to take him down, but he's still going strong, and I hope for a long time to come.

Sib
--
Sibley J. Smith, Jr., Director of Education
Vietnam Era Educational Center at the 
New Jersey Vietnam Veterans' Memorial
1 Memorial Lane, P.O. Box 648
Holmdel, New Jersey 07733
1-800-648-VETS
www.njvvmf.org 

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Wed Jul  6 14:16:38 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Wed Jul  6 14:17:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV13C378294F71462AB54281ABD90@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the tip Jim..... I have been bypassing this movie on "In Demand" as a free movie and wondering how it would be.... now I know and will watch it later on this evening since "On Demand" allows you to watch at your leisure..

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Burns
Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:40:08 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved


Or, are in love... 

Or hope to be in love! 

:-) 

Catch on cable, or rent, last year's THE 
NOTEBOOK. 

I caught this the other day, and it just put me away. A few wonderful
moments, that I'm not sure have ever quite been captured this way, on
film. 

(Now, interestingly, I only caught this from halfway-through, on....
Wouldn't it be just beyond silly if the move in its entirey didn't
measure up...?) 

:-) 

But, at the least, amazing instances. 

And why does everyone seem to ignore, that across the breadth of what's
now a near fifty-year career, James Garner is one of the finest actors
on celluloid, America has produced? 

Best, Jim 

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Wed Jul  6 16:54:24 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Wed Jul  6 16:55:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV110F084A7F59CA3458FEADABD90@phx.gbl>

Hey Jim.... guess what?..... I had already seen the film on "In Demand" and just did not remember the name... It was/is a great film with two great actors Jim Garner and Gena Rowlands with her son directing Nick Cassavetes... If you see any other films he has directed he has a special touch and sensitive as well.

Nick directs as his father did, do you remember his Father John Cassavetes? He was an actor and director, and they both have that unusual deep sensitive touch, and Gena only takes a certain type of role, so the whole family is special...

Anyway... thanks. 

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Siomos
Sent: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:16:38 -0700
To: Jim Burns, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved

Thanks for the tip Jim..... I have been bypassing this movie on "In Demand" as a free movie and wondering how it would be.... now I know and will watch it later on this evening since "On Demand" allows you to watch at your leisure..

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Burns
Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 16:40:08 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] OT: For Those Of You Who Have Loved


Or, are in love... 

Or hope to be in love! 

:-) 

Catch on cable, or rent, last year's THE 
NOTEBOOK. 

I caught this the other day, and it just put me away. A few wonderful
moments, that I'm not sure have ever quite been captured this way, on
film. 

(Now, interestingly, I only caught this from halfway-through, on....
Wouldn't it be just beyond silly if the move in its entirey didn't
measure up...?) 

:-) 

But, at the least, amazing instances. 

And why does everyone seem to ignore, that across the breadth of what's
now a near fifty-year career, James Garner is one of the finest actors
on celluloid, America has produced? 

Best, Jim 

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Jul  7 08:19:41 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul  7 08:21:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hope lies in Tinseltown =?iso-8859-1?q?=B9?= s DVD woes
Message-ID: <BEF2961D.21A0D%michael@michaelbutler.com>


 
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Here is the good news for Hollywood. The golden age of the DVD is coming to
an end.

That does not sound like a positive: DVD sales easily outstrip box office
receipts as the main source of revenue for film studios. But it is a
blessing in disguise. It may spur the studios into a serious effort to make
money out of internet film downloading rather than doing their best either
to ignore the phenomenon or to curb it.

This would not come a moment too soon. The danger for Hollywood is that it
will repeat the music industry?s mistake by procrastinating so long that
internet distribution becomes dominated by piracy. While DVD revenues keep
growing, studios lack an incentive to take the tough decisions needed to
stimulate a legitimate alternative.

Luckily, the first signs of a DVD malaise have just emerged. Both Dreamworks
Animation and Pixar have suffered shortfalls in DVD sales on the children?s
films Shrek 2 and The Incredibles. They both sold strongly initially ? 22m
copies of Shrek 2 were bought in the last quarter of 2004 ? but sales fell
quicker than expected after that.

There were already signs of the golden goose laying fewer eggs. The rush to
transfer as many films and programmes to DVD as possible led to the growth
in the number of titles outstripping sales growth last year. Retailers such
as Wal-Mart and Best Buy were deluged with 40,000 titles and responded by
cutting the time each one spent on shelves.

For studios that rely on DVD revenue growth continuing, that is alarming.
After all, only 60 per cent of US households had DVD players last year
compared with the 90 per cent with video cassette recorders. Tom Rothman,
co-chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment, predicted 18 months ago that US
sales of DVDs would carry on growing until 2007.

This is starting to seem like wishful thinking, although Mr Rothman had good
reason to hope. DVDs have been an incredible windfall for the studios.
Edward Jay Epstein estimates in his book, The Big Picture, that the six
biggest studios gained DVD and video revenues of $19bn against box office
income of $7.5bn in 2003.

Nor is the box office looking that healthy. Despite Tom Cruise?s efforts to
bring in the crowds over the July 4 weekend with a bizarre publicity tour
for War of the Worlds (if you have not been paying attention you probably do
not want to know), US box office takings were down on last year for the 19th
weekend in a row.

If the box office blues prove to be a blip and DVD revenues are merely
shared out more widely, Hollywood will return to complacency. But I suspect
there is more going on than that. One reason I say so is a recent experience
of watching a film that had been downloaded illegally with peer-to-peer
software by an otherwise law-abiding teenager whom I know.

It was not a wholly satisfactory event. The film, burned on to a DVD so I
could watch it on television, came out in black and white and had periodic
warnings against piracy (it was clearly taken from a promotional DVD). I
ended up going to a store to rent a better version in colour, a fair
reflection of the culture gap between the young and middle-aged.

My pirate was not alone: a Forrester survey found that 20 per cent of 16- to
24-year-olds in the UK had done the same thing in the previous three months.
Last week?s ruling by the Supreme Court against Grokster will curb blatant
attempts to profit from piracy, but under-25s will keep sharing films and
music online.

Studios have made only half-hearted efforts to provide a legal alternative.
They have been afraid of making their newest and best films available online
in case it unleashes piracy or affects other sales. Legal services such as
Movielink and CinemaNow have been given only a limited selection of films,
while most hits have been kept for the lucrative DVD market.

It was ever thus. Hollywood?s usual reaction when faced by a new form of
distribution is to take out a gun and aim at its foot. As Mr Epstein
records, studios tried to stifle television in the 1950s and only narrowly
failed to stop Sony?s Betamax video recorder, the precursor to the DVD
player. They went on to make huge amounts of money from both devices.

The danger in ignoring this shift in technology is greater. If the studios
do not seize control of film downloading, they will have little chance of
curbing piracy. At the moment, because it takes so long to download films
and is cumbersome ? and illegal ? to transfer the files to DVD, the
middle-aged are unlikely to switch rapidly from visiting the cinema and
buying DVDs. But young people are less fussy and arguably less scrupulous.

Studio executives often talk airily of being neutral about the means of
distribution and how films could in future be offered initially over cable
and satellite networks and online to pay-per-view customers. In practice,
however, they are loath to relax the favourable treatment given to DVD sales
in their carefully-constructed schedule of release ?windows?.

That is why the wobble in DVD sales helps: it provides an incentive to make
sacrifices to nurture a future revenue stream. If studios give online
downloading equal treatment with DVDs and offer them cheaply enough to lure
teenagers away from piracy, they have a chance. If they carry on
equivocating, they will regret it.

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Jul  7 12:08:47 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul  7 12:09:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Thought of the Day:
In-Reply-To: <003301c58322$6fde6620$f422ab44@johnjmytnhvs9f>
Message-ID: <BEF2CBCF.21A43%michael@michaelbutler.com>


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From: "John Herzog" <herzogje@adelphia.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:33:50 -0700
To: "john herzog" <herzogje@dcn2.net>
Subject: Fw: Thought of the Day:



Thought of the Day:

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits
drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the
limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so
when it violates the rights of the individual."

Thomas Jefferson 











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From paul at paulkorda.com  Thu Jul  7 15:07:22 2005
From: paul at paulkorda.com (Paul Korda)
Date: Thu Jul  7 15:10:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings
Message-ID: <000501c58340$43132180$bb70e904@pkorda>

Of all the cowardly acts these so called Muslim extremists claim to be
so great for "creating", worshippers of death and destruction, they are
nothing more than cowards, hiding behind modern technology (that they
hate) to explode bombs on the lives of innocent people, including fellow
Muslims. Let's face it, these people are nothing more than psychotic
killers. If their beliefs are so important, why don't they try putting
some positive ideas for what they need, in writing, on their websites,
so that the World can try to help them get a shrink.
Paul Korda
HYPERLINK "http://paulkorda.com/"http://PaulKorda.com   HYPERLINK
"http://www.paulkorda.com/"
 
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Jul  7 17:24:54 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul  7 17:26:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings
In-Reply-To: <000501c58340$43132180$bb70e904@pkorda>
Message-ID: <BEF315E6.21A6B%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Paul, 
Right on.
Glad you are well.
Michael

> Of all the cowardly acts these so called Muslim extremists claim to be
> so great for "creating", worshippers of death and destruction, they are
> nothing more than cowards, hiding behind modern technology (that they
> hate) to explode bombs on the lives of innocent people, including fellow
> Muslims. Let's face it, these people are nothing more than psychotic
> killers. If their beliefs are so important, why don't they try putting
> some positive ideas for what they need, in writing, on their websites,
> so that the World can try to help them get a shrink.
> Paul Korda
> HYPERLINK "http://paulkorda.com/"http://PaulKorda.com   HYPERLINK
> "http://www.paulkorda.com/"
> 
> Reply to this message to
> HYPERLINK "mailto:paul@paulkorda.com"paul@paulkorda.com
> 
> 

From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  7 23:08:32 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Thu Jul  7 23:09:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] yay Jefferson; and reply from Charles
In-Reply-To: <BEF2CBCF.21A43%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F28DD4A519569F24C1D45C8ADDB0@phx.gbl>

I love that quote by Thomas Jefferson!

in 2000 I went from NYC with busloads of other sentient people to protest 
the inauguration.
The younger kids just wanted to wave posters at cops and say "fuck"...so i 
headed out in the freezing rain to the Lincoln Memorial.  Standing there, 
(and in the Jefferson memorial later) I was struck by the dichotemy of the 
words etched in stone before me versus the fanfare I could hear in the 
distance.  Perhaps if the appointed president would have stood in either 
place for just a moment~ completely alone~ he could have heard what the 
walls whisper and been inspired to be a leader, instead of a hubristic 
destroyer.

And on a lighter note, Charles asked me to post this reply, as his computer 
is not totally up yet :
(ps- do the "light jackets" have to do with black light??)

Hi Katie,

So good to here from someone that is going to do HAiR close by, if there is 
any way I can make it I will be there, but right now that is to far out for 
me to put on the calendar right now. If I can help you in anyway I will be 
glad to do my best to be there for you. You are the first person I have 
responded to today, I now have my internet service setup connected at my new 
location in the mountains of Georgia, this is only temporary though, maybe 
through the summer into fall, don't really know right now. Lot of things 
going on.
Maybe this production you are doing could use some Light Jackets like in the 
original show, ask the producer and the director about it.
Send this through the HAiR net so all can read this I am not connected on 
this computer as yet..
Please keep in tough :-) :-) :-)

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~

PS Gotta get my smilies back on this computer, not the same.

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  8 09:14:57 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  8 09:16:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV144507F24DEE4CAF0FB088ABDB0@phx.gbl>

Hopefully all is well with YOU Paul... are you still in London?  What you say in your e-mail is true true true....what a sad day over there.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Korda
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:07:22 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings

Of all the cowardly acts these so called Muslim extremists claim to be
so great for "creating", worshippers of death and destruction, they are
nothing more than cowards, hiding behind modern technology (that they
hate) to explode bombs on the lives of innocent people, including fellow
Muslims. Let's face it, these people are nothing more than psychotic
killers. If their beliefs are so important, why don't they try putting
some positive ideas for what they need, in writing, on their websites,
so that the World can try to help them get a shrink.
Paul Korda
HYPERLINK "http://paulkorda.com/"http://PaulKorda.com   HYPERLINK
"http://www.paulkorda.com/"
 
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  8 09:18:18 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  8 09:19:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] yay Jefferson; and reply from Charles
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1998FE7CAEDDABFE5276CAABDB0@phx.gbl>

Dear Katie.... I honor you... what a great young person you are, especially to take the initiative to leave your group and go off by yourself... well done....

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:08:32 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] yay Jefferson; and reply from Charles

I love that quote by Thomas Jefferson!

in 2000 I went from NYC with busloads of other sentient people to protest 
the inauguration.
The younger kids just wanted to wave posters at cops and say "fuck"...so i 
headed out in the freezing rain to the Lincoln Memorial.  Standing there, 
(and in the Jefferson memorial later) I was struck by the dichotemy of the 
words etched in stone before me versus the fanfare I could hear in the 
distance.  Perhaps if the appointed president would have stood in either 
place for just a moment~ completely alone~ he could have heard what the 
walls whisper and been inspired to be a leader, instead of a hubristic 
destroyer.

And on a lighter note, Charles asked me to post this reply, as his computer 
is not totally up yet :
(ps- do the "light jackets" have to do with black light??)

Hi Katie,

So good to here from someone that is going to do HAiR close by, if there is 
any way I can make it I will be there, but right now that is to far out for 
me to put on the calendar right now. If I can help you in anyway I will be 
glad to do my best to be there for you. You are the first person I have 
responded to today, I now have my internet service setup connected at my new 
location in the mountains of Georgia, this is only temporary though, maybe 
through the summer into fall, don't really know right now. Lot of things 
going on.
Maybe this production you are doing could use some Light Jackets like in the 
original show, ask the producer and the director about it.
Send this through the HAiR net so all can read this I am not connected on 
this computer as yet..
Please keep in tough :-) :-) :-)

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~

PS Gotta get my smilies back on this computer, not the same.

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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul  8 09:34:10 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Jul  8 09:36:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] i am shitting bricks here in nyc having to use the subway
Message-ID: <002001c583da$deecb090$6e436c42@hotprojects>

4 times a week
twice during the evening rush hour
sucks titty
pray for me
i love you guys
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul  8 09:39:30 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul  8 09:40:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] i am shitting bricks here in nyc having to use the
	subway
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV504BBCAAC3C4748CED8D3ABDB0@phx.gbl>

RH.... stay cool we are with you... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: richard haase
Sent: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 09:34:10 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com, mb-civic@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] i am shitting bricks here in nyc having to use the subway

4 times a week
twice during the evening rush hour
sucks titty
pray for me
i love you guys


From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 11:33:16 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Fri Jul  8 11:34:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE:Changing the subject.
In-Reply-To: <BEF315E6.21A6B%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050708183316.81073.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com>

Paul are you any relation to the film-making Kordas??Michael A 

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Jul  8 17:52:01 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Jul  8 18:21:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Message From London
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From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  8 21:38:57 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Fri Jul  8 21:40:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings
In-Reply-To: <000501c58340$43132180$bb70e904@pkorda>
Message-ID: <20050709043857.94015.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com>

Nicely said Paul. My thoughts and prayers go out to all in London. I do wonder what is to become of all this continuing madness. 
 
Peace and Blessings ~ Jonathon

Paul Korda <paul@paulkorda.com> wrote:
Of all the cowardly acts these so called Muslim extremists claim to be so great for "creating", worshippers of death and destruction, they are nothing more than cowards, hiding behind modern technology (that they hate) to explode bombs on the lives of innocent people, including fellow Muslims. Let's face it, these people are nothing more than psychotic killers. If their beliefs are so important, why don't they try putting some positive ideas for what they need, in writing, on their websites, so that the World can try to help them get a shrink.
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From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul  9 10:26:02 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: London Bombings
In-Reply-To: <20050709043857.94015.qmail@web53407.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BEF55673.21B65%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Good points, Paul
Peace and Love,
Michael

> Nicely said Paul. My thoughts and prayers go out to all in London. I do wonder
> what is to become of all this continuing madness.
> 
> Peace and Blessings ~ Jonathon
> 
> Paul Korda <paul@paulkorda.com> wrote:
> Of all the cowardly acts these so called Muslim extremists claim to be so
> great for "creating", worshippers of death and destruction, they are nothing
> more than cowards, hiding behind modern technology (that they hate) to explode
> bombs on the lives of innocent people, including fellow Muslims. Let's face
> it, these people are nothing more than psychotic killers. If their beliefs are
> so important, why don't they try putting some positive ideas for what they
> need, in writing, on their websites, so that the World can try to help them
> get a shrink.
> Paul Korda
> http://PaulKorda.com
> 
> Reply to this message to
> paul@paulkorda.com
> 
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sat Jul  9 11:47:13 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Jul  9 11:48:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Newspaper Withholding Two Articles After
	Jailing
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NATIONAL | July 9, 2005
Newspaper Withholding Two Articles After Jailing
By ROBERT D. McFADDEN
The Plain Dealer is withholding two major investigative articles because illegally leaked documents could lead to penalties against the paper and the jailing of reporters.
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Jul  9 11:56:02 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Terrorist's Rationale
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OPINION | July 9, 2005
Editorial: The Terrorist's Rationale

The purpose of terrifying us is to turn us loose among our own emotions, to undermine our ability to reason with ourselves and with each other.
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Jul  9 12:03:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: When Fear Stalks, Tune Out
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OPINION | July 9, 2005
Op-Ed Columnist: When Fear Stalks, Tune Out
By JOHN TIERNEY
Instead of talking about the need for Britons to move on, British Prime Minister Tony Blair moved on.
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul  9 15:57:24 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul  9 15:58:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Found a great quote.... :-)
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV2A876AECBCC6395AC0406ABDA0@phx.gbl>


"The true test of Civilization is not the census, nor the size of the cities, nor the crops, but the kind of man the Country turns out". 

Ralph Waldo Emerson


From michael at intrafi.com  Sun Jul 10 08:45:50 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Jul 10 08:47:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Democrats Seek Greater Voice in Nomination,
	Telling Bush It Would Ease Process
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WASHINGTON / WASHINGTON SPECIAL | July 10, 2005
Democrats Seek Greater Voice in Nomination, Telling Bush It Would Ease Process
By CARL HULSE
Democrats are encouraging the president to quickly seek their views on individual Supreme Court nominees as a way of avoiding a contentious confirmation battle.
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Jul 10 08:51:17 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: It's All Happening at the Tulsa Zoo
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Editorial: It's All Happening at the Tulsa Zoo

Christian creationists won too much of a victory for their own good in Tulsa, where the local zoo was ordered to exhibit a display extolling Genesis's account of creation.
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Jul 10 08:51:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: We're Not in Watergate Anymore
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OPINION | July 10, 2005
Op-Ed Columnist: We're Not in Watergate Anymore
By FRANK RICH
No reporter went to jail during Watergate. No news organization buckled like Time. No one instigated a war on phony premises. This is worse than Watergate.
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Sun Jul 10 13:02:54 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Sun Jul 10 13:04:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Echoes of a Past-time
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Sun, 10 Jul 2005
	12:00:08 -0700
Message-ID: <21602-42D17EEE-7339@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net>


So, I'm watching the Old Timers Game yesterday, out at Yankee Stadium,
when, as many of you know--and as other baseball organizations used to
do--they bring many of the great and veteran players from yesterday back
to be honored by the fans, and play a short exhibition game.

In the 1970s, Oscar Gamble was renowned for a massive, GIGANTIC, Afro...

As Gamble was announced, and he jogged out from the dugout to join his
teammates along the first base line, he doffed his cap, to show, no
doubt, that his noggin was now closely cropped.

But as he gamboled--

Reverberating throughout the most famous stadium in the world--

Played on what used to be the only instrument known in baseball, an
organ--

In front of a sold-out crowd of over 50,000, and who knows how many
enthusiasts, at home--

And with Yogi Berra, and Phil Rizzuto, and Whitey Ford bearing witness--


The umistakeable tones, of "Aquarius."


Jim Burns

From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Jul 10 18:20:39 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Jul 10 18:21:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Wait a minute -- what was this for...?
In-Reply-To: <1a3.3757957d.3002e474@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BEF71777.21C41%michael@michaelbutler.com>


------ Forwarded Message
From: TSawyer456@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:52:04 EDT
To: TSawyer456@aol.com
Subject: Wait a minute -- what was this for...?

 
 
SOMETHING TO PONDER:

There is more money being  spent on breast implants and Viagra than on
Alzheimer's research. Experts  believe this means that by 2030 there will be
a huge 
elderly population  with perky tits and large erections who are unable to
recall what  to do with them.





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From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 10 18:56:33 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Sun Jul 10 18:58:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from Italy
In-Reply-To: <200507101900.j6AJ08NZ013413@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20050711015633.2755.qmail@web41128.mail.yahoo.com>


Hey everyone! I'm back from Italy... I had a wonderful
trip and saw so many amazing things. It's an
unbelievably beautiful country. I will have pictures
up at my yahoo site sometime this week. 

-amy


		
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From cpreston1 at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 10 18:58:16 2005
From: cpreston1 at bellsouth.net (cpreston1@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun Jul 10 18:59:37 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Sign in a new e-mail address
Message-ID: <20050711015816.ZJPY19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>

Michael could I get my new e-mail adress added to this list. I will also keep the old one as well sense I travel back and forth between locations. This new e-mail address is cpreston2@tds.net .   Thanks 

Peace , Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~

From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Jul 10 19:06:05 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Jul 10 19:07:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Sign in a new e-mail address
In-Reply-To: <20050711015816.ZJPY19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BEF7221D.21C46%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Sure, Nina will enter.
which is to be the default address?
Michael

> Michael could I get my new e-mail adress added to this list. I will also keep
> the old one as well sense I travel back and forth between locations. This new
> e-mail address is cpreston2@tds.net .   Thanks
> 
> Peace , Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~
> 
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 04:54:35 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Jul 11 04:55:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Sign in a new e-mail address
In-Reply-To: <20050711015816.ZJPY19115.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F22A75C7D44D01E1EC28DA0B2DC0@phx.gbl>

Hi Chalres,

I have taken care of subscribing you at your new address. Don't forget to 
send back the confirmation email for the new account - without doing that 
you won't be subscribed.

Do you want both addresses to be receiving the posts?

Hope you are well and happy. Thinking of you.
Love,
Nina

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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 05:44:27 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Mon Jul 11 05:45:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction
Message-ID: <20050711124428.7795.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all... Some of you already know me (from the last HAIR list, though when it switched over I somehow got lost. But now I'm found again.) For those who do not, Hello, I'm James.Pappaconstantine but I don't dig James, so you can call me, Jim, Jimmy, Pappa... I was Leo's Berger for the 1997 and 1999 productions. Many of the cast as well as paitrons of those shows still call me Berger when we run into each other. This past weekend we had our annual Hair weekend of Peace. (where we had 3 tribes in a big field, complete with a tent city, BBQ, and bonfire.) But although there was as I say 3 tribes (or productions) we were actually all one. And I believe as I am sure all of you do as well that that trancends the world, and you, are also my tribe.. Anyway.. once was lost, now I'm found. Can't wait to catch up on all that I've missed. Peace Babies, JIM

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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Mon Jul 11 07:13:05 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Mon Jul 11 07:14:41 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
References: <200507081900.j68J09Ki007965@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c58622$a801afa0$6401a8c0@Leo>

In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at 
our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode 
out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the 
Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked 
like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the 
grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and 
had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by 
mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able 
to get our bigass campfire going.  Saturday evening we gathered in our 
campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a 
favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe 
out there.
Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I 
replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows 
what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What 
might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that 
question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to 
Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American 
event! You are a great man.
We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as 
our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/schvenhead/album?.dir=/13cb&.src=ph&.tok=phHvHSDBSPrzOQnn

PEACE,
Leo 


From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 11:31:21 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Jul 11 11:32:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction
In-Reply-To: <20050711124428.7795.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2489B90151F9758ABD8CDDB2DC0@phx.gbl>

Hey Jim, Great to have you back with us. Your presence has been missed. 
Welcome (again)!
Love,
Nina

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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 11 11:39:52 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Jul 11 11:41:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
In-Reply-To: <001d01c58622$a801afa0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F20DD59A1EE358DA740FC46B2DC0@phx.gbl>

Hey Leo,

Thanks for letting us know how it went, and for the photos. Looks like you 
all had a great time. I am always so blown away by the spirit that glows out 
of everyone at Hair get togethers. It's just amazing.

And yes, MB, Leo is right, as he often is. We wouldn't any of us be here 
without you.
Love,
Nina

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 12:34:46 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 11 12:36:15 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from Italy
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV9C4D44D1BBD9AA9818633ABDC0@phx.gbl>

Welcome back Amy...

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Kazan
Sent: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:56:33 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from Italy


Hey everyone! I'm back from Italy... I had a wonderful
trip and saw so many amazing things. It's an
unbelievably beautiful country. I will have pictures
up at my yahoo site sometime this week. 

-amy


		
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 12:38:34 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 11 12:40:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV519B9D35BF5D99C9857A5ABDC0@phx.gbl>

Happy to hear you are found again... and I am so sorry I missed Leos wonderful tribe gathering...

peace
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: James Pappaconstantine
Sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:44:27 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction

Hi all... Some of you already know me (from the last HAIR list, though when it switched over I somehow got lost. But now I'm found again.) For those who do not, Hello, I'm James.Pappaconstantine but I don't dig James, so you can call me, Jim, Jimmy, Pappa... I was Leo's Berger for the 1997 and 1999 productions. Many of the cast as well as paitrons of those shows still call me Berger when we run into each other. This past weekend we had our annual Hair weekend of Peace. (where we had 3 tribes in a big field, complete with a tent city, BBQ, and bonfire.) But although there was as I say 3 tribes (or productions) we were actually all one. And I believe as I am sure all of you do as well that that trancends the world, and you, are also my tribe.. Anyway.. once was lost, now I'm found. Can't wait to catch up on all that I've missed. Peace Babies, JIM

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Jul 11 12:50:58 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Jul 11 12:52:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction
In-Reply-To: <20050711124428.7795.qmail@web54202.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BEF81BB2.21CCA%michael@michaelbutler.com>

So nice you are back.
Peace and Love,
Michael
-- "Ride life like a wave, for life is a wave:  This seems to be
Mine"...Love, JTH



> Hi all... Some of you already know me (from the last HAIR list, though when it
> switched over I somehow got lost. But now I'm found again.) For those who do
> not, Hello, I'm James.Pappaconstantine but I don't dig James, so you can call
> me, Jim, Jimmy, Pappa... I was Leo's Berger for the 1997 and 1999 productions.
> Many of the cast as well as paitrons of those shows still call me Berger when
> we run into each other. This past weekend we had our annual Hair weekend of
> Peace. (where we had 3 tribes in a big field, complete with a tent city, BBQ,
> and bonfire.) But although there was as I say 3 tribes (or productions) we
> were actually all one. And I believe as I am sure all of you do as well that
> that trancends the world, and you, are also my tribe.. Anyway.. once was lost,
> now I'm found. Can't wait to catch up on all that I've missed. Peace Babies,
> JIM
> 
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Mon Jul 11 06:58:12 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Mon Jul 11 13:52:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] well done leo
Message-ID: <42D27AF4.B828ABAB@t-online.de>

good morning tribe and leo it looks like you had a great time we were
all with you we are all one  i think i am back from 9 weeks on the
island of symi off the coast of rhoades  greece  the cradle of
civilisation we should all have a love in there one day i missed you all
. uschi angel had to stand in for you all of you had a wonderful
birthday on the 20th of june on a full moon night the whole island sang
let the sun shine in  where were you  love and peace and its great to be
back on our stage  vincent

From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul 11 14:43:31 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 11 14:45:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] well done leo
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV14D942C3351D4FFBCA4449ABDC0@phx.gbl>

Hey Vincent...... Welcome back, I should have known you were off having a wonderful time somewhere... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Edwards
Sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:58:12 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com, mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] well done leo

good morning tribe and leo it looks like you had a great time we were
all with you we are all one  i think i am back from 9 weeks on the
island of symi off the coast of rhoades  greece  the cradle of
civilisation we should all have a love in there one day i missed you all
 uschi angel had to stand in for you all of you had a wonderful
birthday on the 20th of june on a full moon night the whole island sang
let the sun shine in  where were you  love and peace and its great to be
back on our stage  vincent

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Jul 11 17:37:13 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Jul 11 17:38:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
In-Reply-To: <001d01c58622$a801afa0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <BEF85EC9.21CFC%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Leo,
You are so nice. Thanks.
You ignore the wonderful pleasure I have received being with all of you
these many years. Everytime we are together I am more enriched.
Peace and Love,
Michael
 --Compassion is the state of being in touch with the
bright, beautiful and flawed nature of humanity



> In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at
> our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode
> out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the
> Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked
> like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the
> grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and
> had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by
> mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able
> to get our bigass campfire going.  Saturday evening we gathered in our
> campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a
> favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe
> out there.
> Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I
> replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows
> what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What
> might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that
> question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to
> Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American
> event! You are a great man.
> We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as
> our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
> If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/schvenhead/album?.dir=/13cb&.src=ph&.tok=phHvHSD
> BSPrzOQnn
> 
> PEACE,
> Leo 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 11 22:53:33 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Mon Jul 11 22:54:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Off-topic: Italy Pictures
Message-ID: <20050712055333.24850.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>

My pictures from Italy turned out great! I scanned the
best ones for my yahoo photo site. Check them out:

http://photos.yahoo.com/lilacamy11

under "Italy" (obviously)

-Amy


		
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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Tue Jul 12 16:16:45 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Tue Jul 12 16:18:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Off-topic: Italy Pictures
References: <200507121900.j6CJ098D019292@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <003e01c58737$c58eac60$6401a8c0@Leo>


Amy, thanks so much for sharing these pics with us. They look wonderful and 
you look radiant!! I betcha had a fabulous time.

PEACE,
Leo

From: Amy Kazan <lilacamy11@yahoo.com>
 Subject: [Mb-hair] Off-topic: Italy Pictures

 My pictures from Italy turned out great! I scanned the best ones for my 
yahoo photo site. Check them out:

 http://photos.yahoo.com/lilacamy11

 under "Italy" (obviously)

 -Amy


From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Jul 12 08:05:48 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Jul 12 18:17:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Off-topic: Italy Pictures
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV857CB2A587A18880A26F3ABDF0@phx.gbl>

Amy your pictures are beautiful   what a choice of varying architecture.. makes me truly envious.

Thanks for sharing.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Kazan
Sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:53:33 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Off-topic: Italy Pictures

My pictures from Italy turned out great! I scanned the
best ones for my yahoo photo site. Check them out:

http://photos.yahoo.com/lilacamy11

under "Italy" (obviously)

-Amy


		
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Jul 12 10:02:26 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Jul 12 19:56:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MUST READ: The Wages of Intolerance 
In-Reply-To: <191.430ea8da.30053427@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BEF945B2.21D60%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks to Linda.

------ Forwarded Message
From: Reeeees@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:56:39 EDT
To: michael@michaelbutler.com
Subject: The Wages of Intolerance

The Wages of Intolerance

By Marci Hamilton,  AlterNet
Posted on July 12, 2005, Printed on July 12,  2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/23468/

The immediate reaction to  Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's resignation was so
strident from both sides  that the President has asked everyone to tone it
down. Senate leaders are  also asking groups to be more cordial. The problem
with silence, though, is  that we need to know what agendas are out there,
and one of the cardinal  problems in American politics is that too many
times religious political  pressure happens behind closed doors.

Before the calls for civility,  though, plenty of groups were able to show
their hands in this emotional  debate over who to choose to replace Justice
O'Connor, a moderate Goldwater  Republican. Litmus tests abound, with
conservative evangelical Christians  claiming an entitlement to have a
Supreme Court appointee who reflects their  singular religious values. In
the end, the President simply cannot choose a  Justice based on their
religious criteria.

This country was not  founded on a single religious viewpoint, as the far
right would have it, but  rather on a wide diversity of religious beliefs.
The current far right  believers are reminiscent of the Puritans who settled
what would become  Massachusetts and who established their religion as the
religion of the  colony (and then the state). The Puritans believed in the
right to believe  whatever one wanted, so long as dissenters left their
cities and  communities. They believed in a religious culture controlled by
the  majority. Rhode Island was founded because of the Puritans' rank
intolerance.

Many of the dissenting Christians in Massachusetts were  Baptists, whose
charismatic preachers, including the Revs. Isaac Backus and  John Leland,
preached the separation of church and state. Backus declared  that the
"notion of a Christian commonwealth should be exploded forever"  while
Leland called established religions, "all of them,  anti-Christocracies."

Yet, far right Christians today, many of them  Baptists, have no respect for
disestablishment principles. They are intent  on removing barriers between
government and religion, and, in fact, making  government the servant to
religion. They want their religious messages on  courthouse walls, their
theology in the science classrooms, their prayers in  public schools, and
their values to mandate constitutional policy. They even  argue that
Protestants are a majority and therefore have the right to have  the
government deliver their religious messages. This is their agenda for  the
next Supreme Court Justice.

Not only are they opposed to the  separation of church and state, they are
also opposed to a balanced  government. Right now, they are insistent that
they have a right to dominate  not just the Congress (witness the Terri
Schiavo bill) and the President  (he's harder to dominate, but he
persistently plays to them), but also the  Supreme Court. They say they are
entitled to take the third  branch.

Moreover, their primary criterion for a good Justice is one where  they can
predict how that Justice will vote on every issue that matters to  them. In
other words, they don't think too much of the independent  judiciary,
either. If they could, they would place an automaton in the  Supreme Court
that could be controlled by remote control. I wish that were  an
exaggeration, but their rhetoric is not terribly opaque.

I'm a  conservative, a Republican, and a Christian, and I must say that I
find this  Christian triumphalism scary. Good for the liberals that are
finally  speaking up and saying that their Christianity is just as
legitimate as  arch-conservative Christianity. The voices we need next in
the public square  are the many silent conservative Christians who find it
offensive that any  religious group would attempt to control the federal
government solely by  its religious lights.

The far right has said repeatedly in recent years  that it would like this
country to return to its religious roots and to  judging according to
original intent. One can only hope that this President,  who is not nearly
as doctrinaire as his so-called "base," understands that  the roots of this
current movement are considerably closer to the Puritans  than the Baptists
at the time of the framing.

Marci A. Hamilton is  the author of 'God vs. the Gavel: Religion and the
Rule of Law' (Cambridge  University Press).


? 2005 Independent Media Institute. All rights  reserved.
View this story online at:  http://www.alternet.org/story/23468/


------ End of Forwarded Message


From VinUschi at t-online.de  Wed Jul 13 06:42:41 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Wed Jul 13 13:37:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] symi
Message-ID: <42D51A50.8ED786F3@t-online.de>

hello tribe i wish i could show you pics of  symi but its all in the
mind  i will be there in september and october drop by  you will
understand  besides i havent got a friggen camera  i love you all  ps
check out symi on google   look at the moon  vincent

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Thu Jul 14 07:07:58 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Jul 14 07:09:37 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] symi
References: <42D51A50.8ED786F3@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <006a01c5887d$70854980$6e436c42@hotprojects>

look at the moon

( berger goes up to bald man in audience )

look its my mother!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>; <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] symi


> hello tribe i wish i could show you pics of  symi but its all in the
> mind  i will be there in september and october drop by  you will
> understand  besides i havent got a friggen camera  i love you all  ps
> check out symi on google   look at the moon  vincent
> 
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 14 07:21:03 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Thu Jul 14 07:22:32 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] symi
In-Reply-To: <42D51A50.8ED786F3@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F4149EE9A04EDF337DA72EFB2D10@phx.gbl>

Any chance we could get you to New York for the big reunion this September? 
It would be amazing if you could come.
Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html



>From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
>Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>,        
>"mb-hair@islandlists.com" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: [Mb-hair] symi
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:42:41 +0800
>
>hello tribe i wish i could show you pics of  symi but its all in the
>mind  i will be there in september and october drop by  you will
>understand  besides i havent got a friggen camera  i love you all  ps
>check out symi on google   look at the moon  vincent
>
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From michael at intrafi.com  Thu Jul 14 09:42:33 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Thu Jul 14 09:44:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Editor's Tale
Message-ID: <20050714164233.C64FD11FA4D@lax-gw07.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Thu Jul 14 10:31:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Off-topic: Italy Pictures
Message-ID: <85B09071EE3648338206A9636C9BAE14@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Dear Amy,

I second that e-motion!  Nice seeing you.  Fun Foto albums.  You and Seth are a real couple of cards! (Oh, wait!  That was just your 2003 Halloween costumes! : )

Love, etc.,
Tioga Joe

================

Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:16:45 -0400
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>

Amy, thanks so much for sharing these pics with us. They look wonderful and 
you look radiant!! I betcha had a fabulous time.

PEACE,
Leo

=================

From: Amy Kazan <lilacamy11@yahoo.com>
 
 My pictures from Italy turned out great! I scanned the best ones for my 
yahoo photo site. Check them out:

 http://photos.yahoo.com/lilacamy11

 under "Italy" (obviously)

 -Amy


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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Thu Jul 14 10:50:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
Message-ID: <CCEC043401B9402582521C7E74EE654D@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Leo!

Thanks for sharing shots of your wonderful Be-In.  And he's right, Michael.  Without your hand in HAIR, undoubtedly I (and many others) would not have come to know and love it as I do.

Peace 8 [turn the "8" on its side],
Tioga Joe

===========

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:13 -0700
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>

Leo,
You are so nice. Thanks.
You ignore the wonderful pleasure I have received being with all of you
these many years. Everytime we are together I am more enriched.
Peace and Love,
Michael
 --Compassion is the state of being in touch with the
bright, beautiful and flawed nature of humanity

=============

[Leo had written]

> In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at
> our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode
> out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the
> Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked
> like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the
> grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and
> had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by
> mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able
> to get our bigass campfire going.  Saturday evening we gathered in our
> campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a
> favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe
> out there.
> Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I
> replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows
> what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What
> might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that
> question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to
> Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American
> event! You are a great man.
> We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as
> our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
> If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/schvenhead/album?.dir=/13cb&.src=ph&.tok=phHvHSD
> BSPrzOQnn
> 
> PEACE,
> Leo 
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From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Thu Jul 14 10:51:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re-introduction
Message-ID: <B504322F45EF4FE8AD2B312652F028F3@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Way cool, Jim.

Joe (Tioga)

=========

From: James Pappaconstantine
Sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:44:27 -0700

Subject: Hi all... Some of you already know me (from the last HAIR list, though when it switched over I somehow got lost. But now I'm found again.) For those who do not, Hello, I'm James.Pappaconstantine but I don't dig James, so you can call me, Jim, Jimmy, Pappa... I was Leo's Berger for the 1997 and 1999 productions. Many of the cast as well as paitrons of those shows still call me Berger when we run into each other. This past weekend we had our annual Hair weekend of Peace. (where we had 3 tribes in a big field, complete with a tent city, BBQ, and bonfire.) But although there was as I say 3 tribes (or productions) we were actually all one. And I believe as I am sure all of you do as well that that trancends the world, and you, are also my tribe.. Anyway.. once was lost, now I'm found. Can't wait to catch up on all that I've missed. Peace Babies, JIM


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Jul 14 13:47:21 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul 14 13:53:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
In-Reply-To: <CCEC043401B9402582521C7E74EE654D@njdmava.state.nj.us>
Message-ID: <BEFC1D69.21F1E%michael@michaelbutler.com>

You all have to stop this. It was a collaboration. Keeping the spirit is
still a collaboration and you all are part of that.
Michael
-- Ego can make one assume more than Reality



> Leo!
> 
> Thanks for sharing shots of your wonderful Be-In.  And he's right, Michael.
> Without your hand in HAIR, undoubtedly I (and many others) would not have come
> to know and love it as I do.
> 
> Peace 8 [turn the "8" on its side],
> Tioga Joe
> 
> ===========
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:13 -0700
> From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> 
> Leo,
> You are so nice. Thanks.
> You ignore the wonderful pleasure I have received being with all of you
> these many years. Everytime we are together I am more enriched.
> Peace and Love,
> Michael
> --Compassion is the state of being in touch with the
> bright, beautiful and flawed nature of humanity
> 
> =============
> 
> [Leo had written]
> 
>> In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at
>> our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode
>> out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the
>> Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked
>> like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the
>> grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and
>> had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by
>> mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able
>> to get our bigass campfire going.  Saturday evening we gathered in our
>> campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a
>> favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe
>> out there.
>> Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I
>> replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows
>> what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What
>> might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that
>> question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to
>> Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American
>> event! You are a great man.
>> We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as
>> our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
>> If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
>> 
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/schvenhead/album?.dir=/13cb&.src=ph&.tok=phHvHS>>
D
>> BSPrzOQnn
>> 
>> PEACE,
>> Leo 
> 
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> 

From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 15:09:09 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Thu Jul 14 15:10:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 16
In-Reply-To: <200507141900.j6EJ08BV025491@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20050714220909.57684.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com>

>> You and 
>Seth are a real couple of cards! (Oh, wait!  That was
>just your 2003 
>>Halloween costumes! : )

oh ha ha....Very funny Tioga..... :)

-amy


		
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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 16:10:36 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Thu Jul 14 16:12:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
In-Reply-To: <BEFC1D69.21F1E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050714231036.86722.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com>

Michael.. Collaberation or not.. We thank you and your collaberators.. I was to blame for bringing the point up to Leo, that, "he" was the reason we were all together in the field last weekend, three casts deep and he has now openned that statement up even wider. No ego needed. Just sit back and smile and enjoy the impact that you made on all of us and in all of us changing the world, one mind at a time. Make Love Babies.. not War. JIM
 


Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:
You all have to stop this. It was a collaboration. Keeping the spirit is
still a collaboration and you all are part of that.
Michael
-- Ego can make one assume more than Reality



> Leo!
> 
> Thanks for sharing shots of your wonderful Be-In. And he's right, Michael.
> Without your hand in HAIR, undoubtedly I (and many others) would not have come
> to know and love it as I do.
> 
> Peace 8 [turn the "8" on its side],
> Tioga Joe
> 
> ===========
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:13 -0700
> From: Michael Butler 
> 
> Leo,
> You are so nice. Thanks.
> You ignore the wonderful pleasure I have received being with all of you
> these many years. Everytime we are together I am more enriched.
> Peace and Love,
> Michael
> --Compassion is the state of being in touch with the
> bright, beautiful and flawed nature of humanity
> 
> =============
> 
> [Leo had written]
> 
>> In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at
>> our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode
>> out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the
>> Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked
>> like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the
>> grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and
>> had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by
>> mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able
>> to get our bigass campfire going. Saturday evening we gathered in our
>> campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a
>> favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe
>> out there.
>> Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I
>> replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows
>> what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What
>> might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that
>> question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to
>> Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American
>> event! You are a great man.
>> We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as
>> our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
>> If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
>> 
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>> BSPrzOQnn
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>> PEACE,
>> Leo 
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From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul 14 18:51:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Great Full Report on Rove Controversy
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Also see below:    
David Gregory | Root of the Rove Controversy Is the War in Iraq    ?

    Go to Original

    Rove's War
    By Sidney Blumenthal
    Salon.com

    Thursday 14 July 2005

    Bush's right-hand man is dispatching his troops to smear Joe Wilson --
and save himself. He may win in Washington, but the special prosecutor will
have the last word.

    This is Karl Rove's war. From his command post next to the Oval Office
in the West Wing of the White House, he is furiously directing the order of
battle. The Republican National Committee lobs its talking points across
Washington, its chairman forays the no-man's-land of CNN. Rove's lawyer, Fox
News and the Wall Street Journal editorial board are sent over the top. Newt
Gingrich and Tom DeLay man the ramparts, defending Rove's character.

    For two years, since the appointment of an independent counsel to
investigate the disclosure of the identity of an undercover CIA operative,
President Bush and his press secretary, Scott McClellan, have repeatedly
denied the involvement of anyone in the White House. "Have you talked to
Karl and do you have confidence in him?" a reporter asked Bush on Sept. 30,
2003. "Listen, I know of nobody," he replied. "I don't know of anybody in my
administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak
classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate
action."

    Bush backed himself into that corner because of a sequence of events
beginning with the ultimate rationale he offered for the Iraq war. Public
support for the war had wavered until the administration asserted
unequivocally that Saddam Hussein was seeking to acquire and build nuclear
weapons. Its most incendiary claim was that he had tried to purchase
enriched yellowcake uranium in Niger. An Italian magazine, Panorama, had
received documents appearing to prove the charge. Former ambassador Joseph
Wilson was secretly sent by the CIA to investigate, and he found no evidence
to substantiate the story. The CIA subsequently protested inclusion of the
rumor in a draft of a Bush speech, and Bush delivered it on Oct. 7, 2002,
without it.

    But a month earlier, a British white paper had mentioned the Niger
rumor. And in his January 2003 State of the Union address, Bush said: "The
British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought
significant quantities of uranium from Africa." These 16 notorious words had
already been proved false, however (debunked by three separate reports from
administration officials, which were apparently ignored ahead of Bush's
speech). On March 7, 2003, the International Atomic Energy Agency announced
that the Niger documents were "not authentic." The following day, the State
Department concurred that they were forgeries. The invasion of Iraq began on
March 20.

    After the war began, the administration refused to acknowledge those 16
words were false. To set the record straight, Wilson wrote an Op-Ed article
on July 6, 2003, in the New York Times titled "What I Didn't Find in
Africa." It was the first crack in the credibility of the administration's
case for the war, suggesting that the underlying intelligence had been
abused, distorted and even forged. National Security Advisor Condoleezza
Rice later admitted, "It was information that was mistaken." And CIA
Director George Tenet said the lines "should never have been included in a
text written for the president."

    A week after Wilson's Op-Ed appeared, on July 14, conservative columnist
Robert Novak wrote that Wilson's "wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency
operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration
officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to
investigate the Italian report." The revelation of Plame's identity may be a
violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 -- a felony
carrying a 10-year prison sentence. Apparently, the release of Plame's
identity was political payback against Wilson by a White House that wanted
to shift the subject of the Iraq war to his motives.

    On July 30, the CIA referred a "crime report" to the Justice Department.
"If she was not undercover, we would not have a reason to file a criminal
referral," a CIA official said. On Dec. 30, the Justice Department appointed
Patrick Fitzgerald, U.S. attorney for northern Illinois, as the special
prosecutor.

    Fitzgerald's investigation stalled when two reporters he subpoenaed,
Matthew Cooper of Time magazine and Judith Miller of the New York Times,
initially refused to testify. But Time handed over Cooper's notes on his
conversation with Rove to the prosecutor, and Cooper eventually decided to
cooperate. Miller chose to remain in contempt of court and has been
imprisoned until the grand jury is dissolved. With the publication of
Cooper's memo to his editors two weeks ago, the White House was asked about
whether the president would adhere to its own "highest standards," as
McClellan had put it, and fire anyone involved in outing Plame. But since
Monday, both McClellan and Bush have refused to comment on the
investigation. While the White House stonewalls, Rove has license to run his
own damage-control operation. His surrogates argue that if Rove did
anything, it wasn't a crime. There's no cause for outrage, except at Joe
Wilson, and now, in a turn of the screw, Matt Cooper. The inhabitants of the
political village should busy themselves with their arts and crafts. No
one's status will be endangered or access withdrawn, it is implied, if they
do nothing rash. They should simply accept that exposing undercover CIA
operatives is part of politics as usual. Return to your homes. Stay calm.

    Rove is fighting his war as though it will be settled in a court of
Washington pundits. Brandishing his formidable political weapons, he seeks
to demonstrate his prowess once again. His corps of agents raises a din in
which their voices drown out individual dissidents. His frantic massing of
forces dominates the capital by winning the communications battle. Indeed,
Rove may succeed momentarily in quelling the storm. But the stillness may be
illusory. Before the prosecutor, Rove's arsenal is useless.

    Can the special counsel be confounded by manipulation of the Washington
chattering class? What's the obligation of a reporter to a source in this
case? What game are Rove and his surrogates playing? What are the legal
vulnerabilities of Rove and others in the White House?

    Wilson's article provided the first evidence that the reasons given for
the war were stoked by false information. But the attack on Wilson by
focusing on his wife is superficially perplexing. Even if the allegation
were true that she "authorized" his mission, as Rove told Cooper, it would
have no bearing whatsoever on the Niger forgeries, or any indictment. But
Rove's is a psychological operation intended to foster the perception that
the messenger is somehow untrustworthy and that therefore his message is
too. The aim is to distract and discredit. By creating an original taint on
Wilson's motives, an elaborate negative image has been constructed.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial of July 13 best reflected the
through-the-looking-glass Rovian defense and projection: "For Mr. Rove is
turning out to be the real "whistleblower" in this whole sorry
pseudo-scandal ... In short, Mr. Rove provided important background so
Americans could understand that Mr. Wilson wasn't a whistleblower but was a
partisan trying to discredit the Iraq War in an election campaign."

    In order to untangle this deceptive web, it's essential to return to the
beginning of the long disinformation campaign triggered by the publication
of Wilson's Op-Ed. The facts clarify not only the mendacity of the smears
but also the seeming quandary of the reporters who have become collateral
damage.

    In early 2002, Valerie Plame was an officer in the Directorate of
Operations of the CIA task force on counter-proliferation, dealing with
weapons of mass destruction, including Saddam's WMD programs. At that time,
as she had been for almost two decades, she was an undercover operative.
After training at "The Farm," the CIA's school for clandestine agents, she
became what the agency considers among its most valuable and dangerous
operatives -- a NOC, or someone who works under non-official cover. NOCs
travel without diplomatic passports, so if they are captured as spies they
have no immunity and can potentially be executed. As a NOC, Plame helped set
up a front company, Brewster-Jennings, whose cover has now been blown and
whose agents and contacts may be in danger still. After marrying Wilson in
1998, she took Wilson as her last name.

    When the Italian report on Niger uranium surfaced, Vice President
Cheney's office contacted the CIA's counter-proliferation office to look
into it. Such a request is called a "tasker." It was hardly the first query
the task force had received from the White House, and such requests were not
made through the CIA director's office, but directly. Plame's colleagues
asked her if she would invite her husband out to CIA headquarters at
Langley, Va., for a meeting with them, to assess the question.

    It was unsurprising that the CIA would seek out Wilson. He had already
performed one secret mission to Niger for the agency, in 1999, and was
trusted. Wilson had also had a distinguished and storied career as a Foreign
Service officer. He served as acting ambassador in Iraq during the Gulf War
and was hailed by the first President Bush as a "hero." Wilson was an
important part of the team and highly regarded by Secretary of State James
Baker and National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft. Wilson was also an
Africa specialist. He had been a diplomat in Niger, ambassador to Gabon and
senior director for Africa on the National Security Council during the
Clinton administration. (I first encountered Wilson then, and we have since
become friends.) No other professional had such an ideal background for this
CIA mission.

    Plame's superiors asked her to cable the field in Africa for routine
approval of an investigation of the Niger claim. At Langley, Wilson met with
about a dozen officers to discuss the situation. Plame was not at the
meeting. Afterward, Wilson informed his wife that he would be traveling to
Niger for about 10 days. She was not particularly enthusiastic, having
recently given birth to twins, but she understood the importance of the
mission. She had no authority to commission him. She was simply not the
responsible senior officer. Nor, if she had been, could she have done so
unilaterally. There was nothing of value to be gained personally from the
mission by either Joe or Valerie Wilson. He undertook the trip out of a
long-ingrained sense of government service.

    CIA officers debriefed Wilson the night of his return at his home. His
wife greeted the other operatives, but excused herself. She later read a
copy of his debriefing report, but she made no changes in it. The next they
spoke of Niger uranium was when they heard President Bush's mention of it in
his 2003 State of the Union address.

    Attributing Wilson's trip to his wife's supposed authority became the
predicate for a smear campaign against his credibility. Seven months after
the appointment of the special counsel, in July 2004, the
Republican-dominated Senate Select Committee on Intelligence issued its
report on flawed intelligence leading to the Iraq war. The blame for failure
was squarely put on the CIA for "groupthink." (The Republicans quashed a
promised second report on political pressure on the intelligence process.)
The three-page addendum by the ranking Republicans followed the now
well-worn attack lines: "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was
suggested by the former ambassador's wife, a CIA employee."

    The CIA subsequently issued a statement, as reported by New York Newsday
and CNN, that the Republican senators' conclusion about Plame's role was
wholly inaccurate. But the Washington Post's Susan Schmidt reported only the
Republican senators' version, writing that Wilson was "specifically
recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he
has said publicly," in a memo she wrote. Schmidt quoted a CIA official in
the senators' account saying that Plame had "offered up" Wilson's name.
Plame's memo, in fact, was written at the express directive of her superiors
two days before Wilson was to come to Langley for his meeting to describe
his qualifications in a standard protocol to receive "country clearance."
Unfortunately, Schmidt's article did not reflect this understanding of
routine CIA procedure. The CIA officer who wrote the memo that originally
recommended Wilson for the mission -- who was cited anonymously by the
senators as the only source who said that Plame was responsible -- was
deeply upset at the twisting of his testimony, which was not public, and
told Plame he had said no such thing. CIA spokesman Bill Harlow told Wilson
that the Republican Senate staff never contacted him for the agency's
information on the matter.

    Curiously, the only document cited as the basis for Plame's role was a
State Department memo that was later debunked by the CIA. The Washington
Post, on Dec. 26, 2003, reported: "CIA officials have challenged the
accuracy of the ... document, the official said, because the agency officer
identified as talking about Plame's alleged role in arranging Wilson's trip
could not have attended the meeting. 'It has been circulated around,' one
official said." Even more curious, one of the outlets where the document was
circulated was Talon News Service and its star correspondent, Jeff Gannon
(aka Guckert). (Talon was revealed to be a partisan front for a Texas-based
operation called GOPUSA and Gannon was exposed as a male prostitute, without
previous journalistic credentials yet with easy and unexplained access to
the White House.) According to the Post, "the CIA believes that people in
the administration continue to release classified information to damage the
figures at the center of the controversy."

    Fitzgerald sought testimony from Cooper because he had published an
article on the Wilson case, citing anonymous White House sources. Miller had
published no article at all. Apparently, another witness gave up Miller's
name to the prosecutor under questioning. Who that witness might be and
under what circumstances he cited Miller is unknown. (In the run-up to the
war, Miller's articles on WMD were crucial in creating a political
atmosphere favorable to the administration's case. But her articles were
later revealed to be false, based on disinformation, and the Times published
a long apology.)

    Both Cooper and Miller argued that they were entitled to journalistic
privilege to protect their sources. But the court ruled against them. U.S.
District Court Judge Thomas Hogan's opinion suggested that the prosecutor's
case had deepened and widened.

    In discussing the sealed affidavit filed by Fitzgerald, and not privy to
the defendants, Hogan stated that the "Special Counsel outlines in great
detail the developments in this case and the investigation as a whole. The
ex parte affidavit establishes that the government's focus has shifted as it
has acquired additional information during the course of the investigation.
Special Counsel now needs to pursue different avenues in order to complete
its investigation." Judge Hogan concluded that "the subpoenas were not
issued in an attempt to harass the [reporters], but rather stem from
legitimate needs due to an unanticipated shift in the grand jury's
investigation."

    Now Miller languishes in jail and Cooper has testified before the grand
jury. Is Miller protecting her sources, or does the prosecutor seek to
question her as a disseminator of information? Should a journalist protect a
source if that person has not provided true information as best they know,
but disinformation? What is the obligation of reporters to protect people
who have misled them?

    In the best-case scenario for Miller, Bill Kovach believes that any
pledge she may have made to a source should be invalid. Kovach is the former
Washington bureau chief of the New York Times, former curator of the Nieman
Foundation for Journalism at Harvard University and founding director of the
Committee of Concerned Journalists. He describes the internal policy set
within the Times on sources. "By the 1980s, we decided that we had to set
some limits because reporters had been misled and the credibility of the
news reports had been damaged by misleading sources. When I was chief of the
bureau in Washington, we laid down a rule to the reporters that when they
wanted to establish anonymity they had to lay out ground rules that if
anything the source said was damaging, false or damaged the credibility of
the newspaper we would identify them."

    In the Plame matter, Kovach sees no obligation of the reporters to false
sources. "If a man damages your credibility, why not lay the blame where it
belongs? If Plame were an operative, she wouldn't have the authority to send
someone. Whoever was leaking that information to Novak, Cooper or Judy
Miller was doing it with malice aforethought, trying to set up a deceptive
circumstance. That would invalidate any promise of confidentiality. You
wouldn't protect a source for telling lies or using you to mislead your
audience. That changes everything. Any reporter that puts themselves or a
news organization in that position is making a big mistake."

    Obviously, the Times is not imposing the rules in its present crisis
that Kovach was involved in making. Are the editors unfocused on the
underlying facts and falsehoods? Do the editors have a responsibility to
determine who is a fair source and who is a deceiver? Has anyone fully
debriefed Miller? For now, the Times is frozen in its heroic defense of the
First Amendment.

    Washington, meanwhile, is an echo chamber of Rove's agents. His lawyer,
Robert Luskin, has trashed Cooper: "By any definition, he burned Karl Rove."
RNC chairman Ken Mehlman has appeared on talk shows, given newspaper
interviews and circulated a three-page memo of talking points to Republican
surrogates. In one brief statement, for example, Mehlman said: "The fact is
Karl Rove did not leak classified information. He did not, according to what
we learned this past weekend, reveal the name of anybody. He didn't even
know the name ... He tried to discourage a reporter from writing a story
that was false."

    Mehlman's farrago of lies and distortions may be a fair representation
of Rove's fears. Is it "the fact" that Rove didn't leak classified
information? Plame's identity of course was classified. That is why the CIA
referred the matter to the Department of Justice for investigation. But is
Mehlman disclosing yet another Rove worry? The prosecutor can indict under
any statute, including simply leaking classified information. Is Rove afraid
of being indicted under that law, not just the one that makes it a crime to
identify Plame? Mehlman raises a further Rove anxiety. No, Rove didn't
"reveal the name." But the law doesn't cite that as a felony; it only
specifies revealing the "identity" as a crime. It says nothing about a
"name." Rove revealed "Joe Wilson's wife." That qualifies as an "identity."
By the way, Plame did not go by the name of Plame, but Wilson -- in other
words, Mrs. Wilson, or "Joe Wilson's wife." Rove seemed to know that much --
her identity.

    Helpfully guiding a reporter to the truth and away from "a story that
was false"? Indeed, Rove was planting two false stories, not just one. The
first was that "Joe Wilson's wife" had sent him on his mission; the second
was to suggest that Wilson was wrong and that there would be new information
to support the original Bush falsehood. In fact, the White House admitted
that Wilson was correct and that Bush's 16 words were wrong. Yet Rove
attempted to insinuate doubt in the mind of the reporter to discourage him
from writing a story that was true.

    At one point, on CNN, Wolf Blitzer asked Mehlman if he had attended
meetings at the White House on how to deal with Wilson. Suddenly, the
voluble Mehlman constricted. "I don't recall those meetings occurring," he
said. Has the prosecutor inquired about such meetings and their
participants?

    The sound and fury of Rove's defenders will soon subside. The last word,
the only word that matters, will belong to the prosecutor. So far, he has
said very, very little. Unlike the unprofessional, inexperienced and weak
Ken Starr, he does not leak illegally to the press. But he has commented
publicly on his understanding of the case. "This case," he said, "is not
about a whistle-blower. It's about a potential retaliation against a
whistle-blower."

    -------

    Sidney Blumenthal, a former assistant and senior advisor to President
Clinton and the author of The Clinton Wars, is writing a column for Salon
and the Guardian of London.

 

    Go to Original

    Root of the Rove Controversy Is the War in Iraq
    By David Gregory
    NBC News

    Wednesday 13 July 2005

    US justification for waging war on Saddam still haunts White House.

    Washington - President Bush said Wednesday that he will reserve judgment
on Karl Rove's possible involvement in the leaking of a CIA agent's identity
until the special prosecutor's criminal investigation into the matter is
complete.

    "This is a serious investigation," Bush said at the end of a meeting
with his Cabinet, with Rove, his deputy chief of staff, sitting just behind
him. "I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this
investigation is completed," Bush said.

    While the White House seemingly stands by its man, NBC News chief White
House correspondent David Gregory discusses the investigation, how the
administration is expected to proceed, and how the root of the scandal is
once again the controversial justifications for the war in Iraq.

    Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, came to Rove's defense
during a press briefing Tuesday by saying, "Any individual who works here at
the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn't be
working here at the White House if they didn't." What is the likelihood that
Bush would ever actually fire Rove, a close confidant and the architect of
his re-election campaign?
I think, were Karl Rove to be indicted for any crime, it would be impossible
for the president to keep him on. Short of that, I don't think that he will
go anywhere. I think the president will stand behind him.

    If you look, the president's past comments were pretty clear: that
anyone who is responsible for leaking classified information, which is a
crime, would be fired. Until and unless that's proven in this case, I don't
think that Karl Rove will go anywhere.

    As to the question of whether what Karl Rove did was a smear campaign,
or politically sleazy, it's pretty clear to me that everyone in White House
- from the president, to the vice president, to other officials - shared
Rove's interest in discrediting former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who was
critical of the administration's case for going to war in Iraq.

    Other than standing by Rove, how much longer can the White House remain
silent and dodge this issue?
The president spoke out this morning to say it's an ongoing investigation
and that they should get to the bottom of it. But, beyond that, he'll try to
make it clear that Karl Rove continues to do his job as normal, that it's
business as usual, and that he retains the president's confidence. It's
pretty clear that's the case.

    The White House has a political problem because they have made
statements that are wrong and that are no longer accurate. That's brought
the heat on them.

    The president just said today that he "will not prejudge the
investigation based on media reports." So, it doesn't appear that he is
going to comment beyond that.

    What is the legal basis behind the whole case? The law says that you
have to have known the person is a covert agent and that you have to
intentionally disclose that. Not accidentally disclose it, but intentionally
disclose it.

    Based on what we know so far, Karl Rove did not do that.

    Now, that's the legal standard, but there is a different standard
politically. That's what is being debated now.

    Rove has testified before the grand jury, now we know the contents of
this e-mail, and we know that [Time magazine reporter] Matt Cooper will
testify [today]. But, based on what we know so far, Rove never used her
name, which is not as important as the fact that he did not reveal that she
was a covert agent.

    What more can we learn from Matt Cooper's testimony today? I think it
will be interesting to see what questions he is asked, if we can figure that
out.

    The line of questions may say something about what the special
prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, is interested in learning and where he is
going with the case. That's the key thing, whether Matt Cooper essentially
confirms the substance of the e-mail he turned over.

    Is this a case of the curse of the second-term scandal? No, it would be
the curse of the first term. This happened in the first term. This is
perhaps the curse of a controversial basis for going to war.

    Really what this is about is the case for going into Iraq. The issue is
really the debates about the war, the evidence that was used to go to war,
and the claims that were made by this administration that proved to be
false.

 


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Jul 14 18:16:18 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Jul 14 18:55:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Organic Farming Produces Same Corn and Soybean Yields as
	Conventional Farms,
	but Consumes Less Energy and No Pesticides, Study Finds
Message-ID: <BEFC5C72.21F5A%michael@michaelbutler.com>

    Go to Original

    Organic Farming Produces Same Corn and Soybean Yields as Conventional
Farms,
    but Consumes Less Energy and No Pesticides, Study Finds
    By Susan S. Lang
    Cornell University

    Wednesday 13 July 2005

    Ithaca, NY - Organic farming produces the same yields of corn and
soybeans as does conventional farming, but uses 30 percent less energy, less
water and no pesticides, a review of a 22-year farming trial study
concludes.

    David Pimentel, a Cornell University professor of ecology and
agriculture, concludes, "Organic farming offers real advantages for such
crops as corn and soybeans." Pimentel is the lead author of a study that is
published in the July issue of Bioscience (Vol. 55:7) analyzing the
environmental, energy and economic costs and benefits of growing soybeans
and corn organically versus conventionally. The study is a review of the
Rodale Institute Farming Systems Trial, the longest running comparison of
organic vs. conventional farming in the United States.

    "Organic farming approaches for these crops not only use an average of
30 percent less fossil energy but also conserve more water in the soil,
induce less erosion, maintain soil quality and conserve more biological
resources than conventional farming does," Pimentel added.

    The study compared a conventional farm that used recommended fertilizer
and pesticide applications with an organic animal-based farm (where manure
was applied) and an organic legume-based farm (that used a three-year
rotation of hairy vetch/corn and rye/soybeans and wheat). The two organic
systems received no chemical fertilizers or pesticides.

    Inter-institutional collaboration included Rodale Institute agronomists
Paul Hepperly and Rita Seidel, U.S. Department of Agriculture's Agricultural
Research Service research microbiologist David Douds Jr. and University of
Maryland agricultural economist James Hanson. The research compared soil
fungi activity, crop yields, energy efficiency, costs, organic matter
changes over time, nitrogen accumulation and nitrate leaching across organic
and conventional agricultural systems.

    "First and foremost, we found that corn and soybean yields were the same
across the three systems," said Pimentel, who noted that although organic
corn yields were about one-third lower during the first four years of the
study, over time the organic systems produced higher yields, especially
under drought conditions. The reason was that wind and water erosion
degraded the soil on the conventional farm while the soil on the organic
farms steadily improved in organic matter, moisture, microbial activity and
other soil quality indicators.

    The fact that organic agriculture systems also absorb and retain
significant amounts of carbon in the soil has implications for global
warming, Pimentel said, pointing out that soil carbon in the organic systems
increased by 15 to 28 percent, the equivalent of taking about 3,500 pounds
of carbon dioxide per hectare out of the air.

    Among the study's other findings:

    * In the drought years, 1988 to 1998, corn yields in the legume-based
system were 22 percent higher than yields in the conventional system.
    * The soil nitrogen levels in the organic farming systems increased 8 to
15 percent. Nitrate leaching was about equivalent in the organic and
conventional farming systems.
    * Organic farming reduced local and regional groundwater pollution by
not applying agricultural chemicals.

    Pimentel noted that although cash crops cannot be grown as frequently
over time on organic farms because of the dependence on cultural practices
to supply nutrients and control pests and because labor costs average about
15 percent higher in organic farming systems, the higher prices that organic
foods command in the marketplace still make the net economic return per acre
either equal to or higher than that of conventionally produced crops.

    Organic farming can compete effectively in growing corn, soybeans,
wheat, barley and other grains, Pimentel said, but it might not be as
favorable for growing such crops as grapes, apples, cherries and potatoes,
which have greater pest problems.

    The study was funded by the Rodale Institute and included a review of
current literature on organic and conventional agriculture comparisons.
According to Pimentel, dozens of scientific papers reporting on research
from the Rodale Institute Farming Systems Trial have been published in
prestigious refereed journals over the past 20 years.

 

From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 14 20:56:47 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Thu Jul 14 20:58:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Back from the HAIR gathering
In-Reply-To: <BEFC1D69.21F1E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050715035648.90243.qmail@web53409.mail.yahoo.com>

Michael, your humility is one of many of your greatest traits ;). You just need to accept the fact that we all love you dearly. Even though we all know it was a tribe collaboration, you have always been the most faithful torch bearer. 
 
I think Lennon and McCartney said it best, "and in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make."
 
Love you always ~ Jonathon

Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:
You all have to stop this. It was a collaboration. Keeping the spirit is
still a collaboration and you all are part of that.
Michael
-- Ego can make one assume more than Reality



> Leo!
> 
> Thanks for sharing shots of your wonderful Be-In. And he's right, Michael.
> Without your hand in HAIR, undoubtedly I (and many others) would not have come
> to know and love it as I do.
> 
> Peace 8 [turn the "8" on its side],
> Tioga Joe
> 
> ===========
> 
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:37:13 -0700
> From: Michael Butler 
> 
> Leo,
> You are so nice. Thanks.
> You ignore the wonderful pleasure I have received being with all of you
> these many years. Everytime we are together I am more enriched.
> Peace and Love,
> Michael
> --Compassion is the state of being in touch with the
> bright, beautiful and flawed nature of humanity
> 
> =============
> 
> [Leo had written]
> 
>> In spite of shaky weather this past Friday evening, we had a great time at
>> our HAIR gathering/powwow. All 3 years (97,99,03) were represented. We rode
>> out the remnants of "Cindy" on Friday night; the groovy thing was one of the
>> Tribe brought along this 20'x30' canopy which we named Big Top cuz it looked
>> like a circus tent. But, it kept us dry Friday night and we dragged the
>> grill, chairs, picnic table, and other supplies underneath the Big Top and
>> had a great evening. Saturday morning the weather started to break and by
>> mid afternoon we were pretty much finished with the showers so we were able
>> to get our bigass campfire going. Saturday evening we gathered in our
>> campfire circle had a sing through of HAIR and then everyone shared a
>> favortite HAIR moment. I believe (in love) we ended up with about 23 Tribe
>> out there.
>> Someone had stated that we were all at that gathering cuz of me and I
>> replied that we were all at that gathering cuz of Michael. I mean who knows
>> what woulda happened had this gentle spirit chosen NOT to produce HAIR? What
>> might HAIR's fate have been? Fortunately we'll never have to ask that
>> question. So wherever people gather for a HAIR celebration, it's thanks to
>> Michael. Thanks Michael for attending what you thought was a Native American
>> event! You are a great man.
>> We split Sunday morning and logged the second weekend of July next year as
>> our fourth annual HAIR powwow and gathering of the Tribes.
>> If you're interested you can go to this link and check out some pics I took:
>> 
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/schvenhead/album?.dir=/13cb&.src=ph&.tok=phHvHS>>
D
>> BSPrzOQnn
>> 
>> PEACE,
>> Leo 
> 
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Fri Jul 15 10:44:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: A Dumb Donkey Report
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This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com

Important Read
Sending again worth your while
Michael

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A Dumb Donkey Report
http://www.alternet.org/story/23368

The DNC's 2004 Election Report is well, just like the rest of the Party: tepid, afraid to address the real issues, and unprepared to avoid the same failures in 2006 and 2008. 
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul 15 13:16:15 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (barbarasiomos38@msn.com)
Date: Fri Jul 15 13:17:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MADRE: Help MADRE Deliver Emergency Aid to Women and
	Families Devastated by Hurricane Dennis
Message-ID: <20050715201615.10794.qmail@ash.phpwebhosting.com>

barbarasiomos38@msn.com has sent you a link from the MADRE website!
 
For those who would like to help out Cuba after the hurricane damage....

Thank you...
peace,
barbara
 
Help MADRE Deliver Emergency Aid to Women and Families Devastated by Hurricane Dennis
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sat Jul 16 10:27:49 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Jul 16 10:29:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Harry Potter Works His Magic Again in a Far
	Darker Tale
Message-ID: <20050716172749.9949011F9E5@lax-gw07.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

BOOKS | July 16, 2005
Books of The Times | 'Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince': Harry Potter Works His Magic Again in a Far Darker Tale
By MICHIKO KAKUTANI
A harrowing denouement that sees the death of yet another important person in Harry's life renders "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" the darkest and most unsettling installment yet.
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From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sat Jul 16 14:58:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
References: <200507151900.j6FJ096j028347@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <003401c58a51$58662380$6401a8c0@Leo>

Katie & Ross, we haven't heard much from you two lately. How's the HAIR 
journey treating you these days? You two gotta be tripping from Potsville to 
Moonville via Mainline. Katie, did you get things squared away with your 
black brothers & sisters? Ross, how are the youth of America taking to 
rehearsals and the message of HAIR? I'm freaking for some information!

PEACE,
Leo 


From ace at aceross.com  Sun Jul 17 20:34:47 2005
From: ace at aceross.com (Sherwin)
Date: Sun Jul 17 20:36:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Fwd: Fw: A must send...keep it rolling!
Message-ID: <20050718033449.A201083D1A@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

Pass it forward

 

  _____  

 

Hey..

 

I think the most patriotic thing we could all do is to let this
administration know that we aren't the witless buffoons they take us for. We
will no longer accept their blatant lies. We will no longer line THEIR
pockets in the name of freedom while they themselves have so obviously
distorted & abused our freedoms as Americans.

 

If we are going to pray, let's pray that sanity will be restored to our
government before any more blood is shed just so that rich men can get
richer....

 

By the way, speaking of rich families ... whatever happened to Osama Bin
Laden?

 

Hope all is well otherwise....

 

J 

 

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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 08:00:30 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Mon Jul 18 08:02:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
In-Reply-To: <003401c58a51$58662380$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F41B698A9E82CA18D79ACB9ADD50@phx.gbl>

I have been wanting to update all of you~ but have not had a second to 
breathe....thank you for the nudge...

The roller coaster continues, but all aspects of the ride are a joy.
After sitting down with many different people, I finally got a group of 
three women and three men to come out to rehearsal- the boys seemed excited, 
and the girls suspicious.  Their choral director from their church, Mr. 
Smith, came with them.  As they were incapable of deciding what to do on 
their own, I could only talk to Mr. Smith.  I showed him the score, talked 
at length about the different aspects of the musical, and my vision...so 
they left me with the impression that they would think about it.  Five days 
later i had not heard from anyone, so I went back to the HillCrest Center 
(which incidentally is like an island, across this bridge into the 
projects...and at the foot of the bridge there is a sign that says, "dead 
end"...wow)  So, I went in to find him and he said, "we are not going to be 
able to do it", "none of you?", I said. "Something else is going on that 
weekend"....
and Mrs. Butler, the woman I had talked with for over an hour, who was so 
excited about the project, couldn't meet my eye as I gave her a hug goodbye.
That was hard.

So, I get to rehearsal, that very evening, and who should show up, but three 
beautiful, black men!
(seems awesome, and here is where i have to fight the cynicism:
two of them have not come back to rehearsals and the last one, showed up to 
the next rehearsal with 62 stiched from his ear to Adam's Apple, as someone 
had tried to cut his throat with a kitchen knife the night before!)
If any of you want to start a novena, that would be cool :)

But some of the cast and I are going to the Cherokee reservation tonight to 
see UNTO THESE HILLS, the outdoor drama about the story of the Cherokee.  We 
are going to talk to some of the cast afterwards, and hopefully will 
establish a connection up there.

I'm trying to get the local high schools involved, and hope they will let us 
come in to talk to the kids about social activism through theatre and talk 
about the '60s with them.  Fingers crossed.

If only I were three people, then I know I could get it all done and get the 
sponsorship I need.
I believe in the power of intention- please send some positive, 
organizational vibes my way! :)

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
Peace,
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


From michael at intrafi.com  Mon Jul 18 08:50:26 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Mon Jul 18 08:52:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: New York Medicaid Fraud May Reach Into
	Billions
Message-ID: <20050718155026.5164083DDC@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

NEW YORK REGION | July 18, 2005
New York Medicaid Fraud May Reach Into Billions
By CLIFFORD J. LEVY and MICHAEL LUO
The program, the largest of its kind in the nation, has become a $44.5 billion target for egregious abuse.
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From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 18 10:30:47 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV13E2B909C33417C0BDD215ABD50@phx.gbl>

Katie....

However this turns out for you, you could not have done more.... Hang in there.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:00:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross

I have been wanting to update all of you~ but have not had a second to 
breathe....thank you for the nudge...

The roller coaster continues, but all aspects of the ride are a joy.
After sitting down with many different people, I finally got a group of 
three women and three men to come out to rehearsal- the boys seemed excited, 
and the girls suspicious.  Their choral director from their church, Mr. 
Smith, came with them.  As they were incapable of deciding what to do on 
their own, I could only talk to Mr. Smith.  I showed him the score, talked 
at length about the different aspects of the musical, and my vision...so 
they left me with the impression that they would think about it.  Five days 
later i had not heard from anyone, so I went back to the HillCrest Center 
(which incidentally is like an island, across this bridge into the 
projects...and at the foot of the bridge there is a sign that says, "dead 
end"...wow)  So, I went in to find him and he said, "we are not going to be 
able to do it", "none of you?", I said. "Something else is going on that 
weekend"....
and Mrs. Butler, the woman I had talked with for over an hour, who was so 
excited about the project, couldn't meet my eye as I gave her a hug goodbye.
That was hard.

So, I get to rehearsal, that very evening, and who should show up, but three 
beautiful, black men!
(seems awesome, and here is where i have to fight the cynicism:
two of them have not come back to rehearsals and the last one, showed up to 
the next rehearsal with 62 stiched from his ear to Adam's Apple, as someone 
had tried to cut his throat with a kitchen knife the night before!)
If any of you want to start a novena, that would be cool :)

But some of the cast and I are going to the Cherokee reservation tonight to 
see UNTO THESE HILLS, the outdoor drama about the story of the Cherokee.  We 
are going to talk to some of the cast afterwards, and hopefully will 
establish a connection up there.

I'm trying to get the local high schools involved, and hope they will let us 
come in to talk to the kids about social activism through theatre and talk 
about the '60s with them.  Fingers crossed.

If only I were three people, then I know I could get it all done and get the 
sponsorship I need.
I believe in the power of intention- please send some positive, 
organizational vibes my way! :)

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
Peace,
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 13:13:34 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Jul 18 13:15:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
Message-ID: <BAY104-F68ECA558B7BE1A4FAA1C4B2D50@phx.gbl>

Hi folks,

Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With 
TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html

U.S (alphabetical by state)

Illinois

Extended for the 3rd time

Lakeshore Theater
3175 N. Broadway
Chicago, IL 60657
(Broadway and Belmont)
To reserve tickets:
Box Office: 773-472-3492
Online: http://www.tickets.com

Beginning April 27, 2005
Wednesdays and Sundays at 7:00pm
Students: $15
General Admission: $20

For information : (773) 857 0554 or tickets@tonkawatheatretribe.com

http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm


****************

Elmwood Park Community Theatre
Elmwood Park High School auditorium
8201 W. Fullerton Avenue, Elmwood Park, IL. 60707
July 15 - July 24, 2005
Fridays & Saturdays at 7:30 pm, Sundays at 2:00 pm.
Tickets $10 at the door, general admission

Louisiana

Artists Cooperative Theatre
Metairie, LA
August 12 - 14, 2005

Maryland
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD
February 24 - March 4, 2006
http://www.smcm.edu/


Massachusetts
Barrington Stage Company
August 3 - 7 at the Mahaiwe in Great Barrington
Aug. 10 - 14 at the Berkshire Music Hall in Pittsfield
Semi-staged concert version
http://www.barringtonstageco.org/index.html
Box office: 413-528-8888

*********

Danvers Youth Theatre
Danvers, MA
http://www.danversyouththeatre.org/
August 12 - 14, 2005

Michigan

The Barn Theatre
13351 West M-96
Augusta, MI 49012
August 9 - 21, 2005
Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri - 8:30, Saturday - 6:00 and 9:00, Sunday - 5:00 and 
sometimes 8:30
Box Office open 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. 269-731-4121
http://www.barntheatre.com/Default.htm


Missouri

Washington University
Edison Theatre
St. Louis, MO
October 7 - 16, 2005

October 7 and 8, 14 and 15 @ 8 pm
October 9 and 16 @ 2 pm
http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/~pad/


New Jersey

Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
November 10 - 19, 2005
http://www.rider.edu/


New York

Laguardia High School of the Performing Arts (This one is Ross Tatum"s. Yeah 
Ross!)
December 8 - 17, 2005
100 Amsterdam Avenue
New York City
212-496-0700
http://www.laguardiahs.org/home.html

*******

Wagner College
One Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
April 5 - 23, 2006

Long Lake Camp for the Arts
Augsut 28, 2005
(518) 624-4831


North Carolina

Wings Dance Company (This one is Katie's. Yeah Katie!!)
Asheville, NC
September 9 -10, 2005


Oregon

2nd Street Theater
220 NE Lafayette Ave
Bend, OR 97701
(541) 312-9626
January 19 - February 11, 2006
Auditions - November 14 & 15, 7pm
http://2ndstreettheater.com/


Vermont

University of Vermont
The Royall Tyler Theatre
Burlington, VT
November 9 - 20, 2005
802-656-2094 to leave message
Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


Canada

Toronto

Oakwood Collegiate Institute
January 18 - 21, 2006


Europe

England

London

The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
Previews start September 12, 2005
Opening night September 22, 2005
Running through October 8, 2005
Phone 020 7229 5387
http://www.gatetheatre.co.uk

Germany

Tecklenburg, Freilichtspiele
Freilichtspiele
inGerman
August 15 - September 30, 2005
Previews starting July 30, 2005

*******

Biberach, Jugendkunstschule
Stadthalle
in German
September 24 - October 9, 2005

*******

German Tour

Xanten, Arena Theater GmbH
Touring production
English
Season 2005/06
Premiere : 11/9/05

Zwickau, Theater Plauen-Zwickau
Großes Haus
Mix-Version
26.02.05-31.07.06
Premiere : 2/12/05

Hof, Städtebundtheater
Theater Hof
Mix-Version
30.11.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 10/23/04

Pforzheim, Stadttheater
Großes Haus
Mix-Version
15.06.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 6/4/04



Hungary

Gárdonyi Géza Theatre,
Address: H-3300 Eger city, Hatvani, kapu Sq. 4
July 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16 and 17, at 21H (9pm)
In case of rain: July 11 and/or 18

Norway

Kristiansand, Norway
Premieres - February 24, 2005
http://www.kultopia.no/


Spain

Cala Blava, Spain
Center Stage Productions
September 16 - 17, 2005



Australia

Altona

Altona City Theatre Company
Hobson's Bay Council Theatre

July 1 - 24, 2005

(03) 9398-5508,  8310-5550 or tickets@altonacitytheatre.com.au

*******

Aitkenvale

North Queensland Opera & Music Theatre Company

October 11 - 15, 2006

http://www.nqomt.org.au/


From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 18 13:32:55 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Jul 18 13:34:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F41B698A9E82CA18D79ACB9ADD50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F288EDE41A29888FDC72FE8B2D50@phx.gbl>

Wow, Katie. Thanks for the update, and for your commitment. Whatever happens 
your production is bound to be outstanding with you at the helm. We do send 
all kinds of positive vibes you way. I can't wait to hear what happens next. 
We are all with you.
Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Jul 19 10:51:06 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Jul 19 10:53:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV10AF8DA116F53EE25D10AEABD40@phx.gbl>

WoW! That is awesome Nina HAiR is almost everywhere....    :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Little Birdie
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:13:34 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions

Hi folks,

Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With 
TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html

U.S (alphabetical by state)

Illinois

Extended for the 3rd time

Lakeshore Theater
3175 N. Broadway
Chicago, IL 60657
(Broadway and Belmont)
To reserve tickets:
Box Office: 773-472-3492
Online: http://www.tickets.com

Beginning April 27, 2005
Wednesdays and Sundays at 7:00pm
Students: $15
General Admission: $20

For information : (773) 857 0554 or tickets@tonkawatheatretribe.com

http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm


****************

Elmwood Park Community Theatre
Elmwood Park High School auditorium
8201 W. Fullerton Avenue, Elmwood Park, IL. 60707
July 15 - July 24, 2005
Fridays & Saturdays at 7:30 pm, Sundays at 2:00 pm.
Tickets $10 at the door, general admission

Louisiana

Artists Cooperative Theatre
Metairie, LA
August 12 - 14, 2005

Maryland
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD
February 24 - March 4, 2006
http://www.smcm.edu/


Massachusetts
Barrington Stage Company
August 3 - 7 at the Mahaiwe in Great Barrington
Aug. 10 - 14 at the Berkshire Music Hall in Pittsfield
Semi-staged concert version
http://www.barringtonstageco.org/index.html
Box office: 413-528-8888

*********

Danvers Youth Theatre
Danvers, MA
http://www.danversyouththeatre.org/
August 12 - 14, 2005

Michigan

The Barn Theatre
13351 West M-96
Augusta, MI 49012
August 9 - 21, 2005
Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri - 8:30, Saturday - 6:00 and 9:00, Sunday - 5:00 and 
sometimes 8:30
Box Office open 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. 269-731-4121
http://www.barntheatre.com/Default.htm


Missouri

Washington University
Edison Theatre
St. Louis, MO
October 7 - 16, 2005

October 7 and 8, 14 and 15 @ 8 pm
October 9 and 16 @ 2 pm
http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/~pad/


New Jersey

Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
November 10 - 19, 2005
http://www.rider.edu/


New York

Laguardia High School of the Performing Arts (This one is Ross Tatum"s. Yeah 
Ross!)
December 8 - 17, 2005
100 Amsterdam Avenue
New York City
212-496-0700
http://www.laguardiahs.org/home.html

*******

Wagner College
One Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
April 5 - 23, 2006

Long Lake Camp for the Arts
Augsut 28, 2005
(518) 624-4831


North Carolina

Wings Dance Company (This one is Katie's. Yeah Katie!!)
Asheville, NC
September 9 -10, 2005


Oregon

2nd Street Theater
220 NE Lafayette Ave
Bend, OR 97701
(541) 312-9626
January 19 - February 11, 2006
Auditions - November 14 & 15, 7pm
http://2ndstreettheater.com/


Vermont

University of Vermont
The Royall Tyler Theatre
Burlington, VT
November 9 - 20, 2005
802-656-2094 to leave message
Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


Canada

Toronto

Oakwood Collegiate Institute
January 18 - 21, 2006


Europe

England

London

The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
Previews start September 12, 2005
Opening night September 22, 2005
Running through October 8, 2005
Phone 020 7229 5387
http://www.gatetheatre.co.uk

Germany

Tecklenburg, Freilichtspiele
Freilichtspiele
inGerman
August 15 - September 30, 2005
Previews starting July 30, 2005

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Biberach, Jugendkunstschule
Stadthalle
in German
September 24 - October 9, 2005

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German Tour

Xanten, Arena Theater GmbH
Touring production
English
Season 2005/06
Premiere : 11/9/05

Zwickau, Theater Plauen-Zwickau
Groes Haus
Mix-Version
26.02.05-31.07.06
Premiere : 2/12/05

Hof, Stdtebundtheater
Theater Hof
Mix-Version
30.11.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 10/23/04

Pforzheim, Stadttheater
Groes Haus
Mix-Version
15.06.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 6/4/04



Hungary

Grdonyi Gza Theatre,
Address: H-3300 Eger city, Hatvani, kapu Sq. 4
July 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16 and 17, at 21H (9pm)
In case of rain: July 11 and/or 18

Norway

Kristiansand, Norway
Premieres - February 24, 2005
http://www.kultopia.no/


Spain

Cala Blava, Spain
Center Stage Productions
September 16 - 17, 2005



Australia

Altona

Altona City Theatre Company
Hobson's Bay Council Theatre

July 1 - 24, 2005

(03) 9398-5508,  8310-5550 or tickets@altonacitytheatre.com.au

*******

Aitkenvale

North Queensland Opera & Music Theatre Company

October 11 - 15, 2006

http://www.nqomt.org.au/


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Jul 19 11:57:21 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Jul 19 12:35:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] STUFF HAPPENS
Message-ID: <BF029B23.221D7%michael@michaelbutler.com>

STUFF HAPPENS
 
Yesterday I saw the final performance of STUFF HAPPENS by David Hare. Gordon
Davidson directed this American Premiere, starring Keith Carradine
 
It was a triple-header for me. The subject referred to the famous words,
?stuff happens? uttered by our Secretary of Defense (original named War by
our founding fathers). Donald Rumsfeld was referring to press queries about
the trashing of Baghdad. The wholesale destruction of great portions of the
city. Demolished in particular were sites of great cultural importance to
the world. Libraries and museums wiped out at the site of the world?s oldest
civilizations. Nothing so devastating had happened there since the Mongols
centuries ago. So our SOD said, ?stuff happens?.
 
The super British playwright David Hare wrote this play. It opened last year
in London. It has an important slant of Britain?s Tony Blair?s involvement
with glancing references to the ?Downing Street Papers? so recently
sidetracked in the US by the Rovegate scandals. It is a shame as those
revelations are of critical importance to knowledge of how the people of the
US and UK were set up for the invasion of Iraq.
 
I was really interested to see what the great Gordon Davidson was going to
present as his final directorial effort for the Center Theatre group at the
Mark Taper Forum. Davidson?s tenure at the Taper has been as long as the
history of HAIR. I have had the opportunity of watching the wonderful work
of this theatrical icon during my period of producing. I have had such
respect for his pushing the envelope.
So rather than a classic Shakespeare, he presented a classic tragedy of
today?s hubris.
 
Thirdly, I had the pleasure of seeing Keith Carradine perform as President
George W. Bush. I wanted to see Keith handle such a difficult role. We were
together in HAIR. I had seen him in many other roles since and have great
respect for his work. Once again he did a superb job, alternating between
the Bush machismo, which impressed so many and the Bush arrogance dismayed
by the most.
 
So what can I tell you about STUFF HAPPENS? I am not a critic and don?t know
quite how to put to words what I saw. It is a great theatre piece, long in
time but short in space. One wanted to hear every word as so much was said.
The design (Ming Cho Lee) was very appropriate to the piece. You felt like
you were witnessing history being made. Great work was done by others
playing Cheney (Dakin Matthews), Rice (Lorraine Toussaint) and Rumsfeld
(John Michael Higgins). Blair (Julian Sands) and Wolfowitz (Kip Gilman) were
portrayed. Powell (Tyrees Allen) was outstanding. Not to forget de Villepin
(Stephen Spinella), and thanks to the Producer Ann E. Wareham.
 
My greatest regret is that this piece is not going to tour over the country.
 
To aid your insight I have scanned and attach the pertinent segments of text
from the playbill. STUFF HAPPENS is a history lesson in and of itself, which
you will find interesting. For those who cannot download the attachment I am
going to ask Nina Dayton, Archivist of HAIR to put it on the site.
http://www.michaelbutler.com/files/STUFFHAPPENS.PDF
 
 

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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Tue Jul 19 07:14:11 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Tue Jul 19 14:41:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] thanks michael
Message-ID: <42DD0AB3.2790B53F@t-online.de>

stuff happens  i remember rumsfeld saying this after all the looting of
museums in irak  what a sic joke the white house is today  love and
peace  vincent

From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Tue Jul 19 17:54:23 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Tue Jul 19 17:56:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Current Productions
References: <200507191900.j6JJ09sC006712@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <005d01c58cc5$9235c310$6401a8c0@Leo>


Wow, thanks for this Nina! My son is currently in pre med at UVM so I gotta 
make that scene for sure!

PEACE,
Leo

From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
 Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions


 Hi folks,

 Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With 
TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

 Nina


 University of Vermont
 The Royall Tyler Theatre
 Burlington, VT
 November 9 - 20, 2005
 802-656-2094 to leave message
 Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
 http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 19 18:32:08 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Tue Jul 19 18:34:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] thanks michael
In-Reply-To: <42DD0AB3.2790B53F@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F5602BA2CD4A33F6CD56DDADD70@phx.gbl>

How wonderful that you got to see it Michael!!!

I heard an excerpt on NPR and it sounded superb.  I love Julien Sands... ;)
Maybe they will change their minds and have a tour someday.
I hope so.

Peace,
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 19 22:20:15 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Tue Jul 19 22:22:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <200507191900.j6JJ09sD006712@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20050720052015.41691.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com>


Wow Nina that's an awesome list. Hair really is
everywhere. 

I had heard about that production in Chicago (Actually
awhile ago some of the cast members were at the
Showtunes Monday thing I go to and my friend Jen was
talking to them (I wasn't there that day) I meant to
go but never did. Glad to see it's still running.
Check out the web site just for the art on the poster.
It's amazing 
http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm

-amy 


		
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From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Tue Jul 19 22:22:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <200507191900.j6JJ09sD006712@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20050720052018.79793.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com>


Wow Nina that's an awesome list. Hair really is
everywhere. 

I had heard about that production in Chicago (Actually
awhile ago some of the cast members were at the
Showtunes Monday thing I go to and my friend Jen was
talking to them (I wasn't there that day) I meant to
go but never did. Glad to see it's still running.
Check out the web site just for the art on the poster.
It's amazing 
http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm

-amy 


		
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From jpzuehlke at prodigy.net  Wed Jul 20 05:27:14 2005
From: jpzuehlke at prodigy.net (John Zuehlke)
Date: Wed Jul 20 05:31:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re- STUFF HAPPENS
Message-ID: <003701c58d26$7b9d30a0$5b0e7543@0019448444>

Re: STUFF HAPPENS

Sounds like a very interesting play, Michael. Sorry that I was unable to attend it, but perhaps it will be remounted at a later date . . . maybe at one of the 99-seat houses.

And thank you for posting sections of the Playbill at (http://www.michaelbutler.com/files/STUFFHAPPENS.PDF). It was most interesting and informative reading, especially the (in)famous quotes! 


The timeline was also of interest, although I felt that the period post 1900 CE was somewhat "spun" by the author's exclusion of quite a few critical facts/events that lead up to our current war against the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thanks, again, for putting it up on the net.



Blessed be with peace, love, freedom, and joy!

John
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From jpzuehlke at prodigy.net  Wed Jul 20 05:48:56 2005
From: jpzuehlke at prodigy.net (John Zuehlke)
Date: Wed Jul 20 05:52:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re- Current Productions
Message-ID: <004401c58d29$67963540$5b0e7543@0019448444>

Re- Current Productions

Wow, Nina, 14 HAiR productions in the United States and 9 more in other countries (plus an additional multi-city tour in Germany)!

But, BOO HOO, only the production in Oregon is located west of the Mississippi! (I am not counting the Louisiana production, which, by my maps, seems to be located simultaneously east, north, and south of different segments of the Mississippi River in the delta.)

Here's hoping for more productions on the west coast!





Blessed be with peace, love, freedom, and Joy!

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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 20 06:19:51 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Wed Jul 20 06:21:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <20050720052015.41691.qmail@web41109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050720131951.8693.qmail@web54205.mail.yahoo.com>

You're right Amy.. Great artwork on the poster and maybe I shouldn't say this but... I was glad to see not alot of writing, like the lack of the Tams plug etc... It makes it look more authentic and I feel estetically pleasing to the eye. I think of poster art as pictures, not words, though there are definetly exceptions to that. I like clean period type art for the aplications at hand. Anyway.. that's my take.. JIM

Amy Kazan <lilacamy11@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wow Nina that's an awesome list. Hair really is
everywhere. 

I had heard about that production in Chicago (Actually
awhile ago some of the cast members were at the
Showtunes Monday thing I go to and my friend Jen was
talking to them (I wasn't there that day) I meant to
go but never did. Glad to see it's still running.
Check out the web site just for the art on the poster.
It's amazing 
http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm

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From rgrady at rcn.com  Wed Jul 20 09:49:30 2005
From: rgrady at rcn.com (Ross Tatum)
Date: Wed Jul 20 09:51:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19
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Hey Bro,
We won't be casting until kids come back in Sept. Only four days to do
it! Yikes! Saw Natalie yesterday -will be meeting with her, set designer
and lighting designer tomorrow in the concert hall to talk about the
set. Everthing's groovy with the exception of some good citizens with
bad intentions trying to stir up trouble for the show. What else is new?
More on this later. Always good to here from ya.
Peace,
Ross



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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:57:22 -0400
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
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Katie & Ross, we haven't heard much from you two lately. How's the HAIR 
journey treating you these days? You two gotta be tripping from
Potsville to 
Moonville via Mainline. Katie, did you get things squared away with your

black brothers & sisters? Ross, how are the youth of America taking to 
rehearsals and the message of HAIR? I'm freaking for some information!

PEACE,
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Wed Jul 20 09:58:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Avenue Queue
Message-ID: <20050720165651.DF4ABA0FD8@lax-gw09.mroute.net>

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OPINION | July 20, 2005
Op-Ed Contributor: Avenue Queue
By RICHARD SCHICKEL
Broadway theatergoers wait in line. But what for?
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From: rgrady at rcn.com (Ross Tatum)
Date: Wed Jul 20 10:19:30 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 20
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Hey Katie,
Hang in there, baby. There ain't no stoppin' you. Speaking of stopping I
just got some disheartening news about anonymous good citizens stirring
up trouble for our show before it even starts. I'm learning that it
comes with the territory. Reminds me of the great mice scare in St. Paul
(the evangelist minister trying to stop people from seeing the show by
setting mice loose in the lobby). Onward Christian soldiers with nothing
better to do. The puritanical atmosphere of this country right now is
absolutely stifling. Bundles of positive energy to you! Go, girl!
XX,
Ross

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   3. NYTimes.com: New York Medicaid Fraud May Reach Into	Billions
      (michael@intrafi.com)
   4. RE: Katie & Ross (Barbara Siomos)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:34:47 -0700
From: "Sherwin" <ace@aceross.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Fwd: Fw: A must send...keep it rolling!
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Pass it forward

 

  _____  

 

Hey..

 

I think the most patriotic thing we could all do is to let this
administration know that we aren't the witless buffoons they take us
for. We
will no longer accept their blatant lies. We will no longer line THEIR
pockets in the name of freedom while they themselves have so obviously
distorted & abused our freedoms as Americans.

 

If we are going to pray, let's pray that sanity will be restored to our
government before any more blood is shed just so that rich men can get
richer....

 

By the way, speaking of rich families ... whatever happened to Osama Bin
Laden?

 

Hope all is well otherwise....

 

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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:00:30 +0000
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
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I have been wanting to update all of you~ but have not had a second to 
breathe....thank you for the nudge...

The roller coaster continues, but all aspects of the ride are a joy.
After sitting down with many different people, I finally got a group of 
three women and three men to come out to rehearsal- the boys seemed
excited, 
and the girls suspicious.  Their choral director from their church, Mr. 
Smith, came with them.  As they were incapable of deciding what to do on

their own, I could only talk to Mr. Smith.  I showed him the score,
talked 
at length about the different aspects of the musical, and my vision...so

they left me with the impression that they would think about it.  Five
days 
later i had not heard from anyone, so I went back to the HillCrest
Center 
(which incidentally is like an island, across this bridge into the 
projects...and at the foot of the bridge there is a sign that says,
"dead 
end"...wow)  So, I went in to find him and he said, "we are not going to
be 
able to do it", "none of you?", I said. "Something else is going on that

weekend"....
and Mrs. Butler, the woman I had talked with for over an hour, who was
so 
excited about the project, couldn't meet my eye as I gave her a hug
goodbye.
That was hard.

So, I get to rehearsal, that very evening, and who should show up, but
three 
beautiful, black men!
(seems awesome, and here is where i have to fight the cynicism:
two of them have not come back to rehearsals and the last one, showed up
to 
the next rehearsal with 62 stiched from his ear to Adam's Apple, as
someone 
had tried to cut his throat with a kitchen knife the night before!)
If any of you want to start a novena, that would be cool :)

But some of the cast and I are going to the Cherokee reservation tonight
to 
see UNTO THESE HILLS, the outdoor drama about the story of the Cherokee.
We 
are going to talk to some of the cast afterwards, and hopefully will 
establish a connection up there.

I'm trying to get the local high schools involved, and hope they will
let us 
come in to talk to the kids about social activism through theatre and
talk 
about the '60s with them.  Fingers crossed.

If only I were three people, then I know I could get it all done and get
the 
sponsorship I need.
I believe in the power of intention- please send some positive, 
organizational vibes my way! :)

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
Peace,
Katie


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NEW YORK REGION | July 18, 2005
New York Medicaid Fraud May Reach Into Billions
By CLIFFORD J. LEVY and MICHAEL LUO
The program, the largest of its kind in the nation, has become a $44.5
billion target for egregious abuse.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:29:06 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
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Katie....

However this turns out for you, you could not have done more.... Hang in
there.

peace,
barbara

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To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross

I have been wanting to update all of you~ but have not had a second to 
breathe....thank you for the nudge...

The roller coaster continues, but all aspects of the ride are a joy.
After sitting down with many different people, I finally got a group of 
three women and three men to come out to rehearsal- the boys seemed
excited, 
and the girls suspicious.  Their choral director from their church, Mr. 
Smith, came with them.  As they were incapable of deciding what to do on

their own, I could only talk to Mr. Smith.  I showed him the score,
talked 
at length about the different aspects of the musical, and my vision...so

they left me with the impression that they would think about it.  Five
days 
later i had not heard from anyone, so I went back to the HillCrest
Center 
(which incidentally is like an island, across this bridge into the 
projects...and at the foot of the bridge there is a sign that says,
"dead 
end"...wow)  So, I went in to find him and he said, "we are not going to
be 
able to do it", "none of you?", I said. "Something else is going on that

weekend"....
and Mrs. Butler, the woman I had talked with for over an hour, who was
so 
excited about the project, couldn't meet my eye as I gave her a hug
goodbye.
That was hard.

So, I get to rehearsal, that very evening, and who should show up, but
three 
beautiful, black men!
(seems awesome, and here is where i have to fight the cynicism:
two of them have not come back to rehearsals and the last one, showed up
to 
the next rehearsal with 62 stiched from his ear to Adam's Apple, as
someone 
had tried to cut his throat with a kitchen knife the night before!)
If any of you want to start a novena, that would be cool :)

But some of the cast and I are going to the Cherokee reservation tonight
to 
see UNTO THESE HILLS, the outdoor drama about the story of the Cherokee.
We 
are going to talk to some of the cast afterwards, and hopefully will 
establish a connection up there.

I'm trying to get the local high schools involved, and hope they will
let us 
come in to talk to the kids about social activism through theatre and
talk 
about the '60s with them.  Fingers crossed.

If only I were three people, then I know I could get it all done and get
the 
sponsorship I need.
I believe in the power of intention- please send some positive, 
organizational vibes my way! :)

I hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
Peace,
Katie


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From rgrady at rcn.com  Wed Jul 20 10:21:01 2005
From: rgrady at rcn.com (Ross Tatum)
Date: Wed Jul 20 10:24:17 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <200507191900.j6JJ09sD006712@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c58d4f$6b04d9e0$1902a8c0@Grady>

Hey Nina,
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to our date with the archives.
XX,
Ross

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:13:34 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <BAY104-F68ECA558B7BE1A4FAA1C4B2D50@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Hi folks,

Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With

TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all
current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at
the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a
current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html

U.S (alphabetical by state)

Illinois

Extended for the 3rd time

Lakeshore Theater
3175 N. Broadway
Chicago, IL 60657
(Broadway and Belmont)
To reserve tickets:
Box Office: 773-472-3492
Online: http://www.tickets.com

Beginning April 27, 2005
Wednesdays and Sundays at 7:00pm
Students: $15
General Admission: $20

For information : (773) 857 0554 or tickets@tonkawatheatretribe.com

http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm


****************

Elmwood Park Community Theatre
Elmwood Park High School auditorium
8201 W. Fullerton Avenue, Elmwood Park, IL. 60707
July 15 - July 24, 2005
Fridays & Saturdays at 7:30 pm, Sundays at 2:00 pm.
Tickets $10 at the door, general admission

Louisiana

Artists Cooperative Theatre
Metairie, LA
August 12 - 14, 2005

Maryland
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD
February 24 - March 4, 2006
http://www.smcm.edu/


Massachusetts
Barrington Stage Company
August 3 - 7 at the Mahaiwe in Great Barrington
Aug. 10 - 14 at the Berkshire Music Hall in Pittsfield
Semi-staged concert version
http://www.barringtonstageco.org/index.html
Box office: 413-528-8888

*********

Danvers Youth Theatre
Danvers, MA
http://www.danversyouththeatre.org/
August 12 - 14, 2005

Michigan

The Barn Theatre
13351 West M-96
Augusta, MI 49012
August 9 - 21, 2005
Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri - 8:30, Saturday - 6:00 and 9:00, Sunday - 5:00 and 
sometimes 8:30
Box Office open 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. 269-731-4121
http://www.barntheatre.com/Default.htm


Missouri

Washington University
Edison Theatre
St. Louis, MO
October 7 - 16, 2005

October 7 and 8, 14 and 15 @ 8 pm
October 9 and 16 @ 2 pm
http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/~pad/


New Jersey

Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
November 10 - 19, 2005
http://www.rider.edu/


New York

Laguardia High School of the Performing Arts (This one is Ross Tatum"s.
Yeah 
Ross!)
December 8 - 17, 2005
100 Amsterdam Avenue
New York City
212-496-0700
http://www.laguardiahs.org/home.html

*******

Wagner College
One Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
April 5 - 23, 2006

Long Lake Camp for the Arts
Augsut 28, 2005
(518) 624-4831


North Carolina

Wings Dance Company (This one is Katie's. Yeah Katie!!)
Asheville, NC
September 9 -10, 2005


Oregon

2nd Street Theater
220 NE Lafayette Ave
Bend, OR 97701
(541) 312-9626
January 19 - February 11, 2006
Auditions - November 14 & 15, 7pm
http://2ndstreettheater.com/


Vermont

University of Vermont
The Royall Tyler Theatre
Burlington, VT
November 9 - 20, 2005
802-656-2094 to leave message
Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


Canada

Toronto

Oakwood Collegiate Institute
January 18 - 21, 2006


Europe

England

London

The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
Previews start September 12, 2005
Opening night September 22, 2005
Running through October 8, 2005
Phone 020 7229 5387
http://www.gatetheatre.co.uk

Germany

Tecklenburg, Freilichtspiele
Freilichtspiele
inGerman
August 15 - September 30, 2005
Previews starting July 30, 2005

*******

Biberach, Jugendkunstschule
Stadthalle
in German
September 24 - October 9, 2005

*******

German Tour

Xanten, Arena Theater GmbH
Touring production
English
Season 2005/06
Premiere : 11/9/05

Zwickau, Theater Plauen-Zwickau
Gro?es Haus
Mix-Version
26.02.05-31.07.06
Premiere : 2/12/05

Hof, St?dtebundtheater
Theater Hof
Mix-Version
30.11.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 10/23/04

Pforzheim, Stadttheater
Gro?es Haus
Mix-Version
15.06.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 6/4/04



Hungary

G?rdonyi G?za Theatre,
Address: H-3300 Eger city, Hatvani, kapu Sq. 4
July 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16 and 17, at 21H (9pm)
In case of rain: July 11 and/or 18

Norway

Kristiansand, Norway
Premieres - February 24, 2005
http://www.kultopia.no/


Spain

Cala Blava, Spain
Center Stage Productions
September 16 - 17, 2005



Australia

Altona

Altona City Theatre Company
Hobson's Bay Council Theatre

July 1 - 24, 2005

(03) 9398-5508,  8310-5550 or tickets@altonacitytheatre.com.au

*******

Aitkenvale

North Queensland Opera & Music Theatre Company

October 11 - 15, 2006

http://www.nqomt.org.au/




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:32:55 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <BAY104-F288EDE41A29888FDC72FE8B2D50@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Wow, Katie. Thanks for the update, and for your commitment. Whatever
happens 
your production is bound to be outstanding with you at the helm. We do
send 
all kinds of positive vibes you way. I can't wait to hear what happens
next. 
We are all with you.
Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:51:06 GMT
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
To: Little Birdie <lbirdie@hotmail.com>, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV10AF8DA116F53EE25D10AEABD40@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain

WoW! That is awesome Nina HAiR is almost everywhere....    :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Little Birdie
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:13:34 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions

Hi folks,

Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With

TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all
current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at
the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a
current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html

U.S (alphabetical by state)

Illinois

Extended for the 3rd time

Lakeshore Theater
3175 N. Broadway
Chicago, IL 60657
(Broadway and Belmont)
To reserve tickets:
Box Office: 773-472-3492
Online: http://www.tickets.com

Beginning April 27, 2005
Wednesdays and Sundays at 7:00pm
Students: $15
General Admission: $20

For information : (773) 857 0554 or tickets@tonkawatheatretribe.com

http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm


****************

Elmwood Park Community Theatre
Elmwood Park High School auditorium
8201 W. Fullerton Avenue, Elmwood Park, IL. 60707
July 15 - July 24, 2005
Fridays & Saturdays at 7:30 pm, Sundays at 2:00 pm.
Tickets $10 at the door, general admission

Louisiana

Artists Cooperative Theatre
Metairie, LA
August 12 - 14, 2005

Maryland
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD
February 24 - March 4, 2006
http://www.smcm.edu/


Massachusetts
Barrington Stage Company
August 3 - 7 at the Mahaiwe in Great Barrington
Aug. 10 - 14 at the Berkshire Music Hall in Pittsfield
Semi-staged concert version
http://www.barringtonstageco.org/index.html
Box office: 413-528-8888

*********

Danvers Youth Theatre
Danvers, MA
http://www.danversyouththeatre.org/
August 12 - 14, 2005

Michigan

The Barn Theatre
13351 West M-96
Augusta, MI 49012
August 9 - 21, 2005
Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri - 8:30, Saturday - 6:00 and 9:00, Sunday - 5:00 and 
sometimes 8:30
Box Office open 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. 269-731-4121
http://www.barntheatre.com/Default.htm


Missouri

Washington University
Edison Theatre
St. Louis, MO
October 7 - 16, 2005

October 7 and 8, 14 and 15 @ 8 pm
October 9 and 16 @ 2 pm
http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/~pad/


New Jersey

Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
November 10 - 19, 2005
http://www.rider.edu/


New York

Laguardia High School of the Performing Arts (This one is Ross Tatum"s.
Yeah 
Ross!)
December 8 - 17, 2005
100 Amsterdam Avenue
New York City
212-496-0700
http://www.laguardiahs.org/home.html

*******

Wagner College
One Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
April 5 - 23, 2006

Long Lake Camp for the Arts
Augsut 28, 2005
(518) 624-4831


North Carolina

Wings Dance Company (This one is Katie's. Yeah Katie!!)
Asheville, NC
September 9 -10, 2005


Oregon

2nd Street Theater
220 NE Lafayette Ave
Bend, OR 97701
(541) 312-9626
January 19 - February 11, 2006
Auditions - November 14 & 15, 7pm
http://2ndstreettheater.com/


Vermont

University of Vermont
The Royall Tyler Theatre
Burlington, VT
November 9 - 20, 2005
802-656-2094 to leave message
Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


Canada

Toronto

Oakwood Collegiate Institute
January 18 - 21, 2006


Europe

England

London

The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
Previews start September 12, 2005
Opening night September 22, 2005
Running through October 8, 2005
Phone 020 7229 5387
http://www.gatetheatre.co.uk

Germany

Tecklenburg, Freilichtspiele
Freilichtspiele
inGerman
August 15 - September 30, 2005
Previews starting July 30, 2005

*******

Biberach, Jugendkunstschule
Stadthalle
in German
September 24 - October 9, 2005

*******

German Tour

Xanten, Arena Theater GmbH
Touring production
English
Season 2005/06
Premiere : 11/9/05

Zwickau, Theater Plauen-Zwickau
Groes Haus
Mix-Version
26.02.05-31.07.06
Premiere : 2/12/05

Hof, Stdtebundtheater
Theater Hof
Mix-Version
30.11.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 10/23/04

Pforzheim, Stadttheater
Groes Haus
Mix-Version
15.06.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 6/4/04



Hungary

Grdonyi Gza Theatre,
Address: H-3300 Eger city, Hatvani, kapu Sq. 4
July 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16 and 17, at 21H (9pm)
In case of rain: July 11 and/or 18

Norway

Kristiansand, Norway
Premieres - February 24, 2005
http://www.kultopia.no/


Spain

Cala Blava, Spain
Center Stage Productions
September 16 - 17, 2005



Australia

Altona

Altona City Theatre Company
Hobson's Bay Council Theatre

July 1 - 24, 2005

(03) 9398-5508,  8310-5550 or tickets@altonacitytheatre.com.au

*******

Aitkenvale

North Queensland Opera & Music Theatre Company

October 11 - 15, 2006

http://www.nqomt.org.au/


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Wed Jul 20 11:00:46 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Wed Jul 20 11:03:17 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] American Taliban
Message-ID: <BF03DF5E.222B8%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Ross,
Do keep us updated on what opposition you are running into. HAIR has quite a
history of attempts to stifle its freedom of expression.
Michael
--Don't persuade people to accept an argument
Get people to trust their own judgment.


From fotoblue at flash.net  Wed Jul 20 11:21:31 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Wed Jul 20 11:23:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 20
Message-ID: <380-220057320182131204@M2W028.mail2web.com>

I agree with barbara...
 just read the report and can hardly believe it, it's downright scary
what's going on

Katie, you probably meant to say NOT all aspects of the ride are a joy!!!

 Dagmar


Katie....

However this turns out for you, you could not have done more.... Hang in
there.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:00:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross

I have been wanting to update all of you~ but have not had a second to 
breathe....thank you for the nudge...

The roller coaster continues, but all aspects of the ride are a joy.
After sitting down with many different people, I finally got a group of 
three women and three men to come out to rehearsal- the boys seemed
excited, and the girls suspicious.  
<snip>

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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Wed Jul 20 05:50:19 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Wed Jul 20 12:45:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair is everywhere
Message-ID: <42DE488B.18C1E88A@t-online.de>

HAIR is every where  and where there is HAIR there is hope  love you all
vincent

From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 20 13:35:56 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Wed Jul 20 13:37:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re- Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <004401c58d29$67963540$5b0e7543@0019448444>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F2757829E03E59DC4EE9428B2D70@phx.gbl>

Hi John,

There often are more productions out your way, many in California. It was 
just the luck of the draw that I chose to post them now, when there are few 
out west. It's not a regular drought. I will try and post these lists here 
more often, but you can always check the current productions listings at the 
web site at:

http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/CurrentProductions.html

Peace,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html



>From: "John Zuehlke" <jpzuehlke@prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: <Mb-HAiR@islandlists.com>
>Subject: [Mb-hair] Re- Current Productions
>Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:48:56 -0700
>
>Re- Current Productions
>
>Wow, Nina, 14 HAiR productions in the United States and 9 more in other 
>countries (plus an additional multi-city tour in Germany)!
>
>But, BOO HOO, only the production in Oregon is located west of the 
>Mississippi! (I am not counting the Louisiana production, which, by my 
>maps, seems to be located simultaneously east, north, and south of 
>different segments of the Mississippi River in the delta.)
>
>Here's hoping for more productions on the west coast!
>
>
>
>
>
>Blessed be with peace, love, freedom, and Joy!
>
>John
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 20 13:59:05 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Wed Jul 20 14:00:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <000a01c58d4f$6b04d9e0$1902a8c0@Grady>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3A673CF5229125A180C2AB2D70@phx.gbl>

Ross wrote:
>Looking forward to our date with the archives.

Very much looking forward to having you here as well.

Do tell us about your "good citizens". Who is objecting, and why?

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From dauber at banana-and-louie.org  Wed Jul 20 19:33:59 2005
From: dauber at banana-and-louie.org (Dauber)
Date: Wed Jul 20 18:45:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F2757829E03E59DC4EE9428B2D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <33d2840cba1.926e662@outgoing.verizon.net>

Wow....I'll be in Chicago in a few weeks....considering going to that
production!

And Hair at Ryder U in November!! That's just a few miles from where I work!
Looks like I need to take a rare post-work field trip!

Thanks, Nina!

--
dauber@banana-and-louie.org
 * ICQ: 28677921 * YIM: dau_ber * AIM: ddaauubbeerr
From Gluckstag at aol.com  Thu Jul 21 09:29:29 2005
From: Gluckstag at aol.com (Gluckstag@aol.com)
Date: Thu Jul 21 11:21:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Good idea from Annette Caleel
Message-ID: <200507211821.j6LILUdI012649@dune.islandtechnologies.net>



Good morning-this is a gem of an idea-I did it this morning.? 


>
>
>
> This was forwarded to me: I think it's a really good
> idea, especially
> given last week's events . The Ambulance Services
> have launched a
> national "In case of Emergency ( ICE )" campaign
> with the support of
> Falklands war hero Simon Weston and in association
> with Vodafone's
> annual life savers award.
>
> The idea is that you store the word "ICE" in your
> mobile phone address
> book, and against it enter the number of the person
> you would want to be
> contacted "In Case of Emergency". In an emergency
> situation ambulance
> and hospital staff will then be able to quickly find
> out who your next
> of kin are and be able to contact them.
>
> It's so simple - everyone can do it. Please do.
> Please will you also
> forward this to everybody in your address book, it
> won't take too many
> forwards' before everybody will know about this. It
> really could save
> your life.
>
>
>
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>
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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Thu Jul 21 12:31:33 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Thu Jul 21 12:33:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
Message-ID: <0841219C5A3D41CFA8D48DB3032833F4@njdmava.state.nj.us>

Yo, Sean!  Yeah, I wanted to make sure you noticed that Ryder U production coming up.  Figured since it's practically "right around the corner" from where you work, that we'd need to make sure we went there -- either together or separately and we'll say "Hi" at intermission.  Too close to miss, eh?  Hi to Lisa.  And enjoy the trip to Chicago (hope you make that HAIR production, too!).

Tioga OG Joe

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Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:33:59 -0500
From: Dauber <dauber@banana-and-louie.org>

Wow....I'll be in Chicago in a few weeks....considering going to that
production!

And Hair at Ryder U in November!! That's just a few miles from where I work!
Looks like I need to take a rare post-work field trip!

Thanks, Nina!


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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Thu Jul 21 13:37:10 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Thu Jul 21 13:39:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War
Message-ID: <5EF0C58EEF7E4614BFBB8BC024CAEEBA@njdmava.state.nj.us>

The following is reprinted to the MB-HAIR List with permission of the author, Vietnam veteran poet and peace activist Jan Barry (clarifying notes in brackets are mine).

Peace,

Tioga Joe

==============================================================

12-Jul-2005 Practical Poetry

Another author recently asked for some comments on effects of war resistance poetry. Of course, I can't think of a single war that was stopped by a volley of antiwar poems. Yet poetry still has very practical uses, even in the midst of war.
 
I started writing poetry in the late 1960s, after I got out of the army and after frustrating attempts at writing short stories, a novel and essays that didn't adequately capture the bizarre core of the war in Vietnam. But poetry did not play much of a role in my life until I got involved in putting together an anthology of poetry by Vietnam vets. 

Larry Rottmann, who also served in the army in Vietnam, came to New York in 1971 with a bulging manuscript of various writings by Vietnam vets and asked if I could help find a publisher. After rejection by numerous book editors, I suggested we publish these works ourselves. Larry and I and [Vietnam veteran] Basil Paquet founded 1st Casualty Press and edited and published "Winning Hearts & Minds: War Poems by Vietnam Veterans".  A short story collection, "Free Fire Zones", was also published. [Vietnam Veteran] Bill [W.D.] Ehrhart enthusiastically joined the poetry project. He and I edited and published a sequel, "Demilitarized Zones".
 
The aim of "Winning Hearts & Minds" was stated in a note to the reader in the back of the book, in which we urged people to make use of these poems in all sorts of ways. Many people did. And I discovered in doing readings from the book that all sorts of people really listened to poetry that recreated soldiers' inner turmoil in the midst of war. 

As a founder of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, I was involved in numerous peace demonstrations in which famous folk singers and poets played leading roles. I didn't feel I had any creative talent, so I stuck to talking about why veterans were protesting the war. But I think some of what Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Daniel Berrigan, Thich Nhat Hanh and others were singing and saying in their poetry rubbed off on me. When we published "Winning Hearts & Minds" [WHAM], many reviewers said it was incredible that soldiers could write such compelling poetry. Poems from that collection were reprinted in newspapers across the country. A staged version that my wife created was featured in the NY Daily News. We read poems on radio programs. The book was reviewed in major publications and in a Pentagon publication, which urged its high-ranking readers to take a serious look at what these dissident vets had to say about the war.
 
WHAM and its sequel, and a third anthology I edited, "Peace Is Our Profession", helped several vets (myself included) launch literary careers that mixed a dissident attitude and thoroughly prepared craftsmanship. I collected every anthology I could find of dissident
poetry, looking for ideas and inspiration for doing more such work that combined poetry and activism. I found my writing voice in working on "Winning Hearts & Minds". One reviewer noted that my poems were jotted like journalism. I took that as a compliment and became a journalist. 

While juggling newspaper work, I've tried to write poetry that conveys in vivid detail the news of what it's like to be a Vietnam veteran engaged in trying to help make a more peaceful world. That included becoming an organizer of a citizen exchange outreach program to the Soviet Union, writing poems about that experience and reading some of those poems to Russians and Americans. I believe that sort of creative activism played a
part in helping to end the Cold War. 

More recently, my habit of jotting down lines and ideas for poems saved my life after my wife died. I couldn't sleep, so I got up and wrote poems and created a collection, "Earth Songs", which includes a wide selection of my poetry on Vietnam and post-war experiences. Those experiences include hidden impacts of the war that intrude in all sorts of unexpected ways. Writing poetry, I found, has been a very practical way of coping
with post-traumatic stress, as well as protesting the heart-and-mindlessness of war. 

===============================================
Jan Barry (http://www.janbarry.net/), of Montclair, New Jersey, and graduate of Ramapo College of New Jersey, is a poet, author of "A Citizen's Guide to Grassroots Campaigns" and the poetry collection, "Earth Songs", and a news reporter for "The Record" of Bergen County, New Jersey.  Appointed to the U.S. Military Academy after a stint in Vietnam as a radio specialist with an Army aviation unit, he resigned from West Point to become a writer and peace activist.  A founder of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW - http://www.vvaw.org/), his antiwar verses first appeared in "Winning Hearts and Minds: War Poems by Vietnam Veterans", published by 1st Casualty Press, founded by Jan Barry and fellow veterans Larry Rottmann and Basil T. Paquet.  With W.D. Ehrhart, he compiled a sequel, "Demilitarized Zones: Veterans After Vietnam".  He also edited "Peace Is Our Profession: Poems and Passages of War Protest" and contributed to many other anthologies.  Barry served as a New Jersey coordinator for US-USSR Bridges for Peace and director of the Essex County (NJ) Office on Peace, and today he serves on the editorial staff of Veterans Against the Iraqi War (www.vaiw.org).



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From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Thu Jul 21 20:08:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
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Hiya~

Will anyone be in Washington, DC on July 29th?

I'll be there.  Drinks at Sequoia!!!
:)

PS- i need a drink. The two black actors, who, to my face said they were 
committed and excited, have not shown up to the last three rehearsals...seem 
to have disappeared.

BUT- the show at Cherokee was great (even though almost all the parts were 
played by white actors)~ it was really cool to talk to some of the cast 
afterwards!

ultimately, life is good. LOVE!

Peace,
Katie

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Jul 22 09:37:03 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Jul 22 09:39:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
Message-ID: <BF066EBF.223FF%michael@michaelbutler.com>

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
DEAR JULIE
HAVE A SUPER DAY
AND A GREAT YEAR
MICHAEL

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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Fri Jul 22 09:51:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Grand Theft Adult
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 09:55:57 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Jul 22 09:58:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
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yes happy birthday JULIE from me and all the folks of STAR CROSSED LOVERS

Richard Haase/( Shakespeare lol )
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To: "Julie Arenal" <BORBOS@aol.com>
Cc: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY


> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
> DEAR JULIE
> HAVE A SUPER DAY
> AND A GREAT YEAR
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Jul 22 10:14:01 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Jul 22 10:15:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War
In-Reply-To: <5EF0C58EEF7E4614BFBB8BC024CAEEBA@njdmava.state.nj.us>
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Thanks,
Sent on to Civic
Michael

> The following is reprinted to the MB-HAIR List with permission of the author,
> Vietnam veteran poet and peace activist Jan Barry (clarifying notes in
> brackets are mine).
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Tioga Joe
> 
> ==============================================================

From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Fri Jul 22 10:01:02 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Fri Jul 22 10:25:15 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War 
Message-ID: <86E758C7CCA64C85B22E08BAB482AC86@njdmava.state.nj.us>

From: Sibley Smith <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Sent: Thu Jul 21 13:37:10 PDT 2005 

The following is reprinted to the MB-HAIR List with permission of the author, Vietnam veteran poet and peace activist Jan Barry [...]:

12-Jul-2005 Practical Poetry

Another author recently asked for some comments on effects of war resistance poetry. Of course, I can't think of a single war that was stopped by a volley of antiwar poems. [ ... ].

==============================================================

Hey HAIR Heads,

In reply to Jan Barry's comment above, I sent him the following (he flattered me by asking me "Hey Sib, I like your reply! May I post it on my website's discussion board?"  --Sure enough, it's there! http://www.janbarry.net/disc.htm):

Jan,

You said 
Poetry
Never stopped a war.

I mentioned
My interest
In HAIR.

["The American Tribal Love-Rock Musical" by Rado, Ragni, MacDermot, O'Horgan, and Butler]

Back in the day,
I wore my hair 
Long.  
 
[see pic on this page: http://members.tripod.com/~SibleyJ2/links-1.html]

To be sure,
For many
'Twas mere fashion.

But for me
'Twas more--
Much, much more.

I wore my "colors"--
I let my
"Freak flag fly."

Hair Zen, of then, to me,
Was best expressed 
By another poet:

"We let our hair grow,
"We let our feelings show,
"We let our poets know
"We were listening."

--Jesse Colin Young ("American Dream Suite")
[http://www.jessecolinyoung.com/]

I dare say,
Poetry did
Once stop a war.

We were listening.

--Your Sib


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From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Fri Jul 22 10:37:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
In-Reply-To: <BF066EBF.223FF%michael@michaelbutler.com>
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Ditto...Happy Birthday Julie!
 
Peace and Blessings ~ Jonathon

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DEAR JULIE
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 11:12:41 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Fri Jul 22 11:14:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
References: <BF066EBF.223FF%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <002301c58ee8$f3bbb890$8a03ca44@CowBox>

Hey Julie

I hope you are well & all is smooth, happy birthday!   See you at the 
reunion in September.  :)

Love forever
Robin




----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Julie Arenal" <BORBOS@aol.com>
Cc: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY


> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
> DEAR JULIE
> HAVE A SUPER DAY
> AND A GREAT YEAR
> MICHAEL
>
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From cararobindesign at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 22 12:18:33 2005
From: cararobindesign at hotmail.com (Cara Robin)
Date: Fri Jul 22 12:24:42 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
In-Reply-To: <BF066EBF.223FF%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <BAY103-F25154543B15DFC102C7EBDB4C90@phx.gbl>

Hi Julie - it's been ages!  HAPPY BIRTHDAY - hope to see you in NY on the 
10th of September.
Cara

<br><br><br>From: Michael Butler 
&lt;michael@michaelbutler.com&gt;<br>Reply-To: 
mb-hair@islandlists.com<br>To: Julie Arenal &lt;BORBOS@aol.com&gt;<br>CC: 
HAIR List &lt;mb-hair@islandlists.com&gt;<br>Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG 
DAY<br>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:37:03 -0700<br><br>HAPPY 
BIRTHDAY!!!<br>DEAR JULIE<br>HAVE A SUPER DAY<br>AND A GREAT 
YEAR<br>MICHAEL<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mb-hair 
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Fri Jul 22 07:26:07 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Jul 22 14:20:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] happy birthday
Message-ID: <42E101FE.B5201BF4@t-online.de>

happy birthday julie baby happy birthday to you  i promise you i am
learning to dance i can feel it coming on  love you and thanks for your
beauty and your patience  i am very big in symi the belly dancers say
lots of promise  have a great day we all love you in LONDON    vincent
edwards

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Jul 22 14:37:00 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Jul 22 14:39:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] happy birthday
References: <42E101FE.B5201BF4@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <01f601c58f05$7e60d1d0$6e436c42@hotprojects>

i just realized julie and i are born one day apart
thats flippy
astrologically
eg my birthday tomorrow july 23
lol
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:26 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] happy birthday


> happy birthday julie baby happy birthday to you  i promise you i am
> learning to dance i can feel it coming on  love you and thanks for your
> beauty and your patience  i am very big in symi the belly dancers say
> lots of promise  have a great day we all love you in LONDON    vincent
> edwards
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Fri Jul 22 07:52:09 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Jul 22 14:46:47 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
Message-ID: <42E10818.A1BB0E22@t-online.de>

any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summers who played
in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his fridaynight soul show
with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
uk   love you all vincent

From VinUschi at t-online.de  Fri Jul 22 08:05:02 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Jul 22 14:59:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: happy birthday richard]
Message-ID: <42E10B1E.7D301D79@t-online.de>

all the best mate
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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 22 15:54:32 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Fri Jul 22 15:56:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG DAY
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Hey having just rejoined the tribe.. I am not sure who everyone is.. BUt that doesn't matter .. we are all one.. Happy Birthday Julie and to you tommorrow Vincent. Peace Babys! JIM
 


Cara Robin <cararobindesign@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Julie - it's been ages! HAPPY BIRTHDAY - hope to see you in NY on the 
10th of September.
Cara




From: Michael Butler 
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Reply-To: 
mb-hair@islandlists.com
To: Julie Arenal <BORBOS@aol.com>
CC: 
HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] BIG 
DAY
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:37:03 -0700

HAPPY 
BIRTHDAY!!!
DEAR JULIE
HAVE A SUPER DAY
AND A GREAT 
YEAR
MICHAEL

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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 22 17:08:40 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Fri Jul 22 17:10:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
In-Reply-To: <42E10818.A1BB0E22@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F25A4CA24D89E381FC77854B2C80@phx.gbl>

This si what I have for Donna: North145av@aol.com

I have no idea if it is current onformation for her or not, as it is fairly 
old, but it's worth a try!

Love and hugs,
Nina



>From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
>Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
>Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:52:09 +0800
>
>any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summers who played
>in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
>dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his fridaynight soul show
>with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
>uk   love you all vincent
>
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Jul 22 17:12:26 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Jul 22 17:14:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F25A4CA24D89E381FC77854B2C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BF06D97A.22469%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Talked with Gina Harding today and she will try to get more info on Donna
who wants to come.
XO M

> This si what I have for Donna: North145av@aol.com
> 
> I have no idea if it is current onformation for her or not, as it is fairly
> old, but it's worth a try!
> 
> Love and hugs,
> Nina
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
>> Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
>> To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
>> Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:52:09 +0800
>> 
>> any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summers who played
>> in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
>> dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his fridaynight soul show
>> with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
>> uk   love you all vincent
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul 22 21:29:23 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul 22 21:31:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1237E86FBB9A68A5277FCEABC80@phx.gbl>

Nice HAiR Sib.... Nice twinkle in your eye as well....  :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Sibley Smith
Sent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:01:02 -0700
To: Butler, Michael - HAIR List
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War

From: Sibley Smith <sjsmith@njvvmf.org>
Sent: Thu Jul 21 13:37:10 PDT 2005 

The following is reprinted to the MB-HAIR List with permission of the author, Vietnam veteran poet and peace activist Jan Barry [...]:

12-Jul-2005 Practical Poetry

Another author recently asked for some comments on effects of war resistance poetry. Of course, I can't think of a single war that was stopped by a volley of antiwar poems. [ ... ].

==============================================================

Hey HAIR Heads,

In reply to Jan Barry's comment above, I sent him the following (he flattered me by asking me "Hey Sib, I like your reply! May I post it on my website's discussion board?"  --Sure enough, it's there! http://www.janbarrynet/disc.htm):

Jan,

You said 
Poetry
Never stopped a war.

I mentioned
My interest
In HAIR.

["The American Tribal Love-Rock Musical" by Rado, Ragni, MacDermot, O'Horgan, and Butler]

Back in the day,
I wore my hair 
Long.  
 
[see pic on this page: http://members.tripod.com/~SibleyJ2/links-1.html]

To be sure,
For many
'Twas mere fashion.

But for me
'Twas more--
Much, much more.

I wore my "colors"--
I let my
"Freak flag fly."

Hair Zen, of then, to me,
Was best expressed 
By another poet:

"We let our hair grow,
"We let our feelings show,
"We let our poets know
"We were listening."

--Jesse Colin Young ("American Dream Suite")
[http://www.jessecolinyoung.com/]

I dare say,
Poetry did
Once stop a war.

We were listening.

--Your Sib


From fotoblue at flash.net  Fri Jul 22 23:30:51 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Fri Jul 22 23:32:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Radio interview with Donna!!
Message-ID: <380-2200576236305159@M2W034.mail2web.com>


Hello Michael, Nina and Vincent, 

 I just sent this message to Donna:

Servus Donna, hi Bruce!
 How are you two?

I guess the tour is still going, I hope you are having a great time!!
 It's beastly HOT here in AZ, we're breaking all records 
(not the vinyl kind, those are melting!!) 40 days above 100F. groan!!
Rain promised, but not in sight yet. The Monsoon is late this summer.

But to the important part:
do you want to do a radio interview in the UK?

 read below.
 get in touch with Vincent, if you  like

Love and Hugs,
 Dagmar


Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:12:26 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] donna summer


Talked with Gina Harding today and she will try to get more info on Donna
who wants to come.
XO M

> This iswhat I have for Donna: North145av@aol.com
> 
> I have no idea if it is current onformation for her or not, as it is
fairly
> old, but it's worth a try!
> 
> Love and hugs,
> Nina
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
>> Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
>> To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
>> Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:52:09 +0800
>> 
>> any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summer who played
>> in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
>> dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his fridaynight soul show
>> with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
>> uk   love you all vincent


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 23 09:54:55 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 23 09:57:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] YOUR DAY
Message-ID: <BF07C46F.2249C%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Richard,
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Have a super day
And a great year
Peace and Love
Michael
-- Carpe Diem


From fotoblue at flash.net  Sat Jul 23 11:02:49 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sat Jul 23 11:04:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair]  Donna Summer info
Message-ID: <380-22005762318249437@M2W086.mail2web.com>

Hello Nina, Vincent, Michael and assorted hairy friends,

Donna is still on her summer tour, tomorrow in Dallas, TX, at the Smirnoff
Music 
center - anybody near that??

and on the road until Sept 3, 4, finishing up  in Las Vegas, at the Hilton.

 check this out:

http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/donnasummer_tickets.htm

Nina,  the address you have (north145av@aol.com) belongs to  Josiah Howard, 
who wrote the book
about her, "DS: her Life and Music" (my cover!!)

Love and HOT weekend hugs to you all (we're still above 100F...)

 Dagmar



Original Message:
-----------------
From: fotoblue@flash.net fotoblue@flash.net
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:30:51 -0400
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Radio interview with Donna!!



Hello Michael, Nina and Vincent, 

 I just sent this message to Donna:

Servus Donna, hi Bruce!
 How are you two?

I guess the tour is still going, I hope you are having a great time!!
 It's beastly HOT here in AZ, we're breaking all records 
(not the vinyl kind, those are melting!!) 40 days above 100F. groan!!
Rain promised, but not in sight yet. The Monsoon is late this summer.

But to the important part:
do you want to do a radio interview in the UK?

 read below.
 get in touch with Vincent, if you  like

Love and Hugs,
 Dagmar


Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:12:26 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] donna summer


Talked with Gina Harding today and she will try to get more info on Donna
who wants to come.
XO M

> This iswhat I have for Donna: North145av@aol.com
> 
> I have no idea if it is current onformation for her or not, as it is
fairly
> old, but it's worth a try!
> 
> Love and hugs,
> Nina
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
>> Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
>> To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
>> Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:52:09 +0800
>> 
>> any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summer who played
>> in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
>> dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his friday night soul show
>> with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
>> uk   love you all vincent



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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul 23 11:05:21 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Jul 23 11:07:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair]  Donna Summer info
References: <380-22005762318249437@M2W086.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c58fb1$17882970$6e436c42@hotprojects>

oh thats great dagmar i just kissed up to joseph as a project element lol
lol lol
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <fotoblue@flash.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Donna Summer info


> Hello Nina, Vincent, Michael and assorted hairy friends,
>
> Donna is still on her summer tour, tomorrow in Dallas, TX, at the Smirnoff
> Music
> center - anybody near that??
>
> and on the road until Sept 3, 4, finishing up  in Las Vegas, at the
Hilton.
>
>  check this out:
>
> http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/donnasummer_tickets.htm
>
> Nina,  the address you have (north145av@aol.com) belongs to  Josiah
Howard,
> who wrote the book
> about her, "DS: her Life and Music" (my cover!!)
>
> Love and HOT weekend hugs to you all (we're still above 100F...)
>
>  Dagmar
>
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: fotoblue@flash.net fotoblue@flash.net
> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:30:51 -0400
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Radio interview with Donna!!
>
>
>
> Hello Michael, Nina and Vincent,
>
>  I just sent this message to Donna:
>
> Servus Donna, hi Bruce!
>  How are you two?
>
> I guess the tour is still going, I hope you are having a great time!!
>  It's beastly HOT here in AZ, we're breaking all records
> (not the vinyl kind, those are melting!!) 40 days above 100F. groan!!
> Rain promised, but not in sight yet. The Monsoon is late this summer.
>
> But to the important part:
> do you want to do a radio interview in the UK?
>
>  read below.
>  get in touch with Vincent, if you  like
>
> Love and Hugs,
>  Dagmar
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:12:26 -0700
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] donna summer
>
>
> Talked with Gina Harding today and she will try to get more info on Donna
> who wants to come.
> XO M
>
> > This iswhat I have for Donna: North145av@aol.com
> >
> > I have no idea if it is current onformation for her or not, as it is
> fairly
> > old, but it's worth a try!
> >
> > Love and hugs,
> > Nina
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
> >> Reply-To: VinUschi@t-online.de, mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >> To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
> >> Subject: [Mb-hair] donna summer
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:52:09 +0800
> >>
> >> any tribe brothers or sisters got a contact for donna summer who played
> >> in the german tribe i have just had  a request from bbc radio newcastle
> >> dj paul wappit he would like to feature her on his friday night soul
show
> >> with a phone interview its a great  radio show they love donna in the
> >> uk   love you all vincent
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> mail2web - Check your email from the web at
> http://mail2web.com/ .
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sat Jul 23 11:08:51 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Jul 23 11:10:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Sony BMG Called Close to Settlement With
	Spitzer
Message-ID: <20050723180851.09A483AE402@lax-gw06.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

BUSINESS / MEDIA & ADVERTISING | July 23, 2005
Sony BMG Called Close to Settlement With Spitzer
By JEFF LEEDS
The New York attorney general is close to a settlement with Sony BMG Music Entertainment over its use of improper tactics to influence radio programmers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/23/business/media/23music.html?ex=1122782400&en=a11790365606c4ee&ei=5070&emc=eta1



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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul 23 12:57:54 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul 23 12:59:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV55C3C4076692C079D9B61ABC80@phx.gbl>

Hey Ross,

Those type of people (good citizens with bad intentions)  IF  you can get it past them are the type to be lovers of HAiR in the end if they can only let their HAiR down... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Tatum
Sent: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:49:30 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19

Hey Bro,
We won't be casting until kids come back in Sept. Only four days to do
it! Yikes! Saw Natalie yesterday -will be meeting with her, set designer
and lighting designer tomorrow in the concert hall to talk about the
set. Everthing's groovy with the exception of some good citizens with
bad intentions trying to stir up trouble for the show. What else is new?
More on this later. Always good to here from ya.
Peace,
Ross



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of
mb-hair-request@islandlists.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 3:00 PM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19

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Today's Topics:

   1. Katie & Ross (Leo)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:57:22 -0400
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Katie & Ross
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <003401c58a51$58662380$6401a8c0@Leo>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Katie & Ross, we haven't heard much from you two lately. How's the HAIR 
journey treating you these days? You two gotta be tripping from
Potsville to 
Moonville via Mainline. Katie, did you get things squared away with your

black brothers & sisters? Ross, how are the youth of America taking to 
rehearsals and the message of HAIR? I'm freaking for some information!

PEACE,
Leo 




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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Sat Jul 23 14:24:04 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sat Jul 23 14:25:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
References: <200507231900.j6NJ0AGg018467@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c58fcc$da3194f0$6401a8c0@Leo>

Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy 
unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope your 
birthdays were the grooviest yet!

PEACE,
Leo 


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul 23 14:45:11 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Jul 23 14:47:15 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
References: <200507231900.j6NJ0AGg018467@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
	<001d01c58fcc$da3194f0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <00a801c58fcf$cdaebbb0$6e436c42@hotprojects>

thank you leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays


> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy
> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope
your
> birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>
> PEACE,
> Leo
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Sat Jul 23 15:08:08 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Sat Jul 23 15:10:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Happy Birthday to you
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV10FA39F1FA83C5D362F065ABC80@phx.gbl>

Happy Birthday as Leo said to all who are having one.....

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: richard haase
Sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:45:11 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays

thank you leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays


> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy
> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope
your
> birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>
> PEACE,
> Leo
>
>
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From mark.petracca at verizon.net  Sat Jul 23 10:59:14 2005
From: mark.petracca at verizon.net (mark.petracca@verizon.net)
Date: Sat Jul 23 15:56:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Do you read your emai? I do and value those of you
 receiving this one
In-Reply-To: <12a.61cd51ed.3013dbb9@aol.com>
References: <12a.61cd51ed.3013dbb9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <200507232256.j6NMuAxK018873@dune.islandtechnologies.net>


On Jul 23, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Bepflak@aol.com wrote:

> Dear ALL: ?You may have seen this before, but with the recent bombings 
> in London, and today the Sinai, it seems appropriate to send this 
> again at this time. ?
>
> To the special people in my life, I am sending this to you to see how 
> many of you actually read your email. Is anyone really out there? Your 
> response will be interesting! Pay close attention to what you read. 
> After you have finished reading it, you will know the reason it was 
> sent to
> you!
>
> Here it goes:
>
> People come into your life for a Reason, a Season, or a Lifetime. When 
> you know which one it is for a person, you will know what to do for 
> that person.
>
> When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a 
> need you have expressed.
>
> They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with 
> guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally, or 
> spiritually.
>
> They may seem like a Godsend, and they are! They are there for the 
> reason you need them to be..
>
> Then, without any wrong doing on your part, or at an inconvenient 
> time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship 
> to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes 
> they act up and force you to take a stand.
>
> What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire 
> fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been 
> answered, and now it is time to move on.
>
> Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has 
> come to share, grow, or learn. They bring you an experience of peace, 
> or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done.
>
> They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it! It is 
> real! But, only for a season.
>
> LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons: things you must 
> build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is 
> to accept the lesson, love the person, and put what you have learned 
> to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It is said 
> that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.
>
> Thank you for being a part of my life!
>
> Send it to every friend that you have online, including the person who 
> sent it to you.
>
> 0 Replies - you may need to work on your "people skills"
> 2 Replies - you are nice but probably need to be more outgoing
> 4 Replies - you have picked your friends well
> 6 Replies - you are down right popular
> 8 Replies or More - you are totally awesome (and that's probably why 
> you're on MY list).
>
Mark Petracca
PetRock, Inc.
4 West 83rd Street
NYC 10024
212-877-7330

?In our every deliberation, we must consider the
impact of our decisions on the next seven generations.??
                                        Iroquois Confederacy maxim

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From sherwin at aceross.com  Sat Jul 23 16:50:13 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Sat Jul 23 16:52:27 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Do you read your emai? I do and value those of you
	receiving this one
In-Reply-To: <200507232256.j6NMuAxK018873@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
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Thank You Mark.

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of
mark.petracca@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 10:59 AM
To: Ben Payne
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Do you read your emai? I do and value those of you
receiving this one

 


On Jul 23, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Bepflak@aol.com wrote:

Dear ALL:  You may have seen this before, but with the recent bombings in
London, and today the Sinai, it seems appropriate to send this again at this
time.   



To the special people in my life, I am sending this to you to see how many
of you actually read your email. Is anyone really out there? Your response
will be interesting! Pay close attention to what you read. After you have
finished reading it, you will know the reason it was sent to 


you! 



Here it goes: 



People come into your life for a Reason, a Season, or a Lifetime. When you
know which one it is for a person, you will know what to do for that person.




When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you
have expressed.



They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with
guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally, or spiritually.



They may seem like a Godsend, and they are! They are there for the reason
you need them to be.. 



Then, without any wrong doing on your part, or at an inconvenient time, this
person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end.
Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes they act up and
force you to take a stand. 



What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled,
their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered, and now it is
time to move on. 



Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has come to
share, grow, or learn. They bring you an experience of peace, or make you
laugh. They may teach you something you have never done. 



They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it! It is real!
But, only for a season. 



LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons: things you must build
upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job is to accept
the lesson, love the person, and put what you have learned to use in all
other relationships and areas of your life. It is said that love is blind
but friendship is clairvoyant.



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From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 23 18:59:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] EMINENT DOMAIN
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Michael Butler's Blog

http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html


From fotoblue at flash.net  Sun Jul 24 07:06:16 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sun Jul 24 07:08:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
Message-ID: <380-22005702414616598@M2W042.mail2web.com>

HI KATIE, 
 "IT'S ONLY A PLAY"... AND YET, I FIND IT STRANGE THAT THEY WOULD NOT 
SHOW UP AGAIN
did anything happen that may have triggered that?

 I'm glad you are keeping your spirits up

 Dagmar



Original Message:
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From: Katie Kasben katiekasben@hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:06:04 +0000
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions


Hiya~

Will anyone be in Washington, DC on July 29th?

I'll be there.  Drinks at Sequoia!!!
:)

PS- i need a drink. The two black actors, who, to my face said they were 
committed and excited, have not shown up to the last three
rehearsals...seem 
to have disappeared.

BUT- the show at Cherokee was great (even though almost all the parts were 
played by white actors)~ it was really cool to talk to some of the cast 
afterwards!

ultimately, life is good. LOVE!

Peace,
Katie

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From sjsmith at njvvmf.org  Mon Jul 25 07:42:18 2005
From: sjsmith at njvvmf.org (Sibley Smith)
Date: Mon Jul 25 08:06:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] On Anti-War Poetry by Veterans of War
References: <BAY5-DAV1237E86FBB9A68A5277FCEABC80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D28F41534C544CD18EB1482D6A23C75E@njdmava.state.nj.us>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:29 AM

Nice HAiR Sib.... Nice twinkle in your eye as well....  :-)

peace,
barbara

=================

Thanks, Barbara.

And here's a twinkly wink of the eye to you!  ; )

peace,
sib

From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 25 08:23:57 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Mon Jul 25 08:26:05 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <380-22005702414616598@M2W042.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F326D7ACBB4E0E1762FCC22ADCA0@phx.gbl>

It seems to be an Asheville curse.

My stage manager just quit because she has to have surgery and the doctor 
said she's not allowed to do another show...

But I looked at the I Ching yesterday, and when I asked, "what can I say to 
motivate the cast and crew", it led me to "Calculated Waiting".
So cool really, it actually said, "Destiny is at work here", and basically 
that we are all part of something bigger than ourselves.
I brought it to rehearsal and read it to the cast~ we have named ourselves 
the Phoenix Tribe.

Before the Trail of Tears, the Cherokee newspaper was called "The Phoenix"
and this production seems to be re-born from ashes on a daily basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On a Directing note,  my woof is still a little sulky at not playing Claude.
I've talked to him and am going to do more acting improv with the group~
but has anyone encountered this before...anything magic to help everyone
see the big picture?

Thank you!
Have a wonderful and beautiful day.
Peace,
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Mon Jul 25 09:31:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: For Gore,
	a Reincarnation on the Other Side of the Camera
Message-ID: <20050725162922.4DB0E13B7E7@lax-gw04.mroute.net>

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From cpreston2 at tds.net  Mon Jul 25 10:16:16 2005
From: cpreston2 at tds.net (Charles Preston)
Date: Mon Jul 25 10:18:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] thanks michael
References: <BAY104-F5602BA2CD4A33F6CD56DDADD70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01c5913c$91969f80$0400a8c0@CHARLES>

Hi Katie,

Sorry to hear about your stage manager leaving, I know that is a little set 
back but not much, The production will go on and you will find someone that 
will be able to continue with the job.
There are definitely bigger things than ourselves take it from one that 
looks deep into the universe and can see deep into it and sees many things. 
Destiny is at work just be patience.
I would be there in a flash if  I could to help you, but that is not 
possible at this time, you have my support though that is a fact.
I love the name you have chosen for the tribe The Phoenix Tribe very 
excellent choice as this wizard or wizards would say.
I have decided to find a house here in the mountains and stay nothing big 
but something adequate.I will be selling a large portion of what I have down 
by the city and make the mountains my home.

I shall talk to you later, I'll be around.

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>; <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] thanks michael


> How wonderful that you got to see it Michael!!!
>
> I heard an excerpt on NPR and it sounded superb.  I love Julien Sands... 
> ;)
> Maybe they will change their minds and have a tour someday.
> I hope so.
>
> Peace,
> Katie
>
>
> ALOHA NUI LOA!
>
>
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From cpreston2 at tds.net  Mon Jul 25 10:36:40 2005
From: cpreston2 at tds.net (Charles Preston)
Date: Mon Jul 25 10:38:24 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
References: <200507231900.j6NJ0AGg018467@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
	<001d01c58fcc$da3194f0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <003401c5913f$6b263380$0400a8c0@CHARLES>

Thanks Leo, Mine was the 15th of this month..

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays


> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy 
> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope 
> your birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>
> PEACE,
> Leo
>
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From jules at thirdeyestudio.com  Mon Jul 25 11:04:37 2005
From: jules at thirdeyestudio.com (Jules Fisher)
Date: Mon Jul 25 10:39:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Essay by E. L. Doctorow
Message-ID: <200507251739.j6PHdC6n023890@dune.islandtechnologies.net>

Thought you might appreciate this from a wonderful writer.
Love, Jules

Subject: Essay by E. L. Doctorow


Friends --



Essay by E. L. Doctorow

I fault this president [George W. Bush] for not knowing what death is.  He
does not suffer the death of our twenty-one year olds who wanted to be what
they could be.  On the eve of D-day in 1944 General Eisenhower prayed to God
for the lives of the young soldiers he knew were going to die.  He knew what
death was.  Even in a justifiable war, a war not of choice but of necessity, a
war of survival, the cost was almost more than Eisenhower could bear.

But this president does not know what death is.  He hasn't the mind for it.
You see him joking with the press, peering under the table for the WMDs he
can't seem to find, you see him at rallies strutting up to the stage in
shirt sleeves to the roar of the carefully screened crowd, smiling and
waving, triumphal, a he-man.  He does not mourn.  He doesn't understand why he
should mourn.  He is satisfied during the course of a speech written for him
to look solemn for a moment and speak of the brave young Americans who made
the ultimate sacrifice for their country.  But you study him, you look into
his eyes and know he dissembles an emotion which he does not feel in the
depths of his being because he has no capacity for it.  He does not feel a
personal responsibility for the thousand dead young men and women who wanted
be what they could be.

They come to his desk not as youngsters with mothers and fathers or wives and
children who will suffer to the end of their days a terribly torn fabric of
familial relationships and the inconsolable remembrance of aborted life....
They come to his desk as a political liability which is why the press is not
permitted to photograph the arrival of their coffins from Iraq.

How then can he mourn?  To mourn is to express regret and he regrets nothing.
He does not regret that his reason for going to war was, as he knew,
unsubstantiated by the facts.  He does not regret that his bungled plan for
the war's aftermath has made of his mission-accomplished a disaster.  He does
not regret that rather than controlling terrorism his war in Iraq has
licensed it.  So he never mourns for the dead and crippled youngsters who have
fought this war of his choice.  He wanted to go to war and he did.

He had not the mind to perceive the costs of war, or to listen to those who
knew those costs.  He did not understand that you do not go to war when it is
one of the options, but when it is the only option; you go not because you
want to but because you have to.  This president knew it would be difficult
for Americans not to cheer the overthrow of a foreign dictator.  He knew that
much.

This president and his supporters would seem to have a mind for only one
thing --- to take power, to remain in power, and to use that power for the
sake of themselves and their friends.  A war will do that as well as anything.
You become a wartime leader.  The country gets behind you.  Dissent becomes
inappropriate.  And so he does not drop to his knees, he is not contrite, he
does not it in the church with the grieving parents and wives and children.

He is the President who does not feel.  He does not feel for the families of
the dead; he does not feel for the thirty five million of us who live in
poverty; he does not feel for the forty percent who cannot afford health
insurance; he does not feel for the miners whose lungs are turning black or
for the working people he has deprived of the chance to work overtime at
time-and-a-half to pay their bills --- it is amazing for how many people in
this country this President does not feel.

But he will dissemble feeling.  He will say in all sincerity he is relieving
the wealthiest one percent of the population of their tax burden for the sake
of the rest of us, and that he is polluting the air we breathe for the sake
of our economy, and that he is decreasing the safety regulations for coal
mines to save the coal miners' jobs, and that he is depriving workers of
their time-and-a-half benefits for overtime because this is actually a way to
honor them by raising them into the professional class.  And this litany of
lies he will versify with reverences for God and the flag and democracy, when
just what he and his party are doing to our democracy is choking the life out
of it.

But there is one more terribly sad thing about all of this.  I remember the
millions of people here and around the world who marched against the war.  It
was extraordinary, that spontaneously aroused oversoul of alarm and protest
that transcended national borders.  Why did it happen?  After all, this was not
the only war anyone had ever seen coming.  There are little wars all over the
world most of the time.  But the cry of protest was the appalled understanding
of millions of people that America was ceding its role as the last best hope
of mankind.  It was their perception that the classic archetype of democracy
was morphing into a rogue nation.  The greatest democratic republic in history
was turning its back on the future, using its extraordinary power and
standing not to advance the ideal of a concordance of civilizations but to
endorse the kind of tribal combat that originated with the Neanderthals, a
people, now extinct, who could imagine ensuring their survival by no other
means than preemptive war.

The president we get is the country we get.  With each president the nation is
conformed spiritually.  He is the artificer of our malleable national soul.  He
proposes not only the laws but the kinds of lawlessness that govern our lives
and invoke our responses.  The people he appoints are cast in his image.  The
trouble they get into and get us into, is his characteristic trouble.

Finally the media amplify his character into our moral weather report.  He
becomes the face of our sky, the conditions that prevail:  How can we sustain
ourselves as the United States of America given the stupid and ineffective
warmaking, the constitutionally insensitive lawgiving, and the monarchal
economics of this president?  He cannot mourn but is a figure of such moral
vacancy as to make us mourn for ourselves.

* * * * 

Doctorow was born in New York City on January 6, 1931.  After graduating with
honors from Kenyon College in 1952, he did graduate work at Columbia
University and served in the U.S. Army.  


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Jul 25 10:42:29 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Jul 25 10:44:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
In-Reply-To: <003401c5913f$6b263380$0400a8c0@CHARLES>
Message-ID: <BF0A7296.2259B%michael@michaelbutler.com>

And Charles the best to you for this year and on and onnnnnnnn!
Michael

> Thanks Leo, Mine was the 15th of this month..
> 
> Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
> 
> 
>> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy
>> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope
>> your birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>> 
>> PEACE,
>> Leo
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
>> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
>> 
> 
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From cpreston2 at tds.net  Mon Jul 25 12:29:09 2005
From: cpreston2 at tds.net (Charles Preston)
Date: Mon Jul 25 12:30:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
References: <BF0A7296.2259B%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <004901c5914f$229ee610$0400a8c0@CHARLES>

Thanks Michael!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays


> And Charles the best to you for this year and on and onnnnnnnn!
> Michael
> 
>> Thanks Leo, Mine was the 15th of this month..
>> 
>> Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
>> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
>> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
>> 
>> 
>>> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy
>>> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope
>>> your birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>>> 
>>> PEACE,
>>> Leo
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Mb-hair mailing list
>>> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
>>> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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From cpreston2 at tds.net  Mon Jul 25 12:36:13 2005
From: cpreston2 at tds.net (Charles Preston)
Date: Mon Jul 25 12:37:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Essay by E. L. Doctorow
References: <200507251739.j6PHdC6n023890@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <004e01c59150$1e6e8d60$0400a8c0@CHARLES>

Hi Jules,

Been A long time, think of you quite often.
Have come up with great new Electronic Jackets and other thing, they just 
sit on the self but there great all kinds of colors and all.

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jules Fisher" <jules@thirdeyestudio.com>
To: "Michael Butler (E-mail)" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Essay by E. L. Doctorow


> Thought you might appreciate this from a wonderful writer.
> Love, Jules
>
> Subject: Essay by E. L. Doctorow
>
>
> Friends --
>
>
>
> Essay by E. L. Doctorow
>
> I fault this president [George W. Bush] for not knowing what death is.  He
> does not suffer the death of our twenty-one year olds who wanted to be 
> what
> they could be.  On the eve of D-day in 1944 General Eisenhower prayed to 
> God
> for the lives of the young soldiers he knew were going to die.  He knew 
> what
> death was.  Even in a justifiable war, a war not of choice but of 
> necessity, a
> war of survival, the cost was almost more than Eisenhower could bear.
>
> But this president does not know what death is.  He hasn't the mind for 
> it.
> You see him joking with the press, peering under the table for the WMDs he
> can't seem to find, you see him at rallies strutting up to the stage in
> shirt sleeves to the roar of the carefully screened crowd, smiling and
> waving, triumphal, a he-man.  He does not mourn.  He doesn't understand 
> why he
> should mourn.  He is satisfied during the course of a speech written for 
> him
> to look solemn for a moment and speak of the brave young Americans who 
> made
> the ultimate sacrifice for their country.  But you study him, you look 
> into
> his eyes and know he dissembles an emotion which he does not feel in the
> depths of his being because he has no capacity for it.  He does not feel a
> personal responsibility for the thousand dead young men and women who 
> wanted
> be what they could be.
>
> They come to his desk not as youngsters with mothers and fathers or wives 
> and
> children who will suffer to the end of their days a terribly torn fabric 
> of
> familial relationships and the inconsolable remembrance of aborted 
> life....
> They come to his desk as a political liability which is why the press is 
> not
> permitted to photograph the arrival of their coffins from Iraq.
>
> How then can he mourn?  To mourn is to express regret and he regrets 
> nothing.
> He does not regret that his reason for going to war was, as he knew,
> unsubstantiated by the facts.  He does not regret that his bungled plan 
> for
> the war's aftermath has made of his mission-accomplished a disaster.  He 
> does
> not regret that rather than controlling terrorism his war in Iraq has
> licensed it.  So he never mourns for the dead and crippled youngsters who 
> have
> fought this war of his choice.  He wanted to go to war and he did.
>
> He had not the mind to perceive the costs of war, or to listen to those 
> who
> knew those costs.  He did not understand that you do not go to war when it 
> is
> one of the options, but when it is the only option; you go not because you
> want to but because you have to.  This president knew it would be 
> difficult
> for Americans not to cheer the overthrow of a foreign dictator.  He knew 
> that
> much.
>
> This president and his supporters would seem to have a mind for only one
> thing --- to take power, to remain in power, and to use that power for the
> sake of themselves and their friends.  A war will do that as well as 
> anything.
> You become a wartime leader.  The country gets behind you.  Dissent 
> becomes
> inappropriate.  And so he does not drop to his knees, he is not contrite, 
> he
> does not it in the church with the grieving parents and wives and 
> children.
>
> He is the President who does not feel.  He does not feel for the families 
> of
> the dead; he does not feel for the thirty five million of us who live in
> poverty; he does not feel for the forty percent who cannot afford health
> insurance; he does not feel for the miners whose lungs are turning black 
> or
> for the working people he has deprived of the chance to work overtime at
> time-and-a-half to pay their bills --- it is amazing for how many people 
> in
> this country this President does not feel.
>
> But he will dissemble feeling.  He will say in all sincerity he is 
> relieving
> the wealthiest one percent of the population of their tax burden for the 
> sake
> of the rest of us, and that he is polluting the air we breathe for the 
> sake
> of our economy, and that he is decreasing the safety regulations for coal
> mines to save the coal miners' jobs, and that he is depriving workers of
> their time-and-a-half benefits for overtime because this is actually a way 
> to
> honor them by raising them into the professional class.  And this litany 
> of
> lies he will versify with reverences for God and the flag and democracy, 
> when
> just what he and his party are doing to our democracy is choking the life 
> out
> of it.
>
> But there is one more terribly sad thing about all of this.  I remember 
> the
> millions of people here and around the world who marched against the war. 
> It
> was extraordinary, that spontaneously aroused oversoul of alarm and 
> protest
> that transcended national borders.  Why did it happen?  After all, this 
> was not
> the only war anyone had ever seen coming.  There are little wars all over 
> the
> world most of the time.  But the cry of protest was the appalled 
> understanding
> of millions of people that America was ceding its role as the last best 
> hope
> of mankind.  It was their perception that the classic archetype of 
> democracy
> was morphing into a rogue nation.  The greatest democratic republic in 
> history
> was turning its back on the future, using its extraordinary power and
> standing not to advance the ideal of a concordance of civilizations but to
> endorse the kind of tribal combat that originated with the Neanderthals, a
> people, now extinct, who could imagine ensuring their survival by no other
> means than preemptive war.
>
> The president we get is the country we get.  With each president the 
> nation is
> conformed spiritually.  He is the artificer of our malleable national 
> soul.  He
> proposes not only the laws but the kinds of lawlessness that govern our 
> lives
> and invoke our responses.  The people he appoints are cast in his image. 
> The
> trouble they get into and get us into, is his characteristic trouble.
>
> Finally the media amplify his character into our moral weather report.  He
> becomes the face of our sky, the conditions that prevail:  How can we 
> sustain
> ourselves as the United States of America given the stupid and ineffective
> warmaking, the constitutionally insensitive lawgiving, and the monarchal
> economics of this president?  He cannot mourn but is a figure of such 
> moral
> vacancy as to make us mourn for ourselves.
>
> * * * *
>
> Doctorow was born in New York City on January 6, 1931.  After graduating 
> with
> honors from Kenyon College in 1952, he did graduate work at Columbia
> University and served in the U.S. Army.
>
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Mon Jul 25 15:41:34 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Mon Jul 25 15:43:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The New Revolution ?
Message-ID: <000801c5916a$02bd04b0$8a03ca44@CowBox>

Jane Fonda, maybe she will be the spark to wake up this apathetic, desensitized, self absorbed society & get a drumbeat rolling on to a new revolution on the ignorance & maddness of this war.


http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/entertainment/article.adp?id=20050725091309990004


Peace
Robin


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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul 25 17:07:03 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 25 17:09:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV23AD357EF75CAB20A6CC02ABCD0@phx.gbl>

Hey Katie... how about getting a few of the cast to tell Woof how great or special he is in that part (of course he should not know it was YOUR idea)... sort of like HE was meant to be Woof, which he probably was /is since you chose him to be such.... :-)

peace,
barbar

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:23:57 -0700
To: fotoblue@flash.net, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions

It seems to be an Asheville curse.

My stage manager just quit because she has to have surgery and the doctor 
said she's not allowed to do another show...

But I looked at the I Ching yesterday, and when I asked, "what can I say to 
motivate the cast and crew", it led me to "Calculated Waiting".
So cool really, it actually said, "Destiny is at work here", and basically 
that we are all part of something bigger than ourselves.
I brought it to rehearsal and read it to the cast~ we have named ourselves 
the Phoenix Tribe.

Before the Trail of Tears, the Cherokee newspaper was called "The Phoenix"
and this production seems to be re-born from ashes on a daily basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On a Directing note,  my woof is still a little sulky at not playing Claude.
I've talked to him and am going to do more acting improv with the group~
but has anyone encountered this before...anything magic to help everyone
see the big picture?

Thank you!
Have a wonderful and beautiful day.
Peace,
Katie


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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Mon Jul 25 17:13:32 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Mon Jul 25 17:15:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV2501B9F586BE3E262DEB5ABCD0@phx.gbl>

Belated Happy Birthday to you Charles and I am sooo happy you have chosen to live in the mountains, there should be much peace for you there. Just keep low and mellow and keep to your self, don't forget there are some rednecks still in the mountains so be cool   :-)  ......

love and peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Preston
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:36:40 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays

Thanks Leo, Mine was the 15th of this month..

Peace, Love, & Blessings ~~Charles~~


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <peacefreak@metrocast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthdays


> Happy birthdays to all of you who are/were celebrating them and happy 
> unbirthday (as Alice from Wonderland would say) to the rest of us. Hope 
> your birthdays were the grooviest yet!
>
> PEACE,
> Leo
>
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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 25 20:53:28 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Mon Jul 25 20:55:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] The New Revolution ?
In-Reply-To: <000801c5916a$02bd04b0$8a03ca44@CowBox>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F31A3193C7ECD7DF500809CADCD0@phx.gbl>

Awesome!

I hope people have their blinders off when Ms. Fonda rolls into their towns.
why do people refuse the truth?
is it that they will have to take responsibility all of a sudden~ good 
grief.

i wish everyone could see that ultimately Rs and Ds should have the same 
goals.
gotta find what is similar.
maybe if I assume that every conservative i meet (even with his W and 
Confederate flag stickers) has the same goals and, obviously must believe in 
civil rights and liberties, then real dialogue could start.  or he/she would 
be so surprised that they wouldn't start shouting right away.
you know, "fake it 'till you make it!"

i know, "what fools (we) mortals be"...

Sweet dreams just the same.
Katie


ALOHA NUI LOA!


From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 26 05:33:38 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Tue Jul 26 05:35:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV23AD357EF75CAB20A6CC02ABCD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20050726123338.56063.qmail@web54203.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Katie.. I can't speak for your Woof, but I can remember trying out for two plays.. One, (Tommy) Inwhich I really wanted the title role, as I knew I could sing the shit out of the part. (Of course I was still a bit green in the whole theatre scene, so only knew the role by Roger Daltrys portrail  of said charecter) They offered me Uncle Ernie. Uncle Ernie..The one role I swore I would not take if offered. (I had a real moral issue playing a child molester) I originally turned the role down, but was talked back into it when the director voiced her reasons as to why she needed me as Uncle Ernie. (1, that the people who auditioned were mostly younger than myself, so having Tommy be older than his folks wouldn't fly, and 2, and the main reason I did the part, They wanted my son as young Tommy, and this was only his third play.. So I did it. And though I knew each night that I could have nailed the Tommy songs, rocking them better than the guy doing the role. I did my job and h
 ad a lot
 of fun. (By the way one thing the director did for me, and for the production, was to give me a few more vocal parts. ie: A harmony in eyesght for the blind where the guy inging the main vocal couldn't hit the high notes. etc... this made it better for me. And the show was great... though I still felt it needed that rock n roll edge of a long hair projecting the Daltry screams, it wasn't my job as actor to cast or direct. And again in auditioning for Jekell and Hyde.. inwhich the same director told me a year earlier that she wanted me to play the title role.. so I picked up the CD and learned the part, only to find the same problem.. young cast.. so I ended up as Stride, after again originally turning the role down.. Again.. the reasons were told to me and I was given other tidbits in other ensemble songs. I'm a rock n roll singer who fell into acting through the love of the vocal lines of Jesus Christ Superstar. (which I did get the role I wnet out for.. Jesus) And though I
  have
 landed some great roles.. I don't really consider myself an actor.. I do alright at acting but I shine on another stage.I am sure that it's ego more than anything that is making your Woof long for the Claude role. But you've got to make him see the big picture.. and if he is good and you need other voices to beef up certain parts maybe offer them up to him. (Not that I myself wouldn't have done those roles had I not been given the tidbits, but it definetly helped me feel I was contributing all I could to the show.) Egos come in all sizes.. and no matter how hard we try to surpress them, it's human nature Anyway.. I bet he'll come around. Hell Hair is such a great experience and if the cast is tight in love and friendship, roles don't really matter, it's all about looking forward to getting everyone together and having fun.  
 
Hope that helps.. JIM

Barbara Siomos <barbarasiomos38@msn.com> wrote:
Hey Katie... how about getting a few of the cast to tell Woof how great or special he is in that part (of course he should not know it was YOUR idea)... sort of like HE was meant to be Woof, which he probably was /is since you chose him to be such.... :-)

peace,
barbar

-----Original Message-----
From: Katie Kasben
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:23:57 -0700
To: fotoblue@flash.net, mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions

It seems to be an Asheville curse.

My stage manager just quit because she has to have surgery and the doctor 
said she's not allowed to do another show...

But I looked at the I Ching yesterday, and when I asked, "what can I say to 
motivate the cast and crew", it led me to "Calculated Waiting".
So cool really, it actually said, "Destiny is at work here", and basically 
that we are all part of something bigger than ourselves.
I brought it to rehearsal and read it to the cast~ we have named ourselves 
the Phoenix Tribe.

Before the Trail of Tears, the Cherokee newspaper was called "The Phoenix"
and this production seems to be re-born from ashes on a daily basis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On a Directing note, my woof is still a little sulky at not playing Claude.
I've talked to him and am going to do more acting improv with the group~
but has anyone encountered this before...anything magic to help everyone
see the big picture?

Thank you!
Have a wonderful and beautiful day.
Peace,
Katie


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From akstudio at flash.net  Mon Jul 25 23:15:38 2005
From: akstudio at flash.net (DAGMAR & ANTON)
Date: Tue Jul 26 06:46:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
In-Reply-To: <000101c5916c$c6fd9450$5fd9fea9@HJS>
Message-ID: <20050726061538.93596.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com>

WHAT A LIST!!!

Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
 xxDagmar

--- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:

> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
> word has been
> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
> 
> 
> >11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >10. "What the @#$% was that?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
> 
> >
> 
> >--Einstein, 1938
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Picasso, 1926
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Pythagoras, 126BC
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Michelangelo, 1566
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Amelia Earhart, 1937
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
> 
> >
> 
> >--Noah, 4314BC
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
> 
> >
> 
> >-- Bill Clinton, 1999
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
> mad."
> 
> >
> 
> >--Saddam Hussein, 2003
> 



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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Jul 26 10:15:44 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Jul 26 10:17:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
In-Reply-To: <20050726061538.93596.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BF0BBDD0.22647%michael@michaelbutler.com>

What about HAIR!

> WHAT A LIST!!!
> 
> Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
> xxDagmar
> 
> --- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
>> word has been
>> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
>> 
>> 
>>> 11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 10. "What the @#$% was that?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Einstein, 1938
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Picasso, 1926
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Pythagoras, 126BC
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Michelangelo, 1566
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Amelia Earhart, 1937
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Noah, 4314BC
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> -- Bill Clinton, 1999
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
>> mad."
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Saddam Hussein, 2003
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> The "ELVIS! by Dagmar" Book (and a sampling of R'n'R photos) can be seen here:
> http://www.dagmarfoto.com
> 
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From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Tue Jul 26 10:56:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: All Ears for Tom Cruise,
	All Eyes on Brad Pitt
Message-ID: <20050726175354.0CC5E83CD4@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Tue Jul 26 17:20:21 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Tue Jul 26 17:22:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Current Productions
References: <200507261900.j6QJ09bB027228@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <001701c59240$f9930010$6401a8c0@Leo>


Ah Katie, the million dollar question! I've certainly had disgruntled actors 
after the initial casting but that disgruntlement disappeared once 
rehearsals got cranking. Although I don't feel a director has to explain 
their casting decisions, sometimes it might help IF the actor is willing to 
listen AND it was a directing decision based on "You absolutely nailed my 
vision of _______ (fill in the blank) when you auditioned." as opposed to, 
"Your singing range is weak." or something similar to that.
Actors are strange animals (I know cuz I'm one myself); some of them need to 
be coddled - especially in community theater.
But HAIR is such a tremendous ensemble show. EVERYONE gets huge stage time. 
It's not about the "lead" roles; it's about ensemble singing and acting and 
camaraderie. The togetherness of the Tribe is the glue of a successful 
production. Not one person is any more important than another. "We are all 
one." If you can impress this upon the Tribe maybe your Woof will get the 
message and understand that just being a part of HAIR is the ultimate 
experience that any actor can ever have. I cast a guy who couldn't sing a 
lick (he knew it) and couldn't dance to save his soul (he knew this also). 
But when he came to audition he said, "I'll do anything I can just to be in 
a production of HAIR." He was impassioned about it and that was all I needed 
to know. I know it's tough Katie to impart this message early on; but, if 
Woof can just hang in there and start to feel the joy and magic of HAIR, 
that actor's ego will disolve and, when it's all over, he too will be 
knowing how fortunate he was to be a part of the HAIR experience.
I can tell you're impassioned Katie and it's up to you to light that same 
passion within your Woof. I just betcha your passion spills over anyway; it 
sure does on this list!!!
That's all I've got for ya.

PEACE,
Leo

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Katie Kasben
 Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions

On a Directing note,  my woof is still a little sulky at not playing Claude. 
I've talked to him and am going to do more acting improv with the group~ but 
has anyone encountered this before...anything magic to help everyone see the 
big picture?

 Thank you!
Have a wonderful and beautiful day.
Peace,
Katie


From skonig at cox.net  Wed Jul 27 12:08:37 2005
From: skonig at cox.net (skonig@cox.net)
Date: Wed Jul 27 12:10:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
Message-ID: <20050727190830.PASS17043.fed1rmmtao03.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net>

and as Gerry used to say.........."oh, fucky fuck fuck" the shirt.......
> 
> From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> Date: 2005/07/26 Tue PM 01:15:44 EDT
> To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
> 
> What about HAIR!
> 
> > WHAT A LIST!!!
> > 
> > Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
> > xxDagmar
> > 
> > --- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
> >> word has been
> >> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> 11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 10. "What the @#$% was that?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Einstein, 1938
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Picasso, 1926
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Pythagoras, 126BC
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Michelangelo, 1566
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Amelia Earhart, 1937
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Noah, 4314BC
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> -- Bill Clinton, 1999
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> 1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
> >> mad."
> >> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >>> --Saddam Hussein, 2003
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The "ELVIS! by Dagmar" Book (and a sampling of R'n'R photos) can be seen here:
> > http://www.dagmarfoto.com
> > 
> > Come visit Atelier Anton Krajnc in Cyberspace:
> > http://www.AntonKrajnc.com
> > _______________________________________________
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Wed Jul 27 15:42:52 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Wed Jul 27 15:45:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Current Productions
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1691146F9890BB3C0E6D8CABCC0@phx.gbl>

Excellent advice Leo...   :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Leo
Sent: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:20:21 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Current Productions


Ah Katie, the million dollar question! I've certainly had disgruntled actors 
after the initial casting but that disgruntlement disappeared once 
rehearsals got cranking. Although I don't feel a director has to explain 
their casting decisions, sometimes it might help IF the actor is willing to 
listen AND it was a directing decision based on "You absolutely nailed my 
vision of _______ (fill in the blank) when you auditioned." as opposed to, 
"Your singing range is weak." or something similar to that.
Actors are strange animals (I know cuz I'm one myself); some of them need to 
be coddled - especially in community theater.
But HAIR is such a tremendous ensemble show. EVERYONE gets huge stage time. 
It's not about the "lead" roles; it's about ensemble singing and acting and 
camaraderie. The togetherness of the Tribe is the glue of a successful 
production. Not one person is any more important than another. "We are all 
one." If you can impress this upon the Tribe maybe your Woof will get the 
message and understand that just being a part of HAIR is the ultimate 
experience that any actor can ever have. I cast a guy who couldn't sing a 
lick (he knew it) and couldn't dance to save his soul (he knew this also) 
But when he came to audition he said, "I'll do anything I can just to be in 
a production of HAIR." He was impassioned about it and that was all I needed 
to know. I know it's tough Katie to impart this message early on; but, if 
Woof can just hang in there and start to feel the joy and magic of HAIR, 
that actor's ego will disolve and, when it's all over, he too will be 
knowing how fortunate he was to be a part of the HAIR experience.
I can tell you're impassioned Katie and it's up to you to light that same 
passion within your Woof. I just betcha your passion spills over anyway; it 
sure does on this list!!!
That's all I've got for ya.

PEACE,
Leo

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Katie Kasben
 Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Re: Re- Current Productions

On a Directing note,  my woof is still a little sulky at not playing Claude. 
I've talked to him and am going to do more acting improv with the group~ but 
has anyone encountered this before...anything magic to help everyone see the 
big picture?

 Thank you!
Have a wonderful and beautiful day.
Peace,
Katie


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From fotoblue at flash.net  Wed Jul 27 16:11:36 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Wed Jul 27 16:13:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
Message-ID: <380-220057327231136591@M2W090.mail2web.com>

Hi Michael, 

that's why I "dared" send it to the list!!

 Didn't Woof say at some point "oh fucky fuck-fuck!"

 and my all-time favorite is "emanci-motherfucking-pator of the slaves" 
;-))

 priceless

 Dagmar

PS remark in the margin:  
since English is not my original native language, I probably have a
different 
relationship to and feeling for many words.
 There are some I can easily say or  yell in English, 
while it would be impossible to even whisper them in German!
In my family we were not allowed to use any swearwords at all. 
So my sister and I creatively made up our own.

;-)

gotta express your feelings somehow!!

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:15:44 -0700
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word


What about HAIR!

> WHAT A LIST!!!
> 
> Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
> xxDagmar
> 
> --- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
>> word has been
>> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
>> 
>> 
>>> 11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 10. "What the @#$% was that?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Einstein, 1938
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Picasso, 1926
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Pythagoras, 126BC
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Michelangelo, 1566
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Amelia Earhart, 1937
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Noah, 4314BC
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> -- Bill Clinton, 1999
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> 1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
>> mad."
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> --Saddam Hussein, 2003
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> The "ELVIS! by Dagmar" Book (and a sampling of R'n'R photos) can be seen
here:
> http://www.dagmarfoto.com
> 
> Come visit Atelier Anton Krajnc in Cyberspace:
> http://www.AntonKrajnc.com
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Wed Jul 27 16:25:33 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Wed Jul 27 16:27:47 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
In-Reply-To: <380-220057327231136591@M2W090.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <BF0D65FD.2270E%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Dagmar,

In the end of the Claude trip scene. He and Berger say those lines more than
once. The first time they were heard on B'way it took everyone's breathe
away. You can imagine the reaction when we toured-particularly in the Red
States.

XO Michael

> Hi Michael, 
> 
> that's why I "dared" send it to the list!!
> 
> Didn't Woof say at some point "oh fucky fuck-fuck!"
> 
> and my all-time favorite is "emanci-motherfucking-pator of the slaves"
> ;-))
> 
> priceless
> 
> Dagmar
> 
> PS remark in the margin:
> since English is not my original native language, I probably have a
> different 
> relationship to and feeling for many words.
> There are some I can easily say or  yell in English,
> while it would be impossible to even whisper them in German!
> In my family we were not allowed to use any swearwords at all.
> So my sister and I creatively made up our own.
> 
> ;-)
> 
> gotta express your feelings somehow!!
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:15:44 -0700
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
> 
> 
> What about HAIR!
> 
>> WHAT A LIST!!!
>> 
>> Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
>> xxDagmar
>> 
>> --- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
>>> word has been
>>> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 10. "What the @#$% was that?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Einstein, 1938
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Picasso, 1926
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Pythagoras, 126BC
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Michelangelo, 1566
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Amelia Earhart, 1937
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Noah, 4314BC
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -- Bill Clinton, 1999
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
>>> mad."
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> --Saddam Hussein, 2003
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The "ELVIS! by Dagmar" Book (and a sampling of R'n'R photos) can be seen
> here:
>> http://www.dagmarfoto.com
>> 
>> Come visit Atelier Anton Krajnc in Cyberspace:
>> http://www.AntonKrajnc.com
>> _______________________________________________
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Thu Jul 28 07:54:57 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Thu Jul 28 14:50:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hi katie
Message-ID: <42E8F1C1.147620C3@t-online.de>

hi katie darling  these neil woof donovans are okay guys if you give
them the good pills amature ego go to hello dolly  hang in there sister
your woof will arive  love and peace  neil woof donavan london 1968
vincent

From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 28 17:20:49 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Thu Jul 28 17:23:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair Off topic.. or maybe right on.
Message-ID: <20050729002050.76642.qmail@web54206.mail.yahoo.com>

 This was sent to me by a photographer friend and figured it might be fun to share with the tribe.
Peace Babies.. JIM
 

                                      A NEW COUNTRY OF BLUE STATES

Dear Red States:
We're ticked off at the way you've treated California, and we've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. 
In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii,Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the entire Northeast. 
We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches. 
 
We get Elliot Spitzer.You Get Ken Lay!
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Opry Land. 
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, 
We get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. 
If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. 
They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. 
We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and  Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you!

Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory,53 percent believe that Saddam was involved in
9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties.
 
By the way, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

Sincerely, Author Unknown in New California


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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Thu Jul 28 23:19:36 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Thu Jul 28 23:21:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Swear Not, By the Moon
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Thu, 28 Jul 2005
	12:00:08 -0700
Message-ID: <9225-42E9CA78-3203@storefull-3276.bay.webtv.net>


I revised this a couple of days ago, from something  I wrote a while
back...  How sad, that in just the last day, another setback...
___

 
It's exhilirating that the shuttle has returned to orbit, but those of
who grew up with the promise of the original space program know what
much further wonders, could have been ours, by now. Had government
funding, and policy, been further expended during the Apollo era, many
of the marvels shown in such science fiction films as 2001: A SPACE
ODYSSEY (lensed in 1968), could have been, today, not future
possibilities, but past accomplishments.

For over three decades, many visionary space goals have been thwarted by
those who don't believe that there's a tangible benefit to a manned
presence, in space. 

(In the early years of his first administration, Richard Nixon, for
example, cancelled a NASA program that aimed to have a man on Mars, by
1980!) 

It can still be daunting, to contemplate all of the benefits that might
have ensued, had we pursued what once seemed to be NASA's, and the
world's, implicit destiny. 

But, since 9/11, I've been haunted by another thought: 

Would the Muslim fundamentalists, and those others who call the Unted
States "the Great Satan," have been able to feel the same way, if we had
already achieved our vast space stations, and colonies on the moon? 

Could they really have believed that the devil had a home, in the
heavens? 

Jim Burns

From VinUschi at t-online.de  Fri Jul 29 00:48:02 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Jul 29 07:43:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: how was  newcastle]
Message-ID: <42E9DF31.1976CC58@t-online.de>

love  vincent
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From pappynson at comcast.net  Fri Jul 29 08:40:10 2005
From: pappynson at comcast.net (pappynson@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Jul 29 08:42:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Reunion
Message-ID: <072920051540.2087.42EA4DDA00004E3400000827220700164102019C02979F9F0E9F@comcast.net>

Hey Michael:

Its Pappy, when is the reunion in New York?
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 29 08:53:51 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Fri Jul 29 08:56:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Reunion
In-Reply-To: <072920051540.2087.42EA4DDA00004E3400000827220700164102019C02979F9F0E9F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F4FD0BB4638B84B7C19E42B2CE0@phx.gbl>

Glad to hear from you, Pappy! The email address I had for you was outdated. 
Reunion info coming you way.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Jul 29 13:56:37 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Jul 29 14:00:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Help support Tibet
Message-ID: <20050729205637.21237.829.qmail@web7.getactive.com>

Barbara Siomos (barbarasiomos38@msn.com) has forwarded you a
message from Students for a Free Tibet's Action Center, which is
on the web at: 
http://actionnetwork.org/nd.tcl?r=371jumM19Rc-&n=3453817

Hi there,

I thought you would be interested in this opportunity to help
Tibet. 

Thank you.

barbara

Follow this link to sign up: 
http://actionnetwork.org/sft/join.html?r=371jumM19Rc-

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From zenzjay at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 29 14:34:47 2005
From: zenzjay at earthlink.net (Jonathan Zenz)
Date: Fri Jul 29 14:37:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Warning: A Solicitation
Message-ID: <001f01c59485$586459e0$1259820a@amer.warnerbros.com>

Hello Tribe,

Most of you do not know me except as a tribe member on this online community who reads a lot of the emails but rarely sends emails.

I don't want to take too much of your time but I am competing on September 25, 2005 in the Nautica Malibu Triathlon which is a fundraiser for the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation.  I am hoping to raise $1000 in support of the foundation and could use your help.

I am going to be participating in the full race which is an 800 meter swim (about 1/2 mile), an 18 mile bike ride, and a 4 mile run.  I have never in my life done an event like this, but I am really enjoying the challenge of training for the event.

If you can help it would be truly appreciated.  Please do not feel obligated.  If you would like to make a donation online you can do so securely at the following:

http://nauticatriathlon.kintera.org/faf/r.asp?t=4&i=97040&u=97040-91504857&e=345488291

More information on the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation can be obtained at:

http://www.pedaids.org

Thank you so much for letting me take a few moments out of your day.

Peace and Blessings,
Jonathan Zenz
(Berger - Silverlake, CA Tribe '04)
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"One person with a belief is equal to a force of ninety-nine who have only interests." 
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Fri Jul 29 16:04:21 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Fri Jul 29 16:06:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair Off topic.. or maybe right on.
Message-ID: <380-22005752923421635@M2W103.mail2web.com>

Thanks, Jim,

This is great! I am sending it on (mostly BCC) with only one minor
correction: 
NuevA California, it's a girl!

 ;-)

 Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: James Pappaconstantine georgeberger69@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair Off topic.. or maybe right on.


 This was sent to me by a photographer friend and figured it might be fun
to share with 
the tribe.
Peace Babies.. JIM
 

                                      A NEW COUNTRY OF BLUE STATES

Dear Red States:
We're ticked off at the way you've treated California, and we've decided
we're leaving. 
We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States
with us. 
In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii,Oregon, Washington,
Minnesota, 
Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the entire Northeast. 
We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to
the people of 
the new country of New California.
To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.
We get stem cell research and the best beaches. 
 
We get Elliot Spitzer.You Get Ken Lay!
We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Opry Land. 
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get
Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue; You get to make the red states pay
their fair 
share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian
Coalition's, 
We get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

Please be aware that Nueva California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and
we're 
going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. 
If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. 
They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no
purpose, and 
they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets
coming home. 
We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're
not 
willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of
the country's 
fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent
of the 
nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve
French wines 
at state dinners) 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech
industry, most of 
the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all
the Ivy and  
Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88
percent of all 
obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all
U.S. 
mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the
hurricanes, 99 
percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all
televangelists, Rush 
Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you!

Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was
actually 
swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're
discussing the 
death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a
theory,53 percent 
believe that Saddam was involved in
9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with
higher morals 
than we lefties.
 
By the way, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed
they grow in 
Mexico.

Sincerely, Author Unknown in New California


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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 16:37:38 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Fri Jul 29 16:39:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
In-Reply-To: <BF0D65FD.2270E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050729233738.56912.qmail@web50308.mail.yahoo.com>


Dagmar-Do you know how to reach any of the many German Hair cast members?I have been
having a long-distance fight with someone who says he is writing for Peter Kern and says
Peter wants nothing to do with anything about Hair.Says Peter wants to forget that part
of his life.Dagmar any info would be good.Your Friend.XOXOX M
- 

Michael David Arian 
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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 29 16:40:06 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Fri Jul 29 16:42:31 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
In-Reply-To: <BF0D65FD.2270E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050729234006.57501.qmail@web50308.mail.yahoo.com>

I think the fucky-fuck-fuck is with Claude and berger about "I wish it would snow" right
towards the end.M

--- Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:

> Dagmar,
> 
> In the end of the Claude trip scene. He and Berger say those lines more than
> once. The first time they were heard on B'way it took everyone's breathe
> away. You can imagine the reaction when we toured-particularly in the Red
> States.
> 
> XO Michael
> 
> > Hi Michael, 
> > 
> > that's why I "dared" send it to the list!!
> > 
> > Didn't Woof say at some point "oh fucky fuck-fuck!"
> > 
> > and my all-time favorite is "emanci-motherfucking-pator of the slaves"
> > ;-))
> > 
> > priceless
> > 
> > Dagmar
> > 
> > PS remark in the margin:
> > since English is not my original native language, I probably have a
> > different 
> > relationship to and feeling for many words.
> > There are some I can easily say or  yell in English,
> > while it would be impossible to even whisper them in German!
> > In my family we were not allowed to use any swearwords at all.
> > So my sister and I creatively made up our own.
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > gotta express your feelings somehow!!
> > 
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Michael Butler michael@michaelbutler.com
> > Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:15:44 -0700
> > To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: The F word
> > 
> > 
> > What about HAIR!
> > 
> >> WHAT A LIST!!!
> >> 
> >> Thanks, Sp?! I'm sending them on to "a selected few"
> >> xxDagmar
> >> 
> >> --- Hans J Spurkel <hjspurkel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> There are only eleven times in history where the "F"
> >>> word has been
> >>> considered acceptable for use. They are as follows:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 10. "What the @#$% was that?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Mayor of Hiroshima, 1945
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Gen. George Armstrong Custer, 1877
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that."
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Einstein, 1938
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Picasso, 1926
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Pythagoras, 126BC
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Michelangelo, 1566
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 4. "Where the @#$% are we?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Amelia Earhart, 1937
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers . . . my ass!"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Noah, 4314BC
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?"
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> -- Bill Clinton, 1999
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> 1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @#$%ing
> >>> mad."
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> --Saddam Hussein, 2003
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The "ELVIS! by Dagmar" Book (and a sampling of R'n'R photos) can be seen
> > here:
> >> http://www.dagmarfoto.com
> >> 
> >> Come visit Atelier Anton Krajnc in Cyberspace:
> >> http://www.AntonKrajnc.com
> >> _______________________________________________
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> > 
> > 
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From vinuschi at t-online.de  Sat Jul 30 08:48:24 2005
From: vinuschi at t-online.de (vinuschi@t-online.de)
Date: Sat Jul 30 08:51:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Guardian Unlimited Film: Back to the future
Message-ID: <20050730154824.90C3B1A7F6@mullet.gul3.gnl>

vincent edwards spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited Film site and thought you should see it.

-------
Note from vincent edwards:

worth a read  
-------

To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited Film site, go to http://film.guardian.co.uk

Back to the future
Ian Jack on the chilling prescience of a 1960s art-house film
Saturday July 30 2005
The Guardian


I first saw Gillo Pontecorvo's film, The Battle of Algiers , in a cinema about a hundred yards from King's Cross station. This must have been more than 30 years ago, long before King's Cross became a byword for death and disaster; the fire in 1987 and the bomb in July. In those days, what the name mainly suggested to me was the Edinburgh train - that and the area's reputation for streetwalkers and exiled Scottish drunks ("I wiz at El Alamein, I need tae get to Tooting, would you have two bob?"), and the fact, if it is a fact, that the station architecture was modelled on the tsar's riding stables in St Petersburg. The cinema specialised in films that weren't on general release - foreign films, old films - which was brave of its owners, considering its tatty location, and later it closed and became a rock venue or maybe a club. The building, I think, is still there.

Had it not been for the bomb on the Piccadilly line and its awful consequences, I would probably never have remembered where I saw The Battle of Algiers. Then, after July 7, I became slightly obsessed with a particular memory of the film, rented it on DVD, watched it twice, and recalled how much it had troubled me in 1971 or 1972 or whenever it was, and the argument I'd had with a friend as we walked together from the cinema to the tube, an argument about terrorism.

The first thing to say about The Battle of Algiers is that it's a thrilling, unsettling film, a tribute to the script of Franco Solinas and the music of Ennio Morricone as well as to the direction of Pontecorvo, who made nothing nearly as good before or after. It tells the story of the Algerian insurrection against the French in the late 1950s: first the revolt in the Algiers casbah, and then the repercussions from the French paratroops who were sent to quell it - terrorism and counter-terrorism - ending with a postcript that shows Algeria about to win independence from France in 1962. Pontecorvo shot his film only three years later - in Algiers, recreating real events and real characters in grainy black and white. It employs only one professional actor - Jean Martin, who plays the commander of the French paratroops, Colonel Mathieu. Sometimes you think you're watching a newsreel and sometimes a documentary. In fact, what you are always watching is a brilliant confection of r
 eality.

Pontecorvo was a politically committed film-maker, a Marxist who had joined the anti-fascist resistance in Italy during the second world war, and his film came out of a desire to dramatise and humanise the struggle against colonialism. If the key text of the time was Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth, published in 1961 with an introduction by Jean-Paul Sartre, then The Battle of Algiers, which was banned in France for several years, could be seen as its cinematic equivalent. Except that it isn't. Such was the spirit of the mid-60s, at least among the kind of people who went to art-house cinemas, that Pontecorvo seems to have taken it for granted that his audience's sympathy would instinctively side with the rebellious Algerians, the Muslims of the casbah. The historical injustice of their situation is never spelled out. Instead, Pontecorvo focuses narrowly on the conflict, trying to deepen our understanding of the barbarous behaviour on both sides, bombs from the Alger
 ians and torture from the French.

As I looked at it again, what struck me was its prescience; how it described a world now familiar to all of us, when at the time of its appearance in 1965 it described only a particular Algerian world that had recently been left behind. As paratroops raid a house, a helicopter hovers overhead. Hidden cameras film Muslims as they leave the casbah for the French quarter and the footage is played before an audience of paratroops. (How can you spot a terrorist? You can't.) Mathieu draws the cell structure of the rebels on a blackboard, three or four people to each cell, no cell knowing another. "Four hundred thousand Arabs live in the casbah," Mathieu says. "Are they all our enemies? We know they're not." He cuts a sympathetic figure, despite his dark glasses and his brutal strategy - the only workable one he knows, - which is to find some likely suspects and torture information from them. He has fought in the French resistance as well as Vietnam. When at a press conference someo
 ne mentions a pro-independence newspaper piece by Sartre, Mathieu wonders why "the Sartres are always on the other side".

The most terrible moments come when three women leave the casbah to plant their bombs. First, they are asked to dress as Francophile women to avoid detection at the checkpoints. Then they rendezvous with a bomb-maker who attaches a timer to each device. Each woman now goes her own way with a bomb in her basket - to a caf&#233;, a milk bar, and the offices of Air France. There they slyly slide their bombs under their stools and chairs they sit on, pushing them back with their heels. The French are entirely innocent of their fate, ordinary people doing ordinary things. Young couples dance to jukebox music, a little boy licks an ice-cream, a Frenchman offers his seat to one of the bombers as she stands at the bar and orders a Coke. Pontecorvo splices the scenes of their unbearable unknowingness with shots of a clock as its hands move towards 5.45. The women leave, the bombs explode. The camera captures the shock and incomprehension of the bloodied survivors as they stumble from 
 the wreckage. We never see the boy and his ice-cream again.

Even though the Provisional IRA had begun its bombing campaign in Northern Ireland when I saw The Battle of Algiers I think it was the film rather than any news coverage that made terrorism real to me. It was those scenes that led to the argument with my friend as we walked towards the tube. I said something like: "Terrorism is an awful thing." My friend wasn't so shocked. What he saw in the film was the difficult route to victory in a liberation struggle - the omelette that needed the broken eggs. He pointed out, rightly, that the French had air-bombed Algerian villages. A leader of the FLN, the Algerian liberation movement makes the same point in the film when he is verbally attacked by a French journalist for deploying bombs in baskets to kill innocent civilians: "Give us your bombers [your aircraft] and you can have our baskets."

My problem may have been -may still be - a want of empathic imagination. I could see myself as a European in a caf&#233;, my son eating an ice-cream, but less easily as a Berber villager cowering under the sound of French jets. That is a common problem (Pontecorvo himself may have been afflicted by it). I don't say that it accounts for July 7, far less excuses it. Still, you don't have to be George Galloway to see some truth trickling down from Sartre's statement about the liberation struggles of 50 years ago. In the introduction to Fanon's book, he wrote: "It is the moment of the boomerang."

Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited
From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 10:03:28 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 10:05:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Guardian Unlimited Film: Back to the future
In-Reply-To: <20050730154824.90C3B1A7F6@mullet.gul3.gnl>
Message-ID: <BF1100F0.228E3%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks I sent it to the Civic List.
Interesting article about Jane Fonda on the Guardian link.
Michael

> vincent edwards spotted this on the Guardian Unlimited Film site and thought
> you should see it.
> 
> -------
> Note from vincent edwards:
> 
> worth a read  
> -------
> 
> To see this story with its related links on the Guardian Unlimited Film site,
> go to http://film.guardian.co.uk
> 
> Back to the future
> Ian Jack on the chilling prescience of a 1960s art-house film
> Saturday July 30 2005
> The Guardian
> 
> 
> I first saw Gillo Pontecorvo's film, The Battle of Algiers , in a cinema about
> a hundred yards from King's Cross station. This must have been more than 30
> years ago, long before King's Cross became a byword for death and disaster;
> the fire in 1987 and the bomb in July. In those days, what the name mainly
> suggested to me was the Edinburgh train - that and the area's reputation for
> streetwalkers and exiled Scottish drunks ("I wiz at El Alamein, I need tae get
> to Tooting, would you have two bob?"), and the fact, if it is a fact, that the
> station architecture was modelled on the tsar's riding stables in St
> Petersburg. The cinema specialised in films that weren't on general release -
> foreign films, old films - which was brave of its owners, considering its
> tatty location, and later it closed and became a rock venue or maybe a club.
> The building, I think, is still there.
> 
> Had it not been for the bomb on the Piccadilly line and its awful
> consequences, I would probably never have remembered where I saw The Battle of
> Algiers. Then, after July 7, I became slightly obsessed with a particular
> memory of the film, rented it on DVD, watched it twice, and recalled how much
> it had troubled me in 1971 or 1972 or whenever it was, and the argument I'd
> had with a friend as we walked together from the cinema to the tube, an
> argument about terrorism.
> 
> The first thing to say about The Battle of Algiers is that it's a thrilling,
> unsettling film, a tribute to the script of Franco Solinas and the music of
> Ennio Morricone as well as to the direction of Pontecorvo, who made nothing
> nearly as good before or after. It tells the story of the Algerian
> insurrection against the French in the late 1950s: first the revolt in the
> Algiers casbah, and then the repercussions from the French paratroops who were
> sent to quell it - terrorism and counter-terrorism - ending with a postcript
> that shows Algeria about to win independence from France in 1962. Pontecorvo
> shot his film only three years later - in Algiers, recreating real events and
> real characters in grainy black and white. It employs only one professional
> actor - Jean Martin, who plays the commander of the French paratroops, Colonel
> Mathieu. Sometimes you think you're watching a newsreel and sometimes a
> documentary. In fact, what you are always watching is a brilliant confection
> of r
> eality.
> 
> Pontecorvo was a politically committed film-maker, a Marxist who had joined
> the anti-fascist resistance in Italy during the second world war, and his film
> came out of a desire to dramatise and humanise the struggle against
> colonialism. If the key text of the time was Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of
> the Earth, published in 1961 with an introduction by Jean-Paul Sartre, then
> The Battle of Algiers, which was banned in France for several years, could be
> seen as its cinematic equivalent. Except that it isn't. Such was the spirit of
> the mid-60s, at least among the kind of people who went to art-house cinemas,
> that Pontecorvo seems to have taken it for granted that his audience's
> sympathy would instinctively side with the rebellious Algerians, the Muslims
> of the casbah. The historical injustice of their situation is never spelled
> out. Instead, Pontecorvo focuses narrowly on the conflict, trying to deepen
> our understanding of the barbarous behaviour on both sides, bombs from the
> Alger
> ians and torture from the French.
> 
> As I looked at it again, what struck me was its prescience; how it described a
> world now familiar to all of us, when at the time of its appearance in 1965 it
> described only a particular Algerian world that had recently been left behind.
> As paratroops raid a house, a helicopter hovers overhead. Hidden cameras film
> Muslims as they leave the casbah for the French quarter and the footage is
> played before an audience of paratroops. (How can you spot a terrorist? You
> can't.) Mathieu draws the cell structure of the rebels on a blackboard, three
> or four people to each cell, no cell knowing another. "Four hundred thousand
> Arabs live in the casbah," Mathieu says. "Are they all our enemies? We know
> they're not." He cuts a sympathetic figure, despite his dark glasses and his
> brutal strategy - the only workable one he knows, - which is to find some
> likely suspects and torture information from them. He has fought in the French
> resistance as well as Vietnam. When at a press conference someo
> ne mentions a pro-independence newspaper piece by Sartre, Mathieu wonders why
> "the Sartres are always on the other side".
> 
> The most terrible moments come when three women leave the casbah to plant
> their bombs. First, they are asked to dress as Francophile women to avoid
> detection at the checkpoints. Then they rendezvous with a bomb-maker who
> attaches a timer to each device. Each woman now goes her own way with a bomb
> in her basket - to a caf&#233;, a milk bar, and the offices of Air France.
> There they slyly slide their bombs under their stools and chairs they sit on,
> pushing them back with their heels. The French are entirely innocent of their
> fate, ordinary people doing ordinary things. Young couples dance to jukebox
> music, a little boy licks an ice-cream, a Frenchman offers his seat to one of
> the bombers as she stands at the bar and orders a Coke. Pontecorvo splices the
> scenes of their unbearable unknowingness with shots of a clock as its hands
> move towards 5.45. The women leave, the bombs explode. The camera captures the
> shock and incomprehension of the bloodied survivors as they stumble from
> the wreckage. We never see the boy and his ice-cream again.
> 
> Even though the Provisional IRA had begun its bombing campaign in Northern
> Ireland when I saw The Battle of Algiers I think it was the film rather than
> any news coverage that made terrorism real to me. It was those scenes that led
> to the argument with my friend as we walked towards the tube. I said something
> like: "Terrorism is an awful thing." My friend wasn't so shocked. What he saw
> in the film was the difficult route to victory in a liberation struggle - the
> omelette that needed the broken eggs. He pointed out, rightly, that the French
> had air-bombed Algerian villages. A leader of the FLN, the Algerian liberation
> movement makes the same point in the film when he is verbally attacked by a
> French journalist for deploying bombs in baskets to kill innocent civilians:
> "Give us your bombers [your aircraft] and you can have our baskets."
> 
> My problem may have been -may still be - a want of empathic imagination. I
> could see myself as a European in a caf&#233;, my son eating an ice-cream, but
> less easily as a Berber villager cowering under the sound of French jets. That
> is a common problem (Pontecorvo himself may have been afflicted by it). I
> don't say that it accounts for July 7, far less excuses it. Still, you don't
> have to be George Galloway to see some truth trickling down from Sartre's
> statement about the liberation struggles of 50 years ago. In the introduction
> to Fanon's book, he wrote: "It is the moment of the boomerang."
> 
> Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited
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From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 12:34:59 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Sat Jul 30 12:37:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 32
In-Reply-To: <200507291900.j6TJ095u003757@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20050730193459.82412.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>


Jim, I loved that red states forwards!:) Wish it could
happen.....

(and it was certainly not off-topic, but as you said,
right on!)

-amy


		
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 10:58:26 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 13:43:02 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
Message-ID: <BF110DD2.228F1%michael@michaelbutler.com>


Michael Butler's Blog

http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html


From johnlenonomusic at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 12:11:57 2005
From: johnlenonomusic at yahoo.com (Gibson Vendettuoli)
Date: Sat Jul 30 13:43:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Ted Neeley update
Message-ID: <20050730191157.43326.qmail@web32113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All HAIR tribers who've been looking out for this JCS veteran, I'll bet you can't wait to see him
in what's next!

A good deal of you will remember Ted Neeley. He sang with the Teddy Neeley Five and had his own
album on Capitol Records in 1966. In 1968 or so, he was Claude in the Los Angeles production of
HAIR, and I am told he also played the role in New York. From there, he went on to JESUS CHRIST
SUPERSTAR as a Jesus understudy, and after taking the title role in the Los Angeles cast, he did a
run with a concert version of the Who's TOMMY and then did the JCS film for which he is now famed.
He did a few other runs of JCS in the 70s, but he was mainly known for TV and films (in particular
his appearance on STARSKY AND HUTCH in a three-part episode, not to mention his composition and
performance of the theme song for HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN, his appearance in the abandoned NBC pilot
McCLAREN'S RIDERS, his role as Curley in OF MICE AND MEN with Robert Blake, etc.). He also did a
seven-year national tour of JCS which grossed over $100 million, running from 1992 to 1998. Well,
he's not under a rock, and he's coming back looking for a place to play!

He just finished playing Lucky in WAITING FOR GODOT at the Rubicon Theatre Company BeckettFest in
California, and soon, he'll be off to play the lead role in a national tour of MAN OF LA MANCHA!
This should go well. In the past, he has also veered into playing a convict in MURDER IN THE
FIRST, and the title role of the eponymous Mad Monk in RASPUTIN: MIRACLES LIE IN THE EYE OF THE
BEHOLDER (also soon to have a premiere in Philadelphia at the Forrest Theatre, maybe with Ted,
featuring the Bolshoi Ballet!). Also soon to come is a reunion world tour of JCS featuring him as
Jesus to begin at the Vatican. Carl Anderson planned it before his death, and it will soon come to
pass.

Mr. Butler, I recall you asked me awhile back if I had Ted Neeley's e-mail address. I regretted
telling you that I did not have that information. Well, in case you don't know it now, I know
someone who does. Her name is Cindi and she has kept in contact with Ted for a while. Her e-mail
address is cverbelun@core.com if you wish to contact Ted.

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From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 14:01:24 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Sat Jul 30 14:03:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Ted Neeley update
In-Reply-To: <20050730191157.43326.qmail@web32113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050730210124.45939.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello Gibson,
 
Thanks for the update on Ted. I haven't seen him since around 1979 when we used to play softball in North Hollywood with several other Hair alumni. He's a great talent and an even nicer person.
 
Love ~ Jonathon

Gibson Vendettuoli <johnlenonomusic@yahoo.com> wrote:
All HAIR tribers who've been looking out for this JCS veteran, I'll bet you can't wait to see him
in what's next!

A good deal of you will remember Ted Neeley. He sang with the Teddy Neeley Five and had his own
album on Capitol Records in 1966. In 1968 or so, he was Claude in the Los Angeles production of
HAIR, and I am told he also played the role in New York. From there, he went on to JESUS CHRIST
SUPERSTAR as a Jesus understudy, and after taking the title role in the Los Angeles cast, he did a
run with a concert version of the Who's TOMMY and then did the JCS film for which he is now famed.
He did a few other runs of JCS in the 70s, but he was mainly known for TV and films (in particular
his appearance on STARSKY AND HUTCH in a three-part episode, not to mention his composition and
performance of the theme song for HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN, his appearance in the abandoned NBC pilot
McCLAREN'S RIDERS, his role as Curley in OF MICE AND MEN with Robert Blake, etc.). He also did a
seven-year national tour of JCS which grossed over $100 million, running from 1992 to 1998. Well,
he's not under a rock, and he's coming back looking for a place to play!

He just finished playing Lucky in WAITING FOR GODOT at the Rubicon Theatre Company BeckettFest in
California, and soon, he'll be off to play the lead role in a national tour of MAN OF LA MANCHA!
This should go well. In the past, he has also veered into playing a convict in MURDER IN THE
FIRST, and the title role of the eponymous Mad Monk in RASPUTIN: MIRACLES LIE IN THE EYE OF THE
BEHOLDER (also soon to have a premiere in Philadelphia at the Forrest Theatre, maybe with Ted,
featuring the Bolshoi Ballet!). Also soon to come is a reunion world tour of JCS featuring him as
Jesus to begin at the Vatican. Carl Anderson planned it before his death, and it will soon come to
pass.

Mr. Butler, I recall you asked me awhile back if I had Ted Neeley's e-mail address. I regretted
telling you that I did not have that information. Well, in case you don't know it now, I know
someone who does. Her name is Cindi and she has kept in contact with Ted for a while. Her e-mail
address is cverbelun@core.com if you wish to contact Ted.

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From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 14:17:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Ted Neeley update
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Thank you.
MB

> All HAIR tribers who've been looking out for this JCS veteran, I'll bet you
> can't wait to see him
> in what's next!
> 
> A good deal of you will remember Ted Neeley. He sang with the Teddy Neeley
> Five and had his own
> album on Capitol Records in 1966. In 1968 or so, he was Claude in the Los
> Angeles production of
> HAIR, and I am told he also played the role in New York. From there, he went
> on to JESUS CHRIST
> SUPERSTAR as a Jesus understudy, and after taking the title role in the Los
> Angeles cast, he did a
> run with a concert version of the Who's TOMMY and then did the JCS film for
> which he is now famed.
> He did a few other runs of JCS in the 70s, but he was mainly known for TV and
> films (in particular
> his appearance on STARSKY AND HUTCH in a three-part episode, not to mention
> his composition and
> performance of the theme song for HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN, his appearance in the
> abandoned NBC pilot
> McCLAREN'S RIDERS, his role as Curley in OF MICE AND MEN with Robert Blake,
> etc.). He also did a
> seven-year national tour of JCS which grossed over $100 million, running from
> 1992 to 1998. Well,
> he's not under a rock, and he's coming back looking for a place to play!
> 
> He just finished playing Lucky in WAITING FOR GODOT at the Rubicon Theatre
> Company BeckettFest in
> California, and soon, he'll be off to play the lead role in a national tour of
> MAN OF LA MANCHA!
> This should go well. In the past, he has also veered into playing a convict in
> MURDER IN THE
> FIRST, and the title role of the eponymous Mad Monk in RASPUTIN: MIRACLES LIE
> IN THE EYE OF THE
> BEHOLDER (also soon to have a premiere in Philadelphia at the Forrest Theatre,
> maybe with Ted,
> featuring the Bolshoi Ballet!). Also soon to come is a reunion world tour of
> JCS featuring him as
> Jesus to begin at the Vatican. Carl Anderson planned it before his death, and
> it will soon come to
> pass.
> 
> Mr. Butler, I recall you asked me awhile back if I had Ted Neeley's e-mail
> address. I regretted
> telling you that I did not have that information. Well, in case you don't know
> it now, I know
> someone who does. Her name is Cindi and she has kept in contact with Ted for a
> while. Her e-mail
> address is cverbelun@core.com if you wish to contact Ted.
> 
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Jul 30 15:49:13 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Sat Jul 30 15:51:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
References: <BF110DD2.228F1%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c59558$e8b98460$8a03ca44@CowBox>

Michael

I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.

Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help keep our 
memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there was 
real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept 10th, & 
we need our
Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)

My love forever
Robin



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT


>
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Jul 30 15:59:31 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:01:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Ted Neeley update
References: <20050730210124.45939.qmail@web53402.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001701c5955a$59126460$8a03ca44@CowBox>

I could not agree with you more about Jonathon, his album titled "Teddy Neeley 1974 A.D." has some masterful material on it. He does a version of John Lennon's "Mother" that is mind blowing.

Love forever
Robin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jonathon Johnson 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Ted Neeley update


  Hello Gibson,

  Thanks for the update on Ted. I haven't seen him since around 1979 when we used to play softball in North Hollywood with several other Hair alumni. He's a great talent and an even nicer person.

  Love ~ Jonathon

  Gibson Vendettuoli <johnlenonomusic@yahoo.com> wrote:
    All HAIR tribers who've been looking out for this JCS veteran, I'll bet you can't wait to see him
    in what's next!

    A good deal of you will remember Ted Neeley. He sang with the Teddy Neeley Five and had his own
    album on Capitol Records in 1966. In 1968 or so, he was Claude in the Los Angeles production of
    HAIR, and I am told he also played the role in New York. From there, he went on to JESUS CHRIST
    SUPERSTAR as a Jesus understudy, and after taking the title role in the Los Angeles cast, he did a
    run with a concert version of the Who's TOMMY and then did the JCS film for which he is now famed.
    He did a few other runs of JCS in the 70s, but he was mainly known for TV and films (in particular
    his appearance on STARSKY AND HUTCH in a three-part episode, not to mention his composition and
    performance of the theme song for HIGHWAY TO HEAVEN, his appear ance in the abandoned NBC pilot
    McCLAREN'S RIDERS, his role as Curley in OF MICE AND MEN with Robert Blake, etc.). He also did a
    seven-year national tour of JCS which grossed over $100 million, running from 1992 to 1998. Well,
    he's not under a rock, and he's coming back looking for a place to play!

    He just finished playing Lucky in WAITING FOR GODOT at the Rubicon Theatre Company BeckettFest in
    California, and soon, he'll be off to play the lead role in a national tour of MAN OF LA MANCHA!
    This should go well. In the past, he has also veered into playing a convict in MURDER IN THE
    FIRST, and the title role of the eponymous Mad Monk in RASPUTIN: MIRACLES LIE IN THE EYE OF THE
    BEHOLDER (also soon to have a premiere in Philadelphia at the Forrest Theatre, maybe with Ted,
    featuring the Bolshoi Ballet!). Also soon to come is a reunion world tour of JCS featuring him as
    Jesus to begin at the Vatican. Carl Anderson planned it before his death, and it will soon come to
    pass.

    Mr. Butler, I recall you asked me awhile back if I had Ted Neeley's e-mail address. I regretted
    telling you that I did not have that information. Well, in case you don't know it now, I know
    someone who does. Her name is Cindi and she has kept in contact with Ted for a while. Her e-mail
    address is cverbelun@core.com if you wish to contact Ted.

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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 16:18:15 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:20:41 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 13, Issue 32
In-Reply-To: <20050730193459.82412.qmail@web41105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050730231815.20418.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks Amy... and no kidding.. let the red states fight their wars in their country, and let us blue states live in peace. Of course it's all a dream, a few key strokes of someones frustration with the world we live in.. but man, it would be nice.
JIM

Amy Kazan <lilacamy11@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jim, I loved that red states forwards!:) Wish it could
happen.....

(and it was certainly not off-topic, but as you said,
right on!)

-amy



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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 30 16:27:42 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:30:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <BF110DD2.228F1%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20050730232742.47767.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com>

Michael.. Hope you feel better soon man, And I have to agree.. The Beatles are a great church. I don't know any other band in the history of music that can give you such a feeling of warmth that makes you smile with your whole body. A few years behind many of you.. I am 43 (on Sept. 10th) but I can vividly remember all that was good about the 60's. I know that there were many bad things as well, but at the age I was living through at that time, I was sheltered from the war and the politics. I do remember.. Peace, Love, Long Hair, Brightly colored clothes, Flower Power, Love in's, Bra burning and all the wonderfull music and vibes around the music. And listening to the Beatles brings it all back to me as well. Again.. Get well man. JIM

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 16:46:28 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:48:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <000f01c59558$e8b98460$8a03ca44@CowBox>
Message-ID: <BF115F64.22947%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks so much Love Michael

> Michael
> 
> I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.
> 
> Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help keep our
> memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there was
> real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept 10th, &
> we need our
> Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)
> 
> My love forever
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
> 
> 
>> 
>> Michael Butler's Blog
>> 
>> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
>> 
>> 
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Jul 30 16:50:12 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:52:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
References: <BF115F64.22947%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <000601c59561$6d78d950$6e436c42@hotprojects>

feel better michael
sorry youre feeling poorly
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT


> Thanks so much Love Michael
>
> > Michael
> >
> > I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.
> >
> > Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help keep
our
> > memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there was
> > real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept
10th, &
> > we need our
> > Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)
> >
> > My love forever
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> > To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
> > Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Michael Butler's Blog
> >>
> >> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Mb-hair mailing list
> >> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 16:50:24 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 16:52:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <20050730232742.47767.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BF116050.2294B%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks
XO Michael

> Michael.. Hope you feel better soon man, And I have to agree.. The Beatles are
> a great church. I don't know any other band in the history of music that can
> give you such a feeling of warmth that makes you smile with your whole body. A
> few years behind many of you.. I am 43 (on Sept. 10th) but I can vividly
> remember all that was good about the 60's. I know that there were many bad
> things as well, but at the age I was living through at that time, I was
> sheltered from the war and the politics. I do remember.. Peace, Love, Long
> Hair, Brightly colored clothes, Flower Power, Love in's, Bra burning and all
> the wonderfull music and vibes around the music. And listening to the Beatles
> brings it all back to me as well. Again.. Get well man. JIM
> 
> Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:
> Michael Butler's Blog
> 
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 16:59:23 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 17:02:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <000601c59561$6d78d950$6e436c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <BF11626B.22951%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Richard,
Thanks
M

> feel better michael
> sorry youre feeling poorly
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
> 
> 
>> Thanks so much Love Michael
>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.
>>> 
>>> Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help keep
> our
>>> memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there was
>>> real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept
> 10th, &
>>> we need our
>>> Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)
>>> 
>>> My love forever
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>> To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
>>> Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Butler's Blog
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From cpreston2 at tds.net  Sat Jul 30 20:44:39 2005
From: cpreston2 at tds.net (Charles Preston)
Date: Sat Jul 30 20:47:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
References: <BF11626B.22951%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <005501c59582$2e329080$0400a8c0@CHARLES>


Michael
I know you will be better very soon .
Peace, Much Love ~~Charles~~

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT


> Richard,
> Thanks
> M
>
>> feel better michael
>> sorry youre feeling poorly
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>> To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>>
>>
>>> Thanks so much Love Michael
>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.
>>>>
>>>> Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help 
>>>> keep
>> our
>>>> memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there 
>>>> was
>>>> real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept
>> 10th, &
>>>> we need our
>>>> Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)
>>>>
>>>> My love forever
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>>> To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
>>>> Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Butler's Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Jul 30 21:06:04 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Jul 30 21:08:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <005501c59582$2e329080$0400a8c0@CHARLES>
Message-ID: <BF119C3C.22970%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks
XO M

> 
> Michael
> I know you will be better very soon .
> Peace, Much Love ~~Charles~~
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
> 
> 
>> Richard,
>> Thanks
>> M
>> 
>>> feel better michael
>>> sorry youre feeling poorly
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>> To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much Love Michael
>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope you are feeling stonger, you are always in my prayers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank God for the Beatles & the rest of the wonderful music to help
>>>>> keep
>>> our
>>>>> memories of the 60's constantly alive & vivid when we all felt there
>>>>> was
>>>>> real hope. Stay strong Michael we all have a big date to party Sept
>>> 10th, &
>>>>> we need our
>>>>> Silver Indian there to guide us all through the evening. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> My love forever
>>>>> Robin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>>>> To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 1:58 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael Butler's Blog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Mb-hair mailing list
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>>>>> 
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sun Jul 31 11:53:47 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Jul 31 11:56:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Many Faces of John Lennon: Black, White,
	Male, Female
Message-ID: <20050731185347.2734911F7E5@lax-gw07.mroute.net>

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The Many Faces of John Lennon: Black, White, Male, Female
By ALLAN KOZINN
With the blessing of Yoko Ono, a new Broadway show explores the solo work of John Lennon.
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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 31 12:11:22 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Sun Jul 31 12:13:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <BF119C3C.22970%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F25755725A5BA5D9AC27D28ADC00@phx.gbl>

Dear Michael,

I wish my magic wand was working, to make you feel better!

I thought of you this past weekend when I was at the museum of the American 
Indian, in D.C.~ it was packed and the exhibits were beautiful and 
inspiring!!
There is so much good in the world too, and you are so well loved.
Have someone make you a bowl of chicken soup with crushed ritz crackers, and 
gingerale...and watch the movie AMELIE.  Everything will be better.

Take good care!
Peace,
Katie


  "O joy! that in our embers
   Is something that doth live,
That Nature yet remebers
What was so fugitive!
The thought of our past years in me doth breed
Perpetual benediction: not indeed
For that which is most worthy to be blest;
Delight and liberty, the simple creed
Of Childhood, whether busy or at rest,
With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:-
  Not for these I raise
  The song of thanks and praise;
But for those obstinate questionings
Of sense and outward things,
Fallings from us, vanishings;
Blank misgivings of a Creature
Moving about in worlds not realized,
High instincts before which our mortal Nature
Did tremble like a guilty Thing surprised:
  But for those first affections,
  Those shadowy recollections,
Which, be they what they may,
Are yet the fountain light of all our ay,
Are yet a master light of all our seeing;
  Uphold us cherish, and have power to make
Our noisy years seem moments in the being
Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,
  To perish never;
Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavor,
  Nor Man nor Boy,
Nor all that is at enmity with joy,
Can utterly abolish or destroy!
  Hence in a season of calm weather
  Though inland far we be,
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
  Which brought us hither,
  Can in a moment travel thither,
And see the Children sport upon the shore,
And hear themighty waters rolling evermore."

- Ode, William Wordsworth


ALOHA NUI LOA!


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Jul 31 12:32:02 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Jul 31 12:34:31 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F25755725A5BA5D9AC27D28ADC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BF127542.229AB%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Katie,

Thanks for your thoughts. I loved that movie. Watched at home last night
'The Merchant of Venice' w/Al Pacino and Jeremy Irons-terrific.

XO M
-- "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within
the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and
always so when it violates the rights of the individual."

Thomas Jefferson



> Dear Michael,
> 
> I wish my magic wand was working, to make you feel better!
> 
> I thought of you this past weekend when I was at the museum of the American
> Indian, in D.C.~ it was packed and the exhibits were beautiful and
> inspiring!!
> There is so much good in the world too, and you are so well loved.
> Have someone make you a bowl of chicken soup with crushed ritz crackers, and
> gingerale...and watch the movie AMELIE.  Everything will be better.
> 
> Take good care!
> Peace,
> Katie
> 
> 
> "O joy! that in our embers
>  Is something that doth live,
> That Nature yet remebers
> What was so fugitive!
> The thought of our past years in me doth breed
> Perpetual benediction: not indeed
> For that which is most worthy to be blest;
> Delight and liberty, the simple creed
> Of Childhood, whether busy or at rest,
> With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:-
> Not for these I raise
> The song of thanks and praise;
> But for those obstinate questionings
> Of sense and outward things,
> Fallings from us, vanishings;
> Blank misgivings of a Creature
> Moving about in worlds not realized,
> High instincts before which our mortal Nature
> Did tremble like a guilty Thing surprised:
> But for those first affections,
> Those shadowy recollections,
> Which, be they what they may,
> Are yet the fountain light of all our ay,
> Are yet a master light of all our seeing;
> Uphold us cherish, and have power to make
> Our noisy years seem moments in the being
> Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,
> To perish never;
> Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavor,
> Nor Man nor Boy,
> Nor all that is at enmity with joy,
> Can utterly abolish or destroy!
> Hence in a season of calm weather
> Though inland far we be,
> Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
> Which brought us hither,
> Can in a moment travel thither,
> And see the Children sport upon the shore,
> And hear themighty waters rolling evermore."
> 
> - Ode, William Wordsworth
> 
> 
> ALOHA NUI LOA!
> 
> 
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Sun Jul 31 18:51:54 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sun Jul 31 18:54:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: LIFE'S TOO SHORT
References: <200507311900.j6VJ0Ak9009333@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <002501c5963b$97dce440$6401a8c0@Leo>

Ya know Michael I'm with you all the way here. Thinking back to those days 
always illicits some sort of deep feeling inside my soul. Those memories 
will always be with us. Take good care of yourself cuz, as Robin said, we 
gotta date for a HAIR jamboree!

PEACE,
Leo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
 Subject: [Mb-hair] LIFE'S TOO SHORT
>
>
> Michael Butler's Blog
>
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html


From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 22:10:23 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Sun Jul 31 22:12:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: The Many Faces of John Lennon: Black, White,
	Male, Female
In-Reply-To: <20050731185347.2734911F7E5@lax-gw07.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <20050801051024.15078.qmail@web54210.mail.yahoo.com>

Has anybody seen this yet? It sounds interesting.. A huge Lennon fan, I wonder which 50 percent I would be one of. JIM


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The Many Faces of John Lennon: Black, White, Male, Female 
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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 31 22:23:15 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Sun Jul 31 22:25:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair is everywhere...
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So tonight.. I took my kids.. Daughter 18 (as of yesterday) and son 15 to see Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. And some of the first words out of Depp's mouth were. "Goodmorning Starshine, The Earth says Hello." It made me smile, Hair is still everywhere.
 
The movie.. though I am very partial to the Gene Wilder, warmer portrail of Wonka, Depp's Wonka wasn't terrible and there was much about the movie that I did like. Little things that kids are not going to catch.. like when teleporting the candy bar across the room, you hear the music from, "2010 a space oddisty" and one of the ompa lompa's is actually watching it on the TV. The Candy bar then appears on the TV in place of the large icon that the apes go crazy over. there were parts reminding me of Monty Python where a building was ripped out of it's footing and places elsewhere. And I loved the dark side of Burton's humor where the robotic dolls singing the Welcome to Wonka.. catch fire and melt. later we see the burn unit for them. Again.. given the choice to pick one of the two movies to go into a vault.. Gene's got my vote but all and all , not a bad piece of work.
 
JIM

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