From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Nov  1 04:01:56 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Nov  1 04:23:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Excuse my 2 cents
References: <20051101053058.75223.qmail@web54215.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <010901c5dedd$e19a6d60$f1476c42@hotprojects>

dont feel bad james im the silver medalist for bad spelling and im a pro writer
it can be overcome
like terrets
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Pappaconstantine 
  To: MichaelDavidArian@yahoo.com ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Excuse my 2 cents


  Micheal... ?? Calm down brother.. I have opinions but I have never claimed to be the smartest kid on the block.. far from it.. but hey, thanks for pointing that out..  I am the worlds worst speller and once in awhile I do hit spell check, if I feel I might have too many misspellings.. this one was spell checked but it looked over that as it didn't know what form I was using the word.. 

  Jimmy P  (aka The worst speller)

  Michael Arian <michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com> wrote:



    Whatever the arguement is pro or con Hair or Rent it is intolerable that you write AIDS
    as"Aides is out there".I can barre a lot of theese misssspelling and idiosyncraties of
    everyone's spelling and wording but,that is akin to Reagan not saying that acronym till
    his 7th year in office.That is why Silence=Death

    "I think it is one more step to raise the public's conciseness about issues
    > that though people know about, tend to sweep under rugs like dirty little secrets.
    > Aides is out there.. War is out there.. Poverty is out there.. Hell not even out
    > there.. Right here.. I think it our jobs as human beings to make people aware that we
    > are as much opposed to these issues as others are for them.. It'll be interesting to
    > see what the movie does.." 

    Michael David Arian 
    michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
    "If you can't say something nice about someone, sit by me."







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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  1 06:06:14 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Tue Nov  1 06:14:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair]James Cagney is hot!
In-Reply-To: <007901c5de4a$d1e26af0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F12CF74889B0317DD7AE706AD6F0@phx.gbl>

I still listen to George M. Cohan~ :)

and speaking of vaudeville, I just saw a wonderful film:  MRS. HENDERSON 
PRESENTS

~I think everyone would appreciate it, and Dame Judi Dench and Bob Hoskins 
are brilliant!!!!

Have a wonderful day.
Love,
Katie


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<DIV></DIV><FONT face="Garamond, Times, Serif" color=#cc00ff><EM>ALOHA NUI 
LOA! <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif" 
width=12></EM></FONT></html>


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Nov  1 06:34:35 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Nov  1 06:42:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair]James Cagney is hot!
References: <BAY109-F12CF74889B0317DD7AE706AD6F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002701c5def1$61ee02c0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

I listen to George M Cohan music
but not the musical qua musical named George M which beat Hair for the Tony
and is never performed
Not a noteworthy or memorable show
One of the great travesties in tony history was Hair not winning
because everyone was scared shitless of it

in my opinion also why theyve never let steven schwartz win ever
because also  there is a crusty element who will never forgive Hair and
secondarily Schwartz for bringing rock and roll and in the case of Schwartz
soft rock to bdwy

this is what i think
also katie we are the vast vast exceptions

i listen to opera i am devoted and madly in love with opera

but even people my age me 47 dont listen to opera
they listen to rock and roll
and the young people listen to hip hop
and thats the deal
im a classicist myself
read dostoyevsky and aeschylus and sartre and genet and ibsen

but more people are into " 50 cent " the rapper

hope youre well katie
best of luck on your endeavors



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair]James Cagney is hot!


> I still listen to George M. Cohan~ :)
>
> and speaking of vaudeville, I just saw a wonderful film:  MRS. HENDERSON
> PRESENTS
>
> ~I think everyone would appreciate it, and Dame Judi Dench and Bob Hoskins
> are brilliant!!!!
>
> Have a wonderful day.
> Love,
> Katie
>
>
> <html><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV></DIV><FONT face="Garamond, Times, Serif" color=#cc00ff><EM>ALOHA NUI
> LOA! <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif"
> width=12></EM></FONT></html>
>
>
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 07:22:49 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 07:30:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] re david bowie
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV18D9275A80D8441FBA6CD1AB6F0@phx.gbl>

THAT is some interesting trivia Vincent... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Edwards
Sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:48:01 -0800
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] re david bowie

hi tribe nice to see david bowie mentioned some trivial info you may not
know  david auditioned for the london hair in 1968   he didint make the
tribe it would have been interesting if he had love you all vincent

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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 07:22:49 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 07:30:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] re david bowie
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV18D9275A80D8441FBA6CD1AB6F0@phx.gbl>

THAT is some interesting trivia Vincent... :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Edwards
Sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:48:01 -0800
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] re david bowie

hi tribe nice to see david bowie mentioned some trivial info you may not
know  david auditioned for the london hair in 1968   he didint make the
tribe it would have been interesting if he had love you all vincent

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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Tue Nov  1 07:38:00 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Tue Nov  1 07:46:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "Bacteria Slaves"?
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Tue, 1 Nov 2005
	07:13:50 -0800
Message-ID: <11549-43678BD8-1768@storefull-3273.bay.webtv.net>


A Nano-nano...?

;-)

Microbe and Machine Merged to Create First 'Cellborg'
http://www.livescience.com/technology/051027_cellborg_sensor.html 

From michael at intrafi.com  Tue Nov  1 07:42:51 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Tue Nov  1 07:51:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Democrats Fiddling as the World Burns
Message-ID: <20051101154251.82DF2B8091@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



-------------------------------------
Democrats Fiddling as the World Burns
http://www.alternet.org/story/27639

Bush is at the nadir of his career and the entire Republican Party is a sinking ship. Why aren't we getting more than weak slogans from the Washington Dems?
-------------------------------------

From michael at intrafi.com  Tue Nov  1 07:45:04 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Tue Nov  1 07:53:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: After the Libby Indictment,
	the Press Is Acquitting Itself
Message-ID: <20051101154504.11925B8091@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



-------------------------------------
After the Libby Indictment, the Press Is Acquitting Itself
http://www.alternet.org/story/27623

Even as the media are bypassing their own key roles in the marketing of those lies.
-------------------------------------

From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 07:56:45 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 08:05:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV13633F6AE1BC2A7D66BDA0AB6F0@phx.gbl>

Hi Richard.... On List....  :-)

Question: When you say if/when you do another production of HAiR you will put it 5 to 10 years in the future? Earlier when you mentioned you would update it I THOUGHT you meant to current time.... so just checking?? And NO I am not picking on you,  just wanted to clarify the time line.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: richard haase
Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:50:19 -0800
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent

understand i am not advancing an opinion im looking at the whole thing empiricaly scientifically as a dramaturge
not routing or not not routing ?

did you see the film yet?

thats why i say HAIR needs minor
updating i agree with the people in
england although they may or may not have pulled it off widely divergent opinion about that but if i do another production of HAIR which i hope to i will set mine five to ten years in the future but no ipods

lol


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Nov  1 09:14:55 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Nov  1 09:23:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent
References: <BAY5-DAV13633F6AE1BC2A7D66BDA0AB6F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003f01c5df07$c77313e0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

i think i would set it slightly in the future
that way it is not tied to a specific set of current events
unless of course things were to be become more dramatic etc
in the present
for example one might hypothesize the conservatives starting a future draft
etc

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent


> Hi Richard.... On List....  :-)
>
> Question: When you say if/when you do another production of HAiR you will
put it 5 to 10 years in the future? Earlier when you mentioned you would
update it I THOUGHT you meant to current time.... so just checking?? And NO
I am not picking on you,  just wanted to clarify the time line.
>
> peace,
> barbara
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard haase
> Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:50:19 -0800
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent
>
> understand i am not advancing an opinion im looking at the whole thing
empiricaly scientifically as a dramaturge
> not routing or not not routing ?
>
> did you see the film yet?
>
> thats why i say HAIR needs minor
> updating i agree with the people in
> england although they may or may not have pulled it off widely divergent
opinion about that but if i do another production of HAIR which i hope to i
will set mine five to ten years in the future but no ipods
>
> lol
>
>
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Nov  1 09:15:40 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Nov  1 09:23:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] but i would think i will not get to a production of HAIR
Message-ID: <008601c5df07$e2a4e670$f1476c42@hotprojects>

for at least five years
i have so many many projects
?
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 11:05:06 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 11:13:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV22FCDD5564C7C92D87DC0CAB6F0@phx.gbl>

Hmmn........ Very Interesting.

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: richard haase
Sent: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:14:55 -0800
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent

i think i would set it slightly in the future
that way it is not tied to a specific set of current events
unless of course things were to be become more dramatic etc
in the present
for example one might hypothesize the conservatives starting a future draft
etc

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Siomos" <barbarasiomos38@msn.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent


> Hi Richard.... On List....  :-)
>
> Question: When you say if/when you do another production of HAiR you will
put it 5 to 10 years in the future? Earlier when you mentioned you would
update it I THOUGHT you meant to current time.... so just checking?? And NO
I am not picking on you,  just wanted to clarify the time line.
>
> peace,
> barbara
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: richard haase
> Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:50:19 -0800
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Re: Hair/Rent
>
> understand i am not advancing an opinion im looking at the whole thing
empiricaly scientifically as a dramaturge
> not routing or not not routing ?
>
> did you see the film yet?
>
> thats why i say HAIR needs minor
> updating i agree with the people in
> england although they may or may not have pulled it off widely divergent
opinion about that but if i do another production of HAIR which i hope to i
will set mine five to ten years in the future but no ipods
>
> lol
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 12:34:05 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 12:48:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] 3:45pm today on Sundance channel film on 9/11
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV203B77267F862A3E49FBDBAB6F0@phx.gbl>

Our present conversation "Documentary on how Bush Administration has interpreted or changed Constitutional Protections since the Attacks of 9/11"  is a "Documentary" today on the "Sundance Channel" at 3:45pm until 5:00pm est.....

Check it out

peace,
barbara




From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Tue Nov  1 12:39:49 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Tue Nov  1 12:52:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: 3:45pm today on Sundance channel film on 9/11-RESENT
	AGAIN
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV209B0B97B4673644794848AB6F0@phx.gbl>



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Date: Wed Nov  2 09:05:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FT.com / Comment & analysis / Comment - Do not simplify
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  2 17:09:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] SOCIAL SCIENCE RESEARCH
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  2 17:11:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] please as many as want fill in the scale and send it back
	to me thanks
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  2 17:35:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Fw: Emailing: THE FREEDOM APPERCEPTION SCALE DRAFT TWO
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  2 17:35:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] THE FREEDOM APPERCEPTION SCALE DRAFT TWO
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Wed Nov  2 18:32:00 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  2 18:40:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] dear guys this is a serious piece of experimental
	forensic psychology im doing
Message-ID: <000801c5e01e$c55219e0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

at ccny and john jay in nyc
( going back for second MA in psych )
( first was in dramaturgy at NYU )

the conservative factions in the government and abroad have made certain predictions about patterns that will occur in the scale i have created
which measures an impreassure of apperceptions of freedom

I say the patterns the instrument yields will not match the government officials predictions
I have to make a preliminary written presentation by tues

I would love as many of you guys as possible 
to fill in the scale and return it by friday ish
?

you score each question T for  true ( eg agree ) or F for false ( eg dont agree )
and then 1 to 5 for the intensity of the T or F in question

then at the end it asks sex age and country of nationality
thats it

as you can see its completely anonymous
im attempting a serious piece of research here on a variety of levels

thanks

peace

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From: Reeeees at aol.com (Reeeees@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov  2 18:58:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Religious Use of Psychedelic Tea Is on Supreme Court's
	Front Burner 
Message-ID: <E1EXVAv-0002hg-U0@smtpauth02.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Good thing they have big questions to wrestle with . .  .
 
Religious Use of Psychedelic Tea Is on Supreme  Court's Front Burner
>From Associated  Press

November 2, 2005  |  Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON  ? The Supreme Court debated Tuesday whether to let a small 
congregation in New  Mexico worship with hallucinogenic tea, the first religious 
freedom dispute  under Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor  seemed skeptical of the Bush administration's 
claim that the tea can be banned,  but she may not be around to vote in the case.

About 130 members of a  Brazil-based church have been in a long-running 
dispute with federal agents who  seized their tea in 1999. The hoasca tea, which 
contains an illegal drug known  as DMT, is considered sacred to members of O 
Centro Espirita Beneficiente Uniao  do Vegetal.

The Bush administration contends the tea is not only illegal  but potentially 
dangerous.

The Supreme Court has dealt with religious  drug cases before. Justices ruled 
15 years ago that states could criminalize the  use of peyote by American 
Indians. But Congress changed the law to allow the  sacramental use of peyote in 
tribal services.

O'Connor pointed out during  Tuesday's argument that Congress changed the 
rules. She interrupted the Bush  administration lawyer in his opening statement 
and peppered him with difficult  questions. 
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Thu Nov  3 09:14:36 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Nov  3 09:22:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] SANDY AND PHILIP MICHAEL THOMAS
Message-ID: <023901c5e09a$1152c670$f1476c42@hotprojects>

the postmaster is writing me that your email box is too full
and that you have to depopulate

congrats again
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From genmgr1 at aol.com  Thu Nov  3 07:16:37 2005
From: genmgr1 at aol.com (George MacPherson)
Date: Thu Nov  3 09:29:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] An article from globeandmail.com
Message-ID: <E1EXimO-0004A8-RW@smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

George MacPherson (genmgr1@aol.com) thought you would be interested in the following article from globeandmail.com, Canada's leading source for online news: 

"L.A. team to head Toronto production of Hair" 
CanStage production to open March 30, 2006. 
<http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20051103.wxnote03-1/EmailBNStory/Entertainment/> 

 
 
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 
Get the news delivered to your inbox. Sign up for our daily News Update: 
<http://www.globeandmail.com/newsletter/> 
From wendydunaway at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  3 09:25:03 2005
From: wendydunaway at hotmail.com (wendy dunaway)
Date: Thu Nov  3 09:46:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Fwd: Brain Cramps
Message-ID: <E1EXj2C-0002TL-Cb@smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Food for not thought!
W

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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Nov  3 10:39:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] re freedom apperception scale
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on one to five scoring

one means of little intensity

five of greatest intensity
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From bev at beverlybremers.com  Thu Nov  3 14:59:43 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Thu Nov  3 15:11:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Kathy Ingraham Nixon Del Rosso
Message-ID: <20051103225943.C68FF4F6B7@ws6-5.us4.outblaze.com>

Kathy - Your show looks like it's hilarious and informative. I wish I still lived in NYC so I could see it (and you). I'll send good vibes your way.

Break a leg!!!!

Beverly




----- Original Message -----
From: Queenltc@aol.com
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Kathy Ingraham Nixon Del Rosso
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:59:35 EDT

> 
> Hi everyone-I've written a show that I'm doing at the Manhattan Theatre
> Source corner of 8th street and MacDougal (177 MacDougal) Its a small 55 seat
> theater and the show is called QueenLTC. It would be great to see some of my 
> fellow
> tribe members there. It will be running for 4 days Nov 2-5. (Wed through Sat
> ) Here is a link to the press release on line
> http://www.offoffonline.com/listings.php?id=1863 . Also here is a link to the 
> theater website
> www.theatersource.org  It is a multi media musical comedy.
> _______________________________________________
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Visit my websites:
www.beverlybremers.com
www.voicercise.net


From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  3 15:06:50 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Thu Nov  3 15:15:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] SANDY AND PHILIP MICHAEL THOMAS
In-Reply-To: <023901c5e09a$1152c670$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F22C5770F9BDDD32A551C2FB2610@phx.gbl>

Richard, Philip Michael Thomas is not a member of the list, so you will need 
to contact him a different way, as he won't see your email here.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Thu Nov  3 18:46:49 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Nov  3 18:55:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Kathy Ingraham Nixon Del Rosso
References: <20051103225943.C68FF4F6B7@ws6-5.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <00a201c5e0ea$011db3a0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

break a leg kathy
best to your project
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Kathy Ingraham Nixon Del Rosso


> Kathy - Your show looks like it's hilarious and informative. I wish I
still lived in NYC so I could see it (and you). I'll send good vibes your
way.
>
> Break a leg!!!!
>
> Beverly
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Queenltc@aol.com
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Kathy Ingraham Nixon Del Rosso
> Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 16:59:35 EDT
>
> >
> > Hi everyone-I've written a show that I'm doing at the Manhattan Theatre
> > Source corner of 8th street and MacDougal (177 MacDougal) Its a small 55
seat
> > theater and the show is called QueenLTC. It would be great to see some
of my
> > fellow
> > tribe members there. It will be running for 4 days Nov 2-5. (Wed through
Sat
> > ) Here is a link to the press release on line
> > http://www.offoffonline.com/listings.php?id=1863 . Also here is a link
to the
> > theater website
> > www.theatersource.org  It is a multi media musical comedy.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
>
>
>
> Visit my websites:
> www.beverlybremers.com
> www.voicercise.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Thu Nov  3 18:47:37 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Nov  3 18:56:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] SANDY AND PHILIP MICHAEL THOMAS
References: <BAY104-F22C5770F9BDDD32A551C2FB2610@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00b701c5e0ea$1f9b7ce0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

oh okay thanks nina
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] SANDY AND PHILIP MICHAEL THOMAS


> Richard, Philip Michael Thomas is not a member of the list, so you will
need
> to contact him a different way, as he won't see your email here.
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Nov  3 23:00:25 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Fri Nov  4 04:31:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "Sad Jesus"
Message-ID: <000701c5e10d$6f194a40$53bc2041@CowBox>

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From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Fri Nov  4 06:14:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "Sad Jesus 2"
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Nov  4 08:47:30 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Nov  4 08:55:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "Sad Jesus 2"
In-Reply-To: <001701c5e148$e67aa760$53bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <BF90D0A2.255C8%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks
Michael

> I think the pic my have come out to big last time I sent ,here is a smaller
> version
> 
> Love forever
> Robin
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Fri Nov  4 12:18:34 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Fri Nov  4 12:26:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: [Mb-civic] "Sad Jesus"
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV63CD43407ED689F39FC74AB600@phx.gbl>

Robin thank you for sending this... Mary is truly a masterful artist...  :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: Robin McNamara
Sent: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:00:25 -0800
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com, mb-civic@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-civic] "Sad Jesus"


Thought I would send this picture along, my sister Mary is a masterful artist & has done many wonderful paintings, she also does pencil drawings. This is one drawing that I had scanned at Kinko's to a reduced size of a much larger drawing that is now in a frame.When I first saw it, it sort of blew me away because I thought if Jesus is really real this must be about what he must be feeling when looking down at the world & the failures of us humanoids.

Love forever
Robin  






http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara


From dayton3 at rcn.com  Sat Nov  5 06:18:47 2005
From: dayton3 at rcn.com (Nina Dayton)
Date: Sat Nov  5 06:32:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: [Katrina - effective grassroots ways to help the
 people who are falling through the cracks from Katrina and Rita]
Message-ID: <436CBF47.4020407@rcn.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Katrina - effective grassroots ways to help the people who 
are falling through the cracks from Katrina and Rita
Date: 	Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:20:18 -0500
From: 	Barbara <barbaradiamond@rcn.com>
To: 	





Effective grassroots efforts to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf Coast:

Please forward these sites to everyone you know! 
And please let me know if you have others that should be added to this list


Community Labor United - CLU: a coalition of community groups that for 9 years
has worked in what are now the hardest-hit neighborhoods of New Orleans and 
is calling for grassroots oversight of the relief process, while 
federal funds are funneled into  rebuilding casinos, hotels, 
chemical plants, etc. Go to http://cluonline.live.radicaldesigns.org/?page_id=3
or make checks out to People's Hurricane Relief Fund
Vanguard Public Foundation
383 Rhode Island St, Ste 301
San Francisco, CA 94103

The Peace development Fund has set up a Gulf Coast Renewal Fund to 
support communties and organizations in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, 
and now east Texas with a major focus on ensuring that the voices of 
those most impacted are at the table when rebuilding decisions are made. 
To donate, visit  http://www.peacedevelopmentfund.org/donors/-donor.htm 
(a secure donation site) or contact Ray Santiago at 510-435-8130 or 
ray@peacefund.org <mailto:ray@peacefund.org>.  Checks earmarked for the 
Gulf Coast Renewal Fund should be made out to the Peace Development Fund 
and mailed to:
Peace Development Fund
ATTN:  Gulf Coast Renewal Fund
PO Box 1280
Amherst, MA 01004

The Katrina Information Network (KIN) serves as an information and 
ACTION clearinghouse with voices and organizations from the communities 
that have been devastated by Katrina. They stand for Real Relief and A 
Just Recovery. Their site is:
www.KatrinaAction.org 

Veterans for Peace are collecting and delivering things like baby items, 
water, cleaning supplies,canned goods and getting them to the people who 
need them in the New Orleans area. 
They also need volunteers. Go to http://www.vfproadtrips.org/
or send donations at 
Saving Our Selves (SOS)
Mobile Baptist Sunlight District Auditorium
809 Seminary St
Pritchard, AL 36610
251-377-9691

These are recommended by Van Jones, national executive director of the 
Ella Baker Center for Human Rights(he also recommends CLU above):
Mississippi Workers Center at http://www.msworkerscenter.org/
Southern Empowerment Project at http://www.southernempowerment.org/index.html.
Project South at http://www.projectsouth.org/upcoming_events/abandonment.htm
He says, "Let's insist that New Orleans be rebuilt - under the direction of those 
who have lived there for generations, not at the behest of big developers or 
carpet-bagging profiteers like Halliburton."


Recommended by Arthur Waskow of The Shalom Center(he also recommends CLU above):
ACORN and Tides Foundation Rapid Response Fund are working together to help rebuild the
Gulf region at http://www.tidesfoundation.org/RR_0905.cfm
Louisiana Environmental Network http://www.leanweb.org 
A Hurricane Katrina Recovery and Redevopment Fund through 
http://www.shefafund.org/contribute.asp


also go to http://katrina.mayfirst.org/ for more info on grassroots, 
low income, people of color led hurrican relief organizations.


Louisiana Local Aid Project (LLAP) of Western Mass
To relieve and support rural towns in Western Louisiana,
checks can be made out to Katrina Fund, Hibernia National Bank, 919 Main St, 
Elton,LA 70532. This is a local effort of Western Massachusetts residents 
to help small towns in Western Louisiana that have taken in large numbers 
of evacuees from Katrina. Elaine Ulman of W Mass has relatives living in 
this area and is in direct contact with what the schools and evacuees need. 
Western Mass is also sending down volunteers to help. 
Contacts are Elaine Ulman at lenahamp@earthlink.net and Pastor Jake Crowell, 
First Baptist Church, Elton, LA, 337-584-2341


We've got to rebuild New Orleans and the Gulf coast from the bottom up 
because Halliburton 
and FEMA are doing it top down. Just imagine - Karl Rove is in charge of 
this reconstruction! See the Common Dreams article (from the Washington Times) 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0930-07.htm "HUD Chief Foresees a 'Whiter' 
Big Easy". This is just the tip of the iceberg regarding what the Bush administration 
has in store for New Orleans and the Gulf Area. bThere's a lot at stake here.








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From dayton3 at rcn.com  Sat Nov  5 06:20:32 2005
From: dayton3 at rcn.com (Nina Dayton)
Date: Sat Nov  5 06:33:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: Katrina - ways to help bring back the music to New
	Orleans]
Message-ID: <436CBFB0.60302@rcn.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Katrina - ways to help bring back the music to New Orleans
Date: 	Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:17:11 -0500
From: 	Barbara <barbaradiamond@rcn.com>
To: 	


Help Bring Back the Music:


Katrina Piano Fund John "Klondike" Koehler of Klondike Sound in Greenfield, Mass. 
has been coordinating sound for the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival for 
the past 28 years and has started a fund to raise money to put 
instruments in the hands of musicians quickly and effectively. Go to 
http://www.katrinaspianofund.org to give or mail funds to: Katrina's Piano Fund, 
Greenfield Savings Bank, Attn Alexa, 400 Main St., PO Box 1537, Greenfield, MA 
01302

Tipitina's Foundation is fighting to save and rebuild the New Orleans 
music community. Go to http://www.tipsevents.com/foundation/default.asp 
to read and donate or send checks to them at 1251 North Ardenwood Dr, 
Baton Rouge, LA 70806. They have a direct line to musicians needing 
clothing, housing, gigs, medical help, money.  You'll see things like 
"Bob French needs a drum set ASAP"  and "Big Chief Peppy Eugene and his 
wife Wanda and their 2 young children need a place to live in Baton 
Rouge"  listed on their site.

WWOZ  Become a member of New Orleans's listener supported jazz and 
heritage FM station in exile (from  blues to jazz, cajun and gospel)
 and help WWOZ rebuild. Go to http://www.wwoz.org/membership.php 
or send checks to WWOZ, 8733 Siegen Lane #412, Baton Rouge, LA 70810

Give to The New Orleans Musician's Relief Fund at 
http://www.nomrf.org/makeadonation.html, another direct source to New 
Orleans musicians in need or send checks to NOMRF, 218 Rebecca Lane, Normal,
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sat Nov  5 14:19:53 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sat Nov  5 14:28:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Rebuilding a New New Orleans
Message-ID: <20051105221953.CC9D5B8093@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



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Rebuilding a New New Orleans
http://www.alternet.org/story/27833

A collection of environmental, political, and academic leaders share their unique visions for reconstructing the Big Easy post-Katrina.
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From dayton3 at rcn.com  Sun Nov  6 06:28:48 2005
From: dayton3 at rcn.com (Nina Dayton)
Date: Sun Nov  6 06:40:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Singer Williams
Message-ID: <436E1320.6070000@rcn.com>

Marti Williams Thomas, daughter of Singer Williams, is looking to get in 
touch with people who knew her father when he was in Hair in NYC 
1969/1970. Singer is alive and well, and would love to hear from people 
he knew back in his Hair days. You can send Marti and Singer email at 
martit@gracestl.org and they would also love copies of any photos anyone 
might that include Singer in them (I would love copies of those too 
folks...:-)
Nina


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Nov  6 10:27:29 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Nov  6 12:40:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Want To Express It Again
Message-ID: <BF938B11.25679%michael@michaelbutler.com>


Michael Butler's Blog

http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html

http://www.michaelbutler.com


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Nov  6 12:22:13 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Nov  6 12:40:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Want To Express It Again
In-Reply-To: <20051106194935.60672.qmail@web50605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BF93A5F5.25698%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Kevin,
Thanks so much. I am aware but it is a software problem. I am working to
replace with a new application.
Peace and Love,
Michael

> Michael, As usual you are dead on the target of expressing my feelings too.  I
> love your blogs and I hope a lot of people get a chance to read them.
> I noticed some font problems in your recent blog and thought I should let you
> know of it. I have included a screen shot of what I was seeing.
> Love and Peace from Port Townsend Wa.
> Kevin Mason 
> 
> Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:
> 
> Michael Butler's Blog
> 
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/mbblog.html
> 
> http://www.michaelbutler.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Artistic Web Design from Port Townsend Wa.
> http://VictorianWorkshop.com
> Digital Photo Manipulation,  Advertising,  Web Slideshows,
> Photoshop CS, Illustrator CS, Dreamweaver Mx, Flash Mx, Gif Animation
> kevin@alkiave.com
> 
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From dreamgrifter at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  6 12:55:15 2005
From: dreamgrifter at yahoo.com (d st.b)
Date: Mon Nov  7 08:43:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] from Dan 
Message-ID: <E1EZ9xH-0003lv-Nc@smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Michael-
   Thank you always for your words, truths, and empowerment.  I have teetered on the edge of a revolution for almost as long as I can remember.  I have dreamt about it since I was in 10th grade, have read and studied and tried to prepare myself for it in my teens.  Took stabs at small examples of it while at West Point.  Always leading, always driving others along with me.  I am trying to calm my spirit and maybe my calling by touching upon it in my writings, through my words.  But it is a war that is wrought continuously within my soul.  I know that it must happen again.  We need a change.  We are so lacking in concern for the planet, so stale with our spirituality and our basic human qualities of love, compassion, truth, motivation, desire for learning, tending to of humanity and the planet and ourselves, that there has to be something.  There definitely has to be something.  
   And it hurts my brain... always!!  I'm trying to speak to the children through all my children's books and shows, hoping to nip the next wave of buds, hoping to rip the forced spoon of society's feeding out of their mouths and instead offer them something sweeter.  
    This world is becoming a prison state, led by us, and it must be changed.
 
Thank you-
Dan 

		
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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  7 09:06:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] wild extrapolations of the bird flu?
Message-ID: <E1EZAJ7-0003SU-VX@smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

 
According to the  Daily Mail 3/11/05 Hospital blunders kill 34,000 in a year. 
Now I would call  that a pandemic, not 60 reported deaths from Bird flu. 
Which is more  lethal?
 
_http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_arti
cle_id=367462&in_page_id=1774_ 
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=367462&in_page_id=1774)  
___________________________________________
This is the adjuvant in Chiron's avian flu vaccine -  squalene (MF59)  -
SQUALENE implicated in Gulf War Illness in Anthrax Vaccine
OH  MAN!

See more on squalene in Anthrax Vaccine
_www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm_ 
(http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm) 
_www.chiroweb.com/archives/18/24/06.html_ 
(http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/18/24/06.html) 
_www.militarycorruption.com/squalene.htm_ 
(http://www.militarycorruption.com/squalene.htm) 
_http://www.avip2001.net/OfficialDocuments_files/MOD_Squalene.htm_ 
(http://www.avip2001.net/OfficialDocuments_files/MOD_Squalene.htm) 
_www.anthraxadeadlyshotinthedark.com_ 
(http://www.anthraxadeadlyshotinthedark.com/) 

_http://birdfluhype.com/adjuvants.html_ 
(http://birdfluhype.com/adjuvants.html) 

_http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VKN-4C7B6GF-3&_cov
erDate=06%2F302F2004&_alid=179386072&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=612
7&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e43a
9f72c833bee3addb24b8bc93c088_ 
(http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VKN-4C7B6GF-3&_coverDate=06/302F2004&_alid=179386072&_rdoc=1&_fmt=
&_orig=search&_qd=1&_cdi=6127&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlV
ersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e43a9f72c833bee3addb24b8bc93c088) 

_______________________________________

Pretext for more Martial Law: Bird  Flu
_http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/100605Chin/100605chin.html_ 
(http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/100605Chin/100605chin.html) 

by Larry  Chin
Online Journal  Associate Editor

October 6, 2005?George  W. Bush and his administration announced yesterday 
that they intend to _dispatch federal troops to enforce quarantines_ 
(http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/05/bush.reax/)  in the event of an  alleged bird 
flu outbreak, raising immediate prospect that in the not-distant  future, 
soldiers will cordon off American communities suspected of flu  outbreaks. 

This followed a closed-door session in which the US Congress was 
_propagandized_ 
(http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/05/MNG9NF2MTL1.DTL&hw=bird+flu&sn=001&sc=1000)  about a bird flu  pandemic scenario by the Bush 
administration's Health and Human Services  secretary, Michael Leavitt. This 
session "scared the hell" out of Senator Harry  Reid, and other congressional 
leaders, who are not only poised to grant Bush  authority to call in troops when 
he chooses, but are in the process of  introducing a new bill calling for the 
creation of a "flu pandemic coordinator"  within the White House?placing yet 
more power directly into the hands of Bush  and future presidents.  
In  response, _Dr. Irwin Redlener_ 
(http://edition.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/05/bush.reax/) , associate dean of Columbia  University's Mailman School of 
Public Health and director of its National Center  for Disaster Preparedness, 
blasted Bush's "extraordinarily Draconian measure,"  and said it plainly: 
"The translation of this is martial law in the United  States." 
The  United States has been under martial law since the Bush administration  
orchestrated 9/11. Having sown fear throughout the world, further crippling 
the  minds of (already deluded) masses, the administration has responded to 
calls to  be "made safe" from "terrorists" with the blueprint for martial law and 
a full  US police state, the USA PATRIOT Act, and increasing militarization 
and  worldwide war and terrorism. 
If  the unprecedented federal _militarization_ 
(http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20050924&articleId=991)  of New Orleans 
and  the Gulf states did not provided ample enough grotesque proof that the 
Bush  administration intends to seize every opportunity to impose a police state 
under  any pretext?natural and real, as well as manufactured?the writing on 
the wall is  now nightmarishly clear.  
A _mushrooming energy crisis_ 
(http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/100505_world_stories.shtml)  has  arrived. Bush's war-for-oil operations are 
failing. The US economy is on the  brink of tipping over.  
The  Bush administration must now reach even deeper, more often, into its 
criminal  trick bag, for new pretexts and justifications for its deepening 
criminal  actions and "extraordinary Draconian measures." More fake "terrorism." 
More  force (in response to resistance and opposition). More Supreme Court  
appointments ready to erase what is left of the Constitution and the Bill of  
Rights. 
More manufactured pandemics. More militarization, more guns, coming to a  
neighborhood near you. 
This  administration, and the compliant and complicit US Congress that bows 
to its  every lie and whim, knows that the coming post-Peak oil world will 
necessitate a  police state, in order to preserve the hides?and loot?of its own  
elites. 
_______________________________________ 
S 1873: Pandemic Vaccine Bill To Put Drug Firms Beyond Reach Of  Law


_http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/10/26/s_1873_pandemic_vaccine_bill_
to_put_drug_firms_beyond_reach_of_law.htm_ 
(http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2005/10/26/s_1873_pandemic_vaccine_bill_to_put_drug_firms_beyond_reach_of_l
aw.htm) 
_____________________________________________
 
Dead Microbiologists Linked
To  Ethno-Specific BioWeapons
 
_http://www.rense.com/general40/dead.htm_ 
(http://www.rense.com/general40/dead.htm) 
_________________________________________
SARS Confirmed As 
Manmade -  Possible BioWeapon
 
_http://rense.com/general37/manmade.htm_ 
(http://rense.com/general37/manmade.htm) 
_________________________________________
 
 
Remember the suspiciously dead microbiologists?


_http://www.google.com/search?q=dead+microbiologists_ 
(http://www.google.com/search?q=dead+microbiologists) 
_________________________________________
 
Flu Plan Omits Compensation


_http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-vaccines4nov04,1,4559996.story?coll=la-
headlines-business_ 
(http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-vaccines4nov04,1,4559996.story?coll=la-headlines-business) 
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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  7 09:08:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] UPDATED STATISTICS FOR CANADA
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Guns & Doctors  Stats



Doctors:

The number of doctors  in Canada is 700,000. 


Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are  120,000. 


Accidental deaths per physician is  17.14%

*Statistics courtesy of the Canadian  Dept of health and Human Resources

Guns:

The number of guns owned in  Canada is 80,000,000 ( yes that's 80 million)


The number of accidental  gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1500.


The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is  0.001875%.

*Statistics  courtesy of the RCMP

So statistically, doctors are approximately 9000 times  more dangerous than 
gun owners.

Remember, guns don't kill people, doctors do.

FACT: 
NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN AND MAY NOT APPROVE OF  THEM, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS 
AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

Please alert all your  friends to this alarming threat. 
We must ban doctors before this  gets  completely out of hand.

Out of concern for the  public at large, I have withheld statistics on 
lawyers for fear the shock  would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.  


Then we would  be in real trouble.
 
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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  7 09:08:56 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] VOLUNTEERING CAN BE DANGEROUS
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REMEMBER HOW IF YOU NEEDED A LITTLE EXTRA CASH YOU COULD VOLUNTEER FOR A  
STUDY IN COLLEGE.  WITH BIG PHARMA IT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE DANGEROUS IN  THEIR 
'RUSH' TO MARKET THESE DAYS.    WARN THOSE YOU CARE  ABOUT!


_http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1273115_ 
(http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1273115) 
ABCNews

How  Safe Are Drug Trials for Participants?
Bloomberg News Investigates  Conditions for Human Guinea Pigs

Nov. 2, 2005 - - Nearly 4 million  Americans each year become human guinea 
pigs when they volunteer to be subjects  in drug trials. Universities used to 
handle most of these trials, but now  they're mostly done by private, 
profit-driven testing centers. Every year, human  testers get sick or dieduring these 
drug trials, but no one knows how many  because nobody tracks that number, 
explains GMA consumer correspondent Elisabeth  Leamy.

Gary Polsgrove, an ex-Marine, was one of those who died. He was  enrolled in 
a trial of a generic schizophrenia drug at the Fabre Research Clinic  in 
Houston.

"I think, you know, he was truly mistreated," said Nancy  Gatlin, Polsgrove's 
older sister.

Polsgrove was homeless and unemployed  when he enrolled in the study, but was 
physically healthy. He signed up to get a  bed and some cash. He was kept on 
the drug even after he developed adverse  reactions, and died of heart 
swelling after 23 days in the clinic.

IVAX,  the company that sponsored the drug trial in which Polsgrove died, 
points out  the Food and Drug Administration took no action against it.

"The consent  form . disclosed the cardiovascular risk," the company said in 
a statement.  "IVAX believes we have fully complied with all applicable rules 
and  regulations."

Almost three years after Polsgrove died, the FDA sent the  Fabre clinic a 
letter accusing it of violating the rules to conduct proper drug  trials.
Clinic owner Dr. Louis Fabre denied wrongdoing but shut down the  clinic in 
April. Fabre did not respond to ABC's request for comment.

The  FDA says the drug trial system is safe.

"We believe the system is safe .  human subject experiments always carry a 
small degree of risk," said a spokesman  for the FDA.

But Arthur Caplan, director of the University of  Pennsylvania's Center for 
Bioethics, believes drug trials are filled with  conflicts of interest.

"The ethics of clinical research has become grim,"  Caplan said. "I'm
actually frightened about it."

Bloomberg News  reports that pharmaceutical companies most often hire private 
clinics or doctors  to do their trials. The drug companies also pay private 
independent review  boards to monitor the studies.

"If you think about it, how can you trust  someone to look out for your best 
interests if the person who's paying them is  the sponsor of the study?" 
Caplan said.

Suggested reforms to the system  include giving clear explanations to
volunteers of exactly what the risks  are, as well as a public national
registry of drug trials with the results  and the participants.
____________________________________
 
Human injury, death found in drug industry  testing

[published on Sun, Nov 6, 2005]

By DAVID EVANS  davidevansbloomberg.net
MICHAEL SMITH
and LIZ WILLEN
Bloomberg  News

editor responsible for story
Jonathan Neumann   jneumann2bloomberg.net

_http://www.nwherald.com/BusinessSection/317524790534182.php_ 
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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  7 09:11:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HISTORY OF HEMP
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MOST KNOW I DO NOT FEEL THE CONGNITIVE/'WILL' SLOWING EFFECTS OF THE  'HERB'  
ARE ENERGETICALLY HEALTHY, BUT THE HISTORY WAS INTERESTING.   AT OVER 1/2 
CENTURY OLD I CONTINUE TO BE SURPIRSED BY HOW POWER CORRUPTS IN  SUCH HEAVILY 
KHARMIC WAYS. ENJOY...
 
 
 The Real Reason Hemp is  Illegal
by Doug Yurchey,  2005

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And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more  
consumed with hunger in the land.
-- Ezekiel  34/29

Where did the word 'marijuana' come  from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was 
created to tarnish the good image and  phenomenal history of the hemp 
plant...as you will read. The facts cited here,  with references, are generally 
verifiable in the Encyclopaedia Britannica which  was printed on hemp paper for 150 
years: 


* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s;  Hemp 
Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. 

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES  WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 
1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.  

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th  Centuries WAS 
AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to  grow hemp from 
1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M.  Herdon.

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding  fathers GREW HEMP; 
Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp  seeds from China to 
France then to America. 

* Benjamin Franklin  owned one of the first paper mills in America and it 
processed hemp. Also, the  War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to 
cut off Moscow's export to  England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer. 

* For thousands of  years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from 
hemp. The word 'canvas'  is Dutch for hemp; Webster's New World Dictionary. 

* 80% of all  textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. 
were made from hemp  until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin. 

* The  first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the 
 Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S.  
Government Archives. 

* The first crop grown in many states was  hemp. 1850 was a peak year for 
Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the  largest cash crop until the 20th 
Century; State Archives. 

* Oldest  known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although 
hemp  industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. 

*  Rembrandts, Gainsborough?s, Van Gogh?s as well as most early canvas 
paintings  were principally painted on hemp linen. 

* In 1916, the U.S.  Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would 
come from hemp and that  no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies 
report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of  trees. Plans were in the works 
to implement such  programs; Department of Agriculture 

* Quality paints and varnishes  were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 
58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in  America for paint products in 1935; 
Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before  Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax 
Act. 

* Henry Ford's first  Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR 
ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM  HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed 
among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp  plastic panels 
whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular  Mechanics, 
1941. 

* Hemp called  'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a 
business  potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 
1938.  

* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article  entitled 
'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated  that if 
hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the  single 
largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.  

The following information comes directly  from the United States Department 
of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film  encouraging and instructing 'patriotic 
American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres  of hemp each year for the war effort: 
'...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of  
mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for  
cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to  
about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen  
rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was  
indispensable... 
...Now with Philippine and  East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the 
Japanese...American hemp must  meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as 
of our industries...  

...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves.  When that is gone, American hemp 
will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships;  hemp for tow lines; hemp for 
tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both  on ship and shore. Just as 
in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas  victorious with her hempen 
shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!'  

Certified proof from the Library of  Congress; found by the research of Jack 
Herer, refuting claims of other  government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 
'Hemp for Victory' did not exist.  


Hemp cultivation and production do  not harm the environment. The USDA 
Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4  times as much pulp as wood with at 
least 4 to 7 times less  pollution. 

>From Popular  Mechanics, Feb. 1938: 
'It has a short growing  season...It can be grown in any state...The long 
roots penetrate and break the  soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next 
year's crop. The dense shock  of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, 
chokes out weeds.  
...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably  to American agriculture and 
industry.' 

In  the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial  
revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created  
millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made  
illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.  

William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane)  and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing 
Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage  of timberlands. The Hearst 
Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's  grandfather, a destroyer of 
nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose  billions because of hemp. 

In 1937, Dupont  patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. 
Dupont's Annual  Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical 
division.  Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, 
rayon,  Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.  Natural hemp 
industrialization  would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's  business.

THE TRICKS 
Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary  
investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head 
the  Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.  
Secret meetings were held by these financial  tycoons. Hemp was declared 
dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar  enterprises. For their dynasties 
to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men  took an obscure Mexican slang 
word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the  consciousness of America. 

MEDIA  MANIPULATION 
A media blitz of 'yellow  journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. 
Hearst's newspapers ran stories  emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace 
of marihuana made headlines.  Readers learned that it was responsible for 
everything from car accidents to  loose morality. 
Films like 'Reefer Madness'  (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) 
and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed'  (1936) were propaganda designed by these 
industrialists to create an enemy.  Their purpose was to gain public support so 
that anti-marihuana laws could be  passed. 

Examine the following quotes from  'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS: 
*a  violent narcotic. 
*acts of shocking violence.  
*incurable insanity.  
*soul-destroying effects.  
*under the influence of the drug he killed  his entire family with an axe. 
*more vicious,  more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, 
cocaine) is the  menace of marihuana! 

Reefer Madness did  not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with 
these words plastered  on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. 

In the  1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The 
masses were  like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not 
challenge  authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it 
had to be  true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the 
parents of  the baby-boomers. 

On April 14, 1937, the  Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that 
outlawed hemp was directly  brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This 
committee is the only one  that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it 
being debated by other  committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, 
Robert Doughton, was a Dupont  supporter. He ensured that the bill would pass 
Congress.  

Dr. James Woodward, a physician and  attorney, testified too late on behalf 
of the American Medical Association. He  told the committee that the reason the 
AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax  Law sooner was that the Association 
had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.  

Few people, at the time, realized that  the deadly menace they had been 
reading about on Hearst's front pages was in  fact passive hemp. The AMA understood 
hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous  healing products sold over the last 
hundred years.  
In September of 1937, hemp became illegal.  The most useful crop known became 
a drug and our planet has been suffering ever  since. 

Congress banned hemp because it  was said to be the most violence-causing 
drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug  Commission for 31 years, promoted the 
idea that marihuana made users act  extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the 
Communist threat of McCarthyism,  Anslinger now said the exact opposite. 
Marijuana will pacify you so much that  soldiers would not want to fight. 

Today,  our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large 
tracts of rain  forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing 
people. These  great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. 
Natural biomass  could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently 
supplied by  fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. 
We need a  renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas 
prices.  

THE WONDER PLANT 
Hemp has  a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals 
are required  to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not 
turn yellow and is  very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a 
season where trees take a  lifetime. 

ALL  PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are  
biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. 
 Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; 
they  do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to 
produce  the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as 
Dupont  and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in 
with the  plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products 
are safe and  natural. 

MEDICINES  SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the 
AMA  supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a 
handful  of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on 
 chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body.  

WORLD HUNGER COULD  END. A large variety of food products can be generated 
from hemp. The  seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. 
ALSO: They have  two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. 
These essential  fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming 
hemp seeds is the  best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp 
seeds.  

CLOTHES SHOULD BE  MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and 
durable over time.  You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your 
grandchildren. Today,  there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 
50% hemp. Hemp  fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost 
underground. Superior  hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist 
television.   Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp 
 clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?  

The world is crazy...but that does not  mean you have to join the insanity. 
Get together. Spread the news. Tell people,  and that includes your children, 
the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the  word 'marijuana.' Realize the 
history that created it. Make it politically  incorrect to say or print the 
M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to  favor the agenda of the super 
rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in  the future. We need a clean 
energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE  HEMP! 

The liquor, tobacco and oil  companies fund more than a million dollars a day 
to Partnership for a Drug-Free  America and other similar agencies. We have 
all seen their commercials. Now,  their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we 
thought.' Lies from the powerful  corporations, that began with Hearst, are 
still alive and well today.  

The brainwashing continues. Now, the  commercials say: If you buy a joint, 
you contribute to murders and gang wars.  The latest anti-hemp commercials say: 
If you buy a joint...you are promoting  TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) 
has paved the road to brainwash you any way  THEY see fit. 

There is only one enemy;  the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the 
war-makers and nature destroyers.  With your funding, they are killing the world 
right in front of your eyes. HALF  A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY 
TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH  YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. 

Ingesting  THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma 
and glaucoma.  A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. 
You are able to  eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.  

The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There  is physical evidence that hemp is 
not like any other plant on this planet. One  could conclude that it was brought 
here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the  ONLY plant where the males 
appear one way and the females appear very different,  physically! No one ever 
speaks of males and females in regard to the plant  kingdom because plants do 
not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine  what sex a certain, normal, 
Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at  its DNA. A male blade of 
grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of  grass. The hemp plant 
has an intense sexuality.  

HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT  TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!
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From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Nov  7 09:40:27 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
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YIPPEE!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
DEBBIE
PEACE & LOVE
MICHAEL

From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Nov  7 10:21:47 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Nov  7 10:30:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
Message-ID: <BF94DB3B.2572E%michael@michaelbutler.com>

YIPPEE!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
DEBBIE
PEACE & LOVE
MICHAEL

From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  7 11:14:30 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Mon Nov  7 11:23:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
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Happy Birthday Debbie.. keep that candle burning bright...  jimmy P

Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:YIPPEE!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
DEBBIE
PEACE & LOVE
MICHAEL

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Date: Mon Nov  7 11:38:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HISTORY OF HEMP
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the real reason is that hemp is illegal is some capitalist is not holding a patent on it
sufficiently to his liking
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  MOST KNOW I DO NOT FEEL THE CONGNITIVE/'WILL' SLOWING EFFECTS OF THE 'HERB'  ARE ENERGETICALLY HEALTHY, BUT THE HISTORY WAS INTERESTING.  AT OVER 1/2 CENTURY OLD I CONTINUE TO BE SURPIRSED BY HOW POWER CORRUPTS IN SUCH HEAVILY KHARMIC WAYS. ENJOY...


   The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
        by Doug Yurchey, 2005

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        And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land.
        -- Ezekiel 34/29

        Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopaedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years: 
        

  * All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. 

  * It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981. 

   * REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

   * George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America. 

   * Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer. 

   * For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for hemp; Webster's New World Dictionary. 

   * 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin. 

   * The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives. 

   * The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives. 

   * Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. 

   * Rembrandts, Gainsborough?s, Van Gogh?s as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen. 

   * In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture 

   * Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act. 

   * Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941. 

   * Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938. 

   * Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world. 

        The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort: 
        '...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was indispensable... 
        ...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as of our industries... 

        ...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!' 

        Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist. 
        

        Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp as wood with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. 

        From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938: 
        'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds. 
        ...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.' 

        In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression. 

        William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp. 

        In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.  Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.
         
        THE TRICKS 
        Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. 
        Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America. 

        MEDIA MANIPULATION 
        A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality. 
        Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed. 

        Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS: 
        *a violent narcotic. 
        *acts of shocking violence. 
        *incurable insanity. 
        *soul-destroying effects. 
        *under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an axe. 
        *more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana! 

        Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. 

        In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers. 

        On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He ensured that the bill would pass Congress. 

        Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp. 

        Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years. 
        In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since. 

        Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight. 

        Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices. 
         
        THE WONDER PLANT 
        Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime. 

        ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural. 

        MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body. 

        WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming hemp seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds. 

        CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television.  Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans? 

        The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP! 

        The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we thought.' Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today. 

        The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-hemp commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit. 

        There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. 

        Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being. 

        The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that hemp is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality. 

        HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!


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Debbie

Happy Birthday sweetheart. :)

Love forever
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> YIPPEE!!!
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From sherwin at aceross.com  Sun Nov  6 12:45:31 2005
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Date: Mon Nov  7 12:54:26 2005
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Happy Birthday DebbieJ

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YIPPEE!!!

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From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Mon Nov  7 12:57:33 2005
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Hey Dan 

Right on the apathy in this counrty is astounding, it seems like the everyone is to busy running around looking for the ultimate orgasm and seeking decadence and couldn't be bothered with whats really going on in the world. I do think that when we start to throw "bigger stones" at Iran that that might be the spark to light a fire under the ass of this generation to want to speak up & protest one can only hope. Keep teaching the children well brother, I to long for the next revolution. 

Love forever
Robin
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  Michael-
     Thank you always for your words, truths, and empowerment.  I have teetered on the edge of a revolution for almost as long as I can remember.  I have dreamt about it since I was in 10th grade, have read and studied and tried to prepare myself for it in my teens.  Took stabs at small examples of it while at West Point.  Always leading, always driving others along with me.  I am trying to calm my spirit and maybe my calling by touching upon it in my writings, through my words.  But it is a war that is wrought continuously within my soul.  I know that it must happen again.  We need a change.  We are so lacking in concern for the planet, so stale with our spirituality and our basic human qualities of love, compassion, truth, motivation, desire for learning, tending to of humanity and the planet and ourselves, that there has to be something.  There definitely has to be something.  
     And it hurts my brain... always!!  I'm trying to speak to the children through all my children's books and shows, hoping to nip the next wave of buds, hoping to rip the forced spoon of society's feeding out of their mouths and instead offer them something sweeter.  
      This world is becoming a prison state, led by us, and it must be changed.

  Thank you-
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Happy Birthday Debbie! Our lives are so much brighter for having you in 
them! May your new year be filled with love and laughter and many visits to 
MA (not to mention naps! LOL!) We miss you.
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Nov  7 15:43:26 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Mon Nov  7 15:52:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MUST READ-what Bill sent
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 07:18:32 -0500
From: William Swiggard <swiggard@comcast.net>
Subject: [Mb-civic] Deconstructing Cheney - James Carroll - Boston
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Deconstructing Cheney

By James Carroll  |  November 7, 2005

THE INDICTMENT of the vice president's chief of staff for perjury and
obstruction of justice is an occasion to consider just how damaging the
long public career of Richard Cheney has been to the United States. He
began as a political scientist devoted to caring for the elbow of Donald
Rumsfeld. As a congressman, Rumsfeld had reliably voted against programs
to help the nation's poor, so (as I recalled in reading James Mann's
''Rise of the Vulcans") it was with more than usual cynicism that
Richard Nixon appointed him head of the Office of Economic Opportunity,
the antipoverty agency. Rumsfeld named Cheney as his deputy, and the two
set out to gut the program-- the beginning of the Republican rollback of
the Great Society, what we saw in New Orleans this fall.

When Rumsfeld became Gerald Ford's White House chief of staff, he again
tapped Cheney as his deputy. Now they set out to destroy detente, the
fragile new relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union.
Dismissing detente as moral relativism, Cheney so believed in Cold War
bipolarity that when it began to melt in the late 1980s, he tried to
refreeze it. As George H.W. Bush's secretary of defense, Cheney was key
to America's refusal to accommodate the hopeful new spirit of the age.
Violence was in retreat, with peace breaking out across the globe, from
the Philippines to South Africa, Ireland, the Middle East, and Central
America. When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, Cheney forged America's
response -- which was, little over a month later, to wage an illegal war
against Panama.

As Mikhail Gorbachev presided over the nonviolent dismantling of the
Soviet Union, Cheney warned Bush not to trust it. When the justification
for the huge military machine over which Cheney presided disappeared, he
leapt on the next casus belli -- Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait.
Hussein, a former ally, was now Hitler.

Against Cheney's own uniformed advisers (notably including Joint Chiefs
Chairman Colin Powell), he forged Washington's choice of violence over
diplomacy. The first Gulf War, remembered by Americans as justified, was
in fact an unnecessary affirmation of military might as the ground of
international order, just as an historic alternative was opening up. US
responses in that period, mainly shaped by Cheney, stand in stark
contrast to Gorbachev's, who, refusing to call on military might even to
save the Soviet Union, was ordering his soldiers back to their barracks.
The unsentimental Cheney, eschewing human rights rhetoric, was explicit
in defining America's Gulf War interest as all about oil. (The oil
industry having made Cheney rich.) Cheney's initiatives, more than any
other's, defined the insult to the Arab world that spawned Al Qaeda.

With all of this as prelude, it seems as tragic as it was inevitable
that Cheney was behind the wheel again when the next fork in the road
appeared before the nation. When the World Trade Center towers were hit
in New York, it was Cheney who told a shaken President Bush to flee. The
true nature of their relationship (Cheney, not Bush, having shaped the
national security team; Cheney, not Bush, having appointed himself as
vice president) showed itself for a moment.

The 9/11 Commission found that, from the White House situation room,
Cheney warned the president that a ''specific threat" had targeted Air
Force One, prompting Bush to spend the day hiding in the bunker at Offut
Air Force Base in Nebraska. There was no specific threat. In Bush's
absence, Cheney, implying an authorizing telephone call from the
president, took command of the nation's response to the crisis. There
was no authorizing telephone call. The 9/11 Commission declined to make
an issue of Cheney's usurpation of powers, but the record shows it.

At world-shaping moments across a generation, Cheney reacted with an
instinctive, This is war! He helped turn the War on Poverty into a war
on the poor. He helped keep the Cold War going longer than it had to,
and when it ended (because of initiatives taken by the other side),
Cheney refused to believe it. To keep the US war machine up and running,
he found a new justification just in time. With Gulf War I, Cheney
ignited Osama bin Laden's burning purpose. Responding to 9/11, Cheney
fulfilled bin Laden's purpose by joining him in the
war-of-civilizations. Iraq, therefore (including the prewar deceit for
which Scooter Libby takes the fall), is simply the last link in the
chain of disaster which is the public career of Richard Cheney.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/11/07/
deconstructing_cheney/

From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Mon Nov  7 16:05:20 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Mon Nov  7 16:13:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: A MAJOR DAY
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Happiest of birthdays to ya Debbie. You are a gem! Hope it was an outasite 
affair.

PEACE,
Leo
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 Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
YIPPEE!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
 DEBBIE
 PEACE & LOVE
 MICHAEL


From Reeeees at aol.com  Mon Nov  7 11:34:01 2005
From: Reeeees at aol.com (Reeeees@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  7 17:00:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A new revolution declaring war on war 
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A new revolution declaring war on war
AL MARTINEZ

November 7, 2005  |  Los  Angeles Times

In every phase of my life, war has been a factor.  

It has haunted my childhood, all of my middle years and now follows me  into 
the twilight time.

We acquiesce to the wars by obediently waving  flags, marching to stirring 
battle hymns, building monuments and cheering like  fools at a high school 
soccer game. I think back not just to those major or  semi-major conflicts, one of 
which I've fought in, but to all the "lesser"  military adventures we have 
incorporated into our policies of persuasion and  subjugation.

History has rolled quickly past war's grief, mourning only  for a moment, and 
has blurred the horror into fading images through a rear-view  mirror. What's 
important is not that we cried but that we won.

And here  we are again, trapped in the repetitions, doomed by the lessons 
never learned,  fighting whispers and shadows for only a vague notion of  purpose.

Thousands of lives, ours and theirs, lost, billions of dollars,  ours, spent 
and no way to damp the terrible fires that burn in our furnaces of  rage.

We can argue God and governments until the words become meaningless  and 
curse the inhumanity or our enemies even as we torture and humiliate those  in our 
custody, both sides victims of the ironies we have helped to  create.

Salvation in more recent times has rested not on the vagaries of  leadership 
but on the will of the people, the few who raise fists of protest and  are 
followed by the many. Cindy Sheehan, demanding to know why her son died,  leaving 
the question to bleed in the very air of D.C., receiving no answer,  joined 
by thousands.

We saw the peace marches emerge from the passion of  students in the 1960s, 
defying in the streets those who threw young lives into a  war so like the one 
we fight today, a war lacking outlines and honesty, a war  without end.

Burdened finally by the souls of the young dying in Vietnam,  we joined the 
students in the street, ended the war and chased a president of  the United 
States out of the Oval Office and into the shadows of  yesterday.

Last week, we saw the peace marchers again, faintly  reminiscent of those 
days of rage that shook the world 40 years ago, but this  time it isn't only the 
young who are launching the protests.

I sense that  a good many of the marchers, maybe most, are people like 
Sheehan and people like  me and people like you who have lived through wars, who 
have fought in wars, who  have lost a part of us in wars and who are damned tired 
of wars. This is, as it  should be, a people's revolution, including 
teenagers and retirees, an army  forged not by the need to win but the need to lose 
the curse that has caused us  to repeat the sins of human conflict from one 
generation to the  other.

The war in Iraq won't be won, not in the traditional sense of  conquest and 
occupation. We know that now. Polls track a dawning realization  across the 
political spectrum that this is a war without victory. George W. Bush  called for 
unity in crisis, which he never truly received, but may be seeing his  wish 
granted in the streets of protest, with a unity of purpose.

Politics  aren't the only reason the march has been joined by the right as 
well as the  left. We have discovered in the battle's heat, observed from afar, 
that when the  drums of patriotism are only faintly heard and explosions are 
the only reality,  Republicans bleed as easily as Democrats, and all fall as 
one in the mutuality  of their deaths.

Most of us exist in the isolation of our own lives and  cross borders of 
empathy with effort. We find it difficult to feel the deep and  abiding sorrow 
that another feels when war reaches out to individual homes and  individual 
hearts in Boston and Oklahoma City and Denver and Phoenix and  Portland and Los 
Angeles.

We will have evolved beyond who we are once we  are able to absorb the grief 
that others feel when the military man at the door  brings news from the front 
lines that no one wants to hear. We will know pain  beyond the emptiness of 
rhetoric that comes from the mouths of politicians. We  will ache in ways that 
we never thought we could.

I'm hopeful that what  we are seeing more of ? a growing distaste for the 
killing fields ? will become  a revolution for peace that is long overdue. If 
not, the battles will drag on,  engendering more rage and hatred, laying the 
foundation for new animosities and  solving nothing.

Years from now, as we weigh war's lies and motives, we  will come to realize 
that, paraphrasing Pogo, we have found the weapons of mass  destruction and 
they are us.
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_al.martinez@latimes.com_ (mailto:al.martinez@latimes.com) .

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From swiggard at comcast.net  Mon Nov  7 18:29:31 2005
From: swiggard at comcast.net (William Swiggard)
Date: Mon Nov  7 18:40:27 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
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Happy Birthday, Debbie! 

My wishes may be late (long day at the hospital ugh), but I assure you 
they are heartfelt.  I second Nina's proposal for a return visit by you 
and Mike to see the New England Tribe.  Can't wait. 

Hope your special day is a blast -

Love always,
Bill

Little Birdie wrote:

> Happy Birthday Debbie! Our lives are so much brighter for having you 
> in them! May your new year be filled with love and laughter and many 
> visits to MA (not to mention naps! LOL!) We miss you.
> Much much love,
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
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>> Subject: [Mb-hair] A MAJOR DAY
>> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:31:57 -0800
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>> YIPPEE!!!
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>> DEBBIE
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Mon Nov  7 20:24:14 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Nov  8 04:08:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: MUST READ-what Bill sent
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Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:43:26 -0800
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Subject: MUST READ-what Bill sent

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 07:18:32 -0500
From: William Swiggard <swiggard@comcast.net>
Subject: [Mb-civic] Deconstructing Cheney - James Carroll - Boston
    Globe    Op-Ed
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Deconstructing Cheney

By James Carroll  |  November 7, 2005

THE INDICTMENT of the vice president's chief of staff for perjury and
obstruction of justice is an occasion to consider just how damaging the
long public career of Richard Cheney has been to the United States. He
began as a political scientist devoted to caring for the elbow of Donald
Rumsfeld. As a congressman, Rumsfeld had reliably voted against programs
to help the nation's poor, so (as I recalled in reading James Mann's
''Rise of the Vulcans") it was with more than usual cynicism that
Richard Nixon appointed him head of the Office of Economic Opportunity,
the antipoverty agency. Rumsfeld named Cheney as his deputy, and the two
set out to gut the program-- the beginning of the Republican rollback of
the Great Society, what we saw in New Orleans this fall.

When Rumsfeld became Gerald Ford's White House chief of staff, he again
tapped Cheney as his deputy. Now they set out to destroy detente, the
fragile new relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union.
Dismissing detente as moral relativism, Cheney so believed in Cold War
bipolarity that when it began to melt in the late 1980s, he tried to
refreeze it. As George H.W. Bush's secretary of defense, Cheney was key
to America's refusal to accommodate the hopeful new spirit of the age.
Violence was in retreat, with peace breaking out across the globe, from
the Philippines to South Africa, Ireland, the Middle East, and Central
America. When the Berlin Wall fell in 1989, Cheney forged America's
response -- which was, little over a month later, to wage an illegal war
against Panama.

As Mikhail Gorbachev presided over the nonviolent dismantling of the
Soviet Union, Cheney warned Bush not to trust it. When the justification
for the huge military machine over which Cheney presided disappeared, he
leapt on the next casus belli -- Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait.
Hussein, a former ally, was now Hitler.

Against Cheney's own uniformed advisers (notably including Joint Chiefs
Chairman Colin Powell), he forged Washington's choice of violence over
diplomacy. The first Gulf War, remembered by Americans as justified, was
in fact an unnecessary affirmation of military might as the ground of
international order, just as an historic alternative was opening up. US
responses in that period, mainly shaped by Cheney, stand in stark
contrast to Gorbachev's, who, refusing to call on military might even to
save the Soviet Union, was ordering his soldiers back to their barracks.
The unsentimental Cheney, eschewing human rights rhetoric, was explicit
in defining America's Gulf War interest as all about oil. (The oil
industry having made Cheney rich.) Cheney's initiatives, more than any
other's, defined the insult to the Arab world that spawned Al Qaeda.

With all of this as prelude, it seems as tragic as it was inevitable
that Cheney was behind the wheel again when the next fork in the road
appeared before the nation. When the World Trade Center towers were hit
in New York, it was Cheney who told a shaken President Bush to flee. The
true nature of their relationship (Cheney, not Bush, having shaped the
national security team; Cheney, not Bush, having appointed himself as
vice president) showed itself for a moment.

The 9/11 Commission found that, from the White House situation room,
Cheney warned the president that a ''specific threat" had targeted Air
Force One, prompting Bush to spend the day hiding in the bunker at Offut
Air Force Base in Nebraska. There was no specific threat. In Bush's
absence, Cheney, implying an authorizing telephone call from the
president, took command of the nation's response to the crisis. There
was no authorizing telephone call. The 9/11 Commission declined to make
an issue of Cheney's usurpation of powers, but the record shows it.

At world-shaping moments across a generation, Cheney reacted with an
instinctive, This is war! He helped turn the War on Poverty into a war
on the poor. He helped keep the Cold War going longer than it had to,
and when it ended (because of initiatives taken by the other side),
Cheney refused to believe it. To keep the US war machine up and running,
he found a new justification just in time. With Gulf War I, Cheney
ignited Osama bin Laden's burning purpose. Responding to 9/11, Cheney
fulfilled bin Laden's purpose by joining him in the
war-of-civilizations. Iraq, therefore (including the prewar deceit for
which Scooter Libby takes the fall), is simply the last link in the
chain of disaster which is the public career of Richard Cheney.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/11/07/
deconstructing_cheney/

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From tali at gatetheatre.co.uk  Tue Nov  8 07:14:22 2005
From: tali at gatetheatre.co.uk (Tali)
Date: Tue Nov  8 07:23:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F68ECA558B7BE1A4FAA1C4B2D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00bc01c5e477$1afc7140$1200000a@gatetheatre.local>

Hi Nina
Hope you're well. I was hoping to register a different email for the
Hair list. Can we use tali_pelman@hotmail.com (instead of the gate
theatre one).
Many thanks
T xx

Tali Pelman
Producer
 
The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
020 7229 5387
www.gatetheatre.co.uk
 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Little Birdie
Sent: 18 July 2005 21:14
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions

Hi folks,

Just updated the Current Productions page at the archives web site. With

TAMS working with us we now have a fairly complete listing of all
current 
productions. Thought you might like to see what's up, so I attach the 
listings below here, but in future you can access this info always at
the 
web site. I'll update the listings here as well. Go out and see a
current 
production! Hair is happening all over!

Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html

U.S (alphabetical by state)

Illinois

Extended for the 3rd time

Lakeshore Theater
3175 N. Broadway
Chicago, IL 60657
(Broadway and Belmont)
To reserve tickets:
Box Office: 773-472-3492
Online: http://www.tickets.com

Beginning April 27, 2005
Wednesdays and Sundays at 7:00pm
Students: $15
General Admission: $20

For information : (773) 857 0554 or tickets@tonkawatheatretribe.com

http://www.tonkawatheatretribe.com/index2.htm


****************

Elmwood Park Community Theatre
Elmwood Park High School auditorium
8201 W. Fullerton Avenue, Elmwood Park, IL. 60707
July 15 - July 24, 2005
Fridays & Saturdays at 7:30 pm, Sundays at 2:00 pm.
Tickets $10 at the door, general admission

Louisiana

Artists Cooperative Theatre
Metairie, LA
August 12 - 14, 2005

Maryland
St. Mary's College of Maryland
St. Mary's City, MD
February 24 - March 4, 2006
http://www.smcm.edu/


Massachusetts
Barrington Stage Company
August 3 - 7 at the Mahaiwe in Great Barrington
Aug. 10 - 14 at the Berkshire Music Hall in Pittsfield
Semi-staged concert version
http://www.barringtonstageco.org/index.html
Box office: 413-528-8888

*********

Danvers Youth Theatre
Danvers, MA
http://www.danversyouththeatre.org/
August 12 - 14, 2005

Michigan

The Barn Theatre
13351 West M-96
Augusta, MI 49012
August 9 - 21, 2005
Tues-Wed-Thurs-Fri - 8:30, Saturday - 6:00 and 9:00, Sunday - 5:00 and 
sometimes 8:30
Box Office open 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. 269-731-4121
http://www.barntheatre.com/Default.htm


Missouri

Washington University
Edison Theatre
St. Louis, MO
October 7 - 16, 2005

October 7 and 8, 14 and 15 @ 8 pm
October 9 and 16 @ 2 pm
http://ascc.artsci.wustl.edu/~pad/


New Jersey

Rider University
Lawrenceville, NJ
November 10 - 19, 2005
http://www.rider.edu/


New York

Laguardia High School of the Performing Arts (This one is Ross Tatum"s.
Yeah 
Ross!)
December 8 - 17, 2005
100 Amsterdam Avenue
New York City
212-496-0700
http://www.laguardiahs.org/home.html

*******

Wagner College
One Campus Road
Staten Island, NY 10301
April 5 - 23, 2006

Long Lake Camp for the Arts
Augsut 28, 2005
(518) 624-4831


North Carolina

Wings Dance Company (This one is Katie's. Yeah Katie!!)
Asheville, NC
September 9 -10, 2005


Oregon

2nd Street Theater
220 NE Lafayette Ave
Bend, OR 97701
(541) 312-9626
January 19 - February 11, 2006
Auditions - November 14 & 15, 7pm
http://2ndstreettheater.com/


Vermont

University of Vermont
The Royall Tyler Theatre
Burlington, VT
November 9 - 20, 2005
802-656-2094 to leave message
Box office closed for the summer. Will reopen September 8, 2005
http://www.uvmtheatre.org/


Canada

Toronto

Oakwood Collegiate Institute
January 18 - 21, 2006


Europe

England

London

The Gate Theatre
11 Pembridge Road
London W11 3HQ
Previews start September 12, 2005
Opening night September 22, 2005
Running through October 8, 2005
Phone 020 7229 5387
http://www.gatetheatre.co.uk

Germany

Tecklenburg, Freilichtspiele
Freilichtspiele
inGerman
August 15 - September 30, 2005
Previews starting July 30, 2005

*******

Biberach, Jugendkunstschule
Stadthalle
in German
September 24 - October 9, 2005

*******

German Tour

Xanten, Arena Theater GmbH
Touring production
English
Season 2005/06
Premiere : 11/9/05

Zwickau, Theater Plauen-Zwickau
Gro?es Haus
Mix-Version
26.02.05-31.07.06
Premiere : 2/12/05

Hof, St?dtebundtheater
Theater Hof
Mix-Version
30.11.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 10/23/04

Pforzheim, Stadttheater
Gro?es Haus
Mix-Version
15.06.04-31.07.05
Premiere : 6/4/04



Hungary

G?rdonyi G?za Theatre,
Address: H-3300 Eger city, Hatvani, kapu Sq. 4
July 8, 9, 10, 14, 15, 16 and 17, at 21H (9pm)
In case of rain: July 11 and/or 18

Norway

Kristiansand, Norway
Premieres - February 24, 2005
http://www.kultopia.no/


Spain

Cala Blava, Spain
Center Stage Productions
September 16 - 17, 2005



Australia

Altona

Altona City Theatre Company
Hobson's Bay Council Theatre

July 1 - 24, 2005

(03) 9398-5508,  8310-5550 or tickets@altonacitytheatre.com.au

*******

Aitkenvale

North Queensland Opera & Music Theatre Company

October 11 - 15, 2006

http://www.nqomt.org.au/


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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  8 10:04:23 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Tue Nov  8 10:13:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] B'Day
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- Happiest of Days-even if belated.From one Scorpio to another with all the love I can
muster.My best.XOX Michael

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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Nov  8 11:21:03 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Nov  8 11:29:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Some More Info
Message-ID: <BF963A9F.25801%michael@michaelbutler.com>

LBN-SPECIAL BONUS: THE BIRD FLU - 10 BASIC FACTS BY ELIZABETH M. WHELAN:
?
PUBLIC awareness about the possibility of a pandemic of avian flu has
soared, but so has misinformation. Here are the top 10 things you need to
know. 
?
1) There are currently no known cases of avian flu traced to
person-to-person transmission. The only transmission is between birds and in
a small number of people who have had close contact with birds. A pandemic
would occur only if the current virus mutated in such a way that it could be
transmitted between and among humans. There is no need to panic, only to
prepare. 
?
2. The media daily tout hypothetical threats -- claiming, for instance, that
trace levels of pesticide residues in food pose hazards -- but bird flu is
not a run-of-the-mill phantom risk. There is sound scientific evidence
suggesting a pandemic could evolve.
?
3) There are major differences between the deadly 1918 flu pandemic and one
that might occur in modern times. Today we have anti-viral drugs that can
mitigate the effects of the infection, and we have antibiotics to treat
secondary infections and complications.
?
4) There are, however, challenges that remain essentially the same as they
were nearly 100 years ago. Influenza is highly contagious. Unlike SARS or
smallpox, influenza can be spread one or two days before symptoms appear.
During the SARS epidemic, the disease was kept in check by keeping travelers
with fevers from boarding planes. Carriers of influenza may show no such
signs of disease. 
?
5) As President Bush stressed in a speech last week, the first step in
preparedness is surveillance, tracking and documenting the frequency of
infection in birds and in people working with birds -- and reporting
immediately any person-to-person transmission. This will involve a
concerted, worldwide effort.
?
6) Vaccine production is complicated given that (a) we cannot develop an
effective vaccine until human to human transmission has occurred and we have
identified the new virus, and (b) there is currently little incentive for
pharmaceutical companies to make vaccines given the liability risks they
face and the uncertainty that sales revenue would justify the staggering
production costs. Some advocate stockpiling "pre-pandemic" vaccines designed
to protect from the H5N1 strain now infecting birds, recognizing that a new
strain allowing person to person transmission would be different but arguing
that a pre-pandemic vaccine might at least offer some protection. Others say
it is a misuse of limited resources to allocate over $1 billion to produce a
vaccine of unknown efficacy. Medical professionals agree, though, that we
must develop quicker, more efficient means of making vaccines, while giving
companies incentives to produce them -- including liability protection and
guarantees of purchase.
?
7) Government stockpiling of medicines to treat influenza -- anti-virals and
antibiotics -- is essential. At the moment, Tamiflu is the No. 1 choice in
treating influenza, but the drug is in short supply and is licensed only to
Roche. With the right incentives, Roche would team up with other companies
to dramatically increase production. (Stocking up on Tamiflu now for
personal use, though, is unwise and unnecessary.)
?
8) State and local health departments should create an infrastructure that
would allow for storage and distribution of both vaccines and treatments --
and the possible sudden increase in need for hospital beds and
isolation/quarantine programs.
?
9) Advance preparation should avoid "quick fixes" that could backfire.
Proposals to allow governments to violate patents on drugs like Tamiflu --
ignoring laws that protect intellectual property -- would be disastrous,
discouraging the pharmaceutical industry from developing desperately-needed
new anti-virals. 
?
10) As with any crisis, hucksters will try to make a quick buck. Already,
dozens of Internet sites sell what is almost certainly imposter "Tamiflu"
and surgical masks that offer little or no protection against the flu virus.
Buyer beware. 
?
Dr. Elizabeth M. Whelan is president of the American Council on Science and
Health (www.ACSH.org, www.HealthFactsAndFears.com).


From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  8 11:31:25 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Tue Nov  8 11:40:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Current Productions
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c5e477$1afc7140$1200000a@gatetheatre.local>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F79734BA1E38F3B222254DB2640@phx.gbl>

Hi Tali,

It's done. Let me know if there are any problems.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From jameshburns at webtv.net  Tue Nov  8 12:00:11 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Tue Nov  8 12:08:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Non-Profit Theatre:  An Amazing Donation Story
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Tue, 8 Nov 2005
	12:00:17 -0800
Message-ID: <22029-437103CB-1968@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net>

 
This is fascinating, particularly the first few paragraphs--for how
inventive certan donations, when coupled with corporate, can be...! 

Jim Burns 
___ 

"In Oregon, Brushing Up Their Shakespeare, Helped Along by Software" 
By KATIE HAFNER 
New York Times, November 8, 2005 


ASHLAND, Ore. - For nearly 30 years, Michael Schroeder, a computer
research scientist, has been a loyal fan of the Oregon Shakespeare
Festival in Ashland. He is so devoted that in July 2001, when he was
interviewing for a job with Microsoft, he flew from Medford, Ore., to
San Francisco one morning and hurried back to Ashland for that evening's
performance of "The Merry Wives of Windsor." 

Mr. Schroeder ended up taking the Microsoft job. A couple of summers
later, when he attended a donors dinner in Ashland, he asked if the
festival would be interested in receiving software along with his usual
cash contribution. 

The response was quick and enthusiastic: absolutely. The result: Ashland
has become the envy of other regional theaters around the country. 

"All of a sudden it was like angels came flying down," Bruce Wand, the
festival's director of information technology services, said of Mr.
Schroeder and two of Mr. Schroeder's longtime colleagues, Andrew Birrell
and Edward Wobber, who also work at Microsoft and were regular
contributors to Ashland. 

The festival's technical staff put together a lengthy wish list of
software, some of it basic operating system software, some of it more
specialized, and far more expensive. Mr. Schroeder investigated
Microsoft's gift-matching policies and found that if the three men each
gave $2,000, the company would match the cash donations with enough
software for the festival to have everything on its wish list. The
retail value was estimated at $150,000. 
By late 2003, the first software donation was in place. New computers
were purchased, and a wireless network was built. A small group of
programmers at the festival was able to write customized software to cue
lights, position scenery, keep track of props and costumes, project
synchronized video, sell tickets and administer the database of members. 

To understand the impact this upgrade has had, consider the daunting
number of particulars that Ashland - among the largest and oldest
regional repertory theaters in the country - must track. During each
season, which runs from February through October, the festival produces
about 775 performances of 11 productions on three stages, with sets
assembled and disassembled dozens of times in the course of a week. For
the 2005 season's 120 performances of "Richard III," for instance, the
set was taken down and rebuilt 125 times. "We're like a touring theater
that doesn't go anywhere, and we're touring 11 shows at once," said
Michael Maag, the festival's master electrician. 
Now costume designers can look at images online rather than rifling
through racks; costume inventories are so precise that if an understudy
jumps into a role at the last minute, the software knows if the correct
size costume is on hand. The amount of time spent in production meetings
poring over minutiae has been dramatically reduced. Drawings of props,
for example, can be sent by e-mail message to a designer with requested
changes, no face-to-face meetings necessary. The automation of the
lights alone has saved the festival hundreds of hours of labor and tens
of thousands of dollars. What was once done with a $55,000 lighting
console can be achieved with a $1,200 desktop computer and some
custom-tailored software. "The trickle effect of this gift, I can't even
get my hands around it," Mr. Wand said. 
During a recent tour of the lighting and sound control booth, Mr. Maag
described the clever use of automated lighting in a sequence of "Richard
III," when Queen Margaret makes a stealthy yet conspicuous entrance.
Libby Appel, who directed the play, and the actress playing Queen
Margaret, Robin Goodrin Nordli, experimented for a while with how she
would enter, then the light cues were programmed to place her in a
dappled pinpoint of light. 
"It took five minutes to place the lights," Mr. Maag said, whereas
before the automation, he would have had to take down instructions
during a technical rehearsal, then have a technician come in before the
performance, crawl along catwalks and perch on ladders to hang the
lights, adjust them and readjust them. 
Stuart Cotts, the festival's principal technology engineer, said that
when his counterparts from other theaters visited, their first reaction
was envy. Then they ask if they can buy the software. "I've been truly
amazed by the uses that Bruce Wand and his band of wizards have come up
with for our software," said Mr. Wobber, who goes to Ashland twice a
year. 
Now, each year, around the middle of the summer, Mr. Wand sends an
e-mail message to Mr. Schroeder with a new wish list. Mr. Schroeder then
sits down with Mr. Wobber and Mr. Birrell, and they divide up the
requests. 
For all the excitement about the technology, Ms. Appel, the artistic
director of the festival, takes care to make sure that it doesn't
eclipse the art, something she said was "overdecorating." "Don't take me
too literally when I say this, but I'm a great believer that it's about
the text and the actor and some lights," she said. William Bloodgood,
the festival's resident scenic designer, said: "The artistic people here
get very nervous about technology because they see it as having a high
failure rate. If a machine breaks down, it does bring the show to a
halt, but the same thing can happen without mechanized scenery. The
machines are no more infallible than an actor or a human stagehand." 
Mr. Bloodgood does freelance work at other theaters and said nothing
approaches the technical efficiency of Ashland. And there is also some
razzle-dazzle. 
A production of "The Comedy of Errors" last season was set in Las Vegas,
replete with glitz. A complex system of a dozen computer-driven motors
pulled sliding panels, rolled stairs and spun an enormous turntable. "It
was hugely popular," Mr. Bloodgood said. Mr. Schroeder, meanwhile, is
still making the six-hour trip from the Bay Area every year. (One
advantage of driving, he said, is that he and his wife can take their
large, heavy espresso machine, set it up in their hotel room and serve
coffee and bagels each morning to a group of friends who make the trek
with them.) 
When he watches the plays in Ashland, technology isn't the first thing
he thinks about. 
"I suppose if some light went bananas in the middle of a performance, it
would take me back to that line of thought," he said. "But a good play
really sucks you in." 


? Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company


From songsters at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  8 15:33:26 2005
From: songsters at earthlink.net (Debbie Andrews)
Date: Tue Nov  8 15:42:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks!
Message-ID: <93F2A126-ABC8-45A2-A691-948414E92939@earthlink.net>

Thank you my HAiR buddies for your B-day wishes!!!   So very sweet!    
Let's see..... I ate some amazing Italian food.... polenta w  
mushrooms & truffles( someone always has to explain to me what they  
are)  & pistachio macaroons for dessert -  yum!

Love  &  Peace and I miss all of you!
Debbie
From IHHS at aol.com  Sun Nov  6 20:13:44 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Tue Nov  8 17:41:41 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HISTORY OF HEMP
Message-ID: <E1EZcyf-0003rD-Tv@smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

MOST KNOW I DO NOT FEEL THE CONGNITIVE/'WILL' SLOWING EFFECTS OF THE  'HERB'  
ARE ENERGETICALLY HEALTHY, BUT THE HISTORY WAS INTERESTING.   AT OVER 1/2 
CENTURY OLD I CONTINUE TO BE SURPIRSED BY HOW POWER CORRUPTS IN  SUCH HEAVILY 
KHARMIC WAYS. ENJOY...
 
 
 The Real Reason Hemp is  Illegal
by Doug Yurchey,  2005

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more  
consumed with hunger in the land.
-- Ezekiel  34/29

Where did the word 'marijuana' come  from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was 
created to tarnish the good image and  phenomenal history of the hemp 
plant...as you will read. The facts cited here,  with references, are generally 
verifiable in the Encyclopaedia Britannica which  was printed on hemp paper for 150 
years: 


* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s;  Hemp 
Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. 

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES  WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 
1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.  

* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th  Centuries WAS 
AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to  grow hemp from 
1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M.  Herdon.

* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding  fathers GREW HEMP; 
Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp  seeds from China to 
France then to America. 

* Benjamin Franklin  owned one of the first paper mills in America and it 
processed hemp. Also, the  War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to 
cut off Moscow's export to  England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer. 

* For thousands of  years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from 
hemp. The word 'canvas'  is Dutch for hemp; Webster's New World Dictionary. 

* 80% of all  textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. 
were made from hemp  until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin. 

* The  first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the 
 Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S.  
Government Archives. 

* The first crop grown in many states was  hemp. 1850 was a peak year for 
Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the  largest cash crop until the 20th 
Century; State Archives. 

* Oldest  known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although 
hemp  industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. 

*  Rembrandts, Gainsborough?s, Van Gogh?s as well as most early canvas 
paintings  were principally painted on hemp linen. 

* In 1916, the U.S.  Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would 
come from hemp and that  no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies 
report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of  trees. Plans were in the works 
to implement such  programs; Department of Agriculture 

* Quality paints and varnishes  were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 
58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in  America for paint products in 1935; 
Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before  Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax 
Act. 

* Henry Ford's first  Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR 
ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM  HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed 
among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp  plastic panels 
whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular  Mechanics, 
1941. 

* Hemp called  'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a 
business  potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 
1938.  

* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article  entitled 
'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated  that if 
hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the  single 
largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.  

The following information comes directly  from the United States Department 
of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film  encouraging and instructing 'patriotic 
American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres  of hemp each year for the war effort: 
'...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of  
mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for  
cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to  
about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen  
rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was  
indispensable... 
...Now with Philippine and  East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the 
Japanese...American hemp must  meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as 
of our industries...  

...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves.  When that is gone, American hemp 
will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships;  hemp for tow lines; hemp for 
tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both  on ship and shore. Just as 
in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas  victorious with her hempen 
shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!'  

Certified proof from the Library of  Congress; found by the research of Jack 
Herer, refuting claims of other  government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 
'Hemp for Victory' did not exist.  


Hemp cultivation and production do  not harm the environment. The USDA 
Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4  times as much pulp as wood with at 
least 4 to 7 times less  pollution. 

>From Popular  Mechanics, Feb. 1938: 
'It has a short growing  season...It can be grown in any state...The long 
roots penetrate and break the  soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next 
year's crop. The dense shock  of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, 
chokes out weeds.  
...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably  to American agriculture and 
industry.' 

In  the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial  
revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created  
millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made  
illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.  

William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane)  and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing 
Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage  of timberlands. The Hearst 
Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's  grandfather, a destroyer of 
nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose  billions because of hemp. 

In 1937, Dupont  patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. 
Dupont's Annual  Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical 
division.  Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, 
rayon,  Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.  Natural hemp 
industrialization  would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's  business.

THE TRICKS 
Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary  
investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head 
the  Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.  
Secret meetings were held by these financial  tycoons. Hemp was declared 
dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar  enterprises. For their dynasties 
to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men  took an obscure Mexican slang 
word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the  consciousness of America. 

MEDIA  MANIPULATION 
A media blitz of 'yellow  journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. 
Hearst's newspapers ran stories  emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace 
of marihuana made headlines.  Readers learned that it was responsible for 
everything from car accidents to  loose morality. 
Films like 'Reefer Madness'  (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) 
and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed'  (1936) were propaganda designed by these 
industrialists to create an enemy.  Their purpose was to gain public support so 
that anti-marihuana laws could be  passed. 

Examine the following quotes from  'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS: 
*a  violent narcotic. 
*acts of shocking violence.  
*incurable insanity.  
*soul-destroying effects.  
*under the influence of the drug he killed  his entire family with an axe. 
*more vicious,  more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, 
cocaine) is the  menace of marihuana! 

Reefer Madness did  not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with 
these words plastered  on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. 

In the  1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The 
masses were  like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not 
challenge  authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it 
had to be  true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the 
parents of  the baby-boomers. 

On April 14, 1937, the  Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that 
outlawed hemp was directly  brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This 
committee is the only one  that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it 
being debated by other  committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, 
Robert Doughton, was a Dupont  supporter. He ensured that the bill would pass 
Congress.  

Dr. James Woodward, a physician and  attorney, testified too late on behalf 
of the American Medical Association. He  told the committee that the reason the 
AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax  Law sooner was that the Association 
had just discovered that marihuana was hemp.  

Few people, at the time, realized that  the deadly menace they had been 
reading about on Hearst's front pages was in  fact passive hemp. The AMA understood 
hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous  healing products sold over the last 
hundred years.  
In September of 1937, hemp became illegal.  The most useful crop known became 
a drug and our planet has been suffering ever  since. 

Congress banned hemp because it  was said to be the most violence-causing 
drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug  Commission for 31 years, promoted the 
idea that marihuana made users act  extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the 
Communist threat of McCarthyism,  Anslinger now said the exact opposite. 
Marijuana will pacify you so much that  soldiers would not want to fight. 

Today,  our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large 
tracts of rain  forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing 
people. These  great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. 
Natural biomass  could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently 
supplied by  fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. 
We need a  renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas 
prices.  

THE WONDER PLANT 
Hemp has  a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals 
are required  to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not 
turn yellow and is  very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a 
season where trees take a  lifetime. 

ALL  PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are  
biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. 
 Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; 
they  do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to 
produce  the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as 
Dupont  and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in 
with the  plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products 
are safe and  natural. 

MEDICINES  SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the 
AMA  supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a 
handful  of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on 
 chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body.  

WORLD HUNGER COULD  END. A large variety of food products can be generated 
from hemp. The  seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. 
ALSO: They have  two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. 
These essential  fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming 
hemp seeds is the  best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp 
seeds.  

CLOTHES SHOULD BE  MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and 
durable over time.  You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your 
grandchildren. Today,  there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 
50% hemp. Hemp  fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost 
underground. Superior  hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist 
television.   Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp 
 clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans?  

The world is crazy...but that does not  mean you have to join the insanity. 
Get together. Spread the news. Tell people,  and that includes your children, 
the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the  word 'marijuana.' Realize the 
history that created it. Make it politically  incorrect to say or print the 
M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to  favor the agenda of the super 
rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in  the future. We need a clean 
energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE  HEMP! 

The liquor, tobacco and oil  companies fund more than a million dollars a day 
to Partnership for a Drug-Free  America and other similar agencies. We have 
all seen their commercials. Now,  their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we 
thought.' Lies from the powerful  corporations, that began with Hearst, are 
still alive and well today.  

The brainwashing continues. Now, the  commercials say: If you buy a joint, 
you contribute to murders and gang wars.  The latest anti-hemp commercials say: 
If you buy a joint...you are promoting  TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) 
has paved the road to brainwash you any way  THEY see fit. 

There is only one enemy;  the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the 
war-makers and nature destroyers.  With your funding, they are killing the world 
right in front of your eyes. HALF  A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY 
TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH  YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. 

Ingesting  THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma 
and glaucoma.  A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. 
You are able to  eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.  

The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There  is physical evidence that hemp is 
not like any other plant on this planet. One  could conclude that it was brought 
here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the  ONLY plant where the males 
appear one way and the females appear very different,  physically! No one ever 
speaks of males and females in regard to the plant  kingdom because plants do 
not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine  what sex a certain, normal, 
Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at  its DNA. A male blade of 
grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of  grass. The hemp plant 
has an intense sexuality.  

HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT  TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Wed Nov  9 03:05:47 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HISTORY OF HEMP
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hemp is lovely
i dont know that its ever done a thing for my creativity
but i adore it
as dr pretorious says in " bride of frankenstein "
its my only weakness
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: IHHS@aol.com 
  To: IHHS@aol.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 11:13 PM
  Subject: [Mb-hair] HISTORY OF HEMP


  MOST KNOW I DO NOT FEEL THE CONGNITIVE/'WILL' SLOWING EFFECTS OF THE 'HERB'  ARE ENERGETICALLY HEALTHY, BUT THE HISTORY WAS INTERESTING.  AT OVER 1/2 CENTURY OLD I CONTINUE TO BE SURPIRSED BY HOW POWER CORRUPTS IN SUCH HEAVILY KHARMIC WAYS. ENJOY...


   The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
        by Doug Yurchey, 2005

        --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land.
        -- Ezekiel 34/29

        Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are generally verifiable in the Encyclopaedia Britannica which was printed on hemp paper for 150 years: 
        

  * All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. 

  * It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981. 

   * REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

   * George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America. 

   * Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer. 

   * For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for hemp; Webster's New World Dictionary. 

   * 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin. 

   * The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives. 

   * The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives. 

   * Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. 

   * Rembrandts, Gainsborough?s, Van Gogh?s as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen. 

   * In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture 

   * Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act. 

   * Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941. 

   * Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938. 

   * Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world. 

        The following information comes directly from the United States Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the war effort: 
        '...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the hangman, hemp was indispensable... 
        ...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as well as of our industries... 

        ...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!' 

        Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist. 
        

        Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp as wood with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. 

        From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938: 
        'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the ground, chokes out weeds. 
        ...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.' 

        In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression. 

        William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions because of hemp. 

        In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil.  Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.
         
        THE TRICKS 
        Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. 
        Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of America. 

        MEDIA MANIPULATION 
        A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality. 
        Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' (1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed. 

        Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS: 
        *a violent narcotic. 
        *acts of shocking violence. 
        *incurable insanity. 
        *soul-destroying effects. 
        *under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an axe. 
        *more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana! 

        Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. 

        In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers. 

        On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He ensured that the bill would pass Congress. 

        Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp. 

        Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA understood hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold over the last hundred years. 
        In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since. 

        Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not want to fight. 

        Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices. 
         
        THE WONDER PLANT 
        Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime. 

        ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural. 

        MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when the AMA supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that relies on chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body. 

        WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in nature! Consuming hemp seeds is the best thing you could do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds. 

        CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on fascist television.  Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans? 

        The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP! 

        The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: 'It's more dangerous than we thought.' Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with Hearst, are still alive and well today. 

        The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-hemp commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit. 

        There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. 

        Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being. 

        The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that hemp is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality. 

        HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!


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From sherwin at aceross.com  Wed Nov  9 12:21:58 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Wed Nov  9 12:31:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] a memo to the board
Message-ID: <20051109202233.999FB236FB9@lax-gw01.mroute.net>

Dear Tribe,

 

The "Rolling Stones" concert last night at the Hollywood Bowl was nothing
less than outstanding.

If they can do it so can we..

 

I have a question.

 

Is there a problem for all of us in 50's and 60's who have the burning
desire to perform HAiR to get in shape to create the ultimate performances?

 

I make a motion for The Tribes to formulate a plan for a 40th Anniversary
Tour of HAiR in 2008.

 

Our life in the 60's is looking better and better everyday compared to what
is going on in the world today.

 

Let's do something about it?

 

Sherwin 

------------------------------------------------

I believe in second chances 
I believe in angels, too 
I believe in new romances 
Baby, I believe in you 
These cloudy days are coming to an end 
And you don't have to be afraid to fall in love again 
  
Baby, I would never make you cry 
I would never make you blue 
I would never turn away 
I would never be untrue 
I know a place we can go where true love always stays 
There's no more stormy nights, no more cloudy days 

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From zenzjay at earthlink.net  Wed Nov  9 12:32:27 2005
From: zenzjay at earthlink.net (Jonathan Zenz)
Date: Wed Nov  9 12:41:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] a memo to the board
References: <20051109202233.999FB236FB9@lax-gw01.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <00df01c5e56c$b38391a0$1259820a@amer.warnerbros.com>

Can those of us in our 30's join in?

Jonathan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:21 PM
  Subject: [Mb-hair] a memo to the board


  Dear Tribe,

   

  The "Rolling Stones" concert last night at the Hollywood Bowl was nothing less than outstanding.

  If they can do it so can we..

   

  I have a question.

   

  Is there a problem for all of us in 50's and 60's who have the burning desire to perform HAiR to get in shape to create the ultimate performances?

   

  I make a motion for The Tribes to formulate a plan for a 40th Anniversary Tour of HAiR in 2008.

   

  Our life in the 60's is looking better and better everyday compared to what is going on in the world today.

   

  Let's do something about it?

   

  Sherwin 

  ------------------------------------------------

  I believe in second chances 
  I believe in angels, too 
  I believe in new romances 
  Baby, I believe in you 
  These cloudy days are coming to an end 
  And you don't have to be afraid to fall in love again 
    
  Baby, I would never make you cry 
  I would never make you blue 
  I would never turn away 
  I would never be untrue 
  I know a place we can go where true love always stays 
  There's no more stormy nights, no more cloudy days 

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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  9 16:38:01 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Wed Nov  9 16:46:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks!
In-Reply-To: <93F2A126-ABC8-45A2-A691-948414E92939@earthlink.net>
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magic mushrooms? 
 

Debbie Andrews <songsters@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thank you my HAiR buddies for your B-day wishes!!! So very sweet! 
Let's see..... I ate some amazing Italian food.... polenta w 
mushrooms & truffles( someone always has to explain to me what they 
are) & pistachio macaroons for dessert - yum!

Love & Peace and I miss all of you!
Debbie
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From hecate at diamonddragon.com  Thu Nov 10 07:12:43 2005
From: hecate at diamonddragon.com (Hecate Gould)
Date: Thu Nov 10 09:44:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Bush Mental Lapses
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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 09:45:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] First signs of birds flu in Orange County
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From Reeeees at aol.com  Thu Nov 10 07:50:43 2005
From: Reeeees at aol.com (Reeeees@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 10 10:13:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Something happening here ... 
Message-ID: <E1EaGS6-0001gn-P4@smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Thursday, November 10, 2005 | Los Angeles  Times
Something happening here  ...
By Mark Rudd
 
MARK RUDD, who led the student uprising at Columbia  University in 1968 and 
then became a member of the Weather Underground, teaches  math at a community 
college in New Mexico.
 
I JOINED THE anti-Vietnam War movement as an  18-year-old college student, a 
freshman at Columbia University. It was the fall  of 1965, just months after 
the U.S. began sending ground combat troops to  Southeast Asia. 
 
The older members of the Columbia chapter of Students  for a Democratic 
Society explained to me that unlike World War II, Vietnam was  an imperial war, a 
war of occupation whose purpose was the repression of a  national liberation 
movement. We were a small group then, but over the next  three years SDS became 
a critical part of a larger antiwar coalition. Our anger  mounted, our 
protests grew and our ranks burgeoned. Unfortunately, we went many  bridges too far 
and got ensnared in the hallucination of revolution. By 1969, it  became more 
important in SDS to fight each other over who had the "correct  revolutionary 
line" than to fight against the war itself. 
 
Early the next year, while the war was still raging, my  own faction, the 
Weathermen, made the stupid and ultimately disastrous decision  to disband SDS 
and opt instead for "armed struggle," our middle-class version of  urban 
guerrilla warfare. Predictably, we became isolated and irrelevant over the  ensuing 
years, even as the larger antiwar movement went on to achieve its goal:  U.S. 
withdrawal from Vietnam. 
 
I often wonder what would have resulted over the long  haul if SDS ? which 
represented the radical, anti-imperialist wing of the  antiwar movement ? had 
not chosen to self-destruct in violence and fantasy but  instead had kept 
plugging away, encouraging more and more people to understand  and oppose the 
building of an American empire.
 
This question seems particularly relevant today, 40  years later, as a 
reawakening antiwar movement prepares to confront many of the  same issues. Who 
benefits and who loses from an American empire? What are the  moral and economic 
and spiritual costs to Americans? Is a system of  international law possible as 
an alternative to endless use of American military  power? Viewed against the 
bleak future that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice are  offering Americans and 
the rest of the world, these questions begin to seem more  practical than 
idealistic.
 
What's hard to understand ? given the revelations about  the rush to war, the 
use of torture and the loss of more than 2,000 soldiers ?  is why the antiwar 
movement isn't further along than it is. Given that President  Bush is now 
talking about Iraq as only one skirmish in an unlimited struggle  against a 
global Islamic enemy, a struggle comparable to the titanic, 40-year  Cold War 
against communism, shouldn't a massive critique of the global war on  terrorism 
already be underway? 
Yet the movement has remained small and  politically isolated since the 
original outpouring of opposition in the spring  of 2003, during the run-up to the 
war. In part, it was the victim of its own  early success, the spontaneous 
demonstrations involving millions of people in  the streets here and around the 
world trying to stop the war before it began.  When this initial outburst 
failed, many became demoralized and hopeless. 
 
Then, in 2004, most of the pent-up antiwar energy  flowed into John Kerry's 
campaign, with little to show for it but further  demoralization. The movement 
caught a second wind with the energizing presence  of Cindy Sheehan, but it 
remains small compared with the outpouring against the  Vietnam War. 
 
Probably it's because there's no draft now. Clearly the  fact that 
middle-class boys across the country were receiving draft cards and  lottery numbers 
went a long way toward helping spur resistance to the Vietnam  War. Nor is there 
a countercultural movement today that questions authority like  the one that 
emerged in the 1960s and 1970s. 
 
But building a movement can be done. To increase our  ranks, we'll need to 
break through the too-common belief that change is  impossible. 
 
We'll also need to take on the larger war. As the next  battle heats up, 
perhaps against Iran or Syria, the movement will have to ask  the American people 
to look honestly at who we are in the world. The antiwar  movement will have 
to engage in the most difficult dialogue of our lives with  our neighbors. 
 
Throughout American history, popular movements have  made vast 
transformations in the social and political geography of this country  ? the abolition 
movement, the women's suffrage movement, the civil rights  movement, the labor 
movement, the gay movement. 
 
My own contribution is to tell the story of how an  antiwar movement 
involving millions of people accomplished something unique in  American history and 
almost unique in the history of empires: We helped stop a  war of aggression by 
our own country. This was American democracy at its best. I  lived through it, 
I saw it with my own eyes. 
 
If all of us "gray-hairs" were to tell our stories, we  might be able to make 
a contribution. At least we could help people find hope in  this dark time.
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Nov 10 11:09:38 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Nov 10 13:03:24 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] THIS SAYS IT ALL: Alternet: All the King's Media
In-Reply-To: <20051110185943.F0B4EB809B@alternet.org>
Message-ID: <BF98DAF2.2592E%michael@michaelbutler.com>




This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



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All the King's Media
http://www.alternet.org/story/27790

As Washington crumbles around George Bush, the old-line media have failed to
fulfill their duties. This is where the emergent, democratic media should
take the lead.
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Thu Nov 10 06:19:11 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Thu Nov 10 13:20:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hi bro sherwin
Message-ID: <437356DF.94D14C66@t-online.de>

 hair the original tribe who needs a pr  put my name down to start our
hair  singing aquarius and what a piece of work is man and okay  the
nuuuude scene same words i said to galt in 68 so thats my audition done
and woof if mick jagger dosent mind  love you all   robin MAC you are
next bro  vincent

From jameshburns at webtv.net  Thu Nov 10 13:53:18 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Thu Nov 10 14:02:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] GUYS:  Private Emails Are Private!
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Thu, 10 Nov 2005
	11:03:34 -0800
Message-ID: <22379-4373C14E-1157@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>


Two of you from the list--

And Michael, I don't mean you!

Have begun sending emails to my--

And I presume other's--

Email accounts.

This would be okay, if it weren't the same emails you're already sending
to MB-Civic!

So, look, please trust that if I want to, I'm going to read your stuff,
in the Digest--

And don't send out a seperate duplicate!

Otherwise, I'll be delighted to hear from you!

(Unless, Nina, this a gltich with the Lists, themselves?)

Best, Jim Burns

From michael at michaelbutler.com  Thu Nov 10 14:21:36 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Thu Nov 10 14:30:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] GUYS:  Private Emails Are Private!
In-Reply-To: <22379-4373C14E-1157@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <BF9907F0.25957%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Hey, Jim
It is my fault. Things are heating up so much in the social area that I am
feeling it is very important to send some items to all. Very few are on more
that one list. You seem to be one. Please bear with me. Unless you have an
idea as to how I can avoid cluttering up the emails of my friends.
Irie
Michael


> 
> Two of you from the list--
> 
> And Michael, I don't mean you!
> 
> Have begun sending emails to my--
> 
> And I presume other's--
> 
> Email accounts.
> 
> This would be okay, if it weren't the same emails you're already sending
> to MB-Civic!
> 
> So, look, please trust that if I want to, I'm going to read your stuff,
> in the Digest--
> 
> And don't send out a seperate duplicate!
> 
> Otherwise, I'll be delighted to hear from you!
> 
> (Unless, Nina, this a gltich with the Lists, themselves?)
> 
> Best, Jim Burns
> 
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Thu Nov 10 17:01:54 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Thu Nov 10 18:04:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hi bro sherwin
References: <437356DF.94D14C66@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <000f01c5e65b$82fe8d60$53bc2041@CowBox>

Vincent my brother  what can I say I am partial to Claude and would love to 
play him again, you know the strange thing is the more you guys talk about 
it the more we begin to visualize & actually hear things, we all know the 
script like the back of our hand & alot of the blocking so rehearsal should 
really not take "all that long' & we already have more than a nucleolus for 
a cast.  You wonder though if the public (like with any project) will "buy 
it" because no "angel" will give us funding unless they believe it will. At 
first I thought the concept was kind of funny but the more I think about it 
just might work. You couldn't call it "Hair featuring the original cast" but 
you say somthing like call "Hair featuring original cast members" possibly ?

Love forever
Robin







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] hi bro sherwin


> hair the original tribe who needs a pr  put my name down to start our
> hair  singing aquarius and what a piece of work is man and okay  the
> nuuuude scene same words i said to galt in 68 so thats my audition done
> and woof if mick jagger dosent mind  love you all   robin MAC you are
> next bro  vincent
>
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From sherwin at aceross.com  Thu Nov 10 18:08:29 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Thu Nov 10 18:17:48 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] 40th anniversary tour of HAiR
In-Reply-To: <000f01c5e65b$82fe8d60$53bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <20051111020901.79C5783CEA@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

Robin,

 

I have no doubt in my mid that this is the only proper way to present a 40th
Anniversary Tour.

As Michael stated, "Today's youth wants to know the truth about the sixties
and the fore bearers want to relive the experience".

 

 

sherwin

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Robin McNamara
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:02 PM
To: VinUschi@t-online.de; mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hi bro sherwin

 

Vincent my brother  what can I say I am partial to Claude and would love to 

play him again, you know the strange thing is the more you guys talk about 

it the more we begin to visualize & actually hear things, we all know the 

script like the back of our hand & alot of the blocking so rehearsal should 

really not take "all that long' & we already have more than a nucleolus for 

a cast.  You wonder though if the public (like with any project) will "buy 

it" because no "angel" will give us funding unless they believe it will. At 

first I thought the concept was kind of funny but the more I think about it 

just might work. You couldn't call it "Hair featuring the original cast" but


you say somthing like call "Hair featuring original cast members" possibly ?

 

Love forever

Robin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>

To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>

Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:19 AM

Subject: [Mb-hair] hi bro sherwin

 

 

> hair the original tribe who needs a pr  put my name down to start our

> hair  singing aquarius and what a piece of work is man and okay  the

> nuuuude scene same words i said to galt in 68 so thats my audition done

> and woof if mick jagger dosent mind  love you all   robin MAC you are

> next bro  vincent

> 

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From songsters at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 10 21:01:26 2005
From: songsters at earthlink.net (Debbie Andrews)
Date: Thu Nov 10 21:10:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks
In-Reply-To: <200511102000.jAAK0DPX010698@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
References: <200511102000.jAAK0DPX010698@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <D739DCBA-8A6F-4045-99CF-73FFA00D4AB5@earthlink.net>

I'm evolving,
I'm evolving ..........


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:38:01 -0800 (PST)
From: James Pappaconstantine <georgeberger69@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051110003801.8124.qmail@web54210.mail.yahoo.com>
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magic mushrooms?


Debbie Andrews <songsters@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thank you my HAiR buddies for your B-day wishes!!! So very sweet!
Let's see..... I ate some amazing Italian food.... polenta w
mushrooms & truffles( someone always has to explain to me what they
are) & pistachio macaroons for dessert - yum!

Love & Peace and I miss all of you!
Debbie
From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 10 23:03:14 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Thu Nov 10 23:12:02 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks
In-Reply-To: <D739DCBA-8A6F-4045-99CF-73FFA00D4AB5@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20051111070314.55359.qmail@web54201.mail.yahoo.com>

Last time I did shrooms was before the Red Hot Chili Pepper's Mother's Milk show at the Orpheum in Boston.. My brother and I did them and I can remember having permasmile all night long, after the show we went to the Rat and I could still not stop smiling.. funny because before that I hadn't done any drugs for atleast 5 years.. It was fun, but not sure I could handle that stuff today.  JIMMY P

Debbie Andrews <songsters@earthlink.net> wrote:I'm evolving,
I'm evolving ..........


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:38:01 -0800 (PST)
From: James Pappaconstantine 
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Major Thanks!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051110003801.8124.qmail@web54210.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

magic mushrooms?


Debbie Andrews wrote:
Thank you my HAiR buddies for your B-day wishes!!! So very sweet!
Let's see..... I ate some amazing Italian food.... polenta w
mushrooms & truffles( someone always has to explain to me what they
are) & pistachio macaroons for dessert - yum!

Love & Peace and I miss all of you!
Debbie
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Thu Nov 10 21:29:52 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Nov 11 04:31:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
Message-ID: <43742C50.F2529727@t-online.de>

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from
hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that
makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to
bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and
building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

From sherwin at aceross.com  Fri Nov 11 07:01:28 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Fri Nov 11 07:10:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <43742C50.F2529727@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <20051111150153.2238224AF9E@lax-gw02.mroute.net>

Vincent,

 

I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and
innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's
technology.

I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He
is also Bi Coastal.

 

Should I have a conversation with him?

  

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing.

 

323 655 5554

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

 

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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 07:28:13 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Fri Nov 11 07:36:42 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <43742C50.F2529727@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <001b01c5e6d4$8838db90$53bc2041@CowBox>

Vincent I think that is a good idea & it certainly could not hurt but I 
don't know  if we would get much airplay since many songs have already been 
hits in the past from Hair already recorded by established artirts of the 
time & also the original soundtrack itself. But I do believe a version of 
"The Flesh Failures" which has never been re- recorded properly would be our 
best bet. The words in that song are just as powerful today if not more so 
than ever. We might have to drop the "Manchester England England" section of 
the song ( maybe not)  just for "continuity." I also tend to believe the 
show itself done with "original cast members" is a strong enough idea with 
or with out a recording to be successful.

Love forever
Robin






From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:29 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again


> hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from
> hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that
> makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to
> bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and
> building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent
>
> _______________________________________________
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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 07:29:26 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Fri Nov 11 07:37:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111150153.2238224AF9E@lax-gw02.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <002a01c5e6d4$b3d122d0$53bc2041@CowBox>

Sherwin

I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

Love forever
Robin
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM
  Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


  Vincent,

   

  I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

  I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

   

  Should I have a conversation with him?

    

   

  Sherwin "Ace" Ross

  Private consultation for your business.

  Private label and brand manufacturing.

   

  323 655 5554

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
  To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
  Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

   

  hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

  hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

  makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

  bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

  building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

   

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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Fri Nov 11 00:55:58 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Fri Nov 11 07:57:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] flesh failures
Message-ID: <43745C9E.199AC17@t-online.de>

hi shirwin and robin  i think flesh failures is the song the only
production that came close back in 68 was little anthony and the
imperials but there version came out to early  have a wour with your
producer friend sherwin se what he would want to be involved  any body
else got any ideas this is fun  love and peace  vincent

From michael at intrafi.com  Fri Nov 11 09:35:45 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Fri Nov 11 09:44:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Pumping the Oil Tycoons
Message-ID: <20051111173545.13001B81A9@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



-------------------------------------
Pumping the Oil Tycoons
http://www.alternet.org/story/28103

Big Oil bigwigs were in the hot seat during Wednesday's rare Senate hearing on soaring oil industry profits -- but all we got out of them was hot air.
-------------------------------------

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 09:48:58 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 09:57:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111150153.2238224AF9E@lax-gw02.mroute.net>
	<002a01c5e6d4$b3d122d0$53bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <019401c5e6e8$3167e220$f1476c42@hotprojects>

the one you have to convince is galt macdermot
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robin McNamara 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again


  Sherwin

  I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

  Love forever
  Robin
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sherwin Ross 
    To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 
    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM
    Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


    Vincent,

     

    I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

    I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

     

    Should I have a conversation with him?

      

     

    Sherwin "Ace" Ross

    Private consultation for your business.

    Private label and brand manufacturing.

     

    323 655 5554

     

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
    To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
    Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

    hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

    makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

    bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

    building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

     

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From sherwin at aceross.com  Fri Nov 11 09:50:05 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Fri Nov 11 09:59:32 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <019401c5e6e8$3167e220$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <20051111175037.B2DE33AE3C2@lax-gw06.mroute.net>

Why?

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private <http://www.aceross.com/>  consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing. <http://www.foundascousa.com/> 

Shop our Boutique <http://www.shopourboutique.com/> 

 

323 655 5554

 

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From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Robin McNamara <mailto:olhippie@tampabay.rr.com>  

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Sherwin

 

I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in
such a project, it couldn't hurt.

 

Love forever

Robin

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Vincent,

 

I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and
innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's
technology.

I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He
is also Bi Coastal.

 

Should I have a conversation with him?

  

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing.

 

323 655 5554

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

 

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From sherwin at aceross.com  Fri Nov 11 09:50:36 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Fri Nov 11 09:59:59 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <019401c5e6e8$3167e220$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <20051111175107.924F89FD67@lax-gw05.mroute.net>

EMI owns the publishing.

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private <http://www.aceross.com/>  consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing. <http://www.foundascousa.com/> 

Shop our Boutique <http://www.shopourboutique.com/> 

 

323 655 5554

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Robin McNamara <mailto:olhippie@tampabay.rr.com>  

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Sherwin

 

I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in
such a project, it couldn't hurt.

 

Love forever

Robin

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Vincent,

 

I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and
innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's
technology.

I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He
is also Bi Coastal.

 

Should I have a conversation with him?

  

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing.

 

323 655 5554

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

 

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http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 09:58:14 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 10:07:11 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111175037.B2DE33AE3C2@lax-gw06.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <02f501c5e6e9$7d2bad30$f1476c42@hotprojects>

because for whatever idiosyncratic reason
galt does not like and or want the idea of a senior production
which i think is brilliant on a whole variety of levels
i mean surely the sound of 100 original and quasi original cast members
sing aquarius at the reunion was just artistically unparralled
but as you know ive been triumphing this idea for a while
as independently coincidentally has rado
galt for whatever reason doesnt want it

if you guys want
ill call him up right now
and ask him about it

?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


  Why?

   

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  From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

   

  the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Robin McNamara 

    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

    Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    Sherwin

     

    I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

     

    Love forever

    Robin

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sherwin Ross 

      To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

      Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      Vincent,

       

      I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

      I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

       

      Should I have a conversation with him?

        

       

      Sherwin "Ace" Ross

      Private consultation for your business.

      Private label and brand manufacturing.

       

      323 655 5554

       

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
      Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
      To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
      Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

      hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

      makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

      bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

      building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

       

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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 10:01:58 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 10:10:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111175107.924F89FD67@lax-gw05.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <030d01c5e6ea$027169d0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

there are all sorts of overlapping rights

eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations from the authors

i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa barbara san francisco etc
get the second class rights
and then just make sure its covered by A level media
then you have the pre-eminent production
and everyone will want it
and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

but thats what i would say
keep it mid profile in the beginning
then
your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media and the public
thats what i would reccomend
but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial level and galt stopped it\

?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


  EMI owns the publishing.

   

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  From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

   

  the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Robin McNamara 

    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

    Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    Sherwin

     

    I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

     

    Love forever

    Robin

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sherwin Ross 

      To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

      Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      Vincent,

       

      I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

      I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

       

      Should I have a conversation with him?

        

       

      Sherwin "Ace" Ross

      Private consultation for your business.

      Private label and brand manufacturing.

       

      323 655 5554

       

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
      Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
      To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
      Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

      hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

      makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

      bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

      building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

       

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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 10:24:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111175107.924F89FD67@lax-gw05.mroute.net>
	<030d01c5e6ea$027169d0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <034201c5e6eb$e6606ff0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

also sherwin the boys who produced your national company companies
theyre some of the best at getting around the politics of the hair rights where substantiallly sized tour companies are concerned
i would definitely get in touch with them re any tour particularly hair
by the way where who are they?
because your boys know how to get exactly that kind of tour off the ground

?????

its a very tricky thing
if it gets too much notice then frankel and that crew not to mention jimmy and galt will swoop down
like zeus and his pantheon with hemmorhoids
if its too small in the public eye
then it doesnt get off the ground

its a puzzlement as yul brynner says 
but doable
the senior idea satisfies both camps in the hair tribe\
it is traditional and yet it is highly innovative
i am so for it
and will also try to raise the money etc

i would quietly stick it
in santa barbara or san francisco
or san diego

go to tams witmark
make like youre a semi pro group
quietly get the rights for a large scale non traditional venue
in one of those cities 

thats what i think
frisco if i had a choice
to digress; re my sony presentation this coming week
( first major project showing )

if were lucky bless god 
and theres a new musical and sherwin is the lead
i expect the tribe to come out and support us

back into the project pit
down down you eeel  like auteur
back into the auteur pit tank with the rados of this world

R
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: richard haase 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again


  there are all sorts of overlapping rights

  eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations from the authors

  i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

  a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa barbara san francisco etc
  get the second class rights
  and then just make sure its covered by A level media
  then you have the pre-eminent production
  and everyone will want it
  and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

  but thats what i would say
  keep it mid profile in the beginning
  then
  your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media and the public
  thats what i would reccomend
  but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial level and galt stopped it\

  ?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sherwin Ross 
    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM
    Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


    EMI owns the publishing.

     

    Sherwin "Ace" Ross

    Private consultation for your business.

    Private label and brand manufacturing.

    Shop our Boutique

     

    323 655 5554

     


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    From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
    Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Robin McNamara 

      To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

      Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      Sherwin

       

      I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

       

      Love forever

      Robin

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Sherwin Ross 

        To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

        Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

        Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

         

        Vincent,

         

        I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

        I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

         

        Should I have a conversation with him?

          

         

        Sherwin "Ace" Ross

        Private consultation for your business.

        Private label and brand manufacturing.

         

        323 655 5554

         

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
        Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
        To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
        Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

         

        hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

        hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

        makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

        bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

        building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

         

        _______________________________________________

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From sherwin at aceross.com  Fri Nov 11 10:19:08 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Fri Nov 11 10:28:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <034201c5e6eb$e6606ff0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <20051111181959.BE59F24AF1E@lax-gw02.mroute.net>

Richard,

 

Did Zeus really have hemorrhoids?

 

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:16 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

also sherwin the boys who produced your national company companies

theyre some of the best at getting around the politics of the hair rights
where substantiallly sized tour companies are concerned

i would definitely get in touch with them re any tour particularly hair

by the way where who are they?

because your boys know how to get exactly that kind of tour off the ground

 

?????

 

its a very tricky thing

if it gets too much notice then frankel and that crew not to mention jimmy
and galt will swoop down

like zeus and his pantheon with hemmorhoids

if its too small in the public eye

then it doesnt get off the ground

 

its a puzzlement as yul brynner says 

but doable

the senior idea satisfies both camps in the hair tribe\

it is traditional and yet it is highly innovative

i am so for it

and will also try to raise the money etc

 

i would quietly stick it

in santa barbara or san francisco

or san diego

 

go to tams witmark

make like youre a semi pro group

quietly get the rights for a large scale non traditional venue

in one of those cities 

 

thats what i think

frisco if i had a choice

to digress; re my sony presentation this coming week

( first major project showing )

 

if were lucky bless god 

and theres a new musical and sherwin is the lead

i expect the tribe to come out and support us

 

back into the project pit

down down you eeel  like auteur

back into the auteur pit tank with the rados of this world

 

R

----- Original Message ----- 

From: richard <mailto:hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>  haase 

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:01 PM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

there are all sorts of overlapping rights

 

eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations
from the authors

 

i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

 

a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa
barbara san francisco etc

get the second class rights

and then just make sure its covered by A level media

then you have the pre-eminent production

and everyone will want it

and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

 

but thats what i would say

keep it mid profile in the beginning

then

your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media
and the public

thats what i would reccomend

but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial
level and galt stopped it\

 

?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

EMI owns the publishing.

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private <http://www.aceross.com/>  consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing. <http://www.foundascousa.com/> 

Shop our Boutique <http://www.shopourboutique.com/> 

 

323 655 5554

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Robin McNamara <mailto:olhippie@tampabay.rr.com>  

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Sherwin

 

I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in
such a project, it couldn't hurt.

 

Love forever

Robin

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Vincent,

 

I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and
innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's
technology.

I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He
is also Bi Coastal.

 

Should I have a conversation with him?

  

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing.

 

323 655 5554

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

 

_______________________________________________

Mb-hair mailing list

Mb-hair@islandlists.com

http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 10:53:40 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 11:03:27 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111181959.BE59F24AF1E@lax-gw02.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <037601c5e6f1$3cc6b750$f1476c42@hotprojects>

I think thats Michael Butlers personal business
lol
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:19 PM
  Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


  Richard,

   

  Did Zeus really have hemorrhoids?

   

   


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  From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:16 AM
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

   

  also sherwin the boys who produced your national company companies

  theyre some of the best at getting around the politics of the hair rights where substantiallly sized tour companies are concerned

  i would definitely get in touch with them re any tour particularly hair

  by the way where who are they?

  because your boys know how to get exactly that kind of tour off the ground

   

  ?????

   

  its a very tricky thing

  if it gets too much notice then frankel and that crew not to mention jimmy and galt will swoop down

  like zeus and his pantheon with hemmorhoids

  if its too small in the public eye

  then it doesnt get off the ground

   

  its a puzzlement as yul brynner says 

  but doable

  the senior idea satisfies both camps in the hair tribe\

  it is traditional and yet it is highly innovative

  i am so for it

  and will also try to raise the money etc

   

  i would quietly stick it

  in santa barbara or san francisco

  or san diego

   

  go to tams witmark

  make like youre a semi pro group

  quietly get the rights for a large scale non traditional venue

  in one of those cities 

   

  thats what i think

  frisco if i had a choice

  to digress; re my sony presentation this coming week

  ( first major project showing )

   

  if were lucky bless god 

  and theres a new musical and sherwin is the lead

  i expect the tribe to come out and support us

   

  back into the project pit

  down down you eeel  like auteur

  back into the auteur pit tank with the rados of this world

   

  R

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: richard haase 

    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:01 PM

    Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    there are all sorts of overlapping rights

     

    eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations from the authors

     

    i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

     

    a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa barbara san francisco etc

    get the second class rights

    and then just make sure its covered by A level media

    then you have the pre-eminent production

    and everyone will want it

    and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

     

    but thats what i would say

    keep it mid profile in the beginning

    then

    your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media and the public

    thats what i would reccomend

    but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial level and galt stopped it\

     

    ?

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sherwin Ross 

      To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM

      Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      EMI owns the publishing.

       

      Sherwin "Ace" Ross

      Private consultation for your business.

      Private label and brand manufacturing.

      Shop our Boutique

       

      323 655 5554

       


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      From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
      To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
      Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Robin McNamara 

        To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

        Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

        Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

         

        Sherwin

         

        I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

         

        Love forever

        Robin

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Sherwin Ross 

          To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

          Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

          Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

           

          Vincent,

           

          I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

          I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

           

          Should I have a conversation with him?

            

           

          Sherwin "Ace" Ross

          Private consultation for your business.

          Private label and brand manufacturing.

           

          323 655 5554

           

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
          Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
          To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
          Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

           

          hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

          hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

          makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

          bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

          building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

           

          _______________________________________________

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From: DRAYERC001 at hawaii.rr.com (lava)
Date: Fri Nov 11 11:06:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair at 40
Message-ID: <200511111851.jABIpg7v006747@ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com>

While it would be terrific to see and hear the original cast of HAiR again,
the hundreds of tribes that have sprung up around the world need a channel
for their experiences to be reborn.  HAiR touched us all in much the same
manner, changing our lives, our perspective, our being. We all need a chance
to capture and profess that spiritual feeling again.

 

So  maybe it should be a big thing.   how about a world wide revival of HAiR
in October of 2007. HAiR performed in hundreds of citys around the world at
the same time...

Imagine..

 

Aloha !

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From sherwin at aceross.com  Fri Nov 11 10:58:55 2005
From: sherwin at aceross.com (Sherwin Ross)
Date: Fri Nov 11 11:08:30 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <037601c5e6f1$3cc6b750$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <20051111185918.25DC083DEE@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

Richard I thought that you were referring to Zeus the Greek God..

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private <http://www.aceross.com/>  consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing. <http://www.foundascousa.com/> 

Shop our Boutique <http://www.shopourboutique.com/> 

 

323 655 5554

 

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From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:54 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

I think thats Michael Butlers personal business

lol

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:19 PM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Richard,

 

Did Zeus really have hemorrhoids?

 

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:16 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

also sherwin the boys who produced your national company companies

theyre some of the best at getting around the politics of the hair rights
where substantiallly sized tour companies are concerned

i would definitely get in touch with them re any tour particularly hair

by the way where who are they?

because your boys know how to get exactly that kind of tour off the ground

 

?????

 

its a very tricky thing

if it gets too much notice then frankel and that crew not to mention jimmy
and galt will swoop down

like zeus and his pantheon with hemmorhoids

if its too small in the public eye

then it doesnt get off the ground

 

its a puzzlement as yul brynner says 

but doable

the senior idea satisfies both camps in the hair tribe\

it is traditional and yet it is highly innovative

i am so for it

and will also try to raise the money etc

 

i would quietly stick it

in santa barbara or san francisco

or san diego

 

go to tams witmark

make like youre a semi pro group

quietly get the rights for a large scale non traditional venue

in one of those cities 

 

thats what i think

frisco if i had a choice

to digress; re my sony presentation this coming week

( first major project showing )

 

if were lucky bless god 

and theres a new musical and sherwin is the lead

i expect the tribe to come out and support us

 

back into the project pit

down down you eeel  like auteur

back into the auteur pit tank with the rados of this world

 

R

----- Original Message ----- 

From: richard <mailto:hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>  haase 

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:01 PM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

there are all sorts of overlapping rights

 

eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations
from the authors

 

i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

 

a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa
barbara san francisco etc

get the second class rights

and then just make sure its covered by A level media

then you have the pre-eminent production

and everyone will want it

and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

 

but thats what i would say

keep it mid profile in the beginning

then

your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media
and the public

thats what i would reccomend

but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial
level and galt stopped it\

 

?

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

EMI owns the publishing.

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private <http://www.aceross.com/>  consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing. <http://www.foundascousa.com/> 

Shop our Boutique <http://www.shopourboutique.com/> 

 

323 655 5554

 

  _____  

From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Robin McNamara <mailto:olhippie@tampabay.rr.com>  

To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Sherwin

 

I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in
such a project, it couldn't hurt.

 

Love forever

Robin

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sherwin <mailto:sherwin@aceross.com>  Ross 

To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

Vincent,

 

I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and
innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's
technology.

I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He
is also Bi Coastal.

 

Should I have a conversation with him?

  

 

Sherwin "Ace" Ross

Private consultation for your business.

Private label and brand manufacturing.

 

323 655 5554

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

 

hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

 

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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 11:05:58 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Fri Nov 11 11:15:04 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <20051111185918.25DC083DEE@lax-gw03.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <040d01c5e6f2$f33bbde0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

of course i was
i made a joke
remember jokes
?


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sherwin Ross 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:58 PM
  Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again


  Richard I thought that you were referring to Zeus the Greek God..

   

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  From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:54 AM
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
  Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

   

  I think thats Michael Butlers personal business

  lol

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Sherwin Ross 

    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:19 PM

    Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    Richard,

     

    Did Zeus really have hemorrhoids?

     

     


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    From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
    Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:16 AM
    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
    Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

     

    also sherwin the boys who produced your national company companies

    theyre some of the best at getting around the politics of the hair rights where substantiallly sized tour companies are concerned

    i would definitely get in touch with them re any tour particularly hair

    by the way where who are they?

    because your boys know how to get exactly that kind of tour off the ground

     

    ?????

     

    its a very tricky thing

    if it gets too much notice then frankel and that crew not to mention jimmy and galt will swoop down

    like zeus and his pantheon with hemmorhoids

    if its too small in the public eye

    then it doesnt get off the ground

     

    its a puzzlement as yul brynner says 

    but doable

    the senior idea satisfies both camps in the hair tribe\

    it is traditional and yet it is highly innovative

    i am so for it

    and will also try to raise the money etc

     

    i would quietly stick it

    in santa barbara or san francisco

    or san diego

     

    go to tams witmark

    make like youre a semi pro group

    quietly get the rights for a large scale non traditional venue

    in one of those cities 

     

    thats what i think

    frisco if i had a choice

    to digress; re my sony presentation this coming week

    ( first major project showing )

     

    if were lucky bless god 

    and theres a new musical and sherwin is the lead

    i expect the tribe to come out and support us

     

    back into the project pit

    down down you eeel  like auteur

    back into the auteur pit tank with the rados of this world

     

    R

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: richard haase 

      To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

      Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:01 PM

      Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

       

      there are all sorts of overlapping rights

       

      eg emi may own it but may still or not need sign off in certain situations from the authors

       

      i know that they are can be very powerful in terms of preroggitive

       

      a better way to proceed is to pick a nice city like los angeles santa barbara san francisco etc

      get the second class rights

      and then just make sure its covered by A level media

      then you have the pre-eminent production

      and everyone will want it

      and jimmy galt etc will cave in 

       

      but thats what i would say

      keep it mid profile in the beginning

      then

      your second class company becomes your tour after it is noticed by the media and the public

      thats what i would reccomend

      but i know that jimmy had a senior production ready to go at a substantial level and galt stopped it\

       

      ?

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Sherwin Ross 

        To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

        Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:50 PM

        Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

         

        EMI owns the publishing.

         

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        From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of richard haase
        Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:49 AM
        To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
        Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

         

        the one you have to convince is galt macdermot

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Robin McNamara 

          To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 

          Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:29 AM

          Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again

           

          Sherwin

           

          I would have a conversation with "him" just to see if there is interest in such a project, it couldn't hurt.

           

          Love forever

          Robin

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Sherwin Ross 

            To: VinUschi@t-online.de ; mb-hair@islandlists.com 

            Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:01 AM

            Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] hair again

             

            Vincent,

             

            I second your motion to record a few tracks. We must capture the essence and innocence of Flesh Failures, Good Morning Starshine and HAiR with today's technology.

            I know a record producer out here in Los Angeles that is very powerful. He is also Bi Coastal.

             

            Should I have a conversation with him?

              

             

            Sherwin "Ace" Ross

            Private consultation for your business.

            Private label and brand manufacturing.

             

            323 655 5554

             

             

            -----Original Message-----
            From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com [mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Vincent Edwards
            Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:30 PM
            To: mb-hair@islandemail.com
            Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again

             

            hi robin  i think the first thing to would be to record a few songs from

            hair with all you guys with galt in charge of the music and see if that

            makes waves if a single or album took off it would be much easier to

            bring hair on stage  isint it great to keep talking about it and

            building up all this creative energy  love you all vincent

             

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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Fri Nov 11 11:20:49 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Fri Nov 11 11:29:37 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair Ideas
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Just remember, when channeling all of this marvelous passion--

And presenting some of these really grand ideas to business folk--

Not to come off like a bunch of fan-boys!

(Not, of course, that the professionals on this list--of which most of
you, of course, are!--even need such a reminder!)

There.

Now I can take my adult hat, off.

I find, at times, it fits a little too tightly...

;-)


Jim Burns

From paul at paulkorda.com  Fri Nov 11 12:18:41 2005
From: paul at paulkorda.com (Paul Korda)
Date: Fri Nov 11 12:25:41 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
In-Reply-To: <200511111915.jABJFA75013455@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c5e6fd$1e9c47c0$1fb1e804@pkorda>

It's great to hear the enthusiasm for a version that includes some of
the original cast members. What ideas I have I will share.  To overcome
any rights problems, re-assess some of the points of the show that need
it and to add some new songs, I would base the show around the tribe at
a campfire, having grown older, reminiscing about various songs and
re-enacting them, comparing what happened then with what is happening
now. In this format it would bring back the best material of the
original show, allowing for relevant dialogue leading up to the song.
After doing the song would come the comparison of then to now, which
would allow for mentions of ecological as well as political destruction.
The tribe could also make the point that all the drugs were a symptom of
the need for change in the youth of the 60's and how destructive they
ended up becoming. In the format of "Hair We Are Again" the rights
problems would be minimal as re-doing an old song needs no permission.
This 'reprise' would be in the same way Abba and Frankie Valli and the
Four Seasons have repackaged the old material into a story, and in this
package concept it would be a saleable commodity Michael. Also it would
be possible to introduce what happened to an individual tribe member
since the late 60's and how life has treated them. I bet there'd be some
good stories there! Anyway, I know some of you will be up at arms with
the slightest idea of changing anything, so I'll tell you in advance
that I won't be drawn in to any confrontations about it, and just am
presenting an idea for consideration.
Best of luck bringing the enthusiasm to fruition.
 In the meantime a new song that might be akin to a Hair song is on the
home page of my site as a non-denominational seasons greeting card that
plays. If you paste it into an email using your html setting, the
recipient just clicks on it and it will play the song and the project is
linked to UNICEF to support the kids affected by the Kashmir earthquake.
It's getting cold there now, so the last thing we want to see is
children dieing of hunger and cold. I hope some of you will use it as
you Seasons Greeting card.
Anyway, it would be nice to see some feedback on "Hair We Are Again".

 
Paul Korda
http://PaulKorda.com   
  


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[mailto:mb-hair-request@islandlists.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:15 AM
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15



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From DRAYERC001 at hawaii.rr.com  Fri Nov 11 10:58:44 2005
From: DRAYERC001 at hawaii.rr.com (lava)
Date: Fri Nov 11 13:18:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair at 40
Message-ID: <200511111858.jABIwj7v013702@ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com>

While it would be terrific to see and hear the original cast of HAiR again,
the hundreds of tribes that have sprung up around the world need a channel
for their experiences to be reborn.  HAiR touched us all in much the same
manner, changing our lives, our perspective, our being. We all need a chance
to capture and profess that spiritual feeling again.

 

So  maybe it should be a big thing.   how about a world wide revival of HAiR
in October of 2007. HAiR performed in hundreds of citys around the world at
the same time...

Imagine..

 

Aloha !

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From tiogajoe at juno.com  Fri Nov 11 13:44:44 2005
From: tiogajoe at juno.com (tiogajoe@juno.com)
Date: Fri Nov 11 13:55:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Reunion "Aquarius" Video & WhereInTheHell is Tioga?
Message-ID: <20051111.134538.8308.96086@webmail06.lax.untd.com>

>From : Sean Courtney <dauber@banana-and-louie.org>     
Date : Wed, Oct 05, 2005 02:40 PM 

Quoting "tiogajoe@juno.com" <tiogajoe@juno.com>:

> Dear Nina,
> How wonderful!  Many thanks to you and all who helped you put these 
> groovy pages together!

Hey -- just in case you're thinking of spending hours downloading the 
"Aquarius"
video -- remember, I live just a few blocks away! 8)
 
=================================================== 
 
Yo, Sean!  

Just to let you know I haven't been ignoring you (not to mention the whole HAIR Cyber Tribe) this whole month since you sent me this.  It's just that this is the first time since October got under way that I've gotten back to my Juno e-mail account (worrying in the meantime primarily about my work e-address and occasionally my aol, at best).  So, TiogaJoe@Juno.com fell victim to my seasonal most-busiest-time (following P.O.W./M.I.A. Recognition Day and Gold Star Mothers' Day ceremonies on September 16 and the "Rolling Thunder" motorcycle run for P.O.W./M.I.A. Awareness on September 18, came an author lecture [by a Vietnam War American Red Cross "Donut Dolly"] on October 15 [I was emcee], our all-day, multi-speaker [like 20] Vietnam Forum on October 21, our annual a-few-hundred-bucks-a-plate Gala on October 27, and then today's Veterans Day ceremony [around 400 attended]). 

So, yeah, like, don't take it personally -- my correspondence with you (and even reading any of the HAIR List digests posted) became a casualty of war.

Anyway, yeah, I'd love to take a peek at the "Aquarius" video.  And, yeah, I'm not about to wait through the probably DAYS it would take for me to download such on my home (dial-up) computer!

So, thanks for the offer.  Let's get together someday.

Best to Lisa.  

BTW, Do you guys like the Paul McCartney commercial on TV of late?  -- it's for some financial investment broker or something like that -- but a cool collage of photos of him through time, like, when they say, among the things he's done, he's been a dad, there's that great photo of him from the "McCartney" album, where he's full-bearded and his baby's face is peeking out from his jacket where the baby's all snuggled up to his pop.

Anyway, Be Groovy in the Grove,

The Sib



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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Fri Nov 11 22:11:08 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Fri Nov 11 22:20:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5e6fd$1e9c47c0$1fb1e804@pkorda>
Message-ID: <BF9AC77C.25A2A%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Nice thoughts and wishful thinking. The authors would never agree. The only
approach would be to write a new show based on the Tribes. Someone will do
that, soon I hope.
XO Michael

> It's great to hear the enthusiasm for a version that includes some of
> the original cast members. What ideas I have I will share.  To overcome
> any rights problems, re-assess some of the points of the show that need
> it and to add some new songs, I would base the show around the tribe at
> a campfire, having grown older, reminiscing about various songs and
> re-enacting them, comparing what happened then with what is happening
> now. In this format it would bring back the best material of the
> original show, allowing for relevant dialogue leading up to the song.
> After doing the song would come the comparison of then to now, which
> would allow for mentions of ecological as well as political destruction.
> The tribe could also make the point that all the drugs were a symptom of
> the need for change in the youth of the 60's and how destructive they
> ended up becoming. In the format of "Hair We Are Again" the rights
> problems would be minimal as re-doing an old song needs no permission.
> This 'reprise' would be in the same way Abba and Frankie Valli and the
> Four Seasons have repackaged the old material into a story, and in this
> package concept it would be a saleable commodity Michael. Also it would
> be possible to introduce what happened to an individual tribe member
> since the late 60's and how life has treated them. I bet there'd be some
> good stories there! Anyway, I know some of you will be up at arms with
> the slightest idea of changing anything, so I'll tell you in advance
> that I won't be drawn in to any confrontations about it, and just am
> presenting an idea for consideration.
> Best of luck bringing the enthusiasm to fruition.
> In the meantime a new song that might be akin to a Hair song is on the
> home page of my site as a non-denominational seasons greeting card that
> plays. If you paste it into an email using your html setting, the
> recipient just clicks on it and it will play the song and the project is
> linked to UNICEF to support the kids affected by the Kashmir earthquake.
> It's getting cold there now, so the last thing we want to see is
> children dieing of hunger and cold. I hope some of you will use it as
> you Seasons Greeting card.
> Anyway, it would be nice to see some feedback on "Hair We Are Again".
> 
> 
> Paul Korda
> http://PaulKorda.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com
> [mailto:mb-hair-request@islandlists.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:15 AM
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15
> 
> 

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Nov 12 03:31:13 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Nov 12 03:40:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
References: <BF9AC77C.25A2A%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c5e77c$97a0b5a0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

thats a very good idea michael

TRIBES
the musical

you have wonderful ideas michael
the most artistic producer

R in the project pit

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
To: "HAIR List" <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


> Nice thoughts and wishful thinking. The authors would never agree. The
only
> approach would be to write a new show based on the Tribes. Someone will do
> that, soon I hope.
> XO Michael
>
> > It's great to hear the enthusiasm for a version that includes some of
> > the original cast members. What ideas I have I will share.  To overcome
> > any rights problems, re-assess some of the points of the show that need
> > it and to add some new songs, I would base the show around the tribe at
> > a campfire, having grown older, reminiscing about various songs and
> > re-enacting them, comparing what happened then with what is happening
> > now. In this format it would bring back the best material of the
> > original show, allowing for relevant dialogue leading up to the song.
> > After doing the song would come the comparison of then to now, which
> > would allow for mentions of ecological as well as political destruction.
> > The tribe could also make the point that all the drugs were a symptom of
> > the need for change in the youth of the 60's and how destructive they
> > ended up becoming. In the format of "Hair We Are Again" the rights
> > problems would be minimal as re-doing an old song needs no permission.
> > This 'reprise' would be in the same way Abba and Frankie Valli and the
> > Four Seasons have repackaged the old material into a story, and in this
> > package concept it would be a saleable commodity Michael. Also it would
> > be possible to introduce what happened to an individual tribe member
> > since the late 60's and how life has treated them. I bet there'd be some
> > good stories there! Anyway, I know some of you will be up at arms with
> > the slightest idea of changing anything, so I'll tell you in advance
> > that I won't be drawn in to any confrontations about it, and just am
> > presenting an idea for consideration.
> > Best of luck bringing the enthusiasm to fruition.
> > In the meantime a new song that might be akin to a Hair song is on the
> > home page of my site as a non-denominational seasons greeting card that
> > plays. If you paste it into an email using your html setting, the
> > recipient just clicks on it and it will play the song and the project is
> > linked to UNICEF to support the kids affected by the Kashmir earthquake.
> > It's getting cold there now, so the last thing we want to see is
> > children dieing of hunger and cold. I hope some of you will use it as
> > you Seasons Greeting card.
> > Anyway, it would be nice to see some feedback on "Hair We Are Again".
> >
> >
> > Paul Korda
> > http://PaulKorda.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com
> > [mailto:mb-hair-request@islandlists.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 11:15 AM
> > To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > Subject: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15
> >
> >
>
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From IHHS at aol.com  Sat Nov 12 08:05:13 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 12 08:35:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] interesting
Message-ID: <E1EayCY-00039H-MP@smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Meditate on This: Buddhist Tradition Thickens Parts of the Brain - Yahoo!  
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Sun Nov 13 06:40:24 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Sun Nov 13 06:49:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] So, Who Has a Tribal Ring-tone?
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Sat, 12 Nov 2005
	12:00:14 -0800
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This is fascinating stuff...

     
 
MEDIA FRENZY
It's Like Selling Meals by the Bite. And It May Work.  
By RICHARD SIKLOS
The New York Times, November 13, 2005


HOW much is this sentence - the very one you are reading right now -
worth? Is it potentially more valuable than this entire column, this
section, or the entire newspaper itself? This is not a play for a raise
or a plug for the genius of my prose, but a riff on the latest mania in
media-land: finding new ways to be paid for old material. Nearly every
day, it seems, a new business strategy emerges that on its face may
sound not only counterintuitive but also absurd. Then consumers start to
buy it, and you can only say, "Who knew?"

The ultimate example of this is the ring tone - the grating, pulsing
rendition of the Macarena or an old Whitesnake song that has replaced
the annoying blaring ring on the cellphone of the person sitting next to
you on the bus. When media companies of every stripe are facing
increased competition and rising costs for programming and marketing,
here is a product that consumers love - and that simply reuses a
fragment of existing recordings. 

According to the NPD Group, a research firm, 18 percent of wireless
telephone subscribers in the United States - many of them tech-wise
teenagers - download ring tones, at an average cost of $2.32 a pop.
Informa, a British research and analysis firm, forecasts that ring tones
will grow to a $6.8 billion global business in 2010 from nearly $5
billion in 2005, with the North American business growing to $1.5
billion from $510 million. Who knew?

Now, it seems, every media business is in search of its variation on the
ring-tone premise. Last week, we learned that both Google and Amazon.com
were working on services that would allow readers to buy electronic
versions of books, either by the page or by the chapter.
In one respect, this sounds like very much a back-to-the-future concept,
harking back to the days when Dickens's work first appeared in serial
form. But, really, it's probably less about reading the latest "Harry
Potter" installment a bit at a time than it is about parceling out
passages and chapters of books for how-to or research purposes. Just as
a music lover may want to buy a great single but not the whole album, a
student may want a relevant chapter for her research but not the entire
book.

Another recent twist on this theme is Apple's ingenious idea to sell
rock videos to download on its latest iPod; Apple proudly declared that
it sold its first million video downloads, at $1.99 apiece, in less than
three weeks. Among the top sellers it cited were music videos from
Michael Jackson and Kanye West, short films from Pixar and episodes of
ABC network television hits, including "Lost" and "Desperate
Housewives."

While Apple did not break down the downloads by type, the fact that any
music videos have a retail monetary value is fairly remarkable. After
all, music companies largely produce them as promotional vehicles in the
hope that they will gain attention from MTV or its imitators. And there
are already countless Web sites for viewing them free. Who knew?

The latest entrant in these sweepstakes was the exciting but complicated
news from CBS and NBC Universal that they had separately entered into
video-on-demand deals to sell fresh reruns of some of their most popular
programs at 99 cents each. CBS made its deal with Comcast, the big cable
company, while NBC Universal's was with DirecTV, the satellite TV giant
controlled by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation. 

In the case of CBS it has agreed - in markets where it owns its own TV
stations, as opposed to where it supplies programs to independently
owned affiliates - to let Comcast digital cable subscribers buy episodes
of four top shows, including "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," from
within hours of their initial broadcast until the next episode is
broadcast a week later. NBC Universal is offering a total of six shows,
including "Law & Order: SVU," in a similar fashion on DirecTV. Unlike
the CBS shows on Comcast, NBC's shows on DirecTV will initially be free
of advertisements; but to buy them on demand, a DirecTV subscriber will
need a new version of a digital video recorder that is about to hit
stores.

Everyone involved cautioned that these were just baby steps. But the
bigger point is that it is now possible to envision a world not too far
in the future where all imaginable types of programs, including the
latest movies and top-rated network TV shows, are available through some
kind of download or video-on-demand system. 

Then again, both the CBS and NBC ventures instantly conjured a good deal
of skepticism. An obvious question is this: Who on earth will pay for a
rerun of a show that he or she can watch free in the first place? More
and more people have digital video recorders like TiVo that simply
record free programs onto a hard drive, letting viewers enjoy them
anytime and fast-forward through the commercials. (In NBC's deal, it's a
doubly relevant point, because you actually need that new DVR in order
to buy these shows on demand after they've been broadcast.)

The answer from all involved is that they still expect most viewers to
watch their favorite shows when the networks have scheduled them - and,
of course, the networks want their advertisers and affiliates to be
reassured that they really, really believe this. This new
video-on-demand window, they say, is simply a way to capture easy money
from people who either don't have DVR's or forgot to record a show. Even
better, the networks say, the water-cooler buzz about a great episode
the previous night may spur some people to buy a show they wouldn't have
watched in the first place, get hooked and then tune in for the next
episode.

The funny thing is, it may work. After all, TV producers have found
unexpected riches in selling DVD compilations of popular new shows,
proving that consumers are not averse to paying for something that they
might find on reruns or in syndication, if they just bothered to look.

TWO lessons are apparent in all these attempts to revamp media business
models. One is that the limits of what people will pay for
personalization - getting what they want, when they want it - have yet
to be tested. The other is that consumers are not nearly as pragmatic as
they may imagine themselves. 

A case in point: remember all those late fees that Blockbuster used to
charge on video rentals? Pragmatic folks would have returned the videos
on time. Another example: just this morning I brewed a pot of coffee at
home, drank a cup and poured the rest down the sink. The pragmatic me
would fill up before I left the house, or maybe get an old-school
Thermos. The real me bought another cup from the vendor on the corner
outside the office just as I arrived for work.

As media companies slice and dice their products into new businesses,
the central issue is not so much whether they will work as how well they
will work. Just as the ring tone has not saved the music industry - it
has only mitigated its troubles - will gains from chapters-on-demand or
video-on-demand offset the digital challenges of the publishing and
video industries?

Who knows? 


? Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company


From missingchicagomarshall at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 13 16:10:59 2005
From: missingchicagomarshall at yahoo.com (david marshall)
Date: Sun Nov 13 17:13:17 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] 1988 HAIR /Chicago VIC Theater
Message-ID: <20051114001059.69064.qmail@web31714.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

David Anthony Marshall(George Berger in frmr life) would like to connect with friends from the show and I lost all memorabilia from show in 95 fire and would love photos, videos, etc.... anybody? Hope all are well.
Peace

		
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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Sun Nov 13 19:14:01 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sun Nov 13 19:23:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at UVM - An Overview
References: <200511122000.jACK0E48016199@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <008301c5e8c9$764fa9d0$6401a8c0@Leo>

Just as a warning, this'll be long so if ya don't wanna read it move onward.
Saturday night Judy, my son Matt, & I went to see the production of HAIR 
being offered at the University of Vermont. I suppose I should pre-empt this 
by stating that there was a full military funeral held Saturday morning for 
a 2004 graduate of UVM who was killed in Iraq. Also, we were seeing the 
second of 2 shows on this day. Apparently there was an afternoon matinee 
AFTER the military funeral.
I took my camera with me as I was hoping to take some shots of the stage and 
the Tribe after the show; so, when I arrived at the box office, I asked who 
I needed to speak to in order to make this happen. I was directed to Molly 
who was the public relations head for the theater department. She told me in 
no uncertain terms that it was a violation of the copyrights for me to take 
pictures. I explained I didn't want to take photos during the show but would 
love to take some shots afterwards. Molly persisted with no, no, no and went 
on to say that the ushers were under strict orders to take cameras away from 
anyone trying to enter the theater with one! Finally, I said I was hoping to 
get some pictures so I could send them to the HAIR archives. Molly again 
said no but relented on taking my camera away from me; she gave the ushers 
the thumbs up to at least allow me to take the camera into the theater. I 
sat down and about 5 minutes later Molly came over and said I could take 
pictures during curtain call but NOT before. She also said that they would 
be taking production photos after the final show and would send me a dvd 
copy of them for the archives. Talk about a turn around. Now on with the 
overview.
The stage was completely sheilded by sheets so I had no idea what the set 
looked like but when the strains of AQUARIUS began to play there were these 
beautiful silhouetted images of the Tribe on the sheet panels. I did miss 
the "ritual" (cutting a snipet of Claude's hair) at the beginning 
but............. Then suddenly all the sheets were torn down and we see the 
Tribe and set for the first time. The "set" was actually just a bare stage 
with a few tires, trash cans, and milk crates around the perimeter. There 
was scaffolding set up upstage and the pit was actually on the upper level 
of it. Costumes were fine. Most of the Tribe wore Converse sneakers (looking 
fresh out of the box). No one was barefoot or wore sandals. I saw very few 
beads and no feathers. There were dashikis, torn, patched pants, bell 
bottoms, tie dye shirts, etc. About half the females wore bras and I saw 
thongs a few times throughout the night. Sheila was garbed in a brightly 
colored midriff top with puffy sleeves and a brightly colored gauzy long, 
flowing skirt which reminded me of a gypsy. Hair (or wigs) were very 
believable and looked far out!
There was only one black Tribe member, a male, who had on heavy blue eye 
shadow.
The pit consisted of lead guitar, rhythm guitar, bass, drums, 2 trumpets, 
trombone, baritone sax, and keyboard. They played well but I thought they 
were very muted, quiet.
The choreography was rock solid and very inspired! This Tribe moved together 
man! But this was sort of a paradox in that the director rarely had them 
"hooked up" other than in the dance numbers. The choreography on AIN'T GOT 
NO was wonderful and energetic and ditto that with GOING DOWN. At the 
beginning of THE BED the Tribe draped the stage with this huge piece of 
plastic (like you'd see in construction sites or over windows in the 
winter). There was a lot of humping and grinding during the number and at 
one point they were completely engulfed in the plastic. Very cool!
Vocally they were strong as a group. Sheila had a great belt voice but held 
back at times and even spoke some lyrics during EASY TO BE HARD. Berger was 
ok vocally and Claude was pretty good. Jeannie had a great voice. Woof did a 
nice job vocally too and was my favorite character. Lots of energy and great 
stage presence. There was also a male Tribe member who was right on 
throughout with his energy, enthusiasm, and character. Not to say that 
others weren't but he really stood out to me.
Highlights of act 1 were AIN'T GOT NO and the BE-IN where they looped these 
long, wispy fabric thingies over the stage and kept them in motion. DON'T 
PUT IT DOWN was sung standing in a trapdoor under the stage (where Jeannie 
makes her appearance with AIR) but we never see a flag. Margaret Meade was 
funny but didn't really have a great falsetto so when it comes to the drawn 
out "actuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally", Hubert sings it in this high 
tenor voice. It caught me off guard but was actually very funny. Act 1 ended 
with the BE-IN instead of WHERE DO I GO. I sat there momentarily stupefied. 
Claude approaches the draft card barbecue with his card, hesitates, then 
runs away as act 1 ends.
Act 2 really got the Tribe cranking with energy & passion! It was definitely 
the better of the 2 acts. It opens with Claude running back onto stage and 
singing a somewhat uninspired WHERE DO I GO. BLACK BOYS/WHITE BOYS rocked 
and the "trip sequence" was outasite! I have never seen a production where 
every piece of incidental music was used until I saw this one. During the 
Clark Gable, Scarlett O'Hara, John Wilkes Booth, etc. scene the Tribe 
members had masks of these people on the tops of their head so their heads 
were bent when they delivered the lines but the audience saw the masks. Very 
cool. When 3-5-0-0 started everyone except Sheila, Berger, and Jeannie (who 
were garbed as US soldiers) had on Viet straw hats (I can't think of the 
word for them right now) with their hands bound behind their backs and their 
heads bowed as they were marched out onto stage in low lighting. On the 
lyric, "Prisoners in Niggertown it's a dirt, little war" they lifted their 
heads and to reveal that they all had on these gold colored half masks. 
Extremely eerie and disconcerting. They were then marched down the trapdoor 
under the stage and fired upon while the 3 US soldiers laughed. WHAT A PIECE 
OF WORK IS MAN was sung by 2 male members of the pit! During GOOD MORNING 
STARSHINE the dialogue of "fuckety fuck" etc. was overlapped over the top of 
it. FLESH FAILURES/LET THE SUN SHINE IN was powerful and kicked ass. Oh, 
almost forgot to mention, during the "role call" (Epstein, Bukowski) scene 
they had a uniform on a coat stand at center stage and when the "moms and 
dads" delivered their lines like "Be a man" or "Son, you don't know how 
proud I am of you today" they gave those lines to the uniform. Powerful 
stuff. Curtain call was to HIPPIE LIFE and I was taking pictures like mad 
but the Tribe was moving so fast that most of the pics didn't come out that 
well. Boo hoo!!
No Nudity but no songs were cut.
All in all a very wonderful performance. I believe they had a Tribe of 24 
not including the pit.
That's it for now. Told ya it was gonna be long. My apologies.

PEACE,
Leo 


From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 13 20:06:52 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Sun Nov 13 20:16:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair reference
In-Reply-To: <200511132000.jADK09PC018795@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20051114040652.75171.qmail@web34504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yet another popular culture HAIR reference....
(my favorite recent one still being the ending of
40-year-old Virgin)

My fiance and I rented the new version of Charlie and
the Chocolate Factory and Willy Wonka's first greeting
to the golden ticket winners is "Good morning
starshine. The Earth says hello!"




- Amy

"in time of lilacs who proclaim/ the aim of waking is to dream" - e.e. cummings

"Life is around you and in you . . . Let the sunshine in!" - HAIR (the musical)


	
		
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Nov 13 21:10:16 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Nov 13 21:20:24 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR at UVM - An Overview
In-Reply-To: <008301c5e8c9$764fa9d0$6401a8c0@Leo>
Message-ID: <BF9D5C38.25B04%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks, Leo
Michael

> Just as a warning, this'll be long so if ya don't wanna read it move onward.
> Saturday night Judy, my son Matt, & I went to see the production of HAIR
> being offered at the University of Vermont. I suppose I should pre-empt this
> by stating that there was a full military funeral held Saturday morning for
> a 2004 graduate of UVM who was killed in Iraq. Also, we were seeing the
> second of 2 shows on this day. Apparently there was an afternoon matinee
> AFTER the military funeral.
> I took my camera with me as I was hoping to take some shots of the stage and
> the Tribe after the show; so, when I arrived at the box office, I asked who
> I needed to speak to in order to make this happen. I was directed to Molly
> who was the public relations head for the theater department. She told me in
> no uncertain terms that it was a violation of the copyrights for me to take
> pictures. I explained I didn't want to take photos during the show but would
> love to take some shots afterwards. Molly persisted with no, no, no and went
> on to say that the ushers were under strict orders to take cameras away from
> anyone trying to enter the theater with one! Finally, I said I was hoping to
> get some pictures so I could send them to the HAIR archives. Molly again
> said no but relented on taking my camera away from me; she gave the ushers
> the thumbs up to at least allow me to take the camera into the theater. I
> sat down and about 5 minutes later Molly came over and said I could take
> pictures during curtain call but NOT before. She also said that they would
> be taking production photos after the final show and would send me a dvd
> copy of them for the archives. Talk about a turn around. Now on with the
> overview.
> The stage was completely sheilded by sheets so I had no idea what the set
> looked like but when the strains of AQUARIUS began to play there were these
> beautiful silhouetted images of the Tribe on the sheet panels. I did miss
> the "ritual" (cutting a snipet of Claude's hair) at the beginning
> but............. Then suddenly all the sheets were torn down and we see the
> Tribe and set for the first time. The "set" was actually just a bare stage
> with a few tires, trash cans, and milk crates around the perimeter. There
> was scaffolding set up upstage and the pit was actually on the upper level
> of it. Costumes were fine. Most of the Tribe wore Converse sneakers (looking
> fresh out of the box). No one was barefoot or wore sandals. I saw very few
> beads and no feathers. There were dashikis, torn, patched pants, bell
> bottoms, tie dye shirts, etc. About half the females wore bras and I saw
> thongs a few times throughout the night. Sheila was garbed in a brightly
> colored midriff top with puffy sleeves and a brightly colored gauzy long,
> flowing skirt which reminded me of a gypsy. Hair (or wigs) were very
> believable and looked far out!
> There was only one black Tribe member, a male, who had on heavy blue eye
> shadow.
> The pit consisted of lead guitar, rhythm guitar, bass, drums, 2 trumpets,
> trombone, baritone sax, and keyboard. They played well but I thought they
> were very muted, quiet.
> The choreography was rock solid and very inspired! This Tribe moved together
> man! But this was sort of a paradox in that the director rarely had them
> "hooked up" other than in the dance numbers. The choreography on AIN'T GOT
> NO was wonderful and energetic and ditto that with GOING DOWN. At the
> beginning of THE BED the Tribe draped the stage with this huge piece of
> plastic (like you'd see in construction sites or over windows in the
> winter). There was a lot of humping and grinding during the number and at
> one point they were completely engulfed in the plastic. Very cool!
> Vocally they were strong as a group. Sheila had a great belt voice but held
> back at times and even spoke some lyrics during EASY TO BE HARD. Berger was
> ok vocally and Claude was pretty good. Jeannie had a great voice. Woof did a
> nice job vocally too and was my favorite character. Lots of energy and great
> stage presence. There was also a male Tribe member who was right on
> throughout with his energy, enthusiasm, and character. Not to say that
> others weren't but he really stood out to me.
> Highlights of act 1 were AIN'T GOT NO and the BE-IN where they looped these
> long, wispy fabric thingies over the stage and kept them in motion. DON'T
> PUT IT DOWN was sung standing in a trapdoor under the stage (where Jeannie
> makes her appearance with AIR) but we never see a flag. Margaret Meade was
> funny but didn't really have a great falsetto so when it comes to the drawn
> out "actuaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally", Hubert sings it in this high
> tenor voice. It caught me off guard but was actually very funny. Act 1 ended
> with the BE-IN instead of WHERE DO I GO. I sat there momentarily stupefied.
> Claude approaches the draft card barbecue with his card, hesitates, then
> runs away as act 1 ends.
> Act 2 really got the Tribe cranking with energy & passion! It was definitely
> the better of the 2 acts. It opens with Claude running back onto stage and
> singing a somewhat uninspired WHERE DO I GO. BLACK BOYS/WHITE BOYS rocked
> and the "trip sequence" was outasite! I have never seen a production where
> every piece of incidental music was used until I saw this one. During the
> Clark Gable, Scarlett O'Hara, John Wilkes Booth, etc. scene the Tribe
> members had masks of these people on the tops of their head so their heads
> were bent when they delivered the lines but the audience saw the masks. Very
> cool. When 3-5-0-0 started everyone except Sheila, Berger, and Jeannie (who
> were garbed as US soldiers) had on Viet straw hats (I can't think of the
> word for them right now) with their hands bound behind their backs and their
> heads bowed as they were marched out onto stage in low lighting. On the
> lyric, "Prisoners in Niggertown it's a dirt, little war" they lifted their
> heads and to reveal that they all had on these gold colored half masks.
> Extremely eerie and disconcerting. They were then marched down the trapdoor
> under the stage and fired upon while the 3 US soldiers laughed. WHAT A PIECE
> OF WORK IS MAN was sung by 2 male members of the pit! During GOOD MORNING
> STARSHINE the dialogue of "fuckety fuck" etc. was overlapped over the top of
> it. FLESH FAILURES/LET THE SUN SHINE IN was powerful and kicked ass. Oh,
> almost forgot to mention, during the "role call" (Epstein, Bukowski) scene
> they had a uniform on a coat stand at center stage and when the "moms and
> dads" delivered their lines like "Be a man" or "Son, you don't know how
> proud I am of you today" they gave those lines to the uniform. Powerful
> stuff. Curtain call was to HIPPIE LIFE and I was taking pictures like mad
> but the Tribe was moving so fast that most of the pics didn't come out that
> well. Boo hoo!!
> No Nudity but no songs were cut.
> All in all a very wonderful performance. I believe they had a Tribe of 24
> not including the pit.
> That's it for now. Told ya it was gonna be long. My apologies.
> 
> PEACE,
> Leo 
> 
> 
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From bgonzal at rci.rutgers.edu  Mon Nov 14 06:15:52 2005
From: bgonzal at rci.rutgers.edu (Wm-A Gonzalez)
Date: Mon Nov 14 06:24:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
References: <000e01c5e6fd$1e9c47c0$1fb1e804@pkorda>
Message-ID: <01e401c5e925$eb7e1e60$edde0680@Romano>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Korda" <paul@paulkorda.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


> ... I would base the show around the tribe at
> a campfire, having grown older, reminiscing about various songs and
> re-enacting them... In the format of "Hair We Are Again" the rights
> problems would be minimal as re-doing an old song needs no permission.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this holds 
true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) already owns 
the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific rights 
need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a new work 
which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do not need 
permission to record a published song, but you do still need to pay the 
related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.

-Bil Gonzalez

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 06:18:43 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 06:28:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
References: <000e01c5e6fd$1e9c47c0$1fb1e804@pkorda>
	<01e401c5e925$eb7e1e60$edde0680@Romano>
Message-ID: <000601c5e926$5197f770$f1476c42@hotprojects>

youre allowed to improv in plays like hair and godspell
because the precedent is they were always done this way
and there is indication in the scripts for this improvisation
basically any additions have to be very few words
and mainly in terms of direction

i wouldnt put them at a campfire
i would go a step further
its now 2015 etc and it takes place at a senior center
wild
lol
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Korda" <paul@paulkorda.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:18 PM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
>
>
> > ... I would base the show around the tribe at
> > a campfire, having grown older, reminiscing about various songs and
> > re-enacting them... In the format of "Hair We Are Again" the rights
> > problems would be minimal as re-doing an old song needs no permission.
>
> Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this holds
> true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) already
owns
> the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific
rights
> need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a new
work
> which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do not
need
> permission to record a published song, but you do still need to pay the
> related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
>
> -Bil Gonzalez
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From katiekasben at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 14 06:41:54 2005
From: katiekasben at hotmail.com (Katie Kasben)
Date: Mon Nov 14 06:50:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
In-Reply-To: <02f501c5e6e9$7d2bad30$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F13E4B9EE765671793BAC8AD5A0@phx.gbl>

Well,
If you are reminiscing around a campfire, then you will certainly need 
flashbacks won't you?

I'm there.

*see, best of both worlds.  It's all one!!!!!!

Love,
Katie



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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 06:50:43 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 07:00:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] hair again
References: <BAY109-F13E4B9EE765671793BAC8AD5A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001701c5e92a$ccf47c00$f1476c42@hotprojects>

the campfire thing is more ordinary
less dramatic action
i think

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katie Kasben" <katiekasben@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] hair again


> Well,
> If you are reminiscing around a campfire, then you will certainly need
> flashbacks won't you?
>
> I'm there.
>
> *see, best of both worlds.  It's all one!!!!!!
>
> Love,
> Katie
>
>
>
> <html><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV></DIV><FONT face="Garamond, Times, Serif" color=#cc00ff><EM>ALOHA NUI
> LOA! <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif"
> width=12></EM></FONT></html>
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 14 06:55:20 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Nov 14 07:04:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
In-Reply-To: <01e401c5e925$eb7e1e60$edde0680@Romano>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F156C51ED6B35EEA880DE29B25A0@phx.gbl>

You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you would need 
the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. You are 
also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a song, but 
that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running performance piece, 
but only on a recording.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




>From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>

>
>Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this holds 
>true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) already owns 
>the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific rights 
>need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a new work 
>which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do not 
>need permission to record a published song, but you do still need to pay 
>the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
>
>-Bil Gonzalez


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 07:03:37 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 07:13:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
References: <BAY104-F156C51ED6B35EEA880DE29B25A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701c5e92c$979cddc0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced "
eg if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly
repeatedly and nothing was done
that might be construed as a tacit permission
of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on everything
it cant be too radically different obviously
its very tangled
and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
have to be satisfied
thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead of
revivals

as an experienced producer though
the way to circumvent if youre lucky
is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta etc
large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; old
ballroom or whatver )
big enough to call in major media\
small enough not to set flags off
if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major media
they will have to do business with you veritably
because yours will be the production everyone wants
eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles production
of sunset blvd
when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
glenn got hot and it didnt matter
they had to pay  patti off etc

similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media in
second city
would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
arguably
very tudor stewart political etc\

?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


> You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you would
need
> the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. You are
> also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a song, but
> that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running performance
piece,
> but only on a recording.
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
>
> >
> >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this
holds
> >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) already
owns
> >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific
rights
> >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a new
work
> >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do not
> >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need to pay
> >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> >
> >-Bil Gonzalez
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 07:09:17 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 07:18:42 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] i still love the idea for the senior production of
	changing the lyrics in donna to
Message-ID: <000801c5e92d$62c7f980$f1476c42@hotprojects>

THERE WAS A 60 YEAR OLD VIRGIN
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From bev at beverlybremers.com  Mon Nov 14 11:54:56 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Mon Nov 14 12:03:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
Message-ID: <20051114195456.97B062F94C@ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com>

Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I would too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all, you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with your material without your input and control? As much as we all think HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.

Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)

Beverly


----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500

> 
> he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced "
> eg if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly
> repeatedly and nothing was done
> that might be construed as a tacit permission
> of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on everything
> it cant be too radically different obviously
> its very tangled
> and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> have to be satisfied
> thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead of
> revivals
> 
> as an experienced producer though
> the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta etc
> large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; old
> ballroom or whatver )
> big enough to call in major media\
> small enough not to set flags off
> if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major media
> they will have to do business with you veritably
> because yours will be the production everyone wants
> eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles production
> of sunset blvd
> when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> they had to pay  patti off etc
> 
> similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media in
> second city
> would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
> arguably
> very tudor stewart political etc\
> 
> ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> 
> 
> > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you would
> need
> > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. You are
> > also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a song, but
> > that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running performance
> piece,
> > but only on a recording.
> > Nina
> >
> > The Hair Archives
> > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> >
> > >
> > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this
> holds
> > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) already
> owns
> > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific
> rights
> > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a new
> work
> > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do not
> > >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need to pay
> > >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> > >
> > >-Bil Gonzalez
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
> _______________________________________________
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www.voicercise.net


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 12:12:58 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 12:22:26 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
References: <20051114195456.97B062F94C@ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <008201c5e957$ceea3810$f1476c42@hotprojects>

do you know bev\
i was once approached in all seriousness by universal to write " BALD "
LOL
i was in my 20s a hair freak and horrified


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


> Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I would
too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the authors,
your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd live would be
in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all, you've infringed on
the author's copyrights and if you change the lyrics, the parody law kicks
in and you have to get permission. Put yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes.
Would you want someone tampering with your material without your input and
control? As much as we all think HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only
it's spirit is ours.
>
> Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
>
> Beverly
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
>
> >
> > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced "
> > eg if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly
> > repeatedly and nothing was done
> > that might be construed as a tacit permission
> > of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on everything
> > it cant be too radically different obviously
> > its very tangled
> > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > have to be satisfied
> > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead of
> > revivals
> >
> > as an experienced producer though
> > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta
etc
> > large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; old
> > ballroom or whatver )
> > big enough to call in major media\
> > small enough not to set flags off
> > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
media
> > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
production
> > of sunset blvd
> > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > they had to pay  patti off etc
> >
> > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media
in
> > second city
> > would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
> > arguably
> > very tudor stewart political etc\
> >
> > ?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> >
> >
> > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you would
> > need
> > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. You
are
> > > also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a song,
but
> > > that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running performance
> > piece,
> > > but only on a recording.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > The Hair Archives
> > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that this
> > holds
> > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS)
already
> > owns
> > > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that specific
> > rights
> > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a
new
> > work
> > > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do
not
> > > >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need to
pay
> > > >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> > > >
> > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mb-hair mailing list
> > > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
>
>
>
> Visit my websites:
> www.beverlybremers.com
> www.voicercise.net
>
>
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 12:18:34 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 12:28:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor of 
Message-ID: <00ae01c5e958$96bade30$f1476c42@hotprojects>

he had come to a similar conclusion himself

galt is the one who says thats verboten

there is someway for improvisition as indicated in the acting versions

eg the recent gate production took great liberties

as i have heard many of the companies on the road put the nude scene in walking in space

so there are precedents
but yes the authors have ultimate power
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Mon Nov 14 06:25:39 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Mon Nov 14 13:27:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center 
Message-ID: <43789E63.DB2D5437@t-online.de>

this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy
hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of
aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love
you all  vincent

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 13:45:51 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 13:55:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
References: <43789E63.DB2D5437@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <015401c5e964$c87a0b10$f1476c42@hotprojects>

yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people

everyone wants to do it
including jimmy

galt doesnt want it
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center


> this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy
> hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
> wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of
> aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love
> you all  vincent
> 
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 14 15:00:06 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Mon Nov 14 15:09:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
Message-ID: <BAY104-F38F6BB778C413C9A1D406CB25A0@phx.gbl>

Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has become 
of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting and 
possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book and score. 
Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented 
writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express what 
you're trying to say in a new project.

We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to 
recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to have the 
involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.

So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave it 
alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why there is 
always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new contexts, when there 
is so little interest in this for other musicals? Why do we never see such 
totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, or West Side Story? Why does no 
one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in other 
places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to it's times, 
but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so prevalent 
today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing versions of WSS set in 
the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't feel 
that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to 
understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand that I 
am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering why this topic 
is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely with 
other pieces.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




>From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
>
>yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
>
>everyone wants to do it
>including jimmy
>
>galt doesnt want it


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Mon Nov 14 16:01:45 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Mon Nov 14 16:11:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
References: <BAY104-F38F6BB778C413C9A1D406CB25A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001a01c5e977$c4aae000$f1476c42@hotprojects>

its not turning hair into a new show
this is how direction and mis en scene evolves

and the authors would naturally be involved in any production of HAIR that i
did
i am in constant touch with them

and yes once you set the context
and its the same script
yes it is HAIR
its not the same production
but yes it would be HAIR
and Jimmy Rado shares this vision in fact
that sound that came off the floor in the reunion is HAIR
MORE HAIR THAN ANY OTHER COMPANY

and i have more new high end projects than anyone the planet
but
HAIR like a piece of mozart or bizets carmen or something by dostoyevsky
is very special

the reason this discussion comes up with HAIR is the notion of ground
breaking of freshness
is very much a part of the zeitgeist of the show; so the notion of keeping
it fresh and freshness
is part of HAIRS inherent makeup

thats why

and yes i would set west side story now
and without changing a word make it black and puerto rican
the jets as in jet black are a black gang
thats whos living up there now



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center


> Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
become
> of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting and
> possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book and
score.
> Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented
> writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express what
> you're trying to say in a new project.
>
> We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to
> recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to have
the
> involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
>
> So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave it
> alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why there is
> always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new contexts, when there
> is so little interest in this for other musicals? Why do we never see such
> totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, or West Side Story? Why does
no
> one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in other
> places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to it's
times,
> but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so prevalent
> today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing versions of WSS set
in
> the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
feel
> that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to
> understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand that I
> am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering why this
topic
> is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely with
> other pieces.
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> >
> >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> >
> >everyone wants to do it
> >including jimmy
> >
> >galt doesnt want it
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
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From tiogajoe at juno.com  Mon Nov 14 19:16:57 2005
From: tiogajoe at juno.com (tiogajoe@juno.com)
Date: Mon Nov 14 19:26:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A Mouse Told Me
Message-ID: <20051114.191704.26945.126639@webmail43.lax.untd.com>

Hey, Robert!  A Very Belated Happy Birthday to you!  
Okay, so it took a while for that mouse to get my attention (been busy and all that jazz), but I saw this posting (finally) and wanted to give you my best wishes, 'cause I've enjoyed getting to meet you and hang with you (even if only briefly) at a couple of our most recent HAIR happenings (Bridgefield, Bridgeport [or where ever it was in Connecticut] and then the Reunion in NYC).  You're a great contribution to the HAIR family, and I feel lucky to have been able to know you as more than just a name on the List.  Keep up the good work and add many more years to your being here (and thereby being the positive contributor you have been to the stewardship of this planet Earth of ours).  
Beads, Love, Freedom, Happiness,
--Tioga Joe
====================================
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:19:19 -0400
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>

Robert,
That today is a great one
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Hope your leg is better.
And see you soon
Michael

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From: tiogajoe at juno.com (tiogajoe@juno.com)
Date: Mon Nov 14 20:24:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Weed and such
Message-ID: <20051114.201312.26945.127181@webmail43.lax.untd.com>

 Just IMHO:
Smoke in the lungs being unsafe:  
Probably.  Hard to argue against.  But still, I don't want smoking outlawed.  You may catch me smoking Cavendish in a briarwood pipe as I stroll to the fishing pier late at night.  In a way, it signals that stand.  England's King James hated the smoking of the evil weed tobacco back in the early 1600's.  Had he had his way, English-speaking America may never have taken root in Jamestown, Virginia, and we may well have ended up speaking a different language in America today.  I'm glad the smoke merchants succeeded.
Cannabis smoke stinking:
Yeah, I've smelled some pretty stinky stuff -- yet even that had some adequate results (altering-of-states-of-consciousness-wise), but, man, the good stuff?  That smell is good enough to can in an aerosol can of air-freshener!  I've almost gotten whip-lash when catching a whiff and then searching the environs to figure out the source!  It's a pretty smell.  No stink at all.  But, yeah, there's some stinky stuff out there (30 years ago when I was a waiter in a restaurant in Billsburg, Virginia, the busboy had some stinky pot.  It smelled awful.  But he was a happy busboy [hard to find] and he did his part to make sure at least one of the waiters he worked for was happy, too!).
Beach Boys:
I turned on to the Beach Boys as a young teen when they first started making waves in the early-mid '60s, and that was LONG before I allowed myself to investigate pot, so I had (and have) no drug connections to their music (even if there were some).  Brian Wilson and his Beach Boys spoke to me through their music.  That music (and lyrics) continue to be for me all that's necessary to get into that groove.
Regarding New Jersey's "Weed Man," I'm afraid it may be discovered that I voted for him.  Hell, I dislike both the major candidates for Governorship, so, hell, I figured I might as well make that point as strongly as I could (and with some measure of a sense of humor, eh?)
Regarding legalizing, ... well, you said it.
And the fifth?  Yeah, I take the fifth (I also bought a fifth, which, apparently, is still legal).
Anyway, all of the above is only alleged to have come from me.  These opinions are not necessarily those of the author (am I paranoid, or what?).
Yadda, yadda, yadda, have a good day, and all that jazz,
Joseph Livingstone de Tioga
====================================== 
Sean Courtney <dauber@banana-and-louie.org> wrote:
    On 10/15/2005, Robin McNamara wrote:

    > There are many things that marijuana is good for both physical &
    > mental. Our government refuses to study it properly & spreads garbage
    > propaganda of how bad it is for you. Carl Sagen, said that marijuana
    > gave him intellectual insight.

    I don't blame the government, and I'll tell ya why: ours is by far not the
    only government to outlaw it. Very few countries allow it.

    My overall thoughts:

    1) Whether it be pot, tobacco, or hickory, putting ANY smoke in your lungs
    ain't safe -- that's why the fire department tells you to get as close to
    the ground as you can, so you don't breathe it in! And that's why your 
lungs
    force it out.

    2) The stuff stinks...literally! Either that or the stuff I got a whiff of
    at the McCartney concerts (and the one Brian Wilson show I w ent to where
    someone lit up a blunt -- I'm sorry, but 1) you shouldn't light up when
    you're ten feet away from a recovering drug addict, and 2) of all the songs
    in the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys catalog to turn on to, "Sloop John 
B" is NOT
    a good one to do that to!!!!) I've been to was rancid....seriously, that
    stuff smelled like....well, sadly, what my feet smell like right now. 

    3) However, I wouldn't step in the way of legalizing it. In fact...here in
    NJ there's this guy known as "NJ Weed Man" who's been arrested 
several times
    for possessing the stuff. He's RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR!!! and promises to
    legalize the ganja here in the state. I'm seriously
    thinking of voting for the dude -- he's much more qualified than the two
    bozos in the democratic and republican parties who are running. I'm not
    bashing republicans and democrats or anything, but the candidates for NJ
    governor just don't give me a good feeling.

    4) It really would be in the government's best interest to legalize it, 
what
    with the taxes they could put on it, medicinal qualities, etc.

    5) Uhhh...nothing else, really...I just wanted a fifth point. :)

    --
    dauber@banana-and-louie.org

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Date: Tue Nov 15 07:50:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] disinHAIRited
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hi tribe looks like jim and gerry already had the title for the old age
of aquarius written way back  disinHAIRited love you all  vincent

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From paul at paulkorda.com  Tue Nov 15 12:58:33 2005
From: paul at paulkorda.com (Paul Korda)
Date: Tue Nov 15 13:12:53 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair We are Again-Bald-DisinHAIRited!
In-Reply-To: <200511152000.jAFK0EV1024281@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <001901c5ea27$59d0afc0$d6b1e804@pkorda>

Love your comic relief Vinnie and Richard. Alright tribe, you all have
good points, and Michael is right. A new musical.
 I have it, at least the total concept, treatment, location scouting,
everything but the dialogue. It's called "Coming To". It could be
entitled Tribes, but I'd be afraid of the prejudices of separation of
one humanity into parts. The concept is based around an
singer-songwriter trying to make his last ditch attempt for expression,
up against the law. In two court cases, one where he is finally paid his
royalties in the UK and the other, in the US, where they are ordered
taken away from him. He arrives in the US to 9/11, having traveled to LA
the day before. In an effort to escape the consequences of having
everything taken from him and eventually being unable to afford to make
music anymore, he drives in his old Honda, ladened with keyboard and the
few things he has left, up the coast. He finds himself that night, alone
on a beach in N. California, his past behind him, and witnessing a
storm, the waves lashing, the white foam of the surf barely lit under a
cloudy, raging moon. In this transition through change, he drives across
the border to Canada, with all the cash strapped in a money belt.
Stopped at the border with all the cash, the customs agent finds his
zig-zags and asks him if he brought any smoking substance with him, not
knowing there was some in his cereal box! Of course he says no, to which
the customs guy said "Good, cause we grow the best stuff here". Based on
a true story, he takes the ferry to the heart of an ecological
sanctuary, Vancouver Island, where he meets up with a tribe of post 9/11
drop-outs of musicians, hippies, artists, extreme sportsmen, and a bunch
of older hippies who survive by cleaning the hostel where they all
stay(some of the old cast!). Each night when they are all asleep, they
awaken in their dreams, in a theatre where he writes them into an Astral
musical, and they rehearse the songs. Each day they are unaware of what
has happened, as out of the blue he gets a new idea for a song that he
has really written the night before, in his dreams. A bond between them
all begins to develop until they eventually realize what is happening.
The story progresses to understand their search for their reasons to be
alive at this time. The stories of post 9/11 echo in their decision to
escape their pasts to get perspective on what is happening to the World
now. 
Anyway, things get quite dramatic after he returns to LA, to the stark
contrast in idealism between the Island and LA, where he is eventually
arrested. Yet the conclusion is that those who trust their human nature
will eventually rise above the chaos of prevailing dysfunction and
disorder. The idea could be staged, but also would make a good lower
budget movie, as part of the filming would be in Canada. Anyway it's
just one idea I registered at the copyright office! The theme song is on
"Not for Robots", along with a few others that I put on the cd. Peter
Guber of Flashdance and Tommy fame seemed to like it, but I've been
waiting to contact him again, with a little more ammunition for the
cause, such as another well known musical producer and possibly another
well known musical writer!
Here's hoping we all find ourselves in that Astral theatre, Coming To!

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   3. the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor of 
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:54:56 -0800
From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051114195456.97B062F94C@ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com>
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Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I
would too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.

Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)

Beverly


----- Original Message -----
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500

> 
> he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg if

> the songs were used before in different contexts particularly 
> repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit 
> permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on 
> everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> its very tangled
> and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> have to be satisfied
> thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
of
> revivals
> 
> as an experienced producer though
> the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta 
> etc large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; 
> old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> small enough not to set flags off
> if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
media
> they will have to do business with you veritably
> because yours will be the production everyone wants
> eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
production
> of sunset blvd
> when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> they had to pay  patti off etc
> 
> similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media

> in second city would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
> arguably
> very tudor stewart political etc\
> 
> ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> 
> 
> > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you 
> > would
> need
> > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. 
> > You are also correct that one doesn't always need permission to 
> > record a song, but that law does not cover the use of the songs in a

> > running performance
> piece,
> > but only on a recording.
> > Nina
> >
> > The Hair Archives 
> > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> >
> > >
> > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that 
> > >this
> holds
> > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) 
> > >already
> owns
> > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that 
> > >specific
> rights
> > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a 
> > >new
> work
> > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do

> > >not need permission to record a published song, but you do still 
> > >need to pay the related royalties, and acknowledge existing 
> > >copyrights.
> > >
> > >-Bil Gonzalez
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:12:58 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <008201c5e957$ceea3810$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

do you know bev\
i was once approached in all seriousness by universal to write " BALD "
LOL i was in my 20s a hair freak and horrified


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again


> Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I 
> would
too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.
>
> Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
>
> Beverly
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
>
> >
> > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg 
> > if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly 
> > repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit 
> > permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on 
> > everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> > its very tangled
> > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > have to be satisfied
> > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
of
> > revivals
> >
> > as an experienced producer though
> > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit 
> > atlanta
etc
> > large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; 
> > old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> > small enough not to set flags off
> > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
media
> > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
production
> > of sunset blvd
> > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > they had to pay  patti off etc
> >
> > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major 
> > media
in
> > second city
> > would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al arguably
> > very tudor stewart political etc\
> >
> > ?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> >
> >
> > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you 
> > > would
> > need
> > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. 
> > > You
are
> > > also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a 
> > > song,
but
> > > that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running 
> > > performance
> > piece,
> > > but only on a recording.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > The Hair Archives 
> > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that 
> > > >this
> > holds
> > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS)
already
> > owns
> > > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that 
> > > >specific
> > rights
> > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into 
> > > >a
new
> > work
> > > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you 
> > > >do
not
> > > >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need

> > > >to
pay
> > > >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> > > >
> > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > >
> > >
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:18:34 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor
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To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
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he had come to a similar conclusion himself

galt is the one who says thats verboten

there is someway for improvisition as indicated in the acting versions

eg the recent gate production took great liberties

as i have heard many of the companies on the road put the nude scene in
walking in space

so there are precedents
but yes the authors have ultimate power
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:25:39 +0800
From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center 
To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
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this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy
hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of
aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love
you all  vincent



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
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yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people

everyone wants to do it
including jimmy

galt doesnt want it
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center


> this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy 
> hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing 
> wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of 
> aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love

> you all  vincent
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:00:06 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
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Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
become 
of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting and 
possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book and
score. 
Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented 
writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express
what 
you're trying to say in a new project.

We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to 
recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to have
the 
involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.

So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave it 
alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why there
is 
always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new contexts, when
there 
is so little interest in this for other musicals? Why do we never see
such 
totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, or West Side Story? Why does
no 
one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in
other 
places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to it's
times, 
but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so
prevalent 
today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing versions of WSS set
in 
the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
feel 
that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to 
understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand that
I 
am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering why this
topic 
is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely with 
other pieces.
Nina

The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




>From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
>Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
>
>yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
>
>everyone wants to do it
>including jimmy
>
>galt doesnt want it




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:01:45 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c5e977$c4aae000$f1476c42@hotprojects>
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its not turning hair into a new show
this is how direction and mis en scene evolves

and the authors would naturally be involved in any production of HAIR
that i did i am in constant touch with them

and yes once you set the context
and its the same script
yes it is HAIR
its not the same production
but yes it would be HAIR
and Jimmy Rado shares this vision in fact
that sound that came off the floor in the reunion is HAIR
MORE HAIR THAN ANY OTHER COMPANY

and i have more new high end projects than anyone the planet but HAIR
like a piece of mozart or bizets carmen or something by dostoyevsky is
very special

the reason this discussion comes up with HAIR is the notion of ground
breaking of freshness is very much a part of the zeitgeist of the show;
so the notion of keeping it fresh and freshness is part of HAIRS
inherent makeup

thats why

and yes i would set west side story now
and without changing a word make it black and puerto rican
the jets as in jet black are a black gang
thats whos living up there now



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center


> Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
become
> of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting 
> and possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book 
> and
score.
> Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented 
> writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express 
> what you're trying to say in a new project.
>
> We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to 
> recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to 
> have
the
> involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
>
> So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave 
> it alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why 
> there is always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new 
> contexts, when there is so little interest in this for other musicals?

> Why do we never see such totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, 
> or West Side Story? Why does
no
> one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in 
> other places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to

> it's
times,
> but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so 
> prevalent today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing 
> versions of WSS set
in
> the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
feel
> that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to 
> understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand 
> that I am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering 
> why this
topic
> is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely 
> with other pieces. Nina
>
> The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> >
> >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> >
> >everyone wants to do it
> >including jimmy
> >
> >galt doesnt want it
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:16:57 GMT
From: "tiogajoe@juno.com" <tiogajoe@juno.com>
Subject: Re:  [Mb-hair] A Mouse Told Me
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051114.191704.26945.126639@webmail43.lax.untd.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hey, Robert!  A Very Belated Happy Birthday to you!  
Okay, so it took a while for that mouse to get my attention (been busy
and all that jazz), but I saw this posting (finally) and wanted to give
you my best wishes, 'cause I've enjoyed getting to meet you and hang
with you (even if only briefly) at a couple of our most recent HAIR
happenings (Bridgefield, Bridgeport [or where ever it was in
Connecticut] and then the Reunion in NYC).  You're a great contribution
to the HAIR family, and I feel lucky to have been able to know you as
more than just a name on the List.  Keep up the good work and add many
more years to your being here (and thereby being the positive
contributor you have been to the stewardship of this planet Earth of
ours).  
Beads, Love, Freedom, Happiness,
--Tioga Joe
====================================
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:19:19 -0400
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>

Robert,
That today is a great one
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Hope your leg is better.
And see you soon
Michael

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:12:57 GMT
From: "tiogajoe@juno.com" <tiogajoe@juno.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Weed and such
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
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 Just IMHO:
Smoke in the lungs being unsafe:  
Probably.  Hard to argue against.  But still, I don't want smoking
outlawed.  You may catch me smoking Cavendish in a briarwood pipe as I
stroll to the fishing pier late at night.  In a way, it signals that
stand.  England's King James hated the smoking of the evil weed tobacco
back in the early 1600's.  Had he had his way, English-speaking America
may never have taken root in Jamestown, Virginia, and we may well have
ended up speaking a different language in America today.  I'm glad the
smoke merchants succeeded.
Cannabis smoke stinking:
Yeah, I've smelled some pretty stinky stuff -- yet even that had some
adequate results (altering-of-states-of-consciousness-wise), but, man,
the good stuff?  That smell is good enough to can in an aerosol can of
air-freshener!  I've almost gotten whip-lash when catching a whiff and
then searching the environs to figure out the source!  It's a pretty
smell.  No stink at all.  But, yeah, there's some stinky stuff out there
(30 years ago when I was a waiter in a restaurant in Billsburg,
Virginia, the busboy had some stinky pot.  It smelled awful.  But he was
a happy busboy [hard to find] and he did his part to make sure at least
one of the waiters he worked for was happy, too!).
Beach Boys:
I turned on to the Beach Boys as a young teen when they first started
making waves in the early-mid '60s, and that was LONG before I allowed
myself to investigate pot, so I had (and have) no drug connections to
their music (even if there were some).  Brian Wilson and his Beach Boys
spoke to me through their music.  That music (and lyrics) continue to be
for me all that's necessary to get into that groove.
Regarding New Jersey's "Weed Man," I'm afraid it may be discovered that
I voted for him.  Hell, I dislike both the major candidates for
Governorship, so, hell, I figured I might as well make that point as
strongly as I could (and with some measure of a sense of humor, eh?)
Regarding legalizing, ... well, you said it.
And the fifth?  Yeah, I take the fifth (I also bought a fifth, which,
apparently, is still legal).
Anyway, all of the above is only alleged to have come from me.  These
opinions are not necessarily those of the author (am I paranoid, or
what?).
Yadda, yadda, yadda, have a good day, and all that jazz,
Joseph Livingstone de Tioga
====================================== 
Sean Courtney <dauber@banana-and-louie.org> wrote:
    On 10/15/2005, Robin McNamara wrote:

    > There are many things that marijuana is good for both physical &
    > mental. Our government refuses to study it properly & spreads
garbage
    > propaganda of how bad it is for you. Carl Sagen, said that
marijuana
    > gave him intellectual insight.

    I don't blame the government, and I'll tell ya why: ours is by far
not the
    only government to outlaw it. Very few countries allow it.

    My overall thoughts:

    1) Whether it be pot, tobacco, or hickory, putting ANY smoke in your
lungs
    ain't safe -- that's why the fire department tells you to get as
close to
    the ground as you can, so you don't breathe it in! And that's why
your 
lungs
    force it out.

    2) The stuff stinks...literally! Either that or the stuff I got a
whiff of
    at the McCartney concerts (and the one Brian Wilson show I w ent to
where
    someone lit up a blunt -- I'm sorry, but 1) you shouldn't light up
when
    you're ten feet away from a recovering drug addict, and 2) of all
the songs
    in the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys catalog to turn on to, "Sloop John 
B" is NOT
    a good one to do that to!!!!) I've been to was rancid....seriously,
that
    stuff smelled like....well, sadly, what my feet smell like right
now. 

    3) However, I wouldn't step in the way of legalizing it. In
fact...here in
    NJ there's this guy known as "NJ Weed Man" who's been arrested 
several times
    for possessing the stuff. He's RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR!!! and promises
to
    legalize the ganja here in the state. I'm seriously
    thinking of voting for the dude -- he's much more qualified than the
two
    bozos in the democratic and republican parties who are running. I'm
not
    bashing republicans and democrats or anything, but the candidates
for NJ
    governor just don't give me a good feeling.

    4) It really would be in the government's best interest to legalize
it, 
what
    with the taxes they could put on it, medicinal qualities, etc.

    5) Uhhh...nothing else, really...I just wanted a fifth point. :)

    --
    dauber@banana-and-louie.org

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:49:18 +0800
From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
Subject: [Mb-hair] disinHAIRited
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hi tribe looks like jim and gerry already had the title for the old age
of aquarius written way back  disinHAIRited love you all  vincent



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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:21:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: michael@intrafi.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Decoding Mr. Bush's Denials
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Tue Nov 15 13:24:09 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Tue Nov 15 13:40:33 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair We are Again-Bald-DisinHAIRited!
References: <001901c5ea27$59d0afc0$d6b1e804@pkorda>
Message-ID: <000e01c5ea2a$eac34940$f1476c42@hotprojects>

excuse me paul it wasnt comic relief
send me a ticket to your play below
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Korda" <paul@paulkorda.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:58 PM
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Hair We are Again-Bald-DisinHAIRited!


> Love your comic relief Vinnie and Richard. Alright tribe, you all have
> good points, and Michael is right. A new musical.
>  I have it, at least the total concept, treatment, location scouting,
> everything but the dialogue. It's called "Coming To". It could be
> entitled Tribes, but I'd be afraid of the prejudices of separation of
> one humanity into parts. The concept is based around an
> singer-songwriter trying to make his last ditch attempt for expression,
> up against the law. In two court cases, one where he is finally paid his
> royalties in the UK and the other, in the US, where they are ordered
> taken away from him. He arrives in the US to 9/11, having traveled to LA
> the day before. In an effort to escape the consequences of having
> everything taken from him and eventually being unable to afford to make
> music anymore, he drives in his old Honda, ladened with keyboard and the
> few things he has left, up the coast. He finds himself that night, alone
> on a beach in N. California, his past behind him, and witnessing a
> storm, the waves lashing, the white foam of the surf barely lit under a
> cloudy, raging moon. In this transition through change, he drives across
> the border to Canada, with all the cash strapped in a money belt.
> Stopped at the border with all the cash, the customs agent finds his
> zig-zags and asks him if he brought any smoking substance with him, not
> knowing there was some in his cereal box! Of course he says no, to which
> the customs guy said "Good, cause we grow the best stuff here". Based on
> a true story, he takes the ferry to the heart of an ecological
> sanctuary, Vancouver Island, where he meets up with a tribe of post 9/11
> drop-outs of musicians, hippies, artists, extreme sportsmen, and a bunch
> of older hippies who survive by cleaning the hostel where they all
> stay(some of the old cast!). Each night when they are all asleep, they
> awaken in their dreams, in a theatre where he writes them into an Astral
> musical, and they rehearse the songs. Each day they are unaware of what
> has happened, as out of the blue he gets a new idea for a song that he
> has really written the night before, in his dreams. A bond between them
> all begins to develop until they eventually realize what is happening.
> The story progresses to understand their search for their reasons to be
> alive at this time. The stories of post 9/11 echo in their decision to
> escape their pasts to get perspective on what is happening to the World
> now. 
> Anyway, things get quite dramatic after he returns to LA, to the stark
> contrast in idealism between the Island and LA, where he is eventually
> arrested. Yet the conclusion is that those who trust their human nature
> will eventually rise above the chaos of prevailing dysfunction and
> disorder. The idea could be staged, but also would make a good lower
> budget movie, as part of the filming would be in Canada. Anyway it's
> just one idea I registered at the copyright office! The theme song is on
> "Not for Robots", along with a few others that I put on the cd. Peter
> Guber of Flashdance and Tommy fame seemed to like it, but I've been
> waiting to contact him again, with a little more ammunition for the
> cause, such as another well known musical producer and possibly another
> well known musical writer!
> Here's hoping we all find ourselves in that Astral theatre, Coming To!
> 
> Paul 
> http://PaulKorda.com   
>  
> Reply to this message to
> paul@paulkorda.com 
>  
> 
> 
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>    1. Re: Hair We Are Again (Beverly Bremers)
>    2. Re: Hair We Are Again (richard haase)
>    3. the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor of 
>       (richard haase)
>    4. senior center  (Vincent Edwards)
>    5. Re: senior center (richard haase)
>    6. Re: senior center (Little Birdie)
>    7. Re: senior center (richard haase)
>    8. Re:  A Mouse Told Me (tiogajoe@juno.com)
>    9. Re: Weed and such (tiogajoe@juno.com)
>   10. disinHAIRited (Vincent Edwards)
>   11. FT.com / Comment & analysis / Columnists - Philip Stephens: A
>       way to win young Muslim minds (michael@intrafi.com)
>   12. NYTimes.com: Decoding Mr. Bush's Denials (michael@intrafi.com)
>   13. NYTimes.com: Strange Behavior at the F.D.A. (michael@intrafi.com)
>   14. NYTimes.com: Iraq in the Rear-View Mirror (michael@intrafi.com)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:54:56 -0800
> From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <20051114195456.97B062F94C@ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com>
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> 
> Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I
> would too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
> authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
> live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
> you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
> lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
> yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
> your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
> HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.
> 
> Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
> have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
> 
> Beverly
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
> 
> > 
> > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg if
> 
> > the songs were used before in different contexts particularly 
> > repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit 
> > permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on 
> > everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> > its very tangled
> > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > have to be satisfied
> > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
> of
> > revivals
> > 
> > as an experienced producer though
> > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit atlanta 
> > etc large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; 
> > old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> > small enough not to set flags off
> > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
> media
> > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
> production
> > of sunset blvd
> > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > they had to pay  patti off etc
> > 
> > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major media
> 
> > in second city would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al
> > arguably
> > very tudor stewart political etc\
> > 
> > ?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> > 
> > 
> > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you 
> > > would
> > need
> > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. 
> > > You are also correct that one doesn't always need permission to 
> > > record a song, but that law does not cover the use of the songs in a
> 
> > > running performance
> > piece,
> > > but only on a recording.
> > > Nina
> > >
> > > The Hair Archives 
> > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that 
> > > >this
> > holds
> > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS) 
> > > >already
> > owns
> > > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that 
> > > >specific
> > rights
> > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into a 
> > > >new
> > work
> > > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you do
> 
> > > >not need permission to record a published song, but you do still 
> > > >need to pay the related royalties, and acknowledge existing 
> > > >copyrights.
> > > >
> > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
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> 
> 
> Visit my websites:
> www.beverlybremers.com
> www.voicercise.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:12:58 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <008201c5e957$ceea3810$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> do you know bev\
> i was once approached in all seriousness by universal to write " BALD "
> LOL i was in my 20s a hair freak and horrified
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Beverly Bremers" <bev@beverlybremers.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> 
> 
> > Tribe - It's all very nice that you want to perform HAIR again and I 
> > would
> too, but you've got to realize that without the permission of the
> authors, your hands are tied. The only way the songs could be performd
> live would be in a revue or club act, but if you have any book at all,
> you've infringed on the author's copyrights and if you change the
> lyrics, the parody law kicks in and you have to get permission. Put
> yourself in Jim and Galt's shoes. Would you want someone tampering with
> your material without your input and control? As much as we all think
> HAIR belongs to all of us, it doesn't. Only it's spirit is ours.
> >
> > Sorry, guys, but Michael knows what he's talking about. I'm afraid you
> have to move on. Write a new HAIR (HAIRLESS?)
> >
> > Beverly
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> > To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:03:37 -0500
> >
> > >
> > > he has though nina a little leeway by way of precedent
> > > eg corresonding to the notion of " the law as usually enforced " eg 
> > > if the songs were used before in different contexts particularly 
> > > repeatedly and nothing was done that might be construed as a tacit 
> > > permission of course we were working with jimmy gerry galt on 
> > > everything it cant be too radically different obviously
> > > its very tangled
> > > and nina brings up a particularly good pt\
> > > about authors rights not being inclusive of all performance rights
> > > yet both as of a given moment depending on circumstance
> > > have to be satisfied
> > > thats why michael butler advises me to stick to new projects instead
> of
> > > revivals
> > >
> > > as an experienced producer though
> > > the way to circumvent if youre lucky
> > > is to get the rights for a city such as san francisco detroit 
> > > atlanta
> etc
> > > large scale 1000+ venue non conventional location ( rented hall ; 
> > > old ballroom or whatver ) big enough to call in major media\
> > > small enough not to set flags off
> > > if you then have the penultimate production and its covered by major
> media
> > > they will have to do business with you veritably
> > > because yours will be the production everyone wants
> > > eg this is what happened visa vi glenn close in the los angeles
> production
> > > of sunset blvd
> > > when patti lupone was all ready signed for nyc
> > > glenn got hot and it didnt matter
> > > they had to pay  patti off etc
> > >
> > > similarly one who gets a hot production of hair covered by major 
> > > media
> in
> > > second city
> > > would be in drivers seat as opposed to frankel et al arguably
> > > very tudor stewart political etc\
> > >
> > > ?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:55 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Hair We Are Again
> > >
> > >
> > > > You are correct Bil. To use songs from Hair in a new context you 
> > > > would
> > > need
> > > > the permission of the authors and the performance rights holders. 
> > > > You
> are
> > > > also correct that one doesn't always need permission to record a 
> > > > song,
> but
> > > > that law does not cover the use of the songs in a running 
> > > > performance
> > > piece,
> > > > but only on a recording.
> > > > Nina
> > > >
> > > > The Hair Archives 
> > > > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Wm-A Gonzalez" <bgonzal@rci.rutgers.edu>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that 
> > > > >this
> > > holds
> > > > >true (in the US) for musical material for which someone (TAMS)
> already
> > > owns
> > > > >the theatrical performance rights.  In fact, I believe that 
> > > > >specific
> > > rights
> > > > >need to be acquired to incorporate any copyrighted material into 
> > > > >a
> new
> > > work
> > > > >which will lead to financial gain.  My understanding is that you 
> > > > >do
> not
> > > > >need permission to record a published song, but you do still need
> 
> > > > >to
> pay
> > > > >the related royalties, and acknowledge existing copyrights.
> > > > >
> > > > >-Bil Gonzalez
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Mb-hair mailing list
> > > > Mb-hair@islandlists.com 
> > > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Visit my websites:
> > www.beverlybremers.com
> > www.voicercise.net
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:18:34 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] the senior citizen idea rado was very much in favor
> of 
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
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> 
> he had come to a similar conclusion himself
> 
> galt is the one who says thats verboten
> 
> there is someway for improvisition as indicated in the acting versions
> 
> eg the recent gate production took great liberties
> 
> as i have heard many of the companies on the road put the nude scene in
> walking in space
> 
> so there are precedents
> but yes the authors have ultimate power
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:25:39 +0800
> From: Vincent Edwards <VinUschi@t-online.de>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center 
> To: "mb-hair@islandemail.com" <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
> Message-ID: <43789E63.DB2D5437@t-online.de>
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> 
> this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy
> hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing
> wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of
> aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love
> you all  vincent
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <015401c5e964$c87a0b10$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> 
> everyone wants to do it
> including jimmy
> 
> galt doesnt want it
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vincent Edwards" <VinUschi@t-online.de>
> To: <mb-hair@islandemail.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:25 AM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] senior center
> 
> 
> > this cracks me up  senior center  old peoples home  or even the crazy 
> > hotel where old tribes from the 60s are now living and still doing 
> > wonderful crazy things growing old disgracefully  the old age of 
> > aquarius i think its a smash so ironically funny  think about it  love
> 
> > you all  vincent
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com 
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:00:06 +0000
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <BAY104-F38F6BB778C413C9A1D406CB25A0@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> 
> Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
> become 
> of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting and 
> possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book and
> score. 
> Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented 
> writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express
> what 
> you're trying to say in a new project.
> 
> We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to 
> recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to have
> the 
> involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
> 
> So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave it 
> alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why there
> is 
> always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new contexts, when
> there 
> is so little interest in this for other musicals? Why do we never see
> such 
> totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, or West Side Story? Why does
> no 
> one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in
> other 
> places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to it's
> times, 
> but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so
> prevalent 
> today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing versions of WSS set
> in 
> the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
> feel 
> that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to 
> understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand that
> I 
> am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering why this
> topic 
> is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely with 
> other pieces.
> Nina
> 
> The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> >
> >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> >
> >everyone wants to do it
> >including jimmy
> >
> >galt doesnt want it
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:01:45 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <001a01c5e977$c4aae000$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> its not turning hair into a new show
> this is how direction and mis en scene evolves
> 
> and the authors would naturally be involved in any production of HAIR
> that i did i am in constant touch with them
> 
> and yes once you set the context
> and its the same script
> yes it is HAIR
> its not the same production
> but yes it would be HAIR
> and Jimmy Rado shares this vision in fact
> that sound that came off the floor in the reunion is HAIR
> MORE HAIR THAN ANY OTHER COMPANY
> 
> and i have more new high end projects than anyone the planet but HAIR
> like a piece of mozart or bizets carmen or something by dostoyevsky is
> very special
> 
> the reason this discussion comes up with HAIR is the notion of ground
> breaking of freshness is very much a part of the zeitgeist of the show;
> so the notion of keeping it fresh and freshness is part of HAIRS
> inherent makeup
> 
> thats why
> 
> and yes i would set west side story now
> and without changing a word make it black and puerto rican
> the jets as in jet black are a black gang
> thats whos living up there now
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> 
> 
> > Yes, but this isn't Hair. Write something new - the idea of what has
> become
> > of the idealists and hippies of the sixties today is an interesting 
> > and possibly commercial one. But make it a new show, with a new book 
> > and
> score.
> > Why take Hair and turn it into a new show? There are so many talented 
> > writers and composers out there. Instead of reinventing Hair, express 
> > what you're trying to say in a new project.
> >
> > We all loved being involved with Hair, and it is natural to want to 
> > recapture it all, but if you're reinventing Hair you would have to 
> > have
> the
> > involvement of the authors, as the London 2005 production did.
> >
> > So, rather than this descending into our bi-monthly "update it/leave 
> > it alone" discussion, I would love to hear people's thoughts on why 
> > there is always so much interest in re-envisioning Hair in new 
> > contexts, when there is so little interest in this for other musicals?
> 
> > Why do we never see such totally changed productions of Hello Dolly, 
> > or West Side Story? Why does
> no
> > one ever want to produce a version of Fiddler or Chorus Line set in 
> > other places or times? West Side Story is another show that is tied to
> 
> > it's
> times,
> > but still very relevant today, with the serious gang violence so 
> > prevalent today. Why aren't we seeing lots of people proposing 
> > versions of WSS set
> in
> > the present day, addressing this? Personally I, as you all know, don't
> feel
> > that things need to be set in contemporary times for the audience to 
> > understand the relevance to our current lives, so please understand 
> > that I am not suggesting that WSS should be updated. Just wondering 
> > why this
> topic
> > is one that comes up so frequently with regard to Hair, but rarely 
> > with other pieces. Nina
> >
> > The Hair Archives http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > >To: <VinUschi@t-online.de>, <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] senior center
> > >Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:45:51 -0500
> > >
> > >yes and the critics cant bash it cause theyre old people
> > >
> > >everyone wants to do it
> > >including jimmy
> > >
> > >galt doesnt want it
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:16:57 GMT
> From: "tiogajoe@juno.com" <tiogajoe@juno.com>
> Subject: Re:  [Mb-hair] A Mouse Told Me
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <20051114.191704.26945.126639@webmail43.lax.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hey, Robert!  A Very Belated Happy Birthday to you!  
> Okay, so it took a while for that mouse to get my attention (been busy
> and all that jazz), but I saw this posting (finally) and wanted to give
> you my best wishes, 'cause I've enjoyed getting to meet you and hang
> with you (even if only briefly) at a couple of our most recent HAIR
> happenings (Bridgefield, Bridgeport [or where ever it was in
> Connecticut] and then the Reunion in NYC).  You're a great contribution
> to the HAIR family, and I feel lucky to have been able to know you as
> more than just a name on the List.  Keep up the good work and add many
> more years to your being here (and thereby being the positive
> contributor you have been to the stewardship of this planet Earth of
> ours).  
> Beads, Love, Freedom, Happiness,
> --Tioga Joe
> ====================================
> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:19:19 -0400
> From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> 
> Robert,
> That today is a great one
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
> Hope your leg is better.
> And see you soon
> Michael
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:12:57 GMT
> From: "tiogajoe@juno.com" <tiogajoe@juno.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Weed and such
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
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> 
>  Just IMHO:
> Smoke in the lungs being unsafe:  
> Probably.  Hard to argue against.  But still, I don't want smoking
> outlawed.  You may catch me smoking Cavendish in a briarwood pipe as I
> stroll to the fishing pier late at night.  In a way, it signals that
> stand.  England's King James hated the smoking of the evil weed tobacco
> back in the early 1600's.  Had he had his way, English-speaking America
> may never have taken root in Jamestown, Virginia, and we may well have
> ended up speaking a different language in America today.  I'm glad the
> smoke merchants succeeded.
> Cannabis smoke stinking:
> Yeah, I've smelled some pretty stinky stuff -- yet even that had some
> adequate results (altering-of-states-of-consciousness-wise), but, man,
> the good stuff?  That smell is good enough to can in an aerosol can of
> air-freshener!  I've almost gotten whip-lash when catching a whiff and
> then searching the environs to figure out the source!  It's a pretty
> smell.  No stink at all.  But, yeah, there's some stinky stuff out there
> (30 years ago when I was a waiter in a restaurant in Billsburg,
> Virginia, the busboy had some stinky pot.  It smelled awful.  But he was
> a happy busboy [hard to find] and he did his part to make sure at least
> one of the waiters he worked for was happy, too!).
> Beach Boys:
> I turned on to the Beach Boys as a young teen when they first started
> making waves in the early-mid '60s, and that was LONG before I allowed
> myself to investigate pot, so I had (and have) no drug connections to
> their music (even if there were some).  Brian Wilson and his Beach Boys
> spoke to me through their music.  That music (and lyrics) continue to be
> for me all that's necessary to get into that groove.
> Regarding New Jersey's "Weed Man," I'm afraid it may be discovered that
> I voted for him.  Hell, I dislike both the major candidates for
> Governorship, so, hell, I figured I might as well make that point as
> strongly as I could (and with some measure of a sense of humor, eh?)
> Regarding legalizing, ... well, you said it.
> And the fifth?  Yeah, I take the fifth (I also bought a fifth, which,
> apparently, is still legal).
> Anyway, all of the above is only alleged to have come from me.  These
> opinions are not necessarily those of the author (am I paranoid, or
> what?).
> Yadda, yadda, yadda, have a good day, and all that jazz,
> Joseph Livingstone de Tioga
> ====================================== 
> Sean Courtney <dauber@banana-and-louie.org> wrote:
>     On 10/15/2005, Robin McNamara wrote:
> 
>     > There are many things that marijuana is good for both physical &
>     > mental. Our government refuses to study it properly & spreads
> garbage
>     > propaganda of how bad it is for you. Carl Sagen, said that
> marijuana
>     > gave him intellectual insight.
> 
>     I don't blame the government, and I'll tell ya why: ours is by far
> not the
>     only government to outlaw it. Very few countries allow it.
> 
>     My overall thoughts:
> 
>     1) Whether it be pot, tobacco, or hickory, putting ANY smoke in your
> lungs
>     ain't safe -- that's why the fire department tells you to get as
> close to
>     the ground as you can, so you don't breathe it in! And that's why
> your 
> lungs
>     force it out.
> 
>     2) The stuff stinks...literally! Either that or the stuff I got a
> whiff of
>     at the McCartney concerts (and the one Brian Wilson show I w ent to
> where
>     someone lit up a blunt -- I'm sorry, but 1) you shouldn't light up
> when
>     you're ten feet away from a recovering drug addict, and 2) of all
> the songs
>     in the Brian Wilson/Beach Boys catalog to turn on to, "Sloop John 
> B" is NOT
>     a good one to do that to!!!!) I've been to was rancid....seriously,
> that
>     stuff smelled like....well, sadly, what my feet smell like right
> now. 
> 
>     3) However, I wouldn't step in the way of legalizing it. In
> fact...here in
>     NJ there's this guy known as "NJ Weed Man" who's been arrested 
> several times
>     for possessing the stuff. He's RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR!!! and promises
> to
>     legalize the ganja here in the state. I'm seriously
>     thinking of voting for the dude -- he's much more qualified than the
> two
>     bozos in the democratic and republican parties who are running. I'm
> not
>     bashing republicans and democrats or anything, but the candidates
> for NJ
>     governor just don't give me a good feeling.
> 
>     4) It really would be in the government's best interest to legalize
> it, 
> what
>     with the taxes they could put on it, medicinal qualities, etc.
> 
>     5) Uhhh...nothing else, really...I just wanted a fifth point. :)
> 
>     --
>     dauber@banana-and-louie.org
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Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: The Bushification of John McCain
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The Bushification of John McCain
http://www.alternet.org/story/28266

By striving to prove his conservative Bush credentials to win the Republican base, McCain risks alienating the very Americans he needs to win a general election.
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Wed Nov 16 08:44:46 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Wed Nov 16 08:54:01 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] How The Far Right Co-Opted PBS
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Wed, 16 Nov 2005
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This was a win-win for the Far Right:

They attempted to co-opt PBS' broadcasting, and now the findings of the
malfeasance of the conservative operative, will be used to try to
further slash Public Television's budget, and can also be used to make
PBS' corporate structure, look weak....    Jim

Broadcast Chief Violated Laws, Inquiry Finds  
By STEPHEN LABATON
The New York Times
Published: November 16, 2005

WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 - Investigators at the Corporation for Public
Broadcasting said on Tuesday that they had uncovered evidence that its
former chairman had repeatedly broken federal law and the organization's
own regulations in a campaign to combat what he saw as liberal bias.

A report concluded that Kenneth Y. Tomlinson, shown here testifying on
funding for public broadcasting in July, repeatedly broke federal law in
a campaign to combat what he saw as liberal bias. 

A report by the corporation's inspector general, sent to Congress on
Tuesday, described a dysfunctional organization that appeared to have
violated the Public Broadcasting Act, which created the corporation and
was written to insulate programming decisions from politics. 
The former chairman, Kenneth Y. Tomlinson, who was ousted from the board
two weeks ago when it was presented with the details of the report in a
closed session, has said he sought to enforce a provision of the
broadcasting act meant to ensure objectivity and balance in programming.

But in the process, the report said, Mr. Tomlinson repeatedly crossed
statutory boundaries that had set up the corporation as a "heat shield"
to protect public radio and television from political interference.

In a statement distributed with the report, Mr. Tomlinson rejected its
conclusions. He said any suggestion that he had violated his duties or
the law was "malicious and irresponsible" and that the inspector general
had opted "for politics over good judgment."

"Unfortunately, the inspector general's preconceived and unjustified
findings will only help to maintain the status quo and other reformers
will be discouraged from seeking change," said Mr. Tomlinson, who has
repeatedly defended his decisions as part of an effort to restore
balance to programming. "Regrettably, as a result, balance and
objectivity will not come soon to elements of public broadcasting." 

The inspector general's report is the first official conclusion that Mr.
Tomlinson appears to have violated both the law and the corporation's
own rules. It is also the first detailed and official inside look at the
dynamics of the corporation as some of its career staff members have
struggled with conservative Republican appointees seeking to change its
direction. 

The report said investigators found evidence that Mr. Tomlinson had
violated federal law by being heavily involved in getting more than $4
million for a program featuring writers of the conservative editorial
page of The Wall Street Journal. 

It said he had imposed a "political test" to recruit a new president of
the corporation. And it said his decision to hire Republican consultants
to defeat legislation violated contracting rules. 

The corporation received $400 million from Congress this year to finance
an array of programs on public television and radio. Its future
financing has come under heavy criticism, particularly from conservative
lawmakers. Its board is selected by the president and confirmed by the
Senate. 
The author of the report, Kenneth A. Konz, was hired by the corporation
in the 1990's to be its inspector general after retiring from a long
career in the inspector general's office at the Environmental Protection
Agency. 

No sanctions or further action against Mr. Tomlinson will follow from
the report's findings, Mr. Konz said. But some broadcasting officials
say they fear that the report may be used to attack the corporation's
budget, already in jeopardy as lawmakers look for money to help pay for
rebuilding the Gulf Coast and starting an inoculation program against
avian flu.
The report said Mr. Tomlinson appeared to have violated federal law by
promoting "The Journal Editorial Report" and said he had "admonished
C.P.B. senior executive staff not to interfere with his deal to bring a
balancing program" to public broadcasting.

The board is prohibited from becoming involved in programming decisions,
but the investigators found that Mr. Tomlinson had pushed hard for the
program, even as some staff officials at the corporation had raised
concerns about its cost.
E-mail messages from around the same time show that he threatened to
withhold money from public broadcasting "in a New York minute" if public
broadcasting did not balance its lineup.
     
The investigators found evidence that "political tests" were a major
criterion used by Mr. Tomlinson in recruiting the corporation's new
president, Patricia Harrison, a former co-chairwoman of the Republican
National Committee and a former senior State Department official. 

According to the report, Ms. Harrison was given the job after being
promoted for it by an unidentified White House official. Investigators
said they had found e-mail correspondence between Mr. Tomlinson and the
White House that while "cryptic" in nature "gives the appearance that
the former chairman was strongly motivated by political considerations
in filling the president/C.E.O. position." 

The corporation's presidency, its senior staff job, is traditionally
reserved for a nonpartisan expert in public broadcasting.

The report said Mr. Tomlinson had defended his decision to hire a
candidate with strong political ties because of the need to build
relationships with Congress for future requests for financing.

Ms. Harrison disputed suggestions that she was motivated by politics.

"Only actions will dispel critics who believe I have a political agenda,
which I do not have," she said in an interview Tuesday. "I want to
define my tenure in as open a way as I can."
She said excellence, creativity and quality were as important in
programming as objectivity and balance. 

The report said politics might have been involved in other personnel
decisions. In one case, it said, a candidate to become the senior vice
president for corporate and public affairs was asked by a board member
about her political contributions in the last election. 

Another official was given a particular job title at the corporation at
the request of the White House, it said

The report said Mr. Tomlinson's decision to hire two Republican
consultants to help the corporation in its lobbying efforts against
public broadcasting legislation last year was "not handled in accordance
with C.P.B.'s contracting procedures." 

The inspector general criticized another contract with a researcher to
monitor "Now" when its host was Bill Moyers because Mr. Tomlinson had
signed it without informing the board and without board authorization. 

The report said that a White House official, Mary C. Andrews, had worked
on a plan by the corporation to create a new office of ombudsmen to
promote balance in programming. Ms. Andrews had been hired by the
corporation at the time but was still on the White House payroll, the
report said. 

It said her efforts "appeared to be advisory in nature and she did not
provide the ombudsmen with guidelines on how to operate or interfere
with their functioning." But it also found that the decision to sign
contracts with two ombudsmen "does not appear to comply with established
C.P.B. procurement processes."

After a board meeting Tuesday morning at which the corporation adopted a
series of resolutions to impose tighter financial controls, Mr.
Tomlinson's successor in the chairmanship, Cheryl Halpern, met with
senior lawmakers in hope of blunting any political fallout. 

But the report poses its own problems for Ms. Halpern, a Republican
fund-raiser, and the rest of the board, which supported Mr. Tomlinson's
agenda.

"Our review found an organizational environment that allowed the former
chairman and other C.P.B. executives to operate without appropriate
checks and balances," the report said. It ascribed the problems in part
to the "culture of C.P.B."

Ms. Halpern headed the board's audit committee under Mr. Tomlinson. She
was Mr. Tomlinson's choice to succeed him after he served as chairman
for two years. He has said that he selected her, in part, because of her
continued commitment to end any programming bias.

The report questioned a severance package for the corporation's previous
president, Kathleen A. Cox, who was forced to resign abruptly in April
after a series of disagreements with Mr. Tomlinson.

According to the report, the package was more than three times her
annual compensation, and Mr. Tomlinson structured its payouts over a
period of years so that the lump sum would not be disclosed on publicly
available tax records.
In a statement attached to the report, Ms. Cox named board members other
than Mr. Tomlinson who she said were involved in some decisions
criticized by the inspector general. Ms. Cox said she was forced to
resign after Mr. Tomlinson told her she was "not political enough" for
the job.

The report came in response to requests by two senior Democratic
lawmakers, Representatives David R. Obey of Wisconsin and John D.
Dingell of Michigan. Their request followed an article in The New York
Times in May that described the contract to monitor "Now," the plan to
hire Ms. Harrison, the role Mr. Tomlinson played in promoting "The
Journal Editorial Report," and Ms. Andrews's role in the creating the
office of ombudsman. 

Mr. Tomlinson remains the head of the Broadcasting Board of Governors,
which supervises all American government broadcasting programs overseas. 

The inspector general of the State Department is examining accusations
at the broadcasting board of misuse of federal money and the use of
phantom or unqualified employees by Mr. Tomlinson.

In a recent letter, Senator Christopher J. Dodd, Democrat of
Connecticut, asked President Bush to consider ordering Mr. Tomlinson to
step down from the board of governors until that investigation was
completed.


? Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company


From drmhaatma at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 15 18:03:20 2005
From: drmhaatma at yahoo.com (Mha Atma Khalsa)
Date: Wed Nov 16 09:39:35 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Aid and Comfort
Message-ID: <E1EcR6W-0003uS-Ek@smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Here is a great article deserving of sharing with
every single American. 

Aid and Comfort
    By William Rivers Pitt
    t r u t h o u t | Perspective
    Monday 14 November 2005
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/111405I.shtml

    The old chestnut has been hauled out in public
again: if you do not
support the war, if you do not support Bush, you are
betraying our troops
and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. It's an oldie
but a goodie. It is
worthwhile, in the face of this resurgent nonsense, to
take a long, hard
look at what "aid and comfort" really is.

    George W. Bush's decision to invade and occupy
Iraq - and it was his
decision, as he made clear when he said it was
"perfectly legitimate to
criticize my decision or the conduct of the war" in
his ham-fisted
Veterans Day speech last week - has done more to
increase the fortunes of
al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden than any war critic ever
could.

    The invasion and occupation of Iraq has created a
rallying point for
extremists all across the Muslim world, and has given
them a marvelous
opportunity to refine their murderous craft by
constructing bombs that
kill American soldiers and Iraqi civilians every
single day. There were no
al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq before this occupation.
Now, there are lots of
them, and they are getting plenty of practice.

    The invasion and occupation of Iraq allowed Osama
"bin Dead and Alive"
Laden to slip the noose set for him in Afghanistan. We
had him cornered up
there in the mountains near the Pakistani border, but
our best troops and
equipment were pulled out and sent to Iraq instead.
Maybe Osama is already
dead - like his friend Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has
been reported killed
approximately four hundred and thirteen times, only to
constantly
resurface as the mastermind of a dozen bombings and
attacks - and maybe
not. The fact that he was never captured, tried and
convicted for his
crimes, the fact that he may still be out there, is a
boon to those who
have flocked to his banner. Aid and comfort indeed.

    The decision to allow the torture of detainees in
Iraq - a decision
    that
came directly from both Vice President Cheney and
Defense Secretary
Rumsfeld, according to former administration outsider
Lawrence Wilkerson -
gave the world the horrific images of Abu Ghraib. When
those photographs
hit the Arab street, they provided inspiration for
thousands of people in
Iraq and elsewhere to give their lives to the idea
that killing American
soldiers is a nifty and necessary thing to do. It was
the best recruitment
drive for al Qaeda that could have ever been
conceived.

    And there are more photographs to come.

    The decision to invade Iraq has made the world
less safe. Look at the
wreckage left behind by the bombing of those hotels in
Jordan last week.
The perpetrators were not hardened al Qaeda veterans
who learned to fight
in the Hindu Kush by killing Russians on behalf of the
Reagan
administration. The perpetrators were all Iraqis. Mr.
Bush's misbegotten
adventure in Iraq has left the nest, and is spreading
out into the wider
world.

   The decision by Bush and his administration to use
wildly questionable
sources in order to scare the American people into
supporting the war has
been a great aid and comfort to those who now kill
American soldiers so
far from home. Take, for example, the use by Bush and
his people of the
information provided by Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi (whose
name, loosely
translated, means "I've been a shaky alibi"). Al-Libi
told his
interrogators that al Qaeda was all over the place in
Iraq before the war.
A multitude of intelligence officials, including the
folks at the Defense
Intelligence Agency, warned that al-Libi was lying
through his teeth. It
turns out, in the end, that he was; he recanted all of
his testimony in
2004. Yet even with these warnings, Bush & Co. used
his words to justify
their war.

    Now here's a good question: why would al-Libi lie
about an al Qaeda
presence in Iraq? Could it be that he did so in order
to provide Bush with
justification for an attack? Could it be that al-Libi
and his masters
wanted Bush to invade Iraq, so bin Laden could get his
international
rallying cry while simultaneously disposing of Saddam
Hussein, whom bin
Laden hated and despised?

    In other words, did Bush do exactly, precisely
what Osama bin Laden
wanted him to?

 The decision by Bush to chuck up this invasion and
occupation has made
the United States wildly vulnerable. The US military
is in horrible shape;
recruitment is down to historic lows, veterans whose
wisdom and expertise
are necessary for the care and maintenance of the line
are refusing to
re-enlist, and the Treasury has been utterly looted.
There are enemies of
this country out there, and there are threats of dire
consequence. The
damage done to our fighting men and women, to the
military institutions
that protect us, has left us dangerously unable to
respond should one of
those enemies choose to make a move.

    Finally, Bush's close and cuddly friendship with
the House of Saud has
been an incredible aid and comfort to terrorists
throughout the world.
Saudi Arabia, with its vast revenues and its Wahabbist
extremism, is the
birthing bed of international terrorism. Yet nary a
word is whispered
about this, because the House of Saud and the House of
Bush have been
umbilically connected for decades. Our worst enemies,
our deadliest foes,
the enablers of those who would kill and maim among
our soldiers and
civilians, have an open invitation to dinner at the
White House every time
they decide to go to Washington.

    But that's just business, right?

    George Washington once said, "The willingness with
which our young
people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how
justified, shall be
directly proportional as to how they perceive the
veterans of earlier wars
were Treated and Appreciated by their nation."
Defenders of the Bush
administration can argue that war critics are harming
our troops until
their faces turn blue. The real harm being done to our
troops, the real
aid and comfort being provided to the enemy, is not
coming from the
Democratic party or from the activist street. It is
coming from the very
men and women who hide behind the troops, who use such
rhetoric to deflect
the consequences of their folly.

   Don't let it stand.

William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and
internationally bestselling
author of two books: War on Iraq: What Team Bush
Doesn't Want You to Know and The Greatest Sedition Is
Silence

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From michael at intrafi.com  Wed Nov 16 12:12:38 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Wed Nov 16 12:21:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Che's Second Coming?
Message-ID: <20051116201238.08BC7249C60@lax-gw08.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

MAGAZINE | November 20, 2005
Che's Second Coming?
By DAVID RIEFF
The Indian leader of a coca-growers' movement wants to make Bolivia the next domino in Latin America's revolt against globalization, neoliberalism and the Bush administration.
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Wed Nov 16 12:22:43 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Wed Nov 16 12:31:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Interesting... (HAIR)
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Wed, 16 Nov 2005
	12:00:16 -0800
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I think one of the reseaons HAIR has persevered, is that--despite the
lyric!--it's NOT about people dropping out, but trying to come to terms
with both their society and how to confront it, and how to elicit
effect... 

Jim Burns 

From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Wed Nov 16 23:12:10 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Wed Nov 16 23:21:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Tacoma Leonard Peltier March
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV23A396040CCB12DDDAAE83AB5F0@phx.gbl>

Please post widely

From: The Tacoma Leonard Peltier Support Group

IN THE SPIRIT OF UNIFIED SOLIDARITY
LEONARD PELTIER MARCH AND RALLY STATEMENT

13th ANNUAL NORTHWEST REGIONAL INTERNATIONAL DAY OF SOLIDARITY WITH
LEONARD PELTIER, MARCH AND RALLY FOR
JUSTICE SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2006
TACOMA, WA  12:00 NOON: MARCH FOR
JUSTICE. 

Portland Ave. Park (on Portland Ave.
between E. 24th and E. Fairbanks Ave. Take
Portland Ave. exit off I-5 and head east)

1:00 PM: RALLY FOR JUSTICE. U.S. Federal
Court House, 1717 Pacific Ave.

"As individual fingers we can easily be
broken, but all together we make a mighty
fist".

Sitting Bull
~<>~<>~<>~<>~<>~<>~<>~<>~<>~
The Oglala People are unconquered -- We
will not, and Leonard Peltier will not give
up the fight for justice.

In todays world it is more important than 
ever to stand up to political persecution.
Over the past three years the City of 
Tacoma has tried to stop our march and
has tried to intimidate us with a massive
show of police force. It was the support of
many good people and a legal team that
upheld our right to march in Tacoma.

Our annual focus for 13 years has been to
hold a peaceful march in solidarity with
Leonard Peltier's struggle. We will not stop
marching, we will not be intimidated and
we maintain the right to come out in public
in support of Leonard Peltier without
persecution.

We call on you as sisters and brothers to
join us at our Annual Regional Tacoma
March and Rally in Solidarity with Leonard
Peltier, as we send the message: We will
not give up! We will not surrender! We will
continue to stand for justice for Leonard
Peltier and for justice for all that he 
represents for as long as it takes to set him
free! 

Our strength is building and time is on our
side, the sweep of justice is moving 
throughout the world and we are a part of
that great wave of truth and justice. Please
join with us on Feb.4, 2006 for a 
tremendous show of solidarity, a march and
rally in Unified Solidarity for Justice for
Leonard Peltier. All of us working together
will free Leonard Peltier.

The Tacoma Leonard Peltier Support needs
your help. We need donations to help pay 
for the publicity for the march and rally. 
Please send donations to the address
below (make checks out to the Tacoma
Leonard Peltier Support Group. We need
help getting fliers and posters out and
setting up video showings. Please contact
us if you can help.

Thank you.

In The Spirit of Crazy Horse,

Steve Hapy, Jr.
Arthur J. Miller
Tacoma Leonard Peltier Support Group
P.O. Box 5464
Tacoma, WA 98415-00464

[1]Tacoma-lpsg@ojibwe.us or 
[2]bayou@blarg.net

AFTER RALLY POT LUCK MEAL AND GET
TOGETHER:  Around 4:00 pm. At the
First United Methodist Church 
423 Martin Luther King Jr Way. 

>From the rally go south up the hill to
Martin Luther King Jr Way and turn right.
The church is right next to a large hospital.

The meal and gathering is hosted in 
support of Leonard by the local Tacoma
group People for Peace, Justice and 
Healing.

Those who wish to sign up on the 
NWPeltierSupport e-mail list can do
so by sending an e-mail to: 
[3]nwpeltiersupportsubscribe@lists.riseup.net


Official Website: 
[4]www.leonardpeltier.org

Online Store: 
[5]http://www.cafepress.com/leonardpeltier




From michael at intrafi.com  Thu Nov 17 10:03:00 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Thu Nov 17 10:12:24 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Creating a Right-Wing Nation, State by State
Message-ID: <20051117180300.C915DB80A5@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



-------------------------------------
Creating a Right-Wing Nation, State by State
http://www.alternet.org/story/28259

A couple of staffers for People for the American Way went undercover to a conference of the ultra-conservative American Legislative Exchange Council. Here's what they discovered.
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From CauseNet at commoncause.org  Thu Nov 17 10:29:40 2005
From: CauseNet at commoncause.org (Lauren Coletta, Common Cause)
Date: Thu Nov 17 10:58:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "Why Would I Resign?"
Message-ID: <E1EcopE-0005kb-4X@smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Dear Common Cause Activist,

On Tuesday, we received the long awaited report from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) Inspector General who investigated the activities of former CPB Chairman Kenneth Tomlinson (http://www.cpb.org/oig/).  As we expected, the report describes a rudderless agency in disarray under Tomlinson's leadership, and strongly criticizes his efforts to politicize public broadcasting programming and his partisan hiring practices, among other issues.

This is not news to Common Cause members.  More than 100,000 of you have taken action over the last several months to combat Tomlinson's reckless management of an important American institution, and we thank you.  The 67-page report raises a number of important issues that will need to be addressed in the weeks to come.

But right now, the evidence shows that a "partisan litmus test" was used in the hiring of the current CPB President Patricia Harrison, a former co-chair of the Republican National Committee.  Because of that evidence, we are calling for her immediate resignation.  Please sign our petition demanding her resignation:

http://www.commoncause.org/StepDownHarrison

Tomlinson did not work alone in his efforts to efforts to stack the CPB senior management with partisan operatives.  The report found that senior officials at the White House played a role:

"...[W]e identified e-mails between the former Chairman and staff in the Executive Office of the President that, while cryptic in nature, their timing and subject matter gives the appearance that the former Chairman was strongly motivated by political considerations in filling the President/CEO position."

According to news reports, Tomlinson also consulted Karl Rove, a long time associate, about hiring decisions, even though the former chairman told the Los Angeles Times in May that he had denied having any contact with White House officials (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/11/16/former_public_broadcasting_chief_violated_ethics_investigators_allege/).

When Patricia Harrison heard that Common Cause was calling for her resignation, she asked, "Why would I resign?"(http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-11-15T202021Z_01_SCH557625_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEDIA-TOMLINSON.xml&archived=False)  If the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is to renew itself and regain public confidence, Harrison needs to step down, and the CPB board must address the many deficiencies identified by the Inspector General report.

Please join us in asking Patricia Harrison to step down, and forward this email to friends and family and ask them to do the same: http://www.commoncause.org/StepDownHarrison.  We will deliver the petition at the next CPB board meeting on January 31 and provide the CPB and media outlets with updates on our progress in collecting signatures.

Please download the petition page and bring it with you to local events in your community.  You can always mail them to us at Common Cause, 1250 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 600, Washington, DC, 20036.  Stay on the lookout for more information as we learn more about the implications of the Inspector General's report.

Thank you for all you do for Common Cause.

Sincerely,

Lauren Coletta, Senior Director of Media Programs, and the rest of the Common Cause Media and Democracy Team

P.S. You can learn more about our efforts in a recent Washington Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501740.html) and President Chellie Pingree's NPR interview (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5014688) on Morning Edition.


Give to Common Cause: http://www.commoncause.org/give

Discuss this message: http://www.commonblog.org/




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From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Thu Nov 17 13:16:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: hi nina]
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Thu Nov 17 20:27:56 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Thu Nov 17 20:37:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A Great, Acting Story...
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Thu, 17 Nov 2005
	12:00:12 -0800
Message-ID: <9528-437D584C-176@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net>


Thinking about the opening of WOMEN IN WHITE, tonight, I'm reminded of a
great story, something I guess I learned, about a year-and-a-half
ago.... 

I was doing some consulting with the York, strictly voluntary stuff, for
some marketing and promotional ideas, which are starting to come to
fruition, now. (Those Yorksters were kind enough to mention me in a
couple of their PLAYBILLS, which was kind of fun.) 

Scott Delacruz, who was then helping to run things there, and he's a
terrific dynamo, had told me about a friend of his, from just a couple
of years before, in college, Jill Paice... 

Now, many of Scott's Indiana college crowd seem to be a talented bunch.
A while back, a bunch of them, now here in New York, formed Toy Box
Theatre, and they've done some nice, and challenging, stuff. 

And Jill: 

Just out of college, she was cast as the young lead, in the sit-down,
Las Vegas production of MAMA MIA. 

Pretty good for your first gig, right? 

After about a year, starring in the play, she decided she wanted to give
New York a go. 
Somehow, Andrew Lloyed Webber had heard about this gal... And with just
about all of London, and really the world, to choose from, he arranged,
to audition her, for the West End Production, of WOMAN IN WHITE. 

And she got the gig. 

I think all this happened, right after Scott introduced me to Paice at
some opening night party, shortly after she had left Las Vegas. And when
we hung out, she was lovely, and funny, and bright. 

So, as she's having her first Broadway opening night-- 

I just think it's worth reflecting that fairy tales still do happen. 

And for all actors-- 

Young, or, ahem, perhaps a little older-- 

That next, or first, remarkable opportunity, could be a phone call away. 

And you'll just never know, unless you keep trying. 

Because you'll never know, just who's paying attention...! 


Jim Burns 

From IHHS at aol.com  Thu Nov 17 16:19:59 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 18 09:34:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] finally a U.S. study on water and drug contamination
Message-ID: <E1Ed9yR-00077F-5n@smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Take a look at these incredible findings from a nationwide U.S. Geological 
Survey (USGS) report of water samples tested in 30 states for 95 different 
prescription and nonprescription drugs:


75 percent of the water tested contained?two or more drugs. 
54 percent of samples had more than?five drugs. 
34 percent of samples had more than 10 drugs. 
13 percent of samples had more than 20 drugs.What types of drugs were found? 
Try painkillers, tranquilizers, anti-depressants, antibiotics, birth control 
pills and chemotherapy agents, to name a few ...

How Drugs Get Into Your Water Supply

Here are the two primary contributors to drugs in the water supply:


Forty?percent of all antibiotic drugs are fed to livestock. These animals 
generate significant amounts of manure, containing traces of these drugs that's 
sold and used as fertilizer on lawns, gardens and farms. When it rains, the 
drugs in the manure are washed into rivers, streams, and underground water 
supplies.

Drugs are flushed down drains and toilets by:
People cleaning out their medicine cabinets. 
Hospitals and drug companies disposing of their old drugs. 
People taking drugs and naturally excreting them into human waste.The drugs 
are carried by sewage systems to wastewater treatment plants that unfortunately 
do not remove pharmaceutical contaminants from the water. So these drugs are 
released into the environment and back into the water cycle.

Researchers claim that the amount of pharmaceuticals and personal care 
products released into the environment each year is the same as the amount of 
pesticides released into the environment each year. So you are talking about 888 
million pounds of drugs released into the environment each year, or about?three 
pounds per year for each U.S. man, woman and child.

Environmental, Health Risks

There is very limited information as to how drugs in our water supplies 
affect humans, fish and plant life. But, recently, researchers have found that:


Pharmaceutical drugs in water trigger hormone imbalances in fish causing the 
feminization of the male fish. 
Antidepressants found in water cause premature spawning in shellfish. 
Drugs that treat heart ailments prevent fish from repairing normal damage to 
their fins. 
Antibiotics in water are contributing to the rise of bacteria that is 
resistant to conventional antibiotic treatment.Some researchers are very worried 
about the long-term impact of drugs in the water supply because:


Some people are now exposed to traces of multiple drugs at one time, and that 
is in addition to other harmful metals and chemicals in their water. 
Many drugs in the water supply are known to have dangerous side effects (when 
taken in normal prescription doses). 
Drugs that were only intended for external application will now be ingested 
and vice versa. 
Some individuals are allergic to drugs found in the water supply. 
People are exposed to combinations of drugs that should never be combined.  

so what to do? consider..
      http://johnellis.com/fs_main.htm
cheapest most efficient way to protect youself, in the long run
his process destroys all the meds in the water
or try something else but be aware

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From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 18 09:47:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] help for finding a 'real' person
Message-ID: <E1EdAAx-0007lz-MJ@smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

 
 
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 Service_ (http://www.dell.com/)  800-624-9897 option 1, xt 7266966, option 
1, option 4, option 4  _Earthlink_ (http://www.earthlink.net/)  888-earthlink 1 
find a dialin number; 2 billing; 3 sales; 4 support  _Epson_ 
(http://www.support.epson.com/)  800-922-8911 yes  _Gateway_ (http://www.gateway.com/)  
800-846-2301 00#  _HP_ (http://www.hp.com/)  800-474-6836 "Say ""agent""."  _HP_ 
(http://www.hp.com/)  888-560-8324 00  _IBM_ (http://www.ibm.com/)  800-IBM-4YOU 
You go into a hold queue immediately  _Microsoft_ (http://www.microsoft.com/)  
800-936-5700 Always 0. This is true for just about any MS number.  
_QuickBooks_ (http://www.quickbooks.com/)  888-729-1996 1 purchase; 2 billing; 3 
registration; 4 tech support or 0 to  human  _Symantec_ (http://www.symantec.com/)  
800-441-7234 00  telco phone steps to find a human  _AT&T_ 
(http://www.att.com/)  800-222-0300 ..  _AT&T Wireless_ (http://www.attwireless.com/)  
800-888-7600 No easy escape  _BellSouth_ (http://www.bellsouth.com/)  877-678-2355 *0  
_Cellular One_ (http://www.cellularone.com/)  888-910-9191 "4, say ""agent"", 
then #"  _Cingular_ (http://www.cingular.com/)  800-331-0500 For faster service, 
the option that you are looking to close your  account, You get the same ppl 
but an immediate answer  _Cricket_ (http://www.mycricket.com/)  800-274-2538 
313  _Nextel_ (http://www.nextel.com/)  800-639-6111 0 five times  _SBC_ 
(http://www.sbc.com/)  800-585-7928 Again, an (intelligent, this time) IVR wants 
YOUR phone number  first.  _Sprint PCS_ (http://www.sprintpcs.com/)  888-788-5001 
"00, then say ""agent"""  _T-Mobile_ (http://www.tmobile.com/)  800-TMOBILE 
"Say ""representative"" at any time."  _Verizon DSL_ (http://dsl.verizon.net/)  
800 567 6789 "Say ""I don't know it"" then ""technician"""  _Verizon 
Wireless_ (http://www.verizonwireless.com/)  800-922-0204 #00 or enter phone # then 0 
then 4  travel phone steps to find a human  _American  Airlines_ 
(http://www.aa.com/)  800-433-7300 "00, then say ""agent"""  _Amtrak_ 
(http://www.amtrak.com/)  800-872-7245 "0 or say ""agent"""  _Continental_ 
(http://www.continental.com/)  800-523-3273 "Three Delta 800-221-1212 0 then say ""operator"""  
_Delta_ (http://www.delta.com/)  800-221-1212 "say ""agent"" four times - every time 
it asks for a response from  you"  _jetBlue_ (http://www.jetblue.com/)  800 
JET-BLUE 1 flight status; 2 reservations; 3 vacation packages  _Kayak.com_ 
(http://www.kayak.com/)  203 899-3120 0  _Northwest_ (http://www.northwest.com/)  
800-225-2525 Star, 0, after initial greeting  _Southwest_ 
(http://www.southwest.com/)  800-435-9792 Calls answered by operator; during busy times you might 
have to  hold  _United_ (http://www.united.com/)  800-864-8331 Do nothing, 
wait for human.  _US  Airways_ (http://www.usairways.com/)  800-428-4322 4, wait, 
1  _Walt Disney World_ (http://www.disneyworld.com/)  407-824-4521 Direct 
line to Magic Kingdom Guest Relations  tv/satellite phone steps to find a human  
_Comcast_ (http://www.comcast.com/)  800-266-2278 Customer service, but an IVR 
wants your number first.  _Direct  TV_ (http://www.directv.com/)  
800-347-3288 0 repeatedly  _Dish  Network_ (http://dishnetwork.com/)  800-333-3474 0 
during menu  _Sirius_ (http://www.sirius.com/)  (888) 537-SIRIUS 0  _TiVo_ 
(http://www.tivo.com/)  877-367-8486 "Say ""Live Agent"""  _Xm  Radio_ 
(http://www.xmradio.com/)  800-998-7900 Direct to human! 
111 companies listed as  of Wed 16-Nov-2005 8:10 PM. For more info, _click 
here_ (http://www.paulenglish.com/ivr/info.html) . 
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(http://www.paulenglish.com/about.html)   ::updated Wed 16-Nov-2005 8:10  PM:: _search_ 
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Nov 19 13:31:40 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Nov 19 13:40:52 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] FW: Garrison Keillor on the drug war
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------ Forwarded Message
From: Mha Atma Khalsa <drmhaatma@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:10:52 -0800 (PST)
To: Michale Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Subject: Garrison Keillor on the drug war

 
  A Foul Tragedy
  Democrats fled in the face of danger
  
  By Garrison Keillor
  November 2, 2005
  http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2375/
  
  We Democrats are at our worst when we try to emulate
  Republicans as we did in signing onto the "war" on drugs
  that has ruined so many young lives.
  
  The cruelty of the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 is
  stark indeed, as are the sentencing guidelines that
  impose mandatory minimum sentences for minor drug
  possession-guidelines in the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act
  that sailed through Congress without benefit of public
  hearings, drafted before an election by Democrats afraid
  to be labeled "soft on drugs." As a result, a marijuana
  grower can land in prison for life without parole while
  a murderer might be in for eight years. No rational
  person can defend this; it is a Dostoevskian nightmare
  and it exists only because politicians fled in the face
  of danger. That includes Bill Clinton, under whose
  administration the prosecution of Americans for
  marijuana went up hugely, so that now there are more
  folks in prison for marijuana than for violent crimes.
  More than for manslaughter or rape. This only makes
  sense in the fantasy world of Washington, where
  perception counts for more than reality. To an old
  Democrat, who takes a ground view of politics-What is
  the actual effect of this action on the lives of real
  people?-it is a foul tragedy that makes you feel guilty
  about enjoying your freedom.
  
  If suddenly on a Friday night the red lights flash and
  the cops yank your teenage son and his little envelope
  of marijuana into the legal meatgrinder and some bullet-
  headed prosecutor decides to flex his muscle and charge
  your teenager-because he had a .22 rifle in his upstairs
  bedroom closet-with a felony involving the use of a
  firearm, which under our brutal sentencing code means he
  can be put on ice for 20 years, and the prosecutor goes
  at him hammer and tong and convinces a passive jury and
  your boy's life is sacrificed so this creep can run for
  Congress next year-this is not your cross alone to bear.
  If the state cuts off your right hand with a meat
  cleaver on my account and I don't object, then it is my
  cleaver and my fingerprints on it.
  
  I don't dare visit Sandstone Federal Prison here in
  Minnesota for fear of what I'd see there: People who
  chose marijuana, a more benign drug than alcohol, and
  got caught in the religious war that we Democrats in a
  weak moment signed onto. God help us if we form alliance
  with such bullies as would destroy a kid's life for
  raising cannabis plants.
  
  Garrison Keillor is the host and writer of A Prairie
  Home Companion, now in its 26th year on the air.
  
  
  

        
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Nov 19 14:16:29 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Nov 19 14:57:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] REALLY IMPORTANT SUBJECT
Message-ID: <BFA4E43D.25E36%michael@michaelbutler.com>

AlterNet
A Media Monster Is Eating the Dems
By Flavia Monteiro Colgan, AlterNet
Posted on November 19, 2005, Printed on November 19, 2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/28478/

As Harry Truman observed, "You can never get all the facts from just one
newspaper, and unless you have all the facts, you cannot make proper
judgments about what is going on."

If Give-'em-Hell Harry was around today, he would probably blow a gasket
when he realized that not only do most Americans rely on a single news
source, but whatever source they depend on is most likely slowly congealing
into one mega-corporation. Maybe even more upsetting would be the way
Democrats have responded.

Recent momentous news about the continuing elimination of variety in our
news sources has gotten scant coverage.

First, it was announced that Village Voice Media intended to merge with the
New Times papers. The Voice was, for years, a dependable independent news
source available not only in New York, but in major cities everywhere, while
its sister papers independently covered local news in four other areas.

New Times covered many of the gaps that the Voice didn't, in reporting and
geographic coverage. The media conglomerate, if approved by the Justice
Department, will consist of papers in 17 of the top markets, and 25 percent
of alternative weeklies.

And, just days ago, it was reported that Knight Ridder, the publisher of 32
newspapers, including the Daily News and the Inquirer, will likely go up for
sale, and the vultures are circling. Gannett, a likely suitor, already owns
99 daily papers.

This is a trend not just in print, but in broadcast and even the Internet.
Today, 90 percent of the top 50 cable stations are owned by the same
conglomerates that own the top networks, where more than 80 percent of
prime-time viewing is dominated by these same five media giants. They also
own the top 20 Internet news sites! And it's only going to get worse.

Media consolidation eats away at the fabric of democracy, which, as Josh
Silver, executive director of Free Press, a nonpartisan media reform group,
points out, "demands an informed citizenry with access to a variety of
voices and viewpoints."

To compete and avoid takeovers, news outlets are cutting budgets, which
means fewer reporters to cover more stories. When Knight Ridder bows to
pressure from its largest shareholder after posting $326 million in net
income last year, no one is safe.

Democrats, traditionally hostile to large corporations, have been fairly
good at taking on the issue of media consolidation, particularly when they
aren't in power. Al Gore spoke out on it in his 2000 campaign, and Democrats
like Sen. Dorgan and Rep. Dingle have largely led the campaign to diversify
ownership (joined by some unlikely allies like Trent Lott).

The grassroots in the liberal blogosphere have made media consolidation a
pet issue. Yet it isn't their adverse feelings toward corporations that's
fueling their campaign against consolidation. Rather, many liberals feel,
consolidation is a conspiracy that slants the news to the right.

One example: On a recent edition of CBS' "Face the Nation," the politicians
brought in to discuss the indictment of GOP House leader Tom DeLay were all
Republicans. (If you are interested in other cases, visit the Web sites for
Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting or Media Matters.)

But what Democrats have failed to grasp is that there is no conspiracy to
shut them out, it's just that they aren't very good at playing under the
current rules.

When TV news became more entertainment than journalism, and newspaper
reporters needed more pithy quotes, Democrats failed to adapt.

CNN President Jonathan Klein explained that Democrats have a hard time
getting booked because they don't get "angry" enough to excite the viewers.
He told Charlie Rose that liberals "don't get too worked up about anything.
And they're pretty morally relativistic. And so, you know, they allow for a
lot of that stuff."

Is that fair? No. But, unless the rules change, that's the reality
progressives are facing. They can't change the rules unless they gain power,
and they won't gain power until they work their way into the media.

Instead of huffing and puffing about how unfair it was that the media didn't
take the time to learn the nuances of John Kerry's convoluted thinking -
like "voting for the $87 billion before I voted against it" - or that
disingenuous conservatives like Ann Coulter get too much air, Democrats need
to wise up.

It sounds stupid and superficial, but Democrats need to start talking in
pithy sound bites instead of wonk-speak, show some emotion, connect with the
audience on a visceral level and, for goodness sake, brush their hair and
get rid of all tweed and clothes that don't fit. There's a reason you don't
see your English lit prof on with Tucker Carlson.

In the 1950s, both parties were struggling to figure out the new medium of
TV, and I'm sure a lot of curmudgeons were griping about how it was dumbing
down the news. But a young candidate named John Kennedy figured out how to
play by the new rules to win, then succeeded in forcing more sophisticated
debates once in power.

We are at a point of similar change in the media, with consolidation ruining
the national debate. The question now is will the Democrats be able to find
a few new John Kennedys?

Flavia Colgan is a frequent commentator on MSNBC and CNBC. This essay
originally appeared in the Philadelphia Daily News.
? 2005 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/28478/


From IHHS at aol.com  Sun Nov 20 08:35:25 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 20 11:33:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] interesting overview of the history leading to todays
	'crisis'
Message-ID: <E1EdteS-0006wW-Iw@smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

 
Bird Flu  or Cash Cow? - The Pandemic Some Want to Have 

WHO?s Behind  Designer Germs? 
by Eve Hillary ~ ? 2005   

Released November  15, 2005 ~ Sydney  Australia 


I?d finally lost my taste for TV. Its gaudy ads. Its  manufactured news, mind 
numbing sitcoms and titty-tainment.  I?d successfully avoided TV for the  
entire year, until one night my finger strayed onto the button and flicked  
around the channels. Graphic footage of dead birds and masked ?health? workers  
spraying people with chemicals triggered a bad case of deja` vu.   
I recalled the time I?d flown  to South  America to give a presentation at an 
 international Human Rights conference.  A few months previously, on March 
4th  2003 the first person had been  diagnosed with SARS, a brand new disease.  
It was Professor Liu Jianlun, a microbiologist working in a laboratory  
involved in secret, government-sponsored work in China's Guangdong province. (1)  
Incredibly, he had also been ?researching? the H5N1 virus, now known as  the ?
Bird Flu?.   This was closely followed by two other  deaths; a Singaporean 
researcher working in a laboratory of the Singapore  Environmental Health 
Institute and a post doctoral student working on West  Nile virus. Singaporean Health  
Minister Mr. Balaji Sadasivan, stated that the researcher's exposure to the 
SARS  virus "is most likely linked to that laboratory ... where the SARS virus 
is  [also] cultured," (2)  It made me  wonder just how many bio-hazard labs 
were in operation and what other new germs  they were engineering.  
I?d barely made my flight.  My husband and I had been very busy in our 
Integrative (wholistic) medical  clinic which offered patients a variety of orthodox 
as well as complementary and  reliable alternative medical treatments. People 
traveled long distances to get  treatment for cancer and other serious 
diseases. For most it was the first time  they had been able to make lifestyle 
changes and receive physical, emotional and  spiritual healing. They literally got 
a new lease of life. They felt better and  looked better.   
Lately, since the media had  whipped up fear of a world wide epidemic, dozens 
of patients visited the clinic  because they were worried about SARS. The 
health department had issued a SARS  bulletin to all doctors, which listed only 3 
criteria for making the diagnosis  of SARS; cough, fever and a recent trip 
overseas. That could include almost  anyone, and I immediately became 
suspicious. It troubled me that authorities did  not list a specific disease profile for 
a brand new illness that seemed to one  minute reside exclusively inside 
biohazard laboratories and the next minute  allegedly spread into human 
populations. I?d also noticed drug company shares  rise from the sale of drugs for 
respiratory illness.  In our practice we found very few drugs  were in fact 
necessary for healing and disease prevention. Our patients who had  taken regular 
doses of vitamins, minerals, omega oils, antioxidants and other  natural 
supplements had rarely come down with colds, flu, and other  infections.  I hadn?t had 
a cold or  flu for over ten years since I had started taking regular 
supplements. After  much illness and many attempts at personal healing, I finally 
realised the fact  that the only thing that would keep me healthy was a functional 
immune system.   
The day I boarded the  aircraft two passengers were plucked from Sydney 
airport and quarantined in a Sydney Hospital.  Media  reports showed masked Asian 
airport personnel prowling around terminals with  fever detector gadgets, 
hauling hot and bothered travelers off into quarantine  areas. Having finally made 
it on board I had a chance to think again about the  emergence of diseases for 
profit, an issue which I had just published in my  second book ?Health 
Betrayal?.   I thought about AIDS - a previously  unheard of disease entity which 
emerged in the early 1980?s. A few years earlier  Merck pharmaceutical company 
had developed an experimental hepatitis vaccine  which was given to gay men and 
Africans. By 1980 the AIDS epidemic started in  those populations which had 
received the experimental vaccine. (3)  Since then the WHO (World Health  
Organization) with its close ties to pharmaceutical companies, has strictly  
mandated billions of doses of various types of vaccines to Africans and other  third 
world residents where AIDS has spread like wild fire. Governments have  
vaccinated unwilling populations at gunpoint. One African activist, Kihura Nkuba 
writes; ?The enthusiasm of government to give  vaccines to a people that it 
normally gives nothing [to] was seen as very  suspicious. The forcing of them to 
take a vaccine against a disease they know to  be harmless and which they know 
how to cure in its harmful state was seen as  government hell bent on killing 
its own population for the benefit of ? white  world. All village people know 
that once you have recovered from measles you  will never catch it again, but 
here they were telling people to vaccinate even  those who have recovered from 
measles.  In other villages police armed to the teeth moved from house to 
house  searching for children to immunize.  In 2002 Nkuba writes after a 
vaccination  campaign; ??there was one mother who had four children, and she hid  one 
and took three other children for vaccination, and three children died and  
that one survived.? 
It is noteworthy  that of over 45 million people afflicted with HIV/AIDS 
worldwide, 39 million of  them are in third world countries.  In 2003 the average 
AIDS patient, who  could afford it, paid US $15,000 per year for AIDS drugs 
which have not been  shown to be effective in the treatment of the disease. (4)  
 
In late 2001 someone mailed anthrax bacillus to several  key individuals and 
news organizations in the US. Two people subsequently died of anthrax.  The 
strain was identified as originating  from Fort Detrick - a military bio-weapons 
facility.  The anthrax had been weaponised, its  potency increased for use in 
biological warfare. There are few facilities known  in the world to have that 
capacity. They include US military laboratories and a  government contractor. 
(5)  While  the mainstream media whipped up anti Muslim sentiment, drug 
company cash  registers started ringing.  Almost  immediately, sales for Cipro, an 
antibiotic made by Bayer hit the roof as 30,000  Americans started taking the 
drug, just in case. Terrified Americans thought  nothing of paying US $700 for 
a two month supply of Cipro despite its  potentially serious side effects. 
Other generic versions of the drug were  available but not widely publicized.  
The anthrax scare resulted in lucrative  new drug company contracts to 
manufacture both anthrax and smallpox vaccinations  for the military and general 
population. It also gave rise to the Model State  Emergency Health Powers Act, 
giving the government wide powers to quarantine,  drug and inject vaccinations 
into persons at gunpoint in the event of a ?public  health emergency? being 
declared.   Many US states passed this Bill after September 11, which  included an 
exemption to drug companies and vaccine makers for any vaccine  deaths or 
injuries that would occur.  (16)  Public advocacy groups have already  started 
work on having the Bill repealed, on the grounds that it is  unconstitutional.  
On the long flight I had a chance to think about the West  Nile virus (WNV) 
which first  broke out in a poor, predominately black section of New York  City 
in August 1999,  when it had never been known to exist in the US.  The virus  
had only ever been known in East  Africa where it resulted in a  mild disease 
that did not affect other animal and bird populations to any  significant 
degree.  However, the  new NY strain of the WNV is able to jump the species 
barrier. Since the year  2000 over 10,000 wild birds have died, countless horses, 
primates and the human  death toll exceeds 146 Americans. Only the most 
vulnerable people die however.  As many as 200,000 people are  infected and are 
clinically well, posing a good argument for keeping the immune  system functioning 
well.   The  new strain has spread over most eastern US states.  While health 
officials claim the WNV  virus jumped into the U.S. from Africa,  the new 
virulent NY strain had been cultured and engineered in Biohazard  facilities for 
years and sold to labs around the world.   
Meanwhile, pharmaceutical companies including OraVax  have made millions in 
WNV vaccine research and products. Thomas Monath, Vice  President of Research 
and Medical Affairs at OraVax, is one of the world's  leading arbovirologists.  
He became  an advisor to NY Mayor Giuliani when the WNV problem first emerged 
in the city.  Monath had previously developed  genetically engineered 
vaccines against WNV type organisms in his capacity as  the Chief of the Virology 
Division, U.S. Army at Fort  Detrick, Maryland.   Since the 1950s the U.S. 
military began developing bio-warfare weapons at Fort Detrick by cooking up germs 
from exotic animal diseases  intended to cripple the Soviet or other enemy 
economies by killing horses,  cattle, birds and swine with crippling new epidemics. 
By the 1970s new advances in genetic  engineering allowed the creation of new 
designer viruses that jump species  barriers and even cause cancer.  Since 
then many analysts have claimed  these germs have been used for population 
control as well as commercial purposes  with the assistance of high level US 
government agencies.  
In fact plagues of animal diseases had badly affected  the UK which had 
slaughtered almost 4 million animals after an  outbreak of foot and mouth disease 
(FMD). Wikipedia defines the disease as a  highly contagious but Non Fatal 
viral disease, meaning it is similar to the common cold in humans. If left  to 
their own devices animals recover from the disease with permanent immunity to  
it.  However laboratories licensed  to manipulate or engineer the FMD virus can 
create forms that differ from the  wild virus strain. The UK animals were 
infected with type O pan Asia strain, which is not normally found in the UK. Foot 
and mouth virus ?research? was carried out by  Merial Animal Health.  This  
facility, owned by Merck and Aventis, is also a vaccine production laboratory  
located near Pirbright, Surrey,  not far from Britain?s own government 
Institute for Animal Health. According  to the Sunday Express, a routine audit into 
the government?s bio-warfare  research laboratory Porton Down revealed that a 
container of foot and mouth  virus went missing two months before the outbreak 
in early 2001.  (7)  While it is still unknown who was  responsible for the 
outbreak, there were certainly many who profited from it.  Merck?s Merial is the 
leading supplier of foot and mouth disease vaccine. (8)  After the UK beef 
market collapsed overnight, Tyson Foods, the US based largest meat and  poultry 
producer and packer in the world expanded its international market into  the 
UK.  The  outbreak proved to be catastrophic to UK agriculture and rural 
families but a lucrative cash cow  to multinational slaughter houses, food 
processors and pharmaceutical companies.   
My flight arrived at midnight  in Panama  City, where I  disembarked and 
waited for another flight to Columbia.  I was  tired and wanted nothing more than 
to get on board and catch a few hours sleep,  but I was about to learn a 
lesson  about the political benefits of unleashing fear.  Unbeknownst to me, a 
flight from Tokyo  had arrived at San Jose International airport on red alert 
after the cabin crew  informed US ground officials of five people aboard suspected 
of having SARS. The  reason for the alert, as it later turned out, was that 
the passengers had simply  coughed. Official fear mongering included few actual 
facts about SARS, an  atypical pneumonia virus, which had only ever lived in 
a bio-lab before it  appeared in several Asian countries simultaneously.   Of 
the alleged 2960 cases of SARS  worldwide, 119 people died, a death rate of 4% 
from the virus.  In comparison, 3-5 million people are  affected by seasonal 
influenza virus, having identical symptoms, resulting in  between 250 000 and 
500 000 deaths every year around the world, mainly affecting  high risk groups 
such as the elderly, poorly mourished or chronically ill.  (10)    
Dr. Loraine Day MD, a  distinguished US physician states; ?The supposed 
disorder of "SARS": A.. CANNOT be distinguished, by its  symptoms, from virtually 
ANY other mild or severe respiratory disorder!  And  B. CANNOT be distinguished 
by any  specific microorganism!  If I, a highly trained physician, CANNOT  
distinguish SARS from ANY OTHER type of routine pneumonia based on ANY of the  
government's published information, how are lay people going to do it? ?. (12)  
The atmosphere seemed  unusually tense around the Panama terminal during the 
early hours of the  morning. 
I drank from my bottle of  water, and cleared my throat after the dry air on 
the plane had irritated  it.  This caught the eye of several  uniformed health 
department personnel scanning the crowd in the transit lounge.  I looked away 
as I felt two sets of dark eyes scanning me suspiciously.  When a passing 
crowd of travelers  obscured the officials? view of me I hastily moved away to 
another lounge.  Why?  Because, new public health legislation  around the world 
modeled on the US Model State Emergency Health Powers Act means  to allow 
force in detaining and quarantining anyone, using the latest disease as a reason,  
whether it actually exists or not.  That means fasten your seatbelts  
travelers, because now flight attendants, cleaners, teachers, general informants  and 
bureaucrats will be practicing medicine without a license.  Personally, I?d 
rather take my chances  with a real doctor than an airport employee.  

Bird Flu ?  Pandemic of  Greed 
Since my trip I wondered why the  first SARS deaths involved Asian scientists 
working in a biohazard lab with west  Nile virus and bird flu. The bird flu 
has made its rounds yearly, severely  affecting Asian countries where 117 
people have allegedly been infected and 60  have allegedly died since 1997. Most 
deaths occurred in Vietnam, where scientific facilities are barely adequate to  
make a definitive diagnosis.  
Prior to 1997, the wild  bird flu was a rare and relatively mild virus 
affecting only birds.  The first case of bird flu affecting a  human appeared in 
Asia in  1997. Apparently the wild virus had mysteriously changed to H5N1 strain, 
a  variety that could very rarely affect humans when ingesting infected meat 
or in  very close contact with birds. The ?high path? H5N1 strain appeared 
suddenly and  has been known to be located in many bio-hazard labs around the 
world.  When the Associated Press reported the  death of a 60-year-old woman 
allegedly of bird flu, the U.S. Government halted  "all chicken imports from 
China in a move to curb the spread of the virus."  Shortly after, the first wave 
of  slaughter began with 1.2 million Asian chickens. By 2003, 40 million birds 
had  been slaughtered and Tyson foods, the Arkansas based largest meat 
producer and packer in the world  has been making steady inroads into the  previously 
closed Asian poultry market, filling the gap in production.  The ?high path? 
H5N1 strain hit the  Asian countries hardest, such as Thailand, Japan, 
Vietnam and China who rely on poultry products for export and pose a real  
competition to giant US based meant processing corporations. These countries  have had 
strong independent markets catering to domestic poultry needs,  traditionally 
impenetrable to western imports.   Meanwhile the US reported a ?low path? 
H5N2 outbreak of bird flu in Texas in 2004, which has not disrupted US exports.   
Tyson Foods chief administrative  officer, Greg Lee, is reported by Reuters 
to have said: "We are seeing and do  expect to see some positive benefit as a 
result of disruptions in some of the  Asian production," (11)    Meanwhile, 
since May 2005, new  outbreaks of high path H5N1 bird flu strain has cut a swathe 
across poultry in  Russia, Greece, Holland, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Romania, 
Mongolia and Croatia,  where massive poultry exterminations have begun. The 
poultry infection near the  eastern block has caused widespread suspicion. A member 
of the Liberal  Democratic faction of the Russian State Duma, Aleksei 
Mitrofanov, has said in a  parliamentary speech that bird flu was invented by 
Americans who wanted to  dominate the world?s poultry markets.  (13)  
Dr. Len Horowitz, US  independent public health expert writes; ?According to 
USA Today (October 9, 2005),  ?European health officials are working to 
contain the [avian flu] virus, which  so far has not infected anyone in the region.? 
Although, allegedly ?more than  140 million birds have died or been 
destroyed, . . . and financial losses to the  poultry sector have topped $10 billion.? 
This propaganda actually admits, ?the  current virus, known as H5N1, has not 
yet mutated to the point at which it can  easily spread from person to person.? 
In fact, it is likely to have never spread  from person to person other than 
during laboratory handling!?  He further states: ?In not a single case has 
human-to-human  communicability been confirmed. So long as that remains the 
case, there is no  bird flu threat to the human population of places such as 
Vietnam, much less  the United  States.?     
DR. Nancy Cox, Chief,  Influenza Branch, CDC (Centers for Disease Control) 
has said during a February  2004 news conference, ? ?As you've  already heard, 
avian influenza viruses usually do not infect humans.?   Meanwhile, the 
prestigious British Medical Journal editorial October  2005 Quotes; ?The lack of 
sustained human-to-human  transmission suggests that this H5N1 avian virus does 
not currently  have the capacity to cause a human pandemic?.   Despite the 
scientific evidence to  the contrary, US and global health officials insist on 
calling the bird  flu a human pandemic. A UN spokesman David Nabarro said in late 
2005; ?5 million to 150 million people "could" be  killed "if" the virus 
mutated and jumped to humans. ?  While Health and Human Services  Secretary Mike 
Leavitt, said in the US Senate; ?If it isn?t the current H5N1 virus that  
leads to an influenza pandemic, at some point in our nation?s future, another  
virus will.?    
Meanwhile panic is being  spread globally. An October 31, 2005 article in the 
Australian Age newspaper states;  ?DISASTER experts from the Asia-Pacific  
region will meet in Brisbane today to  discuss how to cope with a global 
outbreak of deadly bird flu, amid warnings  that international travel would be 
virtually wiped out in a pandemic.?  While the Canberra Times reported:  ?Health 
Minister Tony Abbott yesterday said  overseas travel would almost cease for a 
"significant period" if avian flu broke  out in the region. ? (18) Australia, 
regarded by some as the Asia Pacific regional  policeman for implementing global 
policies, has not had a case of bird flu to  date.  
Without a sign of a human  epidemic, on October 28, 2005 the US Senate passed 
an $8 billion emergency bill to  fund research, drugs and vaccines, based on 
no scientific evidence that bird flu  constitutes a significant human threat 
and overwhelming evidence to the  contrary. The administration is seeking an 
additional $6 billion to $10 billion  from US taxpayers, according to a current 
Business Week report.  "President Bush this week asked the leaders  of the 
world's top vaccine manufacturers - Chiron, Sanofi-Aventis, Wyeth,  
GlaxoSmithKline and Merck - to come to the White House on Friday to discuss  preparations 
for pandemic flu," reports the New York Times in October.    Meanwhile taxpayer 
billions will  also flow into the coffers of selected pharmaceutical giants 
such as Roche,  which holds the sole license to manufacture Tamiflu, an anti 
viral drug that is  meant only for reducing the symptoms of the seasonal 
influenza and has never  been tested for use for the bird flu.  Thousands of 
Americans are lining up for  their dose when there has not been a single case of 
H5N1bird flu in the US. Without a single human case of  H5N1, Tamiflu is in such 
demand that a  new US factory is being planned to ensure there is more of the  
drug available by the 2006 flu season.  
Meanwhile President Bush is  discussing the use of the military to enforce 
quarantine of suspected bird flu  carriers. The US plans to install a new 
quarantine station at Logan International Airport to diagnose travelers.  
Preliminary discussions include plans to  impose 10 year jail terms on people who breach 
orders to stay at home, in  hospital or within their city during an influenza 
outbreak.  This has resulted in heavy opposition  among independent thinkers. 
  The Boston Globe quotes on October 8, 2005, ?On Tuesday, the president 
suggested that the  United States should confront the risk of a bird flu pandemic 
by giving him the  power to use the US military to quarantine ''part[s] of the 
country"  experiencing an ''outbreak." So we have moved quickly in the past 
month, at  least metaphorically, from the global war on terror to a proposed 
war on  hurricanes, to a proposed war on the bird flu.? (14)    
Quotes an editorial on  Freemarketnews.com:  ?President Bush's recent remarks 
about  mandating vaccinations for avian flu is further evidence of the 
militarization  of public health care and would also seem to reflect a dangerous  
misunderstanding about disease and palliative methodologies.?    Many qualified 
doctors would agree,  including Dr. Lorraine Day MD who  states; ?It is 
virtually IMPOSSIBLE to  get sick if your immune system is functioning  properly?. 

SOLUTIONS ? Are Already  Here 
A Culture Change is  spreading around the world, albeit largely unreported by 
mainstream media.  However, more people now source their news, and health 
information from the  internet and alternative new publications than from the 
mainstream media which  is funded by corporate advertisers and reflects corporate 
rather public  interest. Fresh knowledge and truth is blowing a wind of 
change through every  country, profession, corporation and corridor of power on the 
planet. The truth  in fact is astonishingly powerful.  It empowers people to 
act, to challenge  wrongs, to make informed choices, to create authentic 
lives, to have better  options, to resist deception, to have; more power, 
confidence, better  communication, more faith, hope, and love.  In contrast to creating 
wars, the truth makes for better families, better  communities and more 
freedom.  
For example, it is  increasingly known that main stream medicine is becoming 
the leading cause of  death because it is dominated by improper drug company 
and bio-tech influences.  Health professionals and ethical  scientists are now 
reporting truth in medicine and science from independent  websites and 
alternative news publications, and millions are clicking on to get  important health 
and scientific information. Lawyers are now tracking legal and  Constitutional 
abuses. Activists and independent consumer advocates are now  reaching 
millions of people, spawning a host of information and support  organizations, 
ethical companies and investment opportunities.   Scores of former main stream 
journalists  are becoming independent, reporting news on alternative news sites, 
with some  creating their own popular identities as ethical broadcasters, 
investigative  writers and filmmakers.  This  alternative media is attracting 
millions of readers each day who have abandoned  mainstream media sources. This has 
caused a massive resurgence of grass roots  health care, activism, 
literature, democracy, family values, morality and  spirituality, which is threatening 
to rattle the cages of those in power. 
?Things  have changed.? Writes Ignacio Ramonet  in La Monde. ??even the ?
masters of the  world? are not free of trouble... the G8 leaders were besieged 
and publicly  upstaged by upwards of 200,000 demonstrators?people are not 
impressed.  Democratic election does not justify presidents when they betray their 
electoral  promises and the public interest, or embark on wholesale 
privatization ? Nor  does it entitle them to move heaven and earth to service the 
demands of the  companies that financed their electoral campaigns.?   

Some Independent  Sources 

1. Seek a balance of  information from independent media sources.  
_http://www.michaelmoore.com/_ (http://www.michaelmoore.com/)  , 
_http://www.fintandunne.com/_ (http://www.fintandunne.com/)  ,  
_http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml_ (http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml) ,    
_http://www.independent-media.tv/index.cfm_ 
(http://www.independent-media.tv/index.cfm)   and many  other alternative media sources.   
2. Public health  information and health freedom sites; try  
_www.mercola.com_ (http://www.mercola.com/)  ,  or  _http://www.drday.com/_ 
(http://www.drday.com/)    or  
_http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm_ (http://www.mercola.com/2005/oct/25/avian_flu_epidemic_is_a_hoax.htm)  or 
_www.evehillary.org_ (http://www.evehillary.org/)  or 
_http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/v-kaiser.htm_ 
(http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/v-kaiser.htm) , _http://www.credence.org/_ (http://www.credence.org/)   or many  others 
include information on how to stay healthy naturally,  despite increased 
manufactured illness  and official misinformation.                       
3. Before consenting to any  vaccine, check the information from National 
Vaccine information Centre _http://www.nvic.org/_ (http://www.nvic.org/)   or  
_http://www.avn.org.au/_ (http://www.avn.org.au/)   or  
_www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness.html_ 
(http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness.html)    
4. Information on vaccine  exemptions; _http://thinktwice.com/_ 
(http://thinktwice.com/)     Also everyone has the right to make  contracts or agreements 
with others.  You may hold your health care provider legally accountable in any 
 jurisdiction for any administered vaccination or invasive medication or  
treatment by requiring them to sign a private agreement to accept full legal  
liability for any damages that may occur as a result of the  
vaccination/medication/treatment.  See _http://www.vaclib.org/legal/accept1.htm_ 
(http://www.vaclib.org/legal/accept1.htm)  or _www.vaclib.org/exempt/australia.htm_ 
(http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/australia.htm)   for a  sample agreement. Vaccine 
exemptions are also possible in Africa.  Or enroll your child into the newly forming 
vaccine free preschools.   
5. Support The Institute of Science in Society who want Independent science 
supported ? to  establish broad funding criteria that put public interest ahead 
of 'wealth  creation', and to include ethical and safety considerations 
before the research  is funded.?  _http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ISPF7.php_ 
(http://www.i-sis.org.uk/ISPF7.php)  .  Sign up for their excellent newsletter.  
6. Judiciary watchdog; _http://www.judgewatch.org/top/search.htm_ 
(http://www.judgewatch.org/top/search.htm)   

References 
1.                   Original story appeared on April 4th only on the Italian 
 newspaper "La Repubblica" under the title: _"Da super scienziato a grande 
untore il paziente zero del  virus killer"._ 
(http://www.repubblica.it/online/cronaca/virusdue/zero/zero.html) . written by Marco  Lupis 
2.                   Channelnewsasia report April 2003. 
3.                   Death in the Air Globalism Terrorism and Toxic Warfare  
by Dr. Leonard Horowitz .  Tetrahedron Publishing Group. 2001 
4.                   _FindLaw.com_ (http://findlaw.com/) , November 26,  2003 
5.                   Anthrax Attacks Pushed Open an Ominous Door  22 
September,  2002
By Barbara Hatch Rosenberg Chair, Federation of American Scientists Working  
Group on Biological Weapons ,  Professor, SUNY-Purchase 
6.                   _http://www.whale.to/a/kihura.htm_ 
(http://www.whale.to/a/kihura.htm)   
7.                   _http://www.greens.org/s-r/27/27-16.html_ 
(http://www.greens.org/s-r/27/27-16.html)   
8.                   _http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen-info/facts.htm_ 
(http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/gen-info/facts.htm)    
9.                   _http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1320_ 
(http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=1320)   
10.                
_http://www.masternewmedia.org/2003/04/24/sars_separating_fact_from_fiction.htm_ 
(http://www.masternewmedia.org/2003/04/24/sars_separating_fact_from_fiction.htm)    
11.                _http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067203/posts_ 
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067203/posts)   
12.                _http://www.drday.com/sars.htm_ 
(http://www.drday.com/sars.htm)   
13.                MosNews, Moscow, 21 October, 2005.  
14.                Published on Saturday, October 8,  2005 by the _Boston  
Globe_ (http://www.boston.com/) , Bush's Risky Flu Pandemic Plan  by George J. 
Annas.  
15.                 Presidents  under pressure By Ignacio Ramonet  in La 
Monde. August 2001 
16.                
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_State_Emergency_Health_Powers_Act_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_State_Emergency_Health_Powers_Act)   
17.                ?The  Rise of Global Activism? A feature article by Eve 
Hillary 2004. _www.evehillary.org_ (http://www.evehillary.org/)   
18.                Canberra Times 30 October 2005    
Hillary  Eve is based in Sydney, Australia.  She has been as a  free-lance 
investigative writer for over ten  years and the author of Health  Betrayal and 
Children of a Toxic  Harvest.   
As an internationally published  writer and speaker, Eve specializes in 
documenting the human impact of  multinational medical and biotech corporations, 
emerging epidemics, gene  pollution, chemical pollution, government regulators, 
CODEX and their  implications to human health.   Eve has  spent 25 years in 
health care as a health practitioner where she has observed  the medical 
industry at first hand from the inside. 
Eve has mainly reported on material  that the mainstream media ignores.  She 
is convinced there is a global grass roots Health Freedom and Social  Justice 
movement emerging that will bring about a phenomenal renaissance in the  years 
to come.  
In 2005, Eve conducted a Health  Freedom campaign in Australia to preserve 
natural health  supplements from the influence of CODEX Alimentarius.   
Knowledge is power, and Eve?s  primary objective is to return this power to 
the individuals whose lives depend  on it.  She uncompromisingly  believes that 
knowing the truth is a right that belongs to the public.                      
          _www.evehillary.org_ (http://www.evehillary.org/)    
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From: peterfleming at earthlink.net (Peter Fleming)
Date: Mon Nov 21 14:48:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hemp - The crop with 50,000 commercial uses. 
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AMERICA'S PARENTS: A SOCIETY THAT HAS RIGHTEOUSLY
        CRIMINALIZED ITS CHILDREN..made them criminals
 and for what? for choosing a mind altering substance
  less harmful than all the substances parents use!!
 
If you have any concerns about our rarely mentioned,
   Grand Prohibition of hemp, that criminalizes our children, 
      for using the least harmful mind altering substance,
      remember it is not addicting, there is no painful withdrawal 
        as with alcohol and so many illicit and prescriptive drugs.
 
Below, you will read about a wealth of historically proven uses        
of HEMP, this ageless plant throughout time that has been virtually
          removed from our culture
      Now only underworld dealers, rather than the 
        world of legitimate business have the
         government approved license** to sell to kids.
 
**those willing to break the law capture the exclusive privilege
  to grow, market and sell prohibited hemp; it's a virtual license.
 

  We could put all our farmers back to work tomorrow

  We can virtually save the environment repudiating one law. 

 

 

The Marijuana Trick - The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
      by Doug Yurchey, 2005


        Talk about propaganda tricks with words........this is one of the
biggest................
         Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the
M-word was created to tarnish the good image 

       and phenomenal history of the hemp plant...as you will read. The
facts cited here, with references, 

      are generally verifiable in the Encyclopaedia Britannica which was
printed on hemp paper for 150 years: 
      

* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp
Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. 

* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early
1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981. 

 * REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS
AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp
from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.

 * George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP;
Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China
to France then to America. 

 * Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it
processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted
to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.


 * For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from
hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for hemp; Webster's New World Dictionary. 

 * 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc.
were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.


 * The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of
the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp;
U.S. Government Archives. 

 * The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for
Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the
20th Century; State Archives. 

 * Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China,
although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. 

 * Rembrandts, Gainsborough's, Van Gogh's as well as most early canvas
paintings were principally painted on hemp linen. 

 * In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would
come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government
studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in
the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture 

 * Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937.
58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935;
Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937
Marijuana Tax Act. 

 * Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR
ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed
among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic
panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular
Mechanics, 1941. 

 * Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had
a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb.,
1938. 

 * Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled
'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that
if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single
largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world. 

      The following information comes directly from the United States
Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and instructing
'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp each year for the
war effort: 
      '...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the
service of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been
grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For
centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western seas
were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less than the
hangman, hemp was indispensable... 
      ...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of
the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as
well as of our industries... 

      ...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American
hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; hemp
for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and shore.
Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas victorious with her
hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!' 

      Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of
Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 USDA
film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist. 
      

      Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA
Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp as wood with
at least 4 to 7 times less pollution. 

      From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938: 
      'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The
long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for
the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the
ground, chokes out weeds. 
      ...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture
and industry.' 

      In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an
industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could have
created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality products. Hemp,
if not made illegal, would have brought America out of the Great Depression.


      William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper
Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of timberlands.
The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty Hearst's grandfather,
a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit, stood to lose billions
because of hemp. 

      In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and
coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new
petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, celluloid,
methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from oil. Natural
hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of Dupont's business.
       
      THE TRICKS 
      Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's
primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. Anslinger,
to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. 
      Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was
declared dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For
their dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure
Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of
America. 

      MEDIA MANIPULATION 
      A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and
1930s. Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana.
The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was
responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality. 
      Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth'
(1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed by
these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain public
support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed. 

      Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER
MADNESS: 
      *a violent narcotic. 
      *acts of shocking violence. 
      *incurable insanity. 
      *soul-destroying effects. 
      *under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an
axe. 
      *more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs
(heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana! 

      Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film
concluded with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. 

      In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance.
The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They did
not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, they
believed it had to be true. They told their children and their children grew
up to be the parents of the baby-boomers. 

      On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that
outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means Committee.
This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to the House floor
without it being debated by other committees. The Chairman of the Ways and
Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter. He insured that the bill
would pass Congress. 

      Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on
behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that the
reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was that the
Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp. 

      Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been
reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA
understood hemp to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products sold
over the last hundred years. 
      In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known
became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since. 

      Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most
violence-causing drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31
years, promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In
the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said the
exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers would not
want to fight. 

      Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as
large tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are
killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we industrialized
hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's energy needs that
are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have consumed 80% of our oil and
gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. Hemp could be the solution to
soaring gas prices. 
       
      THE WONDER PLANT 
      Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic
chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp paper
does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly to
maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime. 

      ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen
plastics are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm
the environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with,
help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the
future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) plastics
will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical companies have
done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil Industry and the
political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural. 

      MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when
the AMA supported hemp cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out legally to
only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into a system that
relies on chemicals. Hemp is only healthy for the human body. 

      WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be
generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of protein
in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean your body of
cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found anywhere else in
nature! Consuming hemp seeds is the best thing you could do for your body.
Eat uncooked hemp seeds. 

      CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong
and durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from hemp, down to your
grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp clothing;
usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, they are
almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to advertise on
fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing state, made it
ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being thrown into jail for
wearing quality jeans? 

      The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the
insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes your
children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word 'marijuana.'
Realize the history that created it. Make it politically incorrect to say or
print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda (designed to favor the agenda
of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp must be utilized in the future. We
need a clean energy source to save our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP! 

      The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars
a day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. We
have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: 'It's more dangerous
than we thought.' Lies from the powerful corporations, that began with
Hearst, are still alive and well today. 

      The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a
joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-hemp
commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The new
enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY see fit. 

      There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to;
the war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing
the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE
CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY ALCOHOL. 

      Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving
asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by
chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of being.


      The hemp plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that hemp
is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was
brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY plant where the
males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No
one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because
plants do not show their sexes; except for hemp. To determine what sex a
certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA.
A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of
grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuality. 

      HEMP IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!

 
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more consumed with hunger in the land.
      -- Ezekiel 34/29



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A Nation Under God

Let others worry about the rapture: For the increasingly powerful Christian Reconstruction movement, the task is to establish the Kingdom of God right now—from the courthouse to the White House.

by John Sugg

November/December 2005 Issue

     TRINITY CHAPEL in suburban Atlanta’s Cobb County is hardly the picture of a revolutionary outpost. It’s a stylishly modern Church of God—a denomination that, though conservative, is certainly mainstream. Parishioners are drawn from a community whose average income is a comfortable 35 percent above the national norm, whose tree-lined country roads intersect McMansion subdivisions. If Norman Rockwell were painting suburban sprawl, he’d likely pick Cobb County. 
     On a Friday last April, Trinity’s parking lot filled with SUVs and luxury sedans as about 400 faithful gathered inside the sanctuary. The church was host to Restore America, a rally to “celebrate faith and patriotism” sponsored by Christian publisher American Vision. In the lobby, neatly blue-blazered youths were hawking So Help Me God, Roy Moore’s account of his dethroning as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Tables were piled with textbooks for homeschoolers, tomes denouncing evolution, booklets waxing nostalgic for the antebellum South. That afternoon the congregants, who’d come to the conference from conservative churches around the region, would hear from Sadie Fields, president of Georgia’s Christian Coalition, and they’d sway in rhythm as country crooner Steve Vaus sang “We Must Take America Back.”
     But the marquee pitchman of the day was Moore. Ruggedly handsome, with the military bearing he acquired at West Point, Moore has gained a rock-star following on the Christian right—a Moses to lead the chosen from a godless society. The judge has a stunning memory for long literary passages and judicial opinions, and he chants them in the singsongy, down-home style of Southern demagogues from Theo Bilbo to George Wallace—“God” is “Gawud,” with an upward lilt. When he proclaimed that “God is still sovereign, no matter what federal judges say,” the crowd tittered and applauded. When he intoned that “there is no right to sodomy in the Constitution,” they cheered. When he roared that unless judges “acknowledge God,” they “should be impeached,” the righteous noise shook the rafters. 
     It could have been nothing more than a half-hour rebel yell—except that Moore is more than the latest prophet of the religious right. He stands a good chance of being the next governor of Alabama; he’s also arguably the single most significant politician to owe his ascendancy to Christian Reconstruction—an obscure but increasingly potent theology whose top exponents hold that Christian crusaders must conquer and convert the world, by the sword if necessary, before Jesus will return. 
     Moore has never declared himself a Reconstructionist. But he is a frequent orator at gatherings whose organizers are part of the movement. The primary theologians, activists, and websites of Reconstruction laud him as a hero. Moore’s lawyer in the Ten Commandments fight, Herb Titus, is a Reconstructionist, as are many of his most vocal supporters, including Gary DeMar, the organizer of the Restore America rally and the head of American Vision, one of the most prolific publishers of the movement.
     Reconstruction is the spark plug behind much of the battle over religion in politics today. The movement’s founder, theologian Rousas John Rushdoony, claimed 20 million followers—a number that includes many who embrace the Reconstruction tenets without having joined any organization. Card-carrying Reconstructionists are few, but their influence is magnified by their leadership in Christian right crusades, from abortion to homeschooling. 
     Reconstructionists also exert significant clout through front organizations and coalitions with other religious fundamentalists; Baptists, Anglicans, and others have deep theological differences with the movement, but they have made common cause with its leaders in groups such as the National Coalition for Revival. Reconstruction has slowly absorbed, congregation by congregation, the conservative Presbyterian Church in America (not to be confused with the progressive Presbyterian Church [USA]) and has heavily influenced others, notably the Southern Baptists. 
     George W. Bush has called Reconstruction-influenced theoretician Marvin Olasky “compassionate conservatism’s leading thinker,” and Olasky served as one of the president’s key advisers on the creation of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. Bush also invited Reconstructionist Jack Hayford, a key figure in the Promise Keepers men’s group, to give the benediction at his first inaugural. Deposed House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, though his office won’t comment on his religious views, governs with what he calls a “biblical worldview”—one of Reconstruction’s signature phrases. And, for conspiracy buffs, two heavy contributors to the Chalcedon Foundation—Reconstruction’s main think tank—are Howard Ahmanson and Nelson Bunker Hunt, both of whose families played key roles in financing electronic voting machine manufacturer Election Systems & Software. Ahmanson is also a major sponsor of ultraconservative politicians, including California state legislator and 2003 g!
ubernatorial candidate Tom McClintock. 
     Yet for all its influence, Reconstruction is almost invisible to the media and secular society. Atlanta is ground zero for most Reconstruction activity—home office to DeMar’s publishing house and home district to movement prophet Larry McDonald, who served four terms in Congress in the 1970s and 1980s—but the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has done only one major article on the movement. The entire Lexis-Nexis database includes only 43 articles from all of the U.S. media that make reference to Reconstruction, and only a handful of those explore the movement. “A hundred years ago, newspapers published the sermons preachers preached on Sunday,” notes Ed Larson, a University of Georgia historian. “Everyone knew what the Baptists believed, or the Lutherans or the Presbyterians. That’s no longer the case. And it has worked to the benefit of Reconstructionists as they doggedly pursued their goal.” 
     Reconstructionists aren’t shy about what exactly it is they are pursuing: “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise,” Gary North, a top Reconstruction theorist, wrote in his 1989 book, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism. “Those who refuse to submit publicly…must be denied citizenship.”
      
     WITH HIS KHAKI PANTS and checkered shirts, Gary DeMar could be one of a million guys meeting weekly in men’s groups at churches around the country. Bright and articulate, he’s soft-spoken until he gets in front of a crowd. His publishing house distributes hundreds of tracts, more than 20 of them written by DeMar himself, with titles such as The Politically Incorrect Guides to Islam (and the Crusades), which promises “all the disturbing facts about Islam and its murderous hostility to the West,” and The Marketing of Evil, which covers everything “from easy divorce and unrestricted abortion-on-demand to extreme body piercing and teaching homosexuality to grade-schoolers.” 
     I first met DeMar 18 months ago at his church, Midway Presbyterian, in the Atlanta suburb of Powder Springs, where he was teaching a class on government. During the session, a teenage homeschooler talked about how he had tried in a paper to prove that the family is a form of “Christian government.” “You don’t have to prove that,” DeMar gently chided, and then added, with more heat: “That’s established—established by God!” DeMar’s lecture focused on the “three governments”—family, church, and state—all of which, he told me, should be ruled by God-fearing men.
     The Old Testament—with its 600 or so Mosaic laws—is the inflexible guide for the society DeMar and other Reconstructionists envision. Government posts would be reserved for the righteous, as long as they are male. There would be thousands of executions a year, with stoning a preferred method because it would turn the deaths into “community projects,” as movement theologian North has noted. Sinners in line for the death penalty would include women who commit adultery or lie about their virginity, blasphemers, witches, children who strike their parents, and gay men (lesbians, however, would be spared because no specific reference to them can be found in the Books of Moses). DeMar told me that among Reconstructionists he is considered something of a liberal, because he’d execute gays only if they were caught indulging in sodomy. “I’m happy to just drive them back into the closet,” he said. 
     In introducing Moore at the Trinity Chapel rally, DeMar told the crowd that he supports a “jurisdictional separation of church and state.” But he was not mounting a defense of the First Amendment so much as outlining an organizational distinction. In his book Liberty at Risk, DeMar writes that “the State cannot be neutral towards the Christian faith. Any obstacle that would jeopardize the preaching of the Word of God…must be opposed by civil government.” 
     Besides facilitating evangelism, Reconstructionists believe, government should largely be limited to building and maintaining roads, enforcing land-use contracts, and ensuring just weights and measures. Unions would not exist, and neither would unemployment benefits, Social Security, and environmental protection laws. Public schools would disappear; one of the movement’s great successes has been promoting homeschooling programs and publishing texts used by tens of thousands of homeschooling families. And, perhaps most importantly, the state is “God’s minister,” as DeMar puts it in Liberty at Risk, “taking vengeance out on those who do evil.” A major task for the government key Reconstructionists envision is fielding armies for conquest in the name of Jesus. 
     Reconstruction’s premises may fly in the face of mainstream Christianity, and some of its leaders’ beliefs would probably surprise even the movement’s own foot soldiers. But what has made the theology such an explosive addition to public life is not its dogma on individual issues so much as its trumpet call to action. This is a faith in which religion is not an influence on politics; it is politics. 
      
     FOR DECADES AFTER the 1925 Scopes monkey trial, Christian fundamentalists were almost invisible in civic discourse. Then, in 1981, a book by scholar Francis Schaeffer, A Christian Manifesto, heralded a counterattack. America, Schaeffer argued, was careening into the abyss of humanistic secularism. Christians needed to take bold action to restore biblical principles and erase divisions between religion and civic life. To ignite the movement, Schaeffer mapped out a battle campaign—a crusade against abortion, which, he said, “would be worth spending much of our lifetimes to fight against.”
     For years, the antiabortion movement had been mostly Catholic. Schaeffer understood that the cause had the potential to galvanize broad masses of Protestants. “Schaeffer made abortion an issue for Christians more than anyone else, and he commanded Christian soldiers to start marching,” says the University of Georgia’s Larson. Manifesto sold almost 250,000 copies the year after Ronald Reagan became president—a period when the nation was veering to the right after becoming exhausted from the social movements of the previous two decades. 
     If Schaeffer was Reconstruction’s John the Baptist, Rushdoony was its pope. Born in 1916 to Armenian immigrants, Rushdoony graduated from the University of California-Berkeley before becoming an ardent foe of secular education and the author of a series of texts that redefined conservative theology. 
     Rushdoony, who died in 2001, articulated a doctrine called “presuppositionalism.” All issues are religious in nature, he posited, and people don’t have the right or the ability to define for themselves what’s true; for that they must turn to a literal reading of the Bible. His defining tome, the 800-page Institutes of Biblical Law, was published in 1973. But because of its extremism and overt racism—Rushdoony denied the Holocaust and defended segregation and slavery—Institutes and its author were largely ignored in mainstream circles until the movement launched by Schaeffer found its intellectual grounding in Rushdoony’s writings.
     At the heart of Rushdoony’s argument were two biblical passages. Genesis 1:28 commands men to have “dominion” over “every living thing.” And in Matthew 28:18-20, the “Great Commission,” Jesus commands his followers to proselytize to the world. Thus was born dominion theology. (Not all dominionists are Reconstruction apostles—but the differences are a matter of theological finesse, and political strategies are largely indistinguishable.) Adam and Eve broke their covenant with God, and Satan seized dominion. Christian Reconstruction claims it has a reconstituted covenant with God and the right to a new dominion in his name. 
     In this worldview, the mandate for Christians is not just to live right or to help their neighbors: They are called upon to take over or eliminate the institutions of secular government. 
     This is what sets Reconstruction apart from the conventional Christian right and gives it a key advantage in organizing. 
     Traditionally, groups like Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority were “premillennial”: They believed that humanity was inevitably headed for Armageddon, which would most likely arrive with a nuclear blast, whereupon Christ would appear in the Second Coming and set things right. “The debate was over whether Brezhnev was the Antichrist,” says the University of Georgia’s Larson. 
     Reconstruction’s alternative was “postmillennialism”: Christ would not return until the church had claimed dominion over government, and most of the world’s population had accepted the Reconstruction brand of Christianity. The postmillennial twist offered hope to the pious that they could change things—as long as they got organized. (Reconstructionists angrily denounce end-times visions like those of Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series: If these are the Last Days, American Vision’s website points out, “then why bother trying to fix a broken world that is about to be thrown on the ash heap of history? Why concern ourselves with education, healthcare, the economy, or peace in the Mideast? Why polish brass on a sinking ship?”) 
     For premillennialists, Reconstruction’s revolutionary philosophy offered an opportunity to turbocharge the religious right. Most conservative churches opposed abortion, for example, but Reconstruction-influenced groups such as Randall Terry’s Operation Rescue were willing to field soldiers and take the fight to the enemy. This not only emboldened activists, it gave Reconstructionists a chance to spread their organizing message: If you want to do God’s work, this needs to be God’s nation. 
     Similarly, Baptist morality focused on personal choices, such as avoiding drinking. But Reconstructionists didn’t tell believers to shun sin. They said to conquer it, even if the price was jail or martyrdom. Paul Hill, the antiabortion activist executed two years ago for the 1994 murders of abortion clinic workers in Pensacola, Florida, had been a minister in the Reconstruction-dominated Presbyterian Church in America. 
     The old left—the Communist Party and its many splinters—used organizing tactics called popular fronts, in which people were recruited through specific causes into a 
     movement tacitly guided by the Party. Reconstruction has married those Leninist tactics to the causes of the right—abortion, evolution, gay marriage, school prayer. Gary North wrote in 1982, in an effort to reach Baptists,“We must use the doctrine of religious liberty…until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy constructing a Bible-based social, political, and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.” Nowhere at the Restore America rally did anyone hoist a banner for Reconstruction; those attending came to develop a united front supporting such things as displaying the Ten Commandments in public buildings. But they were also introduced—and recruited—to the broader program.
     Reconstruction’s major impact has been through helping to found and guide cross-denominational and secular political organ-izations. The Council for National Policy—a group that holds meetings for right-wing leaders, once dubbed “the most powerful conservative group you’ve never heard of”—was founded in 1981 as a project of top John Birch Society figures (see “The Fountainhead”). Its members included Rushdoony, Gary North, Tim LaHaye, former Reagan aide Gary Bauer, and activist Paul Weyrich, who famously aimed to “overturn the present power structure of this country.”
     Another group, the Coalition on Revival, brings together influential evangelicals to produce joint statements and theological white papers. North and DeMar are among the coalition’s most influential members; one of its founding documents is signed by 116 Christian right activists, including Rushdoony, mega-evangelist D. James Kennedy, and Roy Jones, a top staffer at the Republican Senatorial Committee.
     When I last saw Gary DeMar, he was shepherding Roy Moore through a crowd of true believers at the Restore America rally. As they walked by, I asked Moore, “Do you favor a theocracy?” The judge turned and looked at me, shook his head, frowned, and walked away. But DeMar, in our interview, had already answered the question. 
     “All governments are theocracies,” he said. “We now live in a secular humanist theocracy. I want to change that to a government with God at its head.” 

John Sugg is senior editor for the Creative Loafing group of alternative newsweeklies. Before joining Tampa's Weekly Planet in 1995, he wrote and edited for the Miami Herald, Atlanta Constitution, Palm Beach Post, and American Lawyer.  He is at work on a book on the history of the antievolution movement in Georgia.

     
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Date: Mon Nov 21 16:54:12 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Does the Bible Tell Me So?
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Does the Bible Tell Me So?

How Americans Misread the Good Book 

by Ann Monroe

November/December 1997 Issue

     
      Plus: Faith Healing Hoax. 
      America is in the grip of a biblical frenzy. Books claiming to contain divine instructions fill bookstore shelves (one popular set is actually called the God's Little Instruction Book series). Athletes, who used to just play ball while fundamentalists in the crowd held up signs pointing television viewers to John 3:16, are now shouting biblical slogans themselves. Boxer Evander Holyfield even credited Jesus Christ with his world heavyweight victory. Forty-two percent of Americans believe the Bible is the literal word of God, up almost 5 percent since 1987. 
      Some of this Bible-thumping gets a bit goofy. A former country music promoter is building an amusement park, God's Wonderful World, featuring a visit to hell complete with blasts of heated air from below. And some of it's scary, because religious fundamentalists are not just preaching their version of biblical values, they're beating the rest of the country over the head with them. Ending welfare, praying in public schools, teaching creationism, eliminating "special treatment" for gays—the whole gamut of politically conservative rallying cries comes wrapped in a biblical halo: It's God's will, and here's the big black book to prove it. 
      Mainstream religious folk have tried to fight back. Organizations such as the National Council of Churches and the National Council of Jewish Women attack conservative policies. But whatever the political success of these organizations (lately, it's been depressingly low), on the biblical front they've lost the battle. Americans may love the Bible or loathe it. But for the most part, they read it the same way (when they read it at all): as the manifesto of a God who has a lot of laws and a definite inclination to punish those who don't follow them. 
      Even nonbelievers see it that way. Take New Yorker John Hart, who joined a church Bible study in part to understand the enemy. "One of the big problems is this sense of moral certitude," he says. "There is a God, and God makes rules, and this is what happens when the rules don't get obeyed." 
      Fundamentalists argue smugly that liberals are losers when it comes to the Bible because they're just plain wrong. But there's an eclectic mix of scholars and writers who don't buy that explanation. Liberals have lost the biblical battle, these scholars say, because, even while they reject conservative interpretations of the Bible, they've been unable to shake free of conservative assumptions about the Bible. 
      Americans—and not just conservatives—are by nature fundamentalists, says Bruce Bawer, a poet, literary critic, and author of the forthcoming book Stealing Jesus: How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity. "Anything that's not useful is without meaning," he says. "The whole country was settled by people who had to be very pragmatic. When we read the Bible, if a statement has a noun and a verb, we want to believe it's literally true and use it in some way." 
      That makes the Bible a prickly document. Most of the stories in the Bible—God's creation of the world in six days, Moses' bringing the Israelites out of Egypt by parting the Red Sea, and of course all of Jesus' miracles—are, to a scientific worldview, highly improbable. And a lot of what God is described as doing, from demanding that Abraham sacrifice his only son to striking a pair of early Christians dead because they wanted to hang on to some of their own property, seems downright nasty. 
      With so much in the Bible to be disliked or discounted, there seems to be little left for liberals to do but engage in the same kind of moral prescriptiveness the religious right has made so unattractive. "Fundamentalists buy into truth as factuality, but Christian liberals have also tended to accept the idea that factuality and truthfulness are the same," says author and biblical scholar Marcus Borg. "The mainline Protestant tendency is to ask what we can pluck from the fire, and extract these rather banal ethical teachings." 
      The result is a war of "proof-texts." Conservatives "prove" they're right by quoting one biblical passage, and liberals "prove" they're not by quoting another back at them. Take welfare. "Anyone unwilling to work should not eat," thunders the apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 3:10. "Give to everyone who begs from you," says Jesus in Matthew 5:42. 
      And in a war of competing texts, religious conservatives will always be able to make the clearer, and louder, case. Seeking refuge from modern science and a contemporary moral view that allows for abortion, premarital sex, and homosexuality, they find in the Bible facts and rules that give them comfort. Religious liberals have a much more difficult time of it. Faced with an ancient text like the Bible, they feel stuck with either taking it literally and hating it, or wrestling some usefulness out of it by contextualization and extrapolation. 
      On the vexed subject of homosexuality, for example, conservatives have it easy: Every sentence on the subject in the Bible (all four or five of them) disapproves. On the other hand, seminary professor William Countryman makes a convincing—and thoroughly biblical—case that the teachings of Jesus make homosexuality an irrelevant issue. But it takes him a whole book, Dirt, Greed, and Sex, to do it. In the sound-bite competition that is today's political debate, it's not too hard to figure out who wins. 
      In the end, "proof-texting" says a lot more about us than it does about the Bible. "We get our behavioral codes from our communities," says Countryman, and then we go to the Bible to prove them. Used that way, the Bible is as malleable as those inkblots in a Rorschach test. {publish-page-break} 
     There is another way to read the bible, however, a way that is both ancient and modern, a way that has nothing to do with facts, rules, and proof-texting. It's the way of story and conversation, of imagination and engagement. Mostly lost in American mainline churches, it is the way of reading that has inspired many of the great progressive social movements. When Martin Luther King Jr. said he had been to the mountain, he was not using the Bible to prove that segregation was wrong. He was appropriating its story. As God, through Moses, had led his people out of captivity and taken Moses onto the mountain to show him the promised land they were to enter, so King, too, had been shown the promised land into which his followers were being led. 
      "When I was a child," says Verna Dozier, a popular and respected Bible instructor in Washington, D.C., "the only two books we had were the Bible and Mother Goose, and my mother would read them both to us. That was my blessing. I learned the Bible as a story, and I never had it chopped up into little verses until I went to school." 
      When the integrity of biblical stories is kept intact, rather than being chopped up into sound bites as both evangelizers and mainstream preachers tend to do, it's easier to grasp that biblical truth is much less about facts than about relationships—both within the text and between the reader and the Scripture. "If I can get people to think of themselves as being in a relationship with Scripture," says Roger Ferlo, a former Yale English professor who is now an Episcopal priest and author of Opening the Bible, "then there is a chance they can recognize a relationship with God when they meet one." 
      To read this way is to follow the example of the Bible, which is itself a conversation. After all, it's not a single book, with a single point of view. It's a collection of books (24 to 73 of them, depending on which version—Jewish, Protestant, or Roman Catholic—you're reading), written and rewritten over a thousand-year period by a wildly diverse collection of writers. Modern biblical scholars have traced multiple layers of authorship within the Good Book as writer after writer reshaped the material at hand to reflect new perspectives. 
      A case in point is the story in 1 Samuel of the beginning of Israel's monarchy. The earliest stories of the rise of the monarchy were written as tributes to David, Israel's great king. But after David, the monarchy fell on evil days, and later writers reshaped those stories to reflect their misgivings and apprehensions. The result is an almost schizophrenic God who anoints a king in one breath and, in the next, rails against the Israelites for wanting one. 
      The biggest such reinterpretation came when Christian writers laid claim to the Hebrew Scriptures. Known to the Jewish community as Tanakh, an acronym for the Hebrew names of the Scriptures' three sections, these writings became, in the Christian Bible, simply an Old Testament, or precursor, to the Christian writers' New Testament. The early Christians didn't rewrite the Hebrew Scriptures, but they reimagined them, finding them filled with allusions to Christ—predictions that would have seemed as bizarre to those books' original authors as they do to modern Jews. 
      But biblical writers do more than reinterpret each other; they also just plain argue with each other. The Book of Job is a scathing attack on the simplistic God-rewards-the-righteous theology of much of Psalms and Proverbs; at one point, in fact, Job quotes Psalm 8, turning it on its head in bitter parody. The Bible, in other words, is an open book, not a closed system. 
      Such an approach to the bible does not mean, however, that contemporary readers can interpret the Bible any old way they like. "The word 'interpretation' gives the wrong impression," argues Stanley Hauerwas, author of Unleashing the Scripture: Freeing the Bible From Captivity to America. Fundamentalists, who pride themselves on going straight to the source, wrongly disregard the centuries of reading that have gone before them, he adds. 
      "Now that the Bible is open for everyone to read, the danger is that people will decouple from the traditional interpretations in their own communities," agrees Burton Visotzky, whose study groups on Genesis inspired a Bill Moyers TV series on the book. Visotzky, a professor at the Jewish Theological Seminary, specializes in midrash, the great Jewish Bible-reading tradition of the first through sixth centuries. Just to look at a page of midrash is to know that you are in the midst of a conversation. Down the center of the page runs a narrow line of Scripture, the margins packed with rabbis' comments on both the text and each other's comments on the text. 
      One of Visotzky's favorite episodes is Abraham's visit to Egypt, a detour from the promised land. Afraid the pharaoh would kill him to steal his gorgeous wife, Sarah, Abraham pretended she was his sister; the pharaoh then took her. "There was a great deal of umbrage among the rabbis at the moral ambiguity of that," says Visotzky, grinning. One rabbi imagined Abraham trying to bring Sarah into Egypt in a crate, so no one would see her beauty, but being foiled at customs. Another imagined him auctioning her off. 
      For centuries, Christians followed the example of their Jewish forebears and vigorously debated the Bible. St. Jerome, who translated the Bible from Hebrew into the Latin Vulgate, even studied with rabbis. "The debate in the Middle Ages between the Dominicans and Franciscans over whether Jesus' disciples owned possessions makes our current controversies look trivial," Hauerwas says. "Their arguments were about what the Bible was about. Our arguments are about what the Bible is, since we don't think it tells us about the way things are." 
      Over time, the Bible increasingly came to be set in stone (at least for Christians). And the past century of complex and often arcane scholarship—intended to open the book up again—has scared people off as often as it has brought them to it. "[People] believe they don't understand the Bible and can't understand it, that it takes scholarly and very brilliant people," Dozier says. 
      As a result, biblical scholarship and biblical belief are pretty far apart. Phyllis Tickle, editor at large of Publishers Weekly and author of God Talk in America, quotes a recent poll showing that while 51 percent of Americans believe Jesus existed (as he almost certainly did), almost as many (47 percent) believe the virgin birth is a factual account (as it almost certainly is not). "The fruits of scholarship," she says dryly, "have not filtered down." 
      Now, though, even some academics are beginning to feel like Humpty-Dumpty: They've taken the Bible apart and don't know how to put it together again. In the seminary, says Borg, students preparing for the clergy "experience a taking apart of their natural literalism, but they're given very little help in the reconstruction of Scripture, in the positive task of saying, What does it mean?" 
      A small narrativist school of academics, battling a long-standing academic suspicion of anything that ventures beyond rigorous textual criticism, is trying out literary and imaginative approaches to Scripture, latching onto the idea that the Bible is a conversation modern readers ought to join. 
      So, if this handful of scholars and pastors is right that the Bible is a conversation, how do we join it? By allowing the Bible to be what it is, and not what we want it to be, argues Sharon Ringe, a professor of the New Testament at Wesley Theological Seminary and an adjunct professor at Latin American Biblical University in Costa Rica. "This is the document of a community struggling—as we struggle—to understand what it means to be in a relationship. We're privileged to read over [the writers'] shoulders as they try to know what life with God is about. Sometimes they get it right, and sometimes they mess up badly, just as we do. But we have to take them seriously enough to grant them their own claims." 
      This radical notion—that the Bible not only isn't factual, it's not always right, either—may be frightening to many religious Christians, but it's what lets readers and participants join this ancient and ongoing conversation. We do not have to buy everything the Bible says. We just have to listen to it and to each other. "It's an extraordinarily difficult thing to actually hear someone else," Visotzky says. "Most of the time we're pretending to be listening when what we're really hearing is confirmation or denial of ourselves. But if we're really listening, there is no 'I,' or if there is an 'I,' there is a 'thou' too, and something alien is worth considering because it's alien. It takes courage, skill, and safety." 
      Such conversations are taking hold. At New York City's Church of St. Luke in the Fields, rector Roger Ferlo leads about 30 people, not all parishioners or even Christians, in a weekly Bible study. Over and over, he urges the participants to bracket their assumptions about what the text says and see it fresh. 
      "The writer has a strategy—an agenda that is often very shrewd and sometimes deceptive—that you're being invited to participate in," Ferlo says. "Being fooled is part of the contract and part of the pleasure. [Poet Samuel Taylor] Coleridge called it willful suspension of disbelief. But if people think the Bible is all about belief, they have a hard time with that. I'm asking them for a willing suspension, not of disbelief, but of belief. That's a hard thing in a religious setting." 
      The group is getting there. "The Bible is like an accordion now to me when I read it," says Marion Lane, a regular participant. "There's an opening up between the words on the page, leaving space for the Holy Ghost and also for human intellect. In my early education, the hand of God was supposed to be writing this down. Now I find there were other emotions, other needs involved, and there's room for me to have my own feelings and understand other people's feelings." 
      The group studied the Book of Job recently, prompted by writer and group member Janet Malcolm. Job is profound poetry framed by an ancient and primitive folktale about a good man whom God allows to be tormented to test his faith. Surrounded by friends who insist he must have done something to deserve his misery, Job proclaims his righteousness and demands an accounting from God. Then God speaks, a voice out of a whirlwind, in majestic poetry that seems, on the surface, utterly irrelevant. "Where were you," God demands of Job, "when I planned the earth? Tell me, if you are so wise.... Were you there...when I wrapped the ocean in clouds and swaddled the sea in shadows?" 
      Stephen Mitchell, the poet and scholar whose translation of Job the group used, makes note of the book's complexity. "You have Job and his friends, God and Job, and then God and the poet in another kind of conversation—and all of these are in play," he says. "If you approach the text as the 'truth,' you can't possibly get to a deeper place of intimacy with it. With only one pole, there's no place to go. 
      "Conversation," he adds, "is one of the deepest and subtlest ways of play and growth and intimacy, and it's a bipolar experience." 
      The group's conversation about the voice from the whirlwind was impassioned. God's refusal to provide answers infuriated some. To others, the passage revealed the God who can be encountered but never grasped. 
      "What if God appeared out of a whirlwind," asks group member John Merz, "and told us, 'You're all fighting over this book, and you think you're going to control me—but where were you when I did all these things?'" 
      Malcolm, who says she is not a religious person, was amazed by the passage. "All those great verses about nature, about rain falling and nobody knowing about it, were very, very powerful," she says. "It told us: This is what happens, in nature and to people." 
      To read the Bible as a conversation is to read it as a question, not an answer, a starting point, not a final declaration. It's not easy; it takes energy to suspend our own assumptions and welcome surprise. 
      But it also offers a way out of the dead end of sound-bite debate into genuine dialogue. "What makes the Bible come alive," says Ferlo, "is acceptance of the possibility of edges, and not a fear of them." To a political arena paralyzed by that fear, maybe the Bible actually does have something to say. 
      Ann Monroe is a Mother Jones contributing writer. Her story on the Christian Coalition's effort to attract African Americans appeared in the May/June issue. 



     
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From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Mon Nov 21 19:21:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] [Fwd: hi nina]
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Hey Vincent "Souls" sounds  wonderful & I wish you all the love & the luck 
in the world world with it my brother, I also have a project called "Stuck 
In The 60's. " We have these projects & work on them for years & never give 
up because they are in are soul we belive in them as creative humanoids  I 
just just got back in town doing an oldie show with Billy Joe Royal & others 
up in Tenn. and the 'era' I tend to believe is bigger than ever. Whether or 
not as Nina suggests as to writing another 'concept' is the "right" approach 
I am  not sure. I tend to believe that as far as the the 60's is Hair is the 
ultimate statement & could work irregardless of of the 'recarnation' , along 
with "Souls" & "Stuck In The 60.s"

Love forever
Robin



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Thank you, Michael!
 That's a VERY interesting article!

Dagmar


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Does the Bible Tell Me So?

How Americans Misread the Good Book 

by Ann Monroe

November/December 1997 Issue

     
      Plus: Faith Healing Hoax. 
      America is in the grip of a biblical frenzy. Books claiming to
contain divine instructions fill 
bookstore shelves (one popular set is actually called the God's Little
Instruction Book series). 
Athletes, who used to just play ball while fundamentalists in the crowd
held up signs pointing 
television viewers to John 3:16, are now shouting biblical slogans
themselves. Boxer Evander 
Holyfield even credited Jesus Christ with his world heavyweight victory.
Forty-two percent of 
Americans believe the Bible is the literal word of God, up almost 5 percent
since 1987. 
      Some of this Bible-thumping gets a bit goofy. A former country music
promoter is building an 
amusement park, God's Wonderful World, featuring a visit to hell complete
with blasts of heated air 
from below. And some of it's scary, because religious fundamentalists are
not just preaching their 
version of biblical values, they're beating the rest of the country over
the head with them. Ending 
welfare, praying in public schools, teaching creationism, eliminating
"special treatment" for gays?
the whole gamut of politically conservative rallying cries comes wrapped in
a biblical halo: It's God's 
will, and here's the big black book to prove it. 
      Mainstream religious folk have tried to fight back. Organizations
such as the National Council of 
Churches and the National Council of Jewish Women attack conservative
policies. But whatever the 
political success of these organizations (lately, it's been depressingly
low), on the biblical front 
they've lost the battle. Americans may love the Bible or loathe it. But for
the most part, they read it the 
same way (when they read it at all): as the manifesto of a God who has a
lot of laws and a definite 
inclination to punish those who don't follow them. 
      Even nonbelievers see it that way. Take New Yorker John Hart, who
joined a church Bible study 
in part to understand the enemy. "One of the big problems is this sense of
moral certitude," he says. 
"There is a God, and God makes rules, and this is what happens when the
rules don't get obeyed." 
      Fundamentalists argue smugly that liberals are losers when it comes
to the Bible because 
they're just plain wrong. But there's an eclectic mix of scholars and
writers who don't buy that 
explanation. Liberals have lost the biblical battle, these scholars say,
because, even while they 
reject conservative interpretations of the Bible, they've been unable to
shake free of conservative 
assumptions about the Bible. 
      Americans?and not just conservatives?are by nature fundamentalists,
says Bruce Bawer, a 
poet, literary critic, and author of the forthcoming book Stealing Jesus:
How Fundamentalism 
Betrays Christianity. "Anything that's not useful is without meaning," he
says. "The whole country 
was settled by people who had to be very pragmatic. When we read the Bible,
if a statement has a 
noun and a verb, we want to believe it's literally true and use it in some
way." 
      That makes the Bible a prickly document. Most of the stories in the
Bible?God's creation of the 
world in six days, Moses' bringing the Israelites out of Egypt by parting
the Red Sea, and of course 
all of Jesus' miracles?are, to a scientific worldview, highly improbable.
And a lot of what God is 
described as doing, from demanding that Abraham sacrifice his only son to
striking a pair of early 
Christians dead because they wanted to hang on to some of their own
property, seems downright 
nasty. 
      With so much in the Bible to be disliked or discounted, there seems
to be little left for liberals to 
do but engage in the same kind of moral prescriptiveness the religious
right has made so 
unattractive. "Fundamentalists buy into truth as factuality, but Christian
liberals have also tended to 
accept the idea that factuality and truthfulness are the same," says author
and biblical scholar 
Marcus Borg. "The mainline Protestant tendency is to ask what we can pluck
from the fire, and 
extract these rather banal ethical teachings." 
      The result is a war of "proof-texts." Conservatives "prove" they're
right by quoting one biblical 
passage, and liberals "prove" they're not by quoting another back at them.
Take welfare. "Anyone 
unwilling to work should not eat," thunders the apostle Paul in 2
Thessalonians 3:10. "Give to 
everyone who begs from you," says Jesus in Matthew 5:42. 
      And in a war of competing texts, religious conservatives will always
be able to make the clearer, 
and louder, case. Seeking refuge from modern science and a contemporary
moral view that allows 
for abortion, premarital sex, and homosexuality, they find in the Bible
facts and rules that give them 
comfort. Religious liberals have a much more difficult time of it. Faced
with an ancient text like the 
Bible, they feel stuck with either taking it literally and hating it, or
wrestling some usefulness out of it 
by contextualization and extrapolation. 
      On the vexed subject of homosexuality, for example, conservatives
have it easy: Every sentence 
on the subject in the Bible (all four or five of them) disapproves. On the
other hand, seminary 
professor William Countryman makes a convincing?and thoroughly
biblical?case that the 
teachings of Jesus make homosexuality an irrelevant issue. But it takes him
a whole book, Dirt, 
Greed, and Sex, to do it. In the sound-bite competition that is today's
political debate, it's not too hard 
to figure out who wins. 
      In the end, "proof-texting" says a lot more about us than it does
about the Bible. "We get our 
behavioral codes from our communities," says Countryman, and then we go to
the Bible to prove 
them. Used that way, the Bible is as malleable as those inkblots in a
Rorschach test. {publish-page-
break} 
     There is another way to read the bible, however, a way that is both
ancient and modern, a way 
that has nothing to do with facts, rules, and proof-texting. It's the way
of story and conversation, of 
imagination and engagement. Mostly lost in American mainline churches, it
is the way of reading 
that has inspired many of the great progressive social movements. When
Martin Luther King Jr. said 
he had been to the mountain, he was not using the Bible to prove that
segregation was wrong. He 
was appropriating its story. As God, through Moses, had led his people out
of captivity and taken 
Moses onto the mountain to show him the promised land they were to enter,
so King, too, had been 
shown the promised land into which his followers were being led. 
      "When I was a child," says Verna Dozier, a popular and respected
Bible instructor in Washington, 
D.C., "the only two books we had were the Bible and Mother Goose, and my
mother would read 
them both to us. That was my blessing. I learned the Bible as a story, and
I never had it chopped up 
into little verses until I went to school." 
      When the integrity of biblical stories is kept intact, rather than
being chopped up into sound bites 
as both evangelizers and mainstream preachers tend to do, it's easier to
grasp that biblical truth is 
much less about facts than about relationships?both within the text and
between the reader and the 
Scripture. "If I can get people to think of themselves as being in a
relationship with Scripture," says 
Roger Ferlo, a former Yale English professor who is now an Episcopal priest
and author of Opening 
the Bible, "then there is a chance they can recognize a relationship with
God when they meet one." 
      To read this way is to follow the example of the Bible, which is
itself a conversation. After all, it's 
not a single book, with a single point of view. It's a collection of books
(24 to 73 of them, depending 
on which version?Jewish, Protestant, or Roman Catholic?you're reading),
written and rewritten 
over a thousand-year period by a wildly diverse collection of writers.
Modern biblical scholars have 
traced multiple layers of authorship within the Good Book as writer after
writer reshaped the material 
at hand to reflect new perspectives. 
      A case in point is the story in 1 Samuel of the beginning of Israel's
monarchy. The earliest stories 
of the rise of the monarchy were written as tributes to David, Israel's
great king. But after David, the 
monarchy fell on evil days, and later writers reshaped those stories to
reflect their misgivings and 
apprehensions. The result is an almost schizophrenic God who anoints a king
in one breath and, in 
the next, rails against the Israelites for wanting one. 
      The biggest such reinterpretation came when Christian writers laid
claim to the Hebrew 
Scriptures. Known to the Jewish community as Tanakh, an acronym for the
Hebrew names of the 
Scriptures' three sections, these writings became, in the Christian Bible,
simply an Old Testament, or 
precursor, to the Christian writers' New Testament. The early Christians
didn't rewrite the Hebrew 
Scriptures, but they reimagined them, finding them filled with allusions to
Christ?predictions that 
would have seemed as bizarre to those books' original authors as they do to
modern Jews. 
      But biblical writers do more than reinterpret each other; they also
just plain argue with each 
other. The Book of Job is a scathing attack on the simplistic
God-rewards-the-righteous theology of 
much of Psalms and Proverbs; at one point, in fact, Job quotes Psalm 8,
turning it on its head in 
bitter parody. The Bible, in other words, is an open book, not a closed
system. 
      Such an approach to the bible does not mean, however, that
contemporary readers can interpret 
the Bible any old way they like. "The word 'interpretation' gives the wrong
impression," argues 
Stanley Hauerwas, author of Unleashing the Scripture: Freeing the Bible
>From Captivity to America. 
Fundamentalists, who pride themselves on going straight to the source,
wrongly disregard the 
centuries of reading that have gone before them, he adds. 
      "Now that the Bible is open for everyone to read, the danger is that
people will decouple from the 
traditional interpretations in their own communities," agrees Burton
Visotzky, whose study groups on 
Genesis inspired a Bill Moyers TV series on the book. Visotzky, a professor
at the Jewish 
Theological Seminary, specializes in midrash, the great Jewish
Bible-reading tradition of the first 
through sixth centuries. Just to look at a page of midrash is to know that
you are in the midst of a 
conversation. Down the center of the page runs a narrow line of Scripture,
the margins packed with 
rabbis' comments on both the text and each other's comments on the text. 
      One of Visotzky's favorite episodes is Abraham's visit to Egypt, a
detour from the promised land. 
Afraid the pharaoh would kill him to steal his gorgeous wife, Sarah,
Abraham pretended she was his 
sister; the pharaoh then took her. "There was a great deal of umbrage among
the rabbis at the moral 
ambiguity of that," says Visotzky, grinning. One rabbi imagined Abraham
trying to bring Sarah into 
Egypt in a crate, so no one would see her beauty, but being foiled at
customs. Another imagined him 
auctioning her off. 
      For centuries, Christians followed the example of their Jewish
forebears and vigorously debated 
the Bible. St. Jerome, who translated the Bible from Hebrew into the Latin
Vulgate, even studied with 
rabbis. "The debate in the Middle Ages between the Dominicans and
Franciscans over whether 
Jesus' disciples owned possessions makes our current controversies look
trivial," Hauerwas says. 
"Their arguments were about what the Bible was about. Our arguments are
about what the Bible is, 
since we don't think it tells us about the way things are." 
      Over time, the Bible increasingly came to be set in stone (at least
for Christians). And the past 
century of complex and often arcane scholarship?intended to open the book
up again?has scared 
people off as often as it has brought them to it. "[People] believe they
don't understand the Bible and 
can't understand it, that it takes scholarly and very brilliant people,"
Dozier says. 
      As a result, biblical scholarship and biblical belief are pretty far
apart. Phyllis Tickle, editor at 
large of Publishers Weekly and author of God Talk in America, quotes a
recent poll showing that 
while 51 percent of Americans believe Jesus existed (as he almost certainly
did), almost as many 
(47 percent) believe the virgin birth is a factual account (as it almost
certainly is not). "The fruits of 
scholarship," she says dryly, "have not filtered down." 
      Now, though, even some academics are beginning to feel like
Humpty-Dumpty: They've taken 
the Bible apart and don't know how to put it together again. In the
seminary, says Borg, students 
preparing for the clergy "experience a taking apart of their natural
literalism, but they're given very 
little help in the reconstruction of Scripture, in the positive task of
saying, What does it mean?" 
      A small narrativist school of academics, battling a long-standing
academic suspicion of anything 
that ventures beyond rigorous textual criticism, is trying out literary and
imaginative approaches to 
Scripture, latching onto the idea that the Bible is a conversation modern
readers ought to join. 
      So, if this handful of scholars and pastors is right that the Bible
is a conversation, how do we join 
it? By allowing the Bible to be what it is, and not what we want it to be,
argues Sharon Ringe, a 
professor of the New Testament at Wesley Theological Seminary and an
adjunct professor at Latin 
American Biblical University in Costa Rica. "This is the document of a
community struggling?as we 
struggle?to understand what it means to be in a relationship. We're
privileged to read over [the 
writers'] shoulders as they try to know what life with God is about.
Sometimes they get it right, and 
sometimes they mess up badly, just as we do. But we have to take them
seriously enough to grant 
them their own claims." 
      This radical notion?that the Bible not only isn't factual, it's not
always right, either?may be 
frightening to many religious Christians, but it's what lets readers and
participants join this ancient 
and ongoing conversation. We do not have to buy everything the Bible says.
We just have to listen 
to it and to each other. "It's an extraordinarily difficult thing to
actually hear someone else," Visotzky 
says. "Most of the time we're pretending to be listening when what we're
really hearing is 
confirmation or denial of ourselves. But if we're really listening, there
is no 'I,' or if there is an 'I,' there 
is a 'thou' too, and something alien is worth considering because it's
alien. It takes courage, skill, 
and safety." 
      Such conversations are taking hold. At New York City's Church of St.
Luke in the Fields, rector 
Roger Ferlo leads about 30 people, not all parishioners or even Christians,
in a weekly Bible study. 
Over and over, he urges the participants to bracket their assumptions about
what the text says and 
see it fresh. 
      "The writer has a strategy?an agenda that is often very shrewd and
sometimes deceptive?that 
you're being invited to participate in," Ferlo says. "Being fooled is part
of the contract and part of the 
pleasure. [Poet Samuel Taylor] Coleridge called it willful suspension of
disbelief. But if people think 
the Bible is all about belief, they have a hard time with that. I'm asking
them for a willing suspension, 
not of disbelief, but of belief. That's a hard thing in a religious
setting." 
      The group is getting there. "The Bible is like an accordion now to me
when I read it," says Marion 
Lane, a regular participant. "There's an opening up between the words on
the page, leaving space 
for the Holy Ghost and also for human intellect. In my early education, the
hand of God was 
supposed to be writing this down. Now I find there were other emotions,
other needs involved, and 
there's room for me to have my own feelings and understand other people's
feelings." 
      The group studied the Book of Job recently, prompted by writer and
group member Janet 
Malcolm. Job is profound poetry framed by an ancient and primitive folktale
about a good man 
whom God allows to be tormented to test his faith. Surrounded by friends
who insist he must have 
done something to deserve his misery, Job proclaims his righteousness and
demands an 
accounting from God. Then God speaks, a voice out of a whirlwind, in
majestic poetry that seems, on 
the surface, utterly irrelevant. "Where were you," God demands of Job,
"when I planned the earth? 
Tell me, if you are so wise.... Were you there...when I wrapped the ocean
in clouds and swaddled 
the sea in shadows?" 
      Stephen Mitchell, the poet and scholar whose translation of Job the
group used, makes note of 
the book's complexity. "You have Job and his friends, God and Job, and then
God and the poet in 
another kind of conversation?and all of these are in play," he says. "If
you approach the text as the 
'truth,' you can't possibly get to a deeper place of intimacy with it. With
only one pole, there's no 
place to go. 
      "Conversation," he adds, "is one of the deepest and subtlest ways of
play and growth and 
intimacy, and it's a bipolar experience." 
      The group's conversation about the voice from the whirlwind was
impassioned. God's refusal to 
provide answers infuriated some. To others, the passage revealed the God
who can be 
encountered but never grasped. 
      "What if God appeared out of a whirlwind," asks group member John
Merz, "and told us, 'You're 
all fighting over this book, and you think you're going to control me?but
where were you when I did 
all these things?'" 
      Malcolm, who says she is not a religious person, was amazed by the
passage. "All those great 
verses about nature, about rain falling and nobody knowing about it, were
very, very powerful," she 
says. "It told us: This is what happens, in nature and to people." 
      To read the Bible as a conversation is to read it as a question, not
an answer, a starting point, not 
a final declaration. It's not easy; it takes energy to suspend our own
assumptions and welcome 
surprise. 
      But it also offers a way out of the dead end of sound-bite debate
into genuine dialogue. "What 
makes the Bible come alive," says Ferlo, "is acceptance of the possibility
of edges, and not a fear of 
them." To a political arena paralyzed by that fear, maybe the Bible
actually does have something to 
say. 
      Ann Monroe is a Mother Jones contributing writer. Her story on the
Christian Coalition's effort to 
attract African Americans appeared in the May/June issue. 



     
@1997 The Foundation for National Progress

Read the article online:

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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 22 21:06:05 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Tue Nov 22 21:15:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hairy slides
Message-ID: <20051123050605.44770.qmail@web54211.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Nina,
  How close are you to scanning the slides I sent. Just wondering cause I was thinking about printing a couple when you are finished with them.. thanks, JIM

		
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 23 05:57:54 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Wed Nov 23 06:07:39 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair goodies
Message-ID: <BAY104-F3311DED844AC05A29AF18CB2550@phx.gbl>

Hi all -

Just a quick note to let you all know that Michael has re-opened the 
boutique at his web site. For years people have been writing, asking where 
they can get the Hair poster, but it has not been in production (barring a 
few illegal and poor quality reproductions) since the show closed in 1972. 
Now, for the first time since the original run of Hair you can get exact, 
high quality reproductions of the original poster and window card, along 
with Hair Tee shirts, caps, and other goodies. Here is a direct link, but 
you can always get there from the front page of Michael's web site.

http://www.michaelbutler.com/shop.html

Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From michael at intrafi.com  Wed Nov 23 10:34:03 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Wed Nov 23 10:44:22 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Bush's Spin Machine
Message-ID: <20051123183403.7D4BBB80A0@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
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Bush's Spin Machine
http://www.alternet.org/story/28639

According to this administration's lame attempt at intimidation, noting that the Iraq war is a disaster is the same as spitting on our soldiers.
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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Wed Nov 23 14:23:36 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (peacefreak@metrocast.net)
Date: Wed Nov 23 14:33:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR Freaks,
	Leo sent you a card from afreegreetingcard.com
Message-ID: <200511232223.jANMNa3P027599@mail.webby.com>

To HAIR Freaks!

Leo sent a card from afreegreetingcard.com on 11/23/2005 17:23 PM.


We'll save the card for  14 days.

Please pick it up before 14 days. After that time the card will be deleted from our servers.


You can pick up the card by going to 

afreegreetingcard.com
http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/pickup.shtml


Your ticket number is:  112317233627597


Also, you can go to your card by clicking on the following link:

http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/pickup.shtml?112317233627597

If the above link does not work, simply copy the URL and paste it into your browser's address field.

If you use AOL mail: <a href="http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/pickup.shtml?112317233627597">click here</a>.

By using afreegreetingcard.com, you agree to our site's terms and conditions which can be found on this page: http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/termsandconditions.shtml

From michael at michaelbutler.com  Wed Nov 23 18:02:20 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Wed Nov 23 18:16:00 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] THANKS
Message-ID: <BFAA5F2C.260E0%michael@michaelbutler.com>

We have much to be thankful for
I certainly am blessed with a wonderful life
Nothing can compare with the delight I have
Due to your friendship
Thank you so much
Peace and Love
Michael

From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Wed Nov 23 19:54:40 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (peacefreak@metrocast.net)
Date: Wed Nov 23 20:04:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAIR Freaks, Leo sent you a card from afreegreetingcard.com
Message-ID: <24902289.1132804480269.JavaMail.root@vms074.mailsrvcs.net>

Sweet ! Thanks for Giving ! 
     With Love & Blessings , 
          Bruce

To HAIR Freaks!

Leo sent a card from afreegreetingcard.com on 11/23/2005 17:23 PM.


We'll save the card for  14 days.

Please pick it up before 14 days. After that time the card will be deleted 
from our servers.


You can pick up the card by going to 

afreegreetingcard.com
http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/pickup.shtml


Your ticket number is:  112317233627597


Also, you can go to your card by clicking on the following link:

http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/pickup.shtml?112317233627597

If the above link does not work, simply copy the URL and paste it into your 
browser's address field.

If you use AOL mail: <a href="http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/
pickup.shtml?112317233627597">click here</a>.

By using afreegreetingcard.com, you agree to our site's terms and conditions 
which can be found on this page: http://www2.afreegreetingcard.com/
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From bev at beverlybremers.com  Wed Nov 23 20:10:58 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Wed Nov 23 20:20:43 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] THANKS
Message-ID: <20051124041058.A072F9E77D@ws6-2.us4.outblaze.com>

Amen to that! Best wishes to all on this wonderful holiday. Thank you for all the wonderful Thanksgiving wishes and I hope the coming year will bring lots to be thankful for. We are most fortunate to have one another as brothers and sisters and to have shared such glorious times together, both on stage and off.

Peace.
Beverly


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To: "SPECIAL from Michael Butler" <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] THANKS
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:02:20 -0800

> 
> We have much to be thankful for
> I certainly am blessed with a wonderful life
> Nothing can compare with the delight I have
> Due to your friendship
> Thank you so much
> Peace and Love
> Michael
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From dauber at banana-and-louie.org  Wed Nov 23 21:13:03 2005
From: dauber at banana-and-louie.org (Sean Courtney)
Date: Wed Nov 23 21:23:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Just saw the Rent movie...
Message-ID: <3478c68cc1.738be872@mail.banana-and-louie.org>

Just to give you my background and knowledge (well...LACK of knowledge!) of
Rent...

- I first heard of it in 1996 when I read a pretty bad review of the Chicago
production of Hair that Cal State/Fullerton put on that year. (That was the
first production of Hair that I ever saw, and trust me, it was absolutely
WONDERFUL.) I posted about it on Tracy Harris's message board, and someone
wrote something along the lines of "If that guy thinks Hair is so outdated
[the reviewer complained several times of the dated feel of Hair -- in fact,
you can actually read the article in Nina's archive], why doesn't he shut up
and go see Rent?"

- And when I learned more about Rent, I was told there were a lot of Hair
parallels; some folks went so far as to say it was a Hair rip-off.

- However, I never actually got to see the show; actually, I never really
had the desire to. My wife saw the original Broadway production and said you
gotta see it, but only if Anthony Rapp is playing Mark. After Lisa finally
did see a production of Hair, she says she could definitely tell that there
was some Hair influence.

So...when they announced the Rent movie was going to be made, and with
pretty much everybody from the original Broadway cast reprising their roles,
Lisa was pretty gung ho about going to see it and she asked that I see it
with her.

Well...just got back a while ago...let me tell you...this is a MUST-SEE.
Wow....very profound...very powerful...

There were obviously some fans in the crowd, applauding at certain names
during the opening credits, applauding loudly when Jonathan Larson's name
comes on the screen....people singing along with the songs (but let me just
say...I really hope I never hear "Seasons Of Love" ever again -- I'm so
bloody SICK of it!)....crying during the emotional scenes...

Were there some Hair things? A few...not a whole heck of a lot, though...but
wow...this was one damn good flick....

I can say no more....

--
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From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 23 23:34:19 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Wed Nov 23 23:43:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Just saw the Rent movie...
In-Reply-To: <3478c68cc1.738be872@mail.banana-and-louie.org>
Message-ID: <20051124073419.94623.qmail@web54214.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Dauber.. 
   
  I also just saw it.. My daughter took me tonight inbetween me makeing my pies, stuffing, cranberry sauce and all the other good stuff.. 
   
  Anyway,, My take on the movie was this.. 
   
  I thought it was very well done.. I felt that unlike the Motion Picture, HAIR. Rent stuck to the original script.. some of the dialog that is sung on stage was spoken on screen, but it worked out well.. Like the play, I fell in love with both Mimi and Angel and both had me in tears more than once.. (don't want to give anything away.) There were only three things in the screen version that I didn't like.. 1, Roger was alot meaner to Mimi on screen then he was on stage.. I liked the stage version of him better.. 2, The whole wedding type scene.. I realize it was built up around that song, but it seemed to be the only reason it was in there.. (the stage version was pretty much just sung.) the best part about that scene was the line delivered by the mother of the bride imediatly following the action. And lastly and I guess I can not really speak of it as it will give away the ending.. but lets just say, the ending.. Though the same, it was better acted on stage.. But.. I am bei
 ng very
 critical.. The movie was great.. I would like to see it again.. and will definetly buy it when it comes out on DVD. The theatre I went to was also packed.. (We had to sit in the very front row.. and there were people standing in the back. on the way out there was a huge line for the next showing.. so I bet that sold out as well.) The soundtrack is great.. I own both on CD, and the movie soundtrack has one extra track, (ending credit's song which, maybe it's just that I am not used to it, but it's not the same calibur as the rest of the score. but the production quality on the Movie cast recording is better than the Broadway cast recording.. though I saw both cast sing live on the Today show, and the Broadway cast I felt sang better than the movie cast.. and I know a lot of them are the same.. but those were my observations.. 
   
  I agree a must see movie.. very well done.. and if you haven't seen it, stage or screen, don't taint it by thinking of it as the second coming of Hair.. If you see Hairyisms.. cool.. but veiw it with fresh eyes.. and bring a hanky.. there are some strong visual moments..
   
  Peace Love and Light.. and happy Turkey Day my friends.. JIMMY P.
  

Sean Courtney <dauber@banana-and-louie.org> wrote:
  Just to give you my background and knowledge (well...LACK of knowledge!) of
Rent...

- I first heard of it in 1996 when I read a pretty bad review of the Chicago
production of Hair that Cal State/Fullerton put on that year. (That was the
first production of Hair that I ever saw, and trust me, it was absolutely
WONDERFUL.) I posted about it on Tracy Harris's message board, and someone
wrote something along the lines of "If that guy thinks Hair is so outdated
[the reviewer complained several times of the dated feel of Hair -- in fact,
you can actually read the article in Nina's archive], why doesn't he shut up
and go see Rent?"

- And when I learned more about Rent, I was told there were a lot of Hair
parallels; some folks went so far as to say it was a Hair rip-off.

- However, I never actually got to see the show; actually, I never really
had the desire to. My wife saw the original Broadway production and said you
gotta see it, but only if Anthony Rapp is playing Mark. After Lisa finally
did see a production of Hair, she says she could definitely tell that there
was some Hair influence.

So...when they announced the Rent movie was going to be made, and with
pretty much everybody from the original Broadway cast reprising their roles,
Lisa was pretty gung ho about going to see it and she asked that I see it
with her.

Well...just got back a while ago...let me tell you...this is a MUST-SEE.
Wow....very profound...very powerful...

There were obviously some fans in the crowd, applauding at certain names
during the opening credits, applauding loudly when Jonathan Larson's name
comes on the screen....people singing along with the songs (but let me just
say...I really hope I never hear "Seasons Of Love" ever again -- I'm so
bloody SICK of it!)....crying during the emotional scenes...

Were there some Hair things? A few...not a whole heck of a lot, though...but
wow...this was one damn good flick....

I can say no more....

--
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From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Thu Nov 24 06:55:54 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] happy thanksgiving tribe and political tribe
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From: ace at aceross.com (Sherwin)
Date: Thu Nov 24 10:11:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Thoughts and Prayers on Thanksgiving Day
Message-ID: <20051124180143.189D43AE603@lax-gw06.mroute.net>

 

 

 
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Thu Nov 24 11:24:06 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Thu Nov 24 11:31:26 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair goodies
Message-ID: <380-220051142419246796@M2W114.mail2web.com>

Good News!

 thanks
 I have bookmarked it already and shall spread the word -

Happy Thanksgiving.

Did you see the "Survival Song" at American Greetings?? Very funny

Hope this link works:

http://www.msn.americangreetings.com/display.pd?bfrom=1&prodnum=3081495&path
=25200


P&L
 Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Little Birdie lbirdie@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:57:54 +0000
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Hair goodies


Hi all -

Just a quick note to let you all know that Michael has re-opened the 
boutique at his web site. For years people have been writing, asking where 
they can get the Hair poster, but it has not been in production (barring a 
few illegal and poor quality reproductions) since the show closed in 1972. 
Now, for the first time since the original run of Hair you can get exact, 
high quality reproductions of the original poster and window card, along 
with Hair Tee shirts, caps, and other goodies. Here is a direct link, but 
you can always get there from the front page of Michael's web site.

http://www.michaelbutler.com/shop.html

Love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


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From michael at intrafi.com  Thu Nov 24 20:22:02 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Thu Nov 24 20:32:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: Tax Cuts are a Real Turkey for the Economy
Message-ID: <20051125042202.99868B8079@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



-------------------------------------
Tax Cuts are a Real Turkey for the Economy
http://www.alternet.org/story/28626

President Bush's beloved tax cuts have neither grown the economy nor created new jobs. So why should we extend them?
-------------------------------------

From Hawaiipolo at cs.com  Thu Nov 24 14:29:49 2005
From: Hawaiipolo at cs.com (Hawaiipolo@cs.com)
Date: Thu Nov 24 20:37:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] (no subject)
Message-ID: <E1EfVAM-0003ud-T5@smtpauth02.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

HAPPY TAHNKSGIVING AND ALOHA AMIGOS....MD


GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)


Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and
Mouthy comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write
Something so very eloquent ..and so very
Appropriate .

A wonderful Message by George Carlin:

The paradox of our time in history is that we have
Taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider
Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more,
But have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have
Bigger houses and smaller families, more
Conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees
But less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment,
More experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but
Less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too
Recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get
Too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read
Too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our
Values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate
Too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life.
We've added years to life not life to years. We've
Been all the way to the moon and back, but have
Trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor.
We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've
Done larger things, but not better things.

We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul.
We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We
Write more, but learn less. We plan more, but
Accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to
Wait. We build more computers to hold more
Information, to produce more copies than ever, but
We communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow
Digestion, big men and small character, steep
Profits and shallow relationships. These are the
Days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier
Houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick
Trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one
Night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do
Everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a
Time when there is much in the showroom window and
Nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can
Bring this letter to you, and a time when you can
Choose either to share this insight, or to just hit
Delete.

Remember, spend some time with your loved ones,
Because they are not going to be around forever.

Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to
You in awe, because that little person soon will
Grow up and leave your side.

Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you,
Because that is the only treasure you can give with
Your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

Remember, to say, "I love you" to your partner and
Your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and
An embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep
Inside of you.

Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for
Someday that person will not be there again.

Give time to love, give time to speak,! And give time
To share the precious thoughts in your mind.

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we
Take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

If you don't send this to at least 8 people....

Who cares?

George Carlin

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From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 24 20:04:57 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Thu Nov 24 21:10:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Thanksgiving and RENT
In-Reply-To: <200511242000.jAOK0ECS015775@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20051125040458.82147.qmail@web34514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A Happy Thanksgiving to all:)

And I can't wait to see the movie of RENT...
especially after your rave reviews--- (In the article
about it in the Chicago Tribune there were favorable
comparisons of HAIR and RENT)

- Amy

"in time of lilacs who proclaim/ the aim of waking is to dream" - e.e. cummings

"Life is around you and in you . . . Let the sunshine in!" - HAIR (the musical)


	
		
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Thu Nov 24 22:12:26 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Thu Nov 24 22:22:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Thanks Leo... :-) HAIR Freaks,
	Leo sent you a card from afreegreetingcard.com
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV18BB5570860D00747A3C24AB570@phx.gbl>

and Thanks again

-----Original Message-----
From: peacefreak@metrocast.net
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From swiggard at comcast.net  Fri Nov 25 06:37:36 2005
From: swiggard at comcast.net (William Swiggard)
Date: Fri Nov 25 06:49:51 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MUST READ: From Vietnam to Iraq: How to stop the war -
 Stephen Bergman - Boston Globe Op-Ed
Message-ID: <438721B0.1030300@comcast.net>

 From Vietnam to Iraq: How to stop the war

By Stephen Bergman  |  November 25, 2005

WITH INCREASING frequency, writers are likening the Iraq war to the war 
in Vietnam. The latest, Melvin Laird, was secretary of defense during 
the Nixon administration. Perhaps it is time to look at how we stopped 
the Vietnam War, and see if the same methods might work now, or if not, 
why not.

In those years the Nixon administration realized that it could not win, 
and set out to end it. The killing would go on for years, but a divided 
country was turning against the mission. There were three major reasons:

The student resistance movement and the draft. The fact that every male 
student was eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam created great 
anxiety and, with time, organized resistance to the war. One of the 
first nonviolent protests was in 1967 by students at the University of 
Wisconsin who prevented Dow Chemical, makers of napalm, from job 
recruiting. The university called in the police. All hell broke loose, 
with injuries on both sides. The brutality solidified the resistance; 
the students there and elsewhere went out on strike. By Kent State in 
1970 there were countless acts of nonviolent resistance, violent police 
actions, and redoubled resistance. Marches on Washington, hundreds of 
thousands strong. Many returning soldiers joined in, as did families and 
loved ones of students and soldiers alike.

The media. TV newscasts at that time showed an incontrovertible truth: 
Real bleeding bodies were brought into everyone's living room. Screams 
of the wounded were heard. Dead bodies were seen sprawled in the 
graceless horror of death. Both American and Vietnamese casualties were 
shown. There was a nightly tally of the dead and wounded. Coffins draped 
with flags were were given air time. When Walter Cronkite stated that we 
couldn't ''win" this war, something in the mainstream trembled, and 
shifted. TV and print news, not owned by mega-corporations, was 
independent and brave. The Pentagon Papers were published despite 
obvious legal risk. Reporters, both TV and press, like Michael Herr and 
Sy Hersh, would never ''embed" with the military. Accept censorship? 
They went out on their own.

Leaders. Both within and outside of Congress there were great leaders 
who spoke to the link between racism and classism and the obscene images 
on the TV and in the papers. Congressional leaders stood up -- McCarthy, 
Fulbright, Ted Kennedy, McGovern among many -- and, in his most 
impassioned moment, a young sailor named John Kerry, back from Vietnam, 
asked a Senate committee, ''How do you tell someone that he's the last 
man to die for a mistake?"

What is the message in this, from Vietnam to Iraq?

The draft. Introduce legislation to institute the draft. At once, no 
exceptions, not even gender. Mothers, fathers, and their children would 
be in the streets. There might be a violent response. The resistance to 
the war would focus. Many returning soldiers and their families and 
loved ones would join in.

The media. Corporate controlled, it is probably beyond repair. Some of 
the alternative and foreign media are often more reliable truth-tellers. 
But there is one question for the TV commanders to which we must demand 
an answer: Why are you not showing the bloody bodies of the wounded and 
dead Americans and Iraqis?

Leaders. The only leader of national note is a dead soldier's mother, 
Cindy Sheehan. The Congress, with few exceptions -- Maxine Waters, 
Barbara Lee, Russ Feingold, and now John Murtha -- is as quiet as 500 
invertebrates. In this silence is opportunity. Most Americans see Iraq 
as a mistake. If a leader of some stature stands up and asks, again, 
''How do you ask someone to be the last person to die for a mistake?" 
there will be an audible sigh of national relief. A simmering movement 
will ignite. This requires courage, probably from someone outside of 
Congress -- Wes Clark or John Edwards come to mind. It may seem risky to 
take that stance, but that person might well be elected president in 2008.

Stopping a war is difficult, especially given the hubris, spin, and 
tragic incompetence of the Bush-Cheney administration. Yet even 
Kissinger and Nixon were able to manage it, however clumsily and with a 
great cost of lives on both sides. We Americans can stop it in time to 
save many thousands of wounded and dead. Now.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/11/25/from_vietnam_to_iraq_how_to_stop_the_war/
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From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 25 12:54:29 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Fri Nov 25 13:04:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On Relations
	With Alien "Et" Civilizations
In-Reply-To: <438721B0.1030300@comcast.net>
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Jonathon Johnson (peace2b@sbcglobal.net) has sent you a news article. 

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From olhippie at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Nov 26 00:06:29 2005
From: olhippie at tampabay.rr.com (Robin McNamara)
Date: Sat Nov 26 00:16:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
Message-ID: <002901c5f260$4eb5d9d0$97bc2041@CowBox>

Micheal 

May you have the best birthday ever !

Love forever
Robin






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From venuetheatre at juno.com  Sat Nov 26 04:17:33 2005
From: venuetheatre at juno.com (venuetheatre@juno.com)
Date: Sat Nov 26 04:27:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
Message-ID: <20051126121742.8202783FB6@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

Michael

You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view your card please click on the following link:

http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461

OR

Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.

OR

Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick Up' from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes provided.

From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Nov 26 04:47:02 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Nov 26 04:56:45 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
References: <002901c5f260$4eb5d9d0$97bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <00b101c5f287$80360da0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

is it michaels birthday again
it seems like it was just michaels birthday
michael butler or michael arian? ( eg from lamama )
anyone whichever the best birthday and best wishes
gambai
cine dane
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robin McNamara 
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:06 AM
  Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"


  Micheal 

  May you have the best birthday ever !

  Love forever
  Robin






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From swiggard at comcast.net  Sat Nov 26 05:49:59 2005
From: swiggard at comcast.net (William Swiggard)
Date: Sat Nov 26 06:02:05 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
Message-ID: <43886807.8040505@comcast.net>

Dearest Michael -

Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures, 
loving friends and family, and abundant good health!

Love always -
Bill
From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 26 06:56:39 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Sat Nov 26 07:06:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
In-Reply-To: <43886807.8040505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F259A7C62ECCEC3E1A8C0E5B2560@phx.gbl>

Dear Michael,

Wishing you the happiest of birthdays, and a new year filled with love and 
laughter.
Much love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html


From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Nov 26 06:56:52 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Nov 26 07:06:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
References: <43886807.8040505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c5f299$a44e9a60$f1476c42@hotprojects>

IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
IM FLIPPED
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
ASPIRE TO
WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL

R
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!


> Dearest Michael -
> 
> Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures, 
> loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> 
> Love always -
> Bill
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From lbirdie at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 26 07:04:07 2005
From: lbirdie at hotmail.com (Little Birdie)
Date: Sat Nov 26 07:13:46 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
In-Reply-To: <001c01c5f299$a44e9a60$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F32F4A7BE7444C61270D26FB2560@phx.gbl>

It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael 
Butler's.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




>From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
>
>IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
>IM FLIPPED
>HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
>A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
>AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
>YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
>ASPIRE TO
>WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
>
>R
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
>To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
>Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
>
>
> > Dearest Michael -
> >
> > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> >
> > Love always -
> > Bill
> > _______________________________________________
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Nov 26 07:06:12 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Nov 26 07:15:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
References: <BAY104-F32F4A7BE7444C61270D26FB2560@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000601c5f29a$f0eb8760$f1476c42@hotprojects>

ALL RIGHT
WELL THEN ALL LOVE TO MICHAEL BUTLER
AND MORE LOVE TO MICHAEL ARIAN
A HUNDRED MORE CINE DANE
TO HIM TOO

WHAT A COINCIDENCE
HOW WONDERFUL
ALL BLESSINGS TO BOTH OF THEM THEN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!


> It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael 
> Butler's.
> Nina
> 
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
> >
> >IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
> >IM FLIPPED
> >HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
> >A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
> >AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
> >YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
> >ASPIRE TO
> >WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
> >
> >R
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
> >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
> >Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> >
> >
> > > Dearest Michael -
> > >
> > > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> > >
> > > Love always -
> > > Bill
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From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 26 07:28:36 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Sat Nov 26 07:38:18 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!
In-Reply-To: <002901c5f260$4eb5d9d0$97bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <20051126152836.27072.qmail@web52713.mail.yahoo.com>

Happy Birthday Michael! May you have many, many more!
   
  Love ~ Jonathon


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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Nov 26 09:45:47 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Nov 26 09:55:27 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
In-Reply-To: <002901c5f260$4eb5d9d0$97bc2041@CowBox>
Message-ID: <BFADDF4B.26236%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Robin,
Thanks
Michael
> Micheal 
> 
> May you have the best birthday ever !
> 
> Love forever
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sat Nov 26 10:06:20 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sat Nov 26 10:16:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
In-Reply-To: <20051126121742.8202783FB6@lax-gw03.mroute.net>
Message-ID: <BFADE41C.2623E%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Corinne,
Thanks so much
Lots of Love,
Michael
> Michael
> 
> You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view your
> card please click on the following link:
> 
> http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461
> 
> OR
> 
> Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.
> 
> OR
> 
> Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick Up'
> from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes
> provided.
> 
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From hotprojects at nyc.rr.com  Sat Nov 26 10:07:36 2005
From: hotprojects at nyc.rr.com (richard haase)
Date: Sat Nov 26 10:17:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] lets hear it for our two heros
Message-ID: <004d01c5f2b4$49c06db0$f1476c42@hotprojects>

for our two michaels
hip hip hooray
a hundred years of happiness

R
in 
NYC
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From VinUschi at t-online.de  Sat Nov 26 05:09:06 2005
From: VinUschi at t-online.de (Vincent Edwards)
Date: Sat Nov 26 12:10:58 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] have a good one
Message-ID: <43885E73.5AA67FE7@t-online.de>

happy happy birthday michael have a wonderful year  love and peace
vincent

From raesing4u at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 26 12:48:33 2005
From: raesing4u at yahoo.com (rachel anderson)
Date: Sat Nov 26 12:58:14 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
In-Reply-To: <BFADDF4B.26236%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <20051126204833.83463.qmail@web51803.mail.yahoo.com>

michael, happy, happy birthday!  i'm thinking of the
year we were all together for our birthdays...rmember
that?  FREEZING in moscow!!??  hope you're warmer this
year!!

much love!!  rachel (krishna)

--- Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com> wrote:

> Robin,
> Thanks
> Michael
> > Micheal 
> > 
> > May you have the best birthday ever !
> > 
> > Love forever
> > Robin
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From akrpan at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 26 14:11:08 2005
From: akrpan at earthlink.net (Anita Krpan)
Date: Sat Nov 26 14:20:50 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 17, Issue 30
In-Reply-To: <200511262000.jAQK0DYZ020897@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <DFEGJJOAKCHAKGLIFHHHOEMCDHAA.akrpan@earthlink.net>

Dearest Michael,

Have the Happiest of Birthdays!  I know I am very glad you were born on this
day!
Your vision and support gave all of us what was probably our first
professional
theatre experience and the beginnings of our dreams.  You brought us on your
journey and we are forever grateful.  On this special day I wish you love,
abundance,
perfect health and a long life, happiness, and even more success and
fulfillment.
You deserve all life's very best!

Love always,

Anita



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Today's Topics:

   1. Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On Relations	With
      Alien "Et" Civilizations (Jonathon Johnson)
   2. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (Robin McNamara)
   3. Corinne sent you a card (venuetheatre@juno.com)
   4. Re: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (richard haase)
   5. Happy Birthday, Michael! (William Swiggard)
   6. RE: Happy Birthday, Michael! (Little Birdie)
   7. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (richard haase)
   8. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (Little Birdie)
   9. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (richard haase)
  10. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL! (Jonathon Johnson)
  11. Re: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (Michael Butler)
  12. Re: Corinne sent you a card (Michael Butler)
  13. lets hear it for our two heros (richard haase)



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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:54:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On
	Relations	With Alien "Et" Civilizations
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051125205430.57557.qmail@web52712.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Jonathon Johnson (peace2b@sbcglobal.net) has sent you a news article.

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Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament Asked To
Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "Et" Civilizations - Yahoo! News

http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20051124/bs_prweb/prweb314382




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Micheal

May you have the best birthday ever !

Love forever
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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:17:33 +0000
From: venuetheatre@juno.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <20051126121742.8202783FB6@lax-gw03.mroute.net>
Content-Type: text/plain

Michael

You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view your
card please click on the following link:

http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461

OR

Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.

OR

Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick
Up' from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes
provided.



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:47:02 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c5f287$80360da0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

is it michaels birthday again
it seems like it was just michaels birthday
michael butler or michael arian? ( eg from lamama )
anyone whichever the best birthday and best wishes
gambai
cine dane
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Robin McNamara
  To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:06 AM
  Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"


  Micheal

  May you have the best birthday ever !

  Love forever
  Robin






  http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:49:59 -0500
From: William Swiggard <swiggard@comcast.net>
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <43886807.8040505@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Dearest Michael -

Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
loving friends and family, and abundant good health!

Love always -
Bill


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:56:39 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <BAY104-F259A7C62ECCEC3E1A8C0E5B2560@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Dear Michael,

Wishing you the happiest of birthdays, and a new year filled with love and
laughter.
Much love,
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c5f299$a44e9a60$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
IM FLIPPED
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
ASPIRE TO
WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL

R
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!


> Dearest Michael -
>
> Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
>
> Love always -
> Bill
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:04:07 +0000
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Message-ID: <BAY104-F32F4A7BE7444C61270D26FB2560@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael
Butler's.
Nina

The Hair Archives
http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html




>From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
>Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
>
>IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
>IM FLIPPED
>HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
>A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
>AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
>YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
>ASPIRE TO
>WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
>
>R
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
>To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
>Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
>
>
> > Dearest Michael -
> >
> > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> >
> > Love always -
> > Bill
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:06:12 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <000601c5f29a$f0eb8760$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

ALL RIGHT
WELL THEN ALL LOVE TO MICHAEL BUTLER
AND MORE LOVE TO MICHAEL ARIAN
A HUNDRED MORE CINE DANE
TO HIM TOO

WHAT A COINCIDENCE
HOW WONDERFUL
ALL BLESSINGS TO BOTH OF THEM THEN


----- Original Message -----
From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!


> It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael
> Butler's.
> Nina
>
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
> >
> >IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
> >IM FLIPPED
> >HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
> >A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
> >AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
> >YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
> >ASPIRE TO
> >WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
> >
> >R
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
> >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
> >Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> >
> >
> > > Dearest Michael -
> > >
> > > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> > >
> > > Love always -
> > > Bill
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mb-hair mailing list
> > > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> >_______________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:28:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com, michael@michaelbutler.com
Message-ID: <20051126152836.27072.qmail@web52713.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Happy Birthday Michael! May you have many, many more!

  Love ~ Jonathon


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good HAIR Days: A Personal Journey with the American Tribal Love-Rock
Musical HAIR, by Jonathon Johnson. For more information on the book and how
to order it, visit www.goodhairdays.net.





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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:45:47 -0800
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <BFADDF4B.26236%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Robin,
Thanks
Michael
> Micheal
>
> May you have the best birthday ever !
>
> Love forever
> Robin
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:06:20 -0800
From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
Message-ID: <BFADE41C.2623E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Corinne,
Thanks so much
Lots of Love,
Michael
> Michael
>
> You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view
your
> card please click on the following link:
>
> http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461
>
> OR
>
> Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.
>
> OR
>
> Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick
Up'
> from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes
> provided.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mb-hair mailing list
> Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:07:36 -0500
From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: [Mb-hair] lets hear it for our two heros
To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>, <mb-civic@islandemail.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c5f2b4$49c06db0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

for our two michaels
hip hip hooray
a hundred years of happiness

R
in
NYC
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From bev at beverlybremers.com  Sat Nov 26 14:36:37 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Sat Nov 26 14:46:21 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthday Michael!
Message-ID: <20051126223637.A8085EE1D3@ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com>

The very happiest of birthdays to both Michaels! 

And Michael B., I hope every day is filled with the kind of joy you've given all of us - your Hair family. You're the greatest!

And, as a wise Indian chief once said, "Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe"!

Beverly


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Krpan" <akrpan@earthlink.net>
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE: Mb-hair Digest, Vol 17, Issue 30
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:11:08 -0600

> 
> Dearest Michael,
> 
> Have the Happiest of Birthdays!  I know I am very glad you were born on this
> day!
> Your vision and support gave all of us what was probably our first
> professional
> theatre experience and the beginnings of our dreams.  You brought us on your
> journey and we are forever grateful.  On this special day I wish you love,
> abundance,
> perfect health and a long life, happiness, and even more success and
> fulfillment.
> You deserve all life's very best!
> 
> Love always,
> 
> Anita
> 
> 
> 
> Send Mb-hair mailing list submissions to
> 	mb-hair@islandlists.com
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	mb-hair-request@islandlists.com
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	mb-hair-owner@islandlists.com
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Mb-hair digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>     1. Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On Relations	With
>        Alien "Et" Civilizations (Jonathon Johnson)
>     2. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (Robin McNamara)
>     3. Corinne sent you a card (venuetheatre@juno.com)
>     4. Re: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (richard haase)
>     5. Happy Birthday, Michael! (William Swiggard)
>     6. RE: Happy Birthday, Michael! (Little Birdie)
>     7. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (richard haase)
>     8. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (Little Birdie)
>     9. Re: Happy Birthday, Michael! (richard haase)
>    10. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL! (Jonathon Johnson)
>    11. Re: "HAPPY BIRTHDAY" (Michael Butler)
>    12. Re: Corinne sent you a card (Michael Butler)
>    13. lets hear it for our two heros (richard haase)
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:54:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Canadian Parliament Asked To Hold Hearings On
> 	Relations	With Alien "Et" Civilizations
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <20051125205430.57557.qmail@web52712.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Jonathon Johnson (peace2b@sbcglobal.net) has sent you a news article.
> 
>    ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asks Canadian Parliament Asked To
> Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "Et" Civilizations - Yahoo! News
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20051124/bs_prweb/prweb314382
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Good HAIR Days: A Personal Journey with the American Tribal Love-Rock
> Musical HAIR, by Jonathon Johnson. For more information on the book and how
> to order it, visit www.goodhairdays.net.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:06:29 -0500
> From: "Robin McNamara" <olhippie@tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <002901c5f260$4eb5d9d0$97bc2041@CowBox>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Micheal
> 
> May you have the best birthday ever !
> 
> Love forever
> Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:17:33 +0000
> From: venuetheatre@juno.com
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <20051126121742.8202783FB6@lax-gw03.mroute.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Michael
> 
> You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view your
> card please click on the following link:
> 
> http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461
> 
> OR
> 
> Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.
> 
> OR
> 
> Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick
> Up' from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes
> provided.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:47:02 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <00b101c5f287$80360da0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> is it michaels birthday again
> it seems like it was just michaels birthday
> michael butler or michael arian? ( eg from lamama )
> anyone whichever the best birthday and best wishes
> gambai
> cine dane
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Robin McNamara
>    To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
>    Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:06 AM
>    Subject: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
> 
> 
>    Micheal
> 
>    May you have the best birthday ever !
> 
>    Love forever
>    Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    http://lpintop.tripod.com/robinmcnamara
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:49:59 -0500
> From: William Swiggard <swiggard@comcast.net>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <43886807.8040505@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Dearest Michael -
> 
> Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> 
> Love always -
> Bill
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:56:39 +0000
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <BAY104-F259A7C62ECCEC3E1A8C0E5B2560@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> 
> Dear Michael,
> 
> Wishing you the happiest of birthdays, and a new year filled with love and
> laughter.
> Much love,
> Nina
> 
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <001c01c5f299$a44e9a60$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
> IM FLIPPED
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
> A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
> AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
> YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
> ASPIRE TO
> WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
> 
> R
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
> Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> 
> 
> > Dearest Michael -
> >
> > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> >
> > Love always -
> > Bill
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mb-hair mailing list
> > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:04:07 +0000
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> Message-ID: <BAY104-F32F4A7BE7444C61270D26FB2560@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> 
> It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael
> Butler's.
> Nina
> 
> The Hair Archives
> http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> > Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
> >
> > IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
> > IM FLIPPED
> > HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
> > A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
> > AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
> > YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
> > ASPIRE TO
> > WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
> >
> > R
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
> > To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
> > Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> >
> >
> > > Dearest Michael -
> > >
> > > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> > >
> > > Love always -
> > > Bill
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mb-hair mailing list
> > > Mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > > http://www.islandlists.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mb-hair
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:06:12 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <000601c5f29a$f0eb8760$f1476c42@hotprojects>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> ALL RIGHT
> WELL THEN ALL LOVE TO MICHAEL BUTLER
> AND MORE LOVE TO MICHAEL ARIAN
> A HUNDRED MORE CINE DANE
> TO HIM TOO
> 
> WHAT A COINCIDENCE
> HOW WONDERFUL
> ALL BLESSINGS TO BOTH OF THEM THEN
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Little Birdie" <lbirdie@hotmail.com>
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> 
> 
> > It is Michael Arian's birthday that we just celebrated. Today is Michael
> > Butler's.
> > Nina
> >
> > The Hair Archives
> > http://www.michaelbutler.com/hair/holding/Hair.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
> > >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> > >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500
> > >
> > >IT SEEMS LIKE WE JUST CELEBRATED MICHAELS BIRTHDAY
> > >IM FLIPPED
> > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY AGAIN MICHAEL
> > >A HUNDRED YEARS OF HAPPINESS
> > >AND MORE BRILLINT PRODUCING YET TO COME
> > >YOU SET THE STANDARD TO WHICH WE WHO HAVE COME IN YOUR PATH
> > >ASPIRE TO
> > >WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL
> > >
> > >R
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "William Swiggard" <swiggard@comcast.net>
> > >To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> > >Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:49 AM
> > >Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dearest Michael -
> > > >
> > > > Hope this is the first day in a year full of thrilling adventures,
> > > > loving friends and family, and abundant good health!
> > > >
> > > > Love always -
> > > > Bill
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:28:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!
> To: mb-hair@islandlists.com, michael@michaelbutler.com
> Message-ID: <20051126152836.27072.qmail@web52713.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Happy Birthday Michael! May you have many, many more!
> 
>    Love ~ Jonathon
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:45:47 -0800
> From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
> To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
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> Robin,
> Thanks
> Michael
> > Micheal
> >
> > May you have the best birthday ever !
> >
> > Love forever
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:06:20 -0800
> From: Michael Butler <michael@michaelbutler.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mb-hair] Corinne sent you a card
> To: HAIR List <mb-hair@islandlists.com>
> Message-ID: <BFADE41C.2623E%michael@michaelbutler.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Corinne,
> Thanks so much
> Lots of Love,
> Michael
> > Michael
> >
> > You have been sent a card from Corinne (venuetheatre@juno.com). To view
> your
> > card please click on the following link:
> >
> > http://www.birthdayalarm.com/card/22466325a7661461
> >
> > OR
> >
> > Copy and paste the above link into your web browser's "address" window.
> >
> > OR
> >
> > Visit www.birthdayalarm.com, click on the 'eCards' tab then click on 'Pick
> Up'
> > from the sub-menu. Enter the numbers 22466325 and 7661461 in the boxes
> > provided.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:07:36 -0500
> From: "richard haase" <hotprojects@nyc.rr.com>
> Subject: [Mb-hair] lets hear it for our two heros
> To: <mb-hair@islandlists.com>, <mb-civic@islandemail.com>
> Message-ID: <004d01c5f2b4$49c06db0$f1476c42@hotprojects>
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> for our two michaels
> hip hip hooray
> a hundred years of happiness
> 
> R
> in
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From bev at beverlybremers.com  Sat Nov 26 14:38:38 2005
From: bev at beverlybremers.com (Beverly Bremers)
Date: Sat Nov 26 14:48:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: George Carlin Quote
Message-ID: <20051126223838.498CFEE252@ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com>

Thanks for the sentiment, but George Carlin never wrote that. It's an
urban legend.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Hawaiipolo@cs.com
  To: becca@hawaii.rr.com, mehawaii@earthlink.net
  Subject: [Mb-hair] (no subject)
  Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:29:49 EST

  HAPPY TAHNKSGIVING AND ALOHA AMIGOS....MD


  GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)


  Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - gross and
  Mouthy comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write
  Something so very eloquent ..and so very
  Appropriate .

  A wonderful Message by George Carlin:

  The paradox of our time in history is that we have
  Taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider
  Freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more,
  But have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have
  Bigger houses and smaller families, more
  Conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees
  But less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment,
  More experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but
  Less wellness.

  We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too
  Recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get
  Too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read
  Too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.
  We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our
  Values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate
  Too often.

  We've learned how to make a living, but not a life.
  We've added years to life not life to years. We've
  Been all the way to the moon and back, but have
  Trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor.
  We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've
  Done larger things, but not better things.

  We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul.
  We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We
  Write more, but learn less. We plan more, but
  Accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to
  Wait. We build more computers to hold more
  Information, to produce more copies than ever, but
  We communicate less and less.

  These are the times of fast foods and slow
  Digestion, big men and small character, steep
  Profits and shallow relationships. These are the
  Days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier
  Houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick
  Trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one
  Night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do
  Everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a
  Time when there is much in the showroom window and
  Nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can
  Bring this letter to you, and a time when you can
  Choose either to share this insight, or to just hit
  Delete.

  Remember, spend some time with your loved ones,
  Because they are not going to be around forever.

  Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to
  You in awe, because that little person soon will
  Grow up and leave your side.

  Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you,
  Because that is the only treasure you can give with
  Your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

  Remember, to say, "I love you" to your partner and
  Your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and
  An embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep
  Inside of you.

  Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for
  Someday that person will not be there again.

  Give time to love, give time to speak,! And give time
  To share the precious thoughts in your mind.

  AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:

  Life is not measured by the number of breaths we
  Take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

  If you don't send this to at least 8 people....

  Who cares?

  George Carlin

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From paul at paulkorda.com  Sat Nov 26 15:39:21 2005
From: paul at paulkorda.com (Paul Korda)
Date: Sat Nov 26 15:46:57 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] RE:Many Happy Returns Michael
In-Reply-To: <200511262000.jAQK0DYa020897@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <000001c5f2e2$a3026120$49a5e704@pkorda>

Dear Michael,
Here's wishing that your well balanced point of view lasts a very long
time! Happy Birthday.

Paul 
http://PaulKorda.com   
 

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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 26 18:10:00 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Sat Nov 26 18:19:38 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!
Message-ID: <20051127021000.63217.qmail@web50309.mail.yahoo.com>

I want to thank all of you for your greetings and thoughts for my birthday.It feels good
to share your greetings with Michael and I want to add mine to him now too.Happy birthday
Michael and thank you for making that turn into the Public Theater lo so many years ago.I
cannot imagine my life without Hair and everything it has brought my
way.XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX M

Michael David Arian 
michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
"If you can't say something nice about someone, sit by me."





	
		
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From goodhairdays at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 26 19:53:57 2005
From: goodhairdays at yahoo.com (Jonathon Johnson)
Date: Sat Nov 26 20:04:09 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!
In-Reply-To: <20051127021000.63217.qmail@web50309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051127035357.65031.qmail@web52702.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Michael A.....Happy belated Birthday!
   
  Love ~ Jonathon

Michael Arian <michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com> wrote:
  I want to thank all of you for your greetings and thoughts for my birthday.It feels good
to share your greetings with Michael and I want to add mine to him now too.Happy birthday
Michael and thank you for making that turn into the Public Theater lo so many years ago.I
cannot imagine my life without Hair and everything it has brought my
way.XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX M

Michael David Arian 
michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
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From peacefreak at metrocast.net  Sat Nov 26 20:24:19 2005
From: peacefreak at metrocast.net (Leo)
Date: Sat Nov 26 20:34:14 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Re: Happy Birthday, Michael!
References: <200511262000.jAQK0DYZ020897@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <000a01c5f30a$6fc23bf0$6401a8c0@Leo>

Big time happy birthday to you Michael. I hope that it ended up being a 
special day for you and a day in which you got to do what you wanted!

PEACE,
Leo 


From jpzuehlke at prodigy.net  Sun Nov 27 02:46:56 2005
From: jpzuehlke at prodigy.net (John Zuehlke)
Date: Sun Nov 27 02:57:36 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday Anniversary, Michael
Message-ID: <000e01c5f33f$e672ce60$7348e804@0019448444>

Hebe and I just want to wish you a wonderful birthday anniversary and many
many years of peace and happiness!

John & Hebe


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Sun Nov 27 10:52:24 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Sun Nov 27 11:02:16 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!
In-Reply-To: <20051127021000.63217.qmail@web50309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BFAF4068.26297%michael@michaelbutler.com>

And to you Michael, how nice to have close days.
Peace and Love,
Michael

-- Carpe Diem



> I want to thank all of you for your greetings and thoughts for my birthday.It
> feels good
> to share your greetings with Michael and I want to add mine to him now
> too.Happy birthday
> Michael and thank you for making that turn into the Public Theater lo so many
> years ago.I
> cannot imagine my life without Hair and everything it has brought my
> way.XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX M
> 
> Michael David Arian
> michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
> "If you can't say something nice about someone, sit by me."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From michael at intrafi.com  Sun Nov 27 11:48:13 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Sun Nov 27 11:58:13 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] NYTimes.com: Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt ...
Message-ID: <20051127194813.99AF483FF8@lax-gw03.mroute.net>

This page was sent to you by: michael@intrafi.com.

OPINION | November 27, 2005
Op-Ed Columnist: Dishonest, Reprehensible, Corrupt ...
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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Sun Nov 27 11:57:15 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Sun Nov 27 12:07:17 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Why I Hate College Football...
In-Reply-To: mb-hair-request@islandlists.com's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2005
	12:00:13 -0800
Message-ID: <27896-438A0F9B-6171@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net>


Well, one of the reasons...

(And, ironically, perhaps, I love the pro game...!)
____

THE QUICK FIX | EASY GRADES FOR ATHLETES

"Poor Grades Aside, Athletes Get Into College on a $399 Diploma"

By PETE THAMEL and DUFF WILSON
The New York Times
Published: November 27, 2005

By the end of his junior year at Miami Killian High School, Demetrice
Morley flashed the speed, size and talent of a top college football
prospect. His classroom performance, however, failed to match his
athletic skills. 

He received three F's that year and had a 2.09 grade point average in
his core courses, giving him little hope of qualifying for a scholarship
under National Collegiate Athletic Association guidelines. 

In December of his senior year, Morley led Killian to the 2004 state
title while taking a full course load. He also took seven courses at
University High School, a local correspondence school, scoring all A's
and B's. He graduated that December, not from Killian but from
University High. His grade point average in his core courses was 2.75,
precisely what he wound up needing to qualify for a scholarship. 
Morley, now a freshman defensive back for the University of Tennessee,
was one of at least 28 athletes who polished their grades at University
High in the last two years. 

The New York Times identified 14 who had signed with 11 Division I
football programs: Auburn, Central Florida, Colorado State, Florida,
Florida State, Florida International, Rutgers, South Carolina State,
South Florida, Tennessee and Temple.

University High, which has no classes and no educational accreditation,
appears to have offered the players little more than a speedy academic
makeover.

The school's program illustrates that even as the N.C.A.A. presses for
academic reforms, its loopholes are quickly recognized and exploited.
Athletes who graduated from University High acknowledged that they
learned little there, but were grateful that it enabled them to qualify
for college scholarships.

Lorenzo Ferguson, a second-year defensive back at Auburn, said he left
Miami Southridge High School for University High, where after one month
he had raised his average to 2.6 from 2.0. 

"You take each course you failed in ninth or 10th grade," he said. "If
it was applied math, you do them on the packets they give you. It didn't
take that long. The answers were basically in the book."

The N.C.A.A. has allowed students to use correspondence school courses
to meet eligibility requirements since 2000. That year, the N.C.A.A.
also shifted the power to determine which classes count as core courses
to high school administrators. In doing so, it essentially left schools
to determine their own legitimacy. 

"We're not the educational accreditation police," Diane Dickman, the
N.C.A.A.'s managing director for membership services, said in September.

But last week, Myles Brand, president of the N.C.A.A., said he would
form a group to examine issues involving correspondence courses and high
school credentials. Brand acted partly in response to a letter sent on
Nov. 2 from the Southeastern Conference that highlighted cases similar
to Morley's and Ferguson's. 

The man who founded University High School and owned it until last year,
Stanley J. Simmons, served 10 months in a federal prison camp from 1989
to 1990 after pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud for his
involvement with a college diploma mill in Arizona. Among the activities
Simmons acknowledged in court documents were awarding degrees without
academic achievement and awarding degrees based on studies he was
unqualified to evaluate. 

In interviews last week, he said he should never have pleaded guilty and
that he operated legitimate correspondence schools for adults.
In 2004, Simmons sold University High to Michael R. Kinney, its
director. Kinney, 27, who was arrested on a marijuana possession charge
in 2003 and is wanted on a bench warrant, declined to comment, despite
requests by phone, fax and visits to his apartment.

Several University High graduates said they found the school through
Antron Wright, a former XFL and Arena Football League player who is
prominent in Miami's high school athletic circles. He is considered a
savior by some players, but one principal has barred Wright from his
building for luring athletes to a rival school and introducing them to
University High.

Miami has ideal conditions for academic-athletic exploitation. It is
fertile recruiting ground: 38 players from Dade County were on N.F.L.
rosters at the start of the 2004 season, more than any other county.
Also, Florida's public schools require an exit examination for
graduation, but private schools have no such requirement, and operate
under a law that prohibits any state regulation. That allows University
High to operate essentially unsupervised. 

Pat Herring, the interim admissions director at the University of
Florida, looked into University High after admitting one of its
graduates, Dane Guthrie, a former Killian tight end. "We found that
University High School was kind of a storefront operation," Herring
said. "It didn't seem to have much in the way of an academic program." 

While Florida officials were discussing whether to allow Guthrie to
remain, he transferred to Arizona State.

Other colleges that have admitted University High graduates say they
know little about it.
Auburn admitted Ferguson in 2004 and a fellow University graduate,
Ulysses Alexander, this year. "The bottom line is they were both
qualifiers by the N.C.A.A.," said Mark Richard, a senior associate
athletic director at Auburn. 

A four-member academic panel at Tennessee admitted Morley after sending
an athletic department official to Miami to investigate University High.
Morley has thrived on the field at Tennessee, but Philip Simpson has
stumbled at Temple.

Simpson, a standout quarterback at Southridge High, said Wright had met
with him and his parents and offered a sure alternative from high school
to college, telling him: "You either stay there and bust your behind and
hope and pray that at the end you don't get short-handed. Or you can do
this."

Simpson said his mother called the N.C.A.A. to check whether University
High courses would be accepted. He said he graduated in three weeks by
taking four classes, improving his average to 2.3 from 2.0. 

He now says he lacks the educational skills for college. For a basic
math class at Temple, Simpson said, he studied at least three hours
every day, got help from tutors and met regularly with the professor. He
still did not score higher than 53 out of 100 on any test. 
Simpson said Temple ruled him academically ineligible to play. He
watched this season from the sideline. 

University High School consists of two small rooms on the third floor of
an office building wedged between a Starbucks and an animal hospital on
Route 1 in south Miami. Inside are three desks, three employees and two
framed posters from art museums on the wall. 
Promotional brochures say diplomas can be earned in four to six weeks,
with open-book exams, no classes and no timed tests. A diploma costs
$399, no matter how many courses. 

In paperwork filed with the state of Florida, the school says it has six
teachers. None of the school's graduates interviewed, however, mentioned
dealing with anyone besides Kinney, the current owner, and none said
they had received any personal instruction. 

John M. McLeod, a Miami-Dade Community College educator, is identified
as the University High principal on a letter welcoming new students.
McLeod said he met Simmons in the 1970's, but that he had no connection
to University High. He said his signature had been copied.

"I've never seen this letter," he said. "I know nothing about University
High School." 
Simmons said he did not know why McLeod's signature was on the letter. 

Former students said in interviews that courses consisted of picking up
work packets from University High and completing them at home. Grades
they received on the packets counted the same on their transcripts as a
yearlong high school course. 

"If it was history, they had the story with the questions right next to
it," Simpson said. "They were one-page stories. It wasn't really hard."
University High says its textbooks are the Essential Series from
Research and Education Association of Piscataway, N.J., but their
publisher describes them as study guides.

     
 
"You wouldn't describe them as textbooks," Carl M. Fuchs, president of
Research and Education, said. "You would say they're more supplemental,
but they can be used on their own. A textbook is certainly going to have
a lot more text, a lot more information."

University High's literature claims it is accredited by the National
Association for the Legal Support of Alternative Schools. The
association's Web site says it is "not meant to represent an evaluation
and/or approval of the materials, teaching staff or educational
philosophy employed by the applicant program." It says "only one
standard is applied: consumer protection." 

The Florida Department of Education's Web site lists accreditation for
University High by the National Coalition of Alternative and Community
Schools and by the Association of Christian Schools International. But
the alternative schools coalition does not accredit high schools, and
David Ray, the Florida regional director of the Christian schools
association said, "University was never accredited and has never sought
accreditation with us."

Simmons said that he opened University High School in 2000 to serve
adults; and that the average age of about 400 current students is 36.
Football players from public schools in poor neighborhoods began
enrolling around March 2004, when University applied for membership to
the N.C.A.A. Clearinghouse, which determines if a student is eligible
and can qualify for a scholarship. Several players said Wright led them
to University High. 

Philip Simpson said that when he went to University to enroll, Kinney
was expecting him because Wright had called. Ferguson and Simpson said
they worked on their University High packets at Wright's apartment. 

Wright, 30, could relate to talented athletes with academic struggles,
some of the players said. A former star at Southridge and Palmetto High
Schools in Miami, he did not attend a Division I-A university because of
poor grades, local players and coaches said. He graduated from junior
college, then played two years at Division I-AA Bethune-Cookman. 

Wright later rooted himself in the Miami football community, serving as
an assistant coach at three schools and as a substitute teacher at Dade
County football powers. He developed a strong bond with his players.

"I thank God every time I step on the practice field for Tron," said
Keyon Brooks, a former Killian player and University High graduate now
playing for South Carolina State. "He got me here. He helped me succeed
in life. I look at him as a role model."

Tavares Kendrick, a top-rated quarterback from Homestead High, credits
Wright for helping him get to Florida International University, where he
is a backup quarterback. Kendrick said his average improved to 3.0 from
about 2.1 in about seven weeks by taking nine classes at University
High. 

"Antron is a great guy," he said. "He helps kids that have great talent
but don't have the smarts for school."

Yet Wright is barred from Southridge, partly because he lured players to
Killian and to University High. In January 2004, five football players
left Southridge and later played crucial roles on Killian's state title
team. 

"He can't come into my building," Carzell J. Morris, the principal at
Southridge, said. "Just for the fact he comes in and takes my kids out.
Kids that could probably make it if they weren't looking for the easy
way out."

Southridge Coach Rodney Hunter said Wright also encouraged Damaso Munoz,
who is now at Rutgers, to leave for University High early this year.
Robert E. Mulcahy III, the athletic director at Rutgers, said Munoz was
enrolled at the university and was paying his own way. He was admitted
by a committee of faculty and deans.

Thirteen of the 38 seniors on Killian's 2004 state title team did not
graduate with their class. Many, including Morley and Brooks, wound up
at University High.
     
 
"How legitimate is it?" Otis Collier, the athletic director at Killian,
said about Morley's improvement at University. "I don't know. I guess
it's because of me. I probably should want to know, but I don't want to
know. I don't want to know anything about it."

Wright declined multiple requests to be interviewed for this article.

By transferring to University High, students can bypass the Florida
Comprehensive Assessment Test, which is mandatory for public school
graduation, and focus on passing through the N.C.A.A. Clearinghouse. 

N.C.A.A. minimum standards require the completion of 14 core courses.
Grade-point average in those courses and standardized test scores are
rated on a scale. Students with high averages can qualify with lower
test scores and vice versa.

For example, after Morley's junior year at Killian, a computer program
used to project eligibility showed him graduating with about a 2.1
G.P.A., meaning he would need at least a 960 on the SAT. At University,
he raised his average to 2.75, so his 720 SAT score was exactly what he
needed to qualify. 

Although the standardized testing services flag suspicious jumps in
scores, there is no similar alarm for grade-point averages that suddenly
go up. Assuring the legitimacy of high school credentials is one reason
Brand says he is forming the N.C.A.A. panel, which will make
recommendations by June 1. 

"We see the problem accelerating," he said. "We want to stop it as soon
as possible."

When Morley was preparing to enter college, Tennessee and the
Southeastern Conference questioned his University High transcript. Brad
Bertani, the associate athletic director for compliance at Tennessee,
went to Miami to investigate. 

Bertani, who met with Simmons for three hours, said he determined that
Morley had done his own work. But Bertani refused to comment on
University High's curriculum. 

"There's all kinds of schooling out there, whether you think it's
legitimate or not," Bertani said. "That's for the admissions people at
each school to evaluate."

Copies of Bertani's handwritten notes from the visit, obtained through a
freedom of information request, say that there were no records of
University's teachers and that no lab was required for the chemistry
course for which Morley received a B. 

Tennessee's research showed that University High School sent transcripts
from 28 athletes to the N.C.A.A. Clearinghouse.

Bertani also spent weeks investigating Morley's connection to Wright,
who accompanied Morley on his recruiting trip to Knoxville and kept in
contact with Trooper Taylor, an assistant football coach at Tennessee.
Bertani said he found no improprieties with Wright or any connection
between him and University High. 
Morley, who played defensive back and returned kicks this season, did
not respond to repeated attempts for comment by e-mail and through
Tennessee officials. His mother, Felicia Henry, demanded to know who had
told a reporter he had attended University High and said she knew
nothing about the school's academics.

Morley took a full course load at Killian while playing football, along
with seven other core courses - half the N.C.A.A. minimum for a high
school career - at University. Transcripts obtained by The New York
Times show he received four A's and three B's from University. At
Killian, he received C's in English all four years, but he got an A in
classical literature from University. Grades like that helped his G.P.A.
in core courses improve to 2.75 from 2.09 from August to December. 

Three of the four members of Tennessee's admissions panel expressed
reservations.
"I didn't see anything fraudulent or out of line," Richard Baer, the
dean of enrollment at Tennessee, said of his initial reaction to
Morley's transcript. "It looked like it could have been another
student's transcript from another institution. I didn't see anything
that struck me as saying: 'You know what? We need to look carefully at
this.' "

The other panelists reacted differently. "All of this was in my mind
very, very questionable," Anne Mayhew, the vice chancellor for academic
affairs, said. 

Todd Diacon, the head of the history department, said, "Anytime I see a
transcript like a University High School, it concerns me." 

Ruth Darling, an assistant vice chancellor for academic affairs, said,
"I always had reservations about this type of school, if students are
actually learning."     
 
In the end, the panel never voted, accepting the transcript because the
N.C.A.A. approved University High and Bertani found that Morley had done
his own work there. But when told of Simmons's fraud conviction, Mayhew
said Tennessee should have been more careful.

"I think we need to add a new layer of caution to deal with high school
diploma mills," she said. 

Tennessee Coach Phillip Fulmer lauded the university, pointing out that
no other college had visited University High. 

"I'm a Tennessee graduate as well," he said. "I want the university to
be represented in the right way." 

When describing his reasons for transferring to University High, Simpson
recalled a Southridge basketball player with Division I potential who
failed his last chance at Florida's mandatory graduation exam. 

"I still remember to this day him walking around the hallways crying,"
he said. "He was ready to fight every principal and teacher in Miami."
That image stuck with him as he struggled academically. Simpson said he
still has his ninth-grade report card showing a 0.6 grade point average.
He said he relied heavily on others to do his work.

"The basic skills I'm supposed to have from way back then," he said,
"none of them are there."
Mark Eyerly, Temple's chief communications officer, said, "It is in the
best interests of our students and of the university for us to offer
admission to students whom we believe can succeed here academically." 

Simpson said that his problems at Temple made him more determined. 

As a freshman, Simpson played defensive end and made seven tackles for a
2-9 team. Temple completed an 0-11 season this month. 
When his football career ends, he said, he sees himself in only one
place. 

"I believe that my fate is to go back to Miami and change things," he
said. "My job is to go into school systems like Miami and be a coach and
teach kids right from wrong."


E-mail: thamel@nytimes.com


? Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company


From fotoblue at flash.net  Sun Nov 27 17:17:10 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sun Nov 27 17:35:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy Birthday, Michael!
Message-ID: <380-220051112811710927@M2W103.mail2web.com>

Where has this year gone???

Happy happy birthday Michael B!

 Hope you are having a great Thanksgiving cum Birthday weekend 
and got celebrated and spoiled by friends and family!

wishing you love and joy and many moments of fun for this new year 
that has just started.

May you share many laughs and not be laughed at too often.

Here's a new critter pic from me, taken on your birthday!!
and an earlier sunset, so typical for our Arizona skies

Love and a BIG birthday hug - 
to be collected in person, hopefully sometime soon!

 Dagmar



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From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Sun Nov 27 17:36:03 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!
Message-ID: <380-220051112812619298@M2W072.mail2web.com>

Dear Michael Arian,
 Belated good wishes for your birthday too!
 I missed it, but you have been blessed with many tribal messages , so mine
- a little late -
will be  just  a spot of  "extra decoration" on the virtual birthday cake!

Hoping to meet you sometime!
Have a fabulous year!
 Dagmar

  Original Message:
-----------------
From: Michael Arian michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:10:00 -0800 (PST)
To: mb-hair@islandlists.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!


I want to thank all of you for your greetings and thoughts for my
birthday.It feels good
to share your greetings with Michael and I want to add mine to him now
too.Happy birthday
Michael and thank you for making that turn into the Public Theater lo so
many years ago.I
cannot imagine my life without Hair and everything it has brought my
way.XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX M

Michael David Arian 
michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
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From lilacamy11 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 27 19:05:26 2005
From: lilacamy11 at yahoo.com (Amy Kazan)
Date: Sun Nov 27 19:15:10 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Happy birthday Michael!
In-Reply-To: <200511280135.jAS1ZbT4024501@dune.islandtechnologies.net>
Message-ID: <20051128030526.24385.qmail@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Wishing you a wonderful birthday Michael!



- Amy

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"Life is around you and in you . . . Let the sunshine in!" - HAIR (the musical)


	
		
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From mark.petracca at verizon.net  Mon Nov 28 07:02:24 2005
From: mark.petracca at verizon.net (Mark J.Petracca)
Date: Mon Nov 28 08:47:55 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] From Bobbie's Friend's Daughter in Africa - Asante Sana,
	Tanzania
Message-ID: <E1Egm0c-0006JE-FH@smtpauth02.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

This is a rather moving account of life in Africa from a 23-year old 
daughter of my wife's best friend. MP

Subject: Asante Sana

well, it is my second consecutive Thanksgiving in Tanzania today.?There 
is a big thanksgiving dinner that some of the american volunteers here 
are putting on with over 40 people coming! But, much more than last 
year I am feeling the distance, and really missing home and wanting to 
be with my family. But, for some damn?reason, the universe keeps 
putting me here for this holiday.?Oviously, i need help really 
understanding all that i have to be thankful for.
?
Turns out, ironically, that I actually have malaria. About two days ago 
I started feeling really nauseous and achey. Then, at night in bed I 
rollercoastered through night sweats and chills. Yesterday I had a 
meeting to discuss the various theft probelms we are having at the 
Tumaini Center with bikes and spare parts, and right in the middle of 
trying to decide what kind of policy we should implement, I had to say 
"Sorry, I am listening...I just...need...to put my head down for a 
bit".? And it was all down hill from there. you can't believe the 
nasuea and dizziness!
?
I thought maybe I had an amoebo because (i promise - i wont go into 
all?the details of this reationalization?;)? mostly, i just?havent been 
here for too long and it just seemed strange that i would get malaria 
so quickly, so Gemma, the woman who runs the school out here where I 
stay, took me around 9pm last night to a small dispensary that she knew 
was going to be open. It was REALLY small, and just on the border of 
the slum area here in Arusha. Sitting, waiting for the doctor, there 
were about 5 other people in there - a mother and four children - also 
waiting to see the doctor - most of which also had malaria, one had a 
stomach amoeba. The differences between us - I was white. They were 
black. When the doctor told me the charges - (this is after a big 
fiasco of trying to figure out what medication ?'CEMENTA' was with the 
pharmacist??...turns out this was how he spelled my name!!?definitely 
a?first)
?
Anyway,?total for the consultation, the blood test?and the medication 
that would make me feel better in two days (supposedly)?was 1,800 
shillings!! (about $1.50) And I laughed in disbelief, considering a 
month ago I got a urine test in Chicago and was charged $141!? Most of 
the other people in the clinic though begged for a reduction. What is 
even more distressing is that?the majority of the people?here cannot 
afford any of it - the consultaion, the blood test, and especially the 
medicine. Nor can they afford the bed nets just to keep the mosquitos 
off of them at night. and when the?rains come at this time of year, the 
mosquitos are thick.
?
?I had heard lots about malaria before this trip, but it seems much 
more in my face now - quite literally i suppose!. When i first got 
here, two of the students in the bicycle program had malaria - and they 
refused to go home! they would rather be at class, despite the 
dizziness and nausea. That is probably because most them are coming 
from homes where one or both of their parents have died (hiv or malaria 
most likely - probably a combination of the two), they are taking care 
of younger siblings or living with extended family members and are 
often abused. Most have also been out of school for at least 2 years 
because they couldn't afford the secondary school fees - they are so 
eager to learn and so badly wanting to be in school, they don't want to 
miss a single second! Because the are on full-spnnsorship at our 
program, they are worried that it might?'go away'. they even?are 
excited about their math classes! it is amazing - the gratitude and 
eagerness to be able to be in school... and here I am, with a pretty 
low-count malaria - needing to put my head down in the middle of a 
meeting!
?
So - today?I am thankful to have been born in a country that has been 
able afford to keep a disease like malaria nonexistent - a disease that 
kills over 3 million kids per year, and many mothers and fathers. I am 
thankful??that no one in my family or any of my close friends have ever 
had malaria - and?that i never had to worry about anyone I loved 
getting it and maybe dying of it. ?And thankful I have had the chance 
to go to amazing schools, and had the security of knowing no matter 
what i would always be able to stay at school. And I am thankful for 
the opportunity to be here now, and to be able to see and to to try to 
understand how these things are affecting people who weren't as lucky 
to have been born in country like mine.
?
?Sorry about the soap-boxy long email. lets blame it on the 'sulphadar' 
medicine i just pounded. i think it is doing weird things to my brain. 
i had the most lucid dreams last night about pyrex cookware and jenny 
dubarow, a girl i went to grade school with. very odd.
?
anyway, i?am missing you all! and thinking about you a lot today.?
?
All my love,
?
Sam
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From michael at intrafi.com  Mon Nov 28 08:46:02 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Mon Nov 28 08:56:08 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Alternet: The Chosen Judge
Message-ID: <20051128164602.00D39B807D@alternet.org>


This story has been forwarded to you from
http://www.alternet.org by michael@intrafi.com



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The Chosen Judge
http://www.alternet.org/story/28609

Esther Kaplan, author of a new book about George Bush and the Christian Right, talks about the Evangelicals' new messiah: Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito. 
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From michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 28 14:01:41 2005
From: michaeldavidarian at yahoo.com (Michael Arian)
Date: Mon Nov 28 14:11:34 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] A hardy thanks!!!
In-Reply-To: <380-220051112812619298@M2W072.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <20051128220141.50192.qmail@web50302.mail.yahoo.com>

Dagmar-Thanks for the sentiment it was much appreciated.I too wish someday that we
meet.If you come thru NYC any time please don't forget me.We always have a ticket for you
at La Mama,and my heart I might add.Thanks again.XOXOX M
--- "fotoblue@flash.net" <fotoblue@flash.net> wrote:

> Dear Michael Arian,
>  Belated good wishes for your birthday too!
 

Michael David Arian 
michaeldavidarian@yahoo.com
"If you can't say something nice about someone, sit by me."





		
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From fotoblue at flash.net  Mon Nov 28 20:19:45 2005
From: fotoblue at flash.net (fotoblue@flash.net)
Date: Mon Nov 28 20:29:49 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] From Bobbie's Friend's Daughter in Africa - Asante Sana,
	Tanzania
Message-ID: <380-220051122941945817@M2W051.mail2web.com>

Thank you, Mark.

 a letter like this certainly puts things 'in perspective"...

 Dagmar

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Mark J.Petracca mark.petracca@verizon.net
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:02:24 -0500
To: evanhh@optonline.net, aintnowhere@hotmail.com, ialterman@nyc.rr.com, 
nemo1043@yahoo.com, bobz@unitedtitanium.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] From Bobbie's Friend's Daughter in Africa - Asante
Sana,Tanzania


This is a rather moving account of life in Africa from a 23-year old 
daughter of my wife's best friend. MP

Subject: Asante Sana

well, it is my second consecutive Thanksgiving in Tanzania today.?There 
is a big thanksgiving dinner that some of the american volunteers here 
are putting on with over 40 people coming! But, much more than last 
year I am feeling the distance, and really missing home and wanting to 
be with my family. But, for some damn?reason, the universe keeps 
putting me here for this holiday.?Oviously, i need help really 
understanding all that i have to be thankful for.
?
Turns out, ironically, that I actually have malaria. About two days ago 
I started feeling really nauseous and achey. Then, at night in bed I 
rollercoastered through night sweats and chills. Yesterday I had a 
meeting to discuss the various theft probelms we are having at the 
Tumaini Center with bikes and spare parts, and right in the middle of 
trying to decide what kind of policy we should implement, I had to say 
"Sorry, I am listening...I just...need...to put my head down for a 
bit".? And it was all down hill from there. you can't believe the 
nasuea and dizziness!
?
I thought maybe I had an amoebo because (i promise - i wont go into 
all?the details of this reationalization?;)? mostly, i just?havent been 
here for too long and it just seemed strange that i would get malaria 
so quickly, so Gemma, the woman who runs the school out here where I 
stay, took me around 9pm last night to a small dispensary that she knew 
was going to be open. It was REALLY small, and just on the border of 
the slum area here in Arusha. Sitting, waiting for the doctor, there 
were about 5 other people in there - a mother and four children - also 
waiting to see the doctor - most of which also had malaria, one had a 
stomach amoeba. The differences between us - I was white. They were 
black. When the doctor told me the charges - (this is after a big 
fiasco of trying to figure out what medication ?'CEMENTA' was with the 
pharmacist??...turns out this was how he spelled my name!!?definitely 
a?first)
?
Anyway,?total for the consultation, the blood test?and the medication 
that would make me feel better in two days (supposedly)?was 1,800 
shillings!! (about $1.50) And I laughed in disbelief, considering a 
month ago I got a urine test in Chicago and was charged $141!? Most of 
the other people in the clinic though begged for a reduction. What is 
even more distressing is that?the majority of the people?here cannot 
afford any of it - the consultaion, the blood test, and especially the 
medicine. Nor can they afford the bed nets just to keep the mosquitos 
off of them at night. and when the?rains come at this time of year, the 
mosquitos are thick.
?
?I had heard lots about malaria before this trip, but it seems much 
more in my face now - quite literally i suppose!. When i first got 
here, two of the students in the bicycle program had malaria - and they 
refused to go home! they would rather be at class, despite the 
dizziness and nausea. That is probably because most them are coming 
from homes where one or both of their parents have died (hiv or malaria 
most likely - probably a combination of the two), they are taking care 
of younger siblings or living with extended family members and are 
often abused. Most have also been out of school for at least 2 years 
because they couldn't afford the secondary school fees - they are so 
eager to learn and so badly wanting to be in school, they don't want to 
miss a single second! Because the are on full-spnnsorship at our 
program, they are worried that it might?'go away'. they even?are 
excited about their math classes! it is amazing - the gratitude and 
eagerness to be able to be in school... and here I am, with a pretty 
low-count malaria - needing to put my head down in the middle of a 
meeting!
?
So - today?I am thankful to have been born in a country that has been 
able afford to keep a disease like malaria nonexistent - a disease that 
kills over 3 million kids per year, and many mothers and fathers. I am 
thankful??that no one in my family or any of my close friends have ever 
had malaria - and?that i never had to worry about anyone I loved 
getting it and maybe dying of it. ?And thankful I have had the chance 
to go to amazing schools, and had the security of knowing no matter 
what i would always be able to stay at school. And I am thankful for 
the opportunity to be here now, and to be able to see and to to try to 
understand how these things are affecting people who weren't as lucky 
to have been born in country like mine.
?
?Sorry about the soap-boxy long email. lets blame it on the 'sulphadar' 
medicine i just pounded. i think it is doing weird things to my brain. 
i had the most lucid dreams last night about pyrex cookware and jenny 
dubarow, a girl i went to grade school with. very odd.
?
anyway, i?am missing you all! and thinking about you a lot today.?
?
All my love,
?
Sam


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From IHHS at aol.com  Tue Nov 29 08:04:36 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 29 09:16:23 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] England, homeopathic practice success
Message-ID: <E1Eh8vZ-0001bd-1X@smtpauth09.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

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From michael at intrafi.com  Tue Nov 29 08:26:09 2005
From: michael at intrafi.com (michael@intrafi.com)
Date: Tue Nov 29 09:41:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] So Help Us Our Guardian Deities
Message-ID: <200511291626.jATGQ9R27066@linux19272.dn.net>



So Help Us Our Guardian Deities

The U.S. Constitution doesn’t mention God or any specific religion. But if it did, it would place the United States in the company of nations like these...

by 

November/December 2005 Issue

     
     AFGHANISTAN “…no law shall run counter to the principles of the sacred religion of Islam…”
     ALBANIA “…with faith in God and/or other universal values…”
     BAHRAIN “…the Qur’an has been remiss in nothing.”
     BHUTAN “Blessed with…the protection of our guardian deities…”
     INDONESIA “…the sovereign Republic of Indonesia which is based on the belief in the One and Only God…”
     IRELAND “In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred…. Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial…”
     NEPAL “Nepal is a multiethnic, multilingual, democratic, independent, indivisible, sovereign, Hindu and Constitutional Monarchical Kingdom.”
     NORTH KOREA “Comrade Kim Il Sung was a genius ideological theoretician and a genius art leader, an ever victorious, iron-willed brilliant commander, a great revolutionary and politician, and a great human being. Comrade Kim Il Sung’s great idea and achievements in leadership are the eternal treasures of the nation…”
     PAKISTAN “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust…”
     RWANDA “Trusting in God Almighty…”
     SAUDI ARABIA “The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a sovereign Arab Islamic state with Islam as its religion; God’s Book and the Sunnah of His Prophet, God’s prayers and peace be upon him, are its constitution…”



     
@2005 The Foundation for National Progress

Read the article online:

     http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2005/12/guardian_deities.html
     
Check out the latest from Mother Jones at:

     http://www.motherjones.com
     
From DustyWright at aol.com  Wed Nov 23 07:40:30 2005
From: DustyWright at aol.com (DustyWright@aol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 29 11:14:44 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] CultureCatch.com - Fat From Culture No Turkey
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Nov 29 07:57:58 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Nov 29 11:17:40 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Decadent America must give up imperial ambitions
Message-ID: <BFB1E4B6.263D4%michael@michaelbutler.com>


 
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Decadent America must give up imperial ambitions
>By Anatol Lieven
>Published: November 28 2005 20:20 | Last updated: November 28 2005 20:20
>>

US global power, as presently conceived by the overwhelming majority of the
US establishment, is unsustainable. To place American power on a firmer
footing requires putting it on a more limited footing. Despite the lessons
of Iraq, this is something that American policymakers ? Democrat and
Republican, civilian and military ? still find extremely difficult to think
about.

The basic reasons why the American empire is bust are familiar from other
imperial histories. The empire can no longer raise enough taxes or soldiers,
it is increasingly indebted and key vassal states are no longer reliable. In
an equally classical fashion, central to what is happening is the greed and
decadence of the imperial elites. Like so many of their predecessors, the US
wealthy classes have gained a grip over the state that allows them to escape
taxation. Mass acquiescence in this has to be bought with much smaller ? but
fiscally equally damaging ? cuts to taxes on the middle classes.

The result is that the empire can no longer pay for enough of the
professional troops it needs to fulfil its self-assumed imperial tasks. It
cannot introduce conscription because of the general demilitarisation of
society and also because elite youths are no longer prepared to set an
example of leadership and sacrifice by serving themselves. The result is
that the US is incapable of waging more wars of occupation, such as in Iraq.
It can defeat other states in battle easily enough but it cannot turn them
into loyal or stable allies. War therefore means simply creating more and
more areas of anarchy and breeding grounds for terrorism.

It is important to note that this US weakness affects not only the ambitions
of the Bush administration, but also geopolitical stances wholly shared by
the Democrats. The Bush administration deserves to be savagely criticised
for the timing and the conduct of the Iraq war. Future historians may,
however, conclude that President Bill Clinton?s strategy of the 1990s would
also have made the conquest of Iraq unavoidable sooner or later; and that
given the realities of Iraqi society and history, the results would not have
been significantly less awful. For that matter, can present US strategy
against Iran ? supported by both parties ? be sustained permanently without
war? Indeed, given the nature of the Middle East, may it not be that any
power wishing to exercise hegemony in the region would have to go to war at
regular intervals in defence of its authority or its local clients?

Furthermore, the relative decline in US economic independence means that,
unlike in 1917 or 1941, really serious war risks US economic disaster. Even
a limited US-Chinese clash over Taiwan would be likely to produce
catastrophic economic consequences for both sides.

In theory, the desirable US response to its imperial overstretch is simple
and has been advocated by some leading independent US thinkers such as
Professor Stephen Walt of Harvard.* It is to fall back on ?offshore
balancing?, intended to create regional coalitions against potential
aggressors and, when possible, regional consensuses in support of order and
stability. Not just a direct military presence, but direct military
commitments and alliances should be avoided wherever possible.

When, however, one traces what this might mean in practice in various parts
of the world, it becomes clear how utterly unacceptable much of this
approach would be to the entire existing US political order. In the former
Soviet Union, it could mean accepting a qualified form of Russian sphere of
influence. In Asia, it could mean backing Japan and other countries against
any Chinese aggression, but also defusing the threat of confrontation with
China by encouraging the reintegration of Taiwan into the mainland. In the
Middle East, it could involve separating US goals from Israeli ones and
seeking detente with Iran.

Impossible today, some at least of these moves may, however, prove
inescapable in a generation?s time. For it is pointless to dream of long
maintaining an American empire for which most Americans will neither pay nor
fight. My fear though is that, rather than as a result of carefully planned
and peaceful strategy, this process may occur through disastrous defeats, in
the course of which American global power will not be qualified but
destroyed altogether, with potentially awful consequences for the world.

>

The writer is a senior research fellow at the New America Foundation. His
latest book is America Right or Wrong: An Anatomy of American Nationalism.

*Stephen M. Walt, Taming American Power: The Global Response to US Primacy
(W.W. Norton, 2005)
>
>
>
 
 
 
 


From michael at michaelbutler.com  Tue Nov 29 11:40:58 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Tue Nov 29 18:40:25 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MANY THANKS
Message-ID: <BFB218FA.263FE%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Cara, Richard, Linda, Bill, Barbara, Xavier, Paul, Richard H, Bob, Tig,
Sherwin, Robin, Nina, Jonathon, Natalie, Michael D, Corrine, Jim, Vincent,
Beverly, Anita, Aleita, Katie, Paul, Debbie&Mike, Patrice, Michael A, Toni,
Leo, John&Hebe, Bo&Dawn, Dagmar, Amy, Laurie
Thank you so much. It is something else having you as friends,
Peace and Love,
Michael

--Those who have experienced altered forms of consciousness, by whatever
means, never forget that space in which they have been. Now that they have
learned how to function within the system, it is time they act to run it. MB




From richalmack at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 29 20:38:44 2005
From: richalmack at earthlink.net (Rich Almack)
Date: Tue Nov 29 20:49:19 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] MANY THANKS
In-Reply-To: <BFB218FA.263FE%michael@michaelbutler.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c5f567$f2a4cb50$0200a8c0@Sally>

Well.  I'm only guessing this is going to add to your thread Michael, and I
hope it does.  The obvious is this.  It's we who thank you; and for your
thanks, you are a million times welcomed.  You are a very cool guy who made
it possible for a whole lot of us to experience a once in a lifetime moment.
The moment continues, the space in which we've been is like space.  It
doesn't really end, and is easy to go back to. For me, the running of some
system is going to have to skip a generation.  My kid and most of the kids
I've met from his high school are so cool.  They all seem to have parents
with the same values we share, and they all seem to be headed in the right
diretion. It's sort of like inbreeding.  There are a lot of us, there are
more of them, and there will be more like them.  We'll watch from the wings.


-----Original Message-----
From: mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com
[mailto:mb-hair-bounces@islandlists.com] On Behalf Of Michael Butler
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:41 AM
To: HAIR List
Subject: [Mb-hair] MANY THANKS

Cara, Richard, Linda, Bill, Barbara, Xavier, Paul, Richard H, Bob, Tig,
Sherwin, Robin, Nina, Jonathon, Natalie, Michael D, Corrine, Jim, Vincent,
Beverly, Anita, Aleita, Katie, Paul, Debbie&Mike, Patrice, Michael A, Toni,
Leo, John&Hebe, Bo&Dawn, Dagmar, Amy, Laurie Thank you so much. It is
something else having you as friends, Peace and Love, Michael

--Those who have experienced altered forms of consciousness, by whatever
means, never forget that space in which they have been. Now that they have
learned how to function within the system, it is time they act to run it. MB




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From jameshburns at webtv.net  Wed Nov 30 11:10:28 2005
From: jameshburns at webtv.net (Jim Burns)
Date: Wed Nov 30 11:20:43 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Galt MacDermot's New Musical
In-Reply-To: mb-civic-request@islandlists.com's message of Wed, 30 Nov 2005
	04:31:10 -0800
Message-ID: <23264-438DF924-1942@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>


Sometimes, I just scan through the messages here...

Has this not been mentioned?

http://www.playbill.com/news/article/96499.html 
THE GODDESS WHEEL, opens tonight.


Jim Burns

From georgeberger69 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 30 14:45:33 2005
From: georgeberger69 at yahoo.com (James Pappaconstantine)
Date: Wed Nov 30 14:57:06 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!
In-Reply-To: <20051126152836.27072.qmail@web52713.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20051130224533.81156.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com>

Michael, Happy Belated to you... I was hit with some bad news as of late and have not been keeping up with the times.. but slowly catching up now.. So.. Sorry it's late but my wishes are with you.
   
  Jimmy P.

Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Happy Birthday Michael! May you have many, many more!
   
  Love ~ Jonathon


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From IHHS at aol.com  Wed Nov 30 07:32:46 2005
From: IHHS at aol.com (IHHS@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 30 18:47:29 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] saving the world
Message-ID: <E1EheJq-0001Mp-OE@smtpauth10.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

     
Noah...again 
In  the year 2005, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in  New  
Zealand,  and said, "Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated and 
 I see the end of all flesh before me.  
Build  another Ark  and save two of every living thing along with a few good 
humans."
He  gave Noah the blueprints, saying, "You have six months to build the  Ark 
before I  will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights".
Six months later,  the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard.... 
but no ark.  
"Noah", He roared, "I'm about to start the rain!  Where is the Ark  ?"
"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah. "But things have changed.
-  I  needed a building permit.
-  I've been arguing with the inspector about  the need for a sprinkler 
system.
-  My neighbours claim that I've  violated the neighbourhood zoning laws by 
building the Ark in my  yard and exceeding the height limitations. 
-  We had to go to Resource  Management for a decision.
-  Then the electricity companies demanded a  bond be posted for the future 
costs of moving power lines and other overhead  obstructions, to clear the 
passage for the Ark's move  to the sea. 
-  I argued that the sea would be coming to us, but they  would hear nothing 
of it.

Getting the wood was another  problem.
-  There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the  spotted owl.
I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood  to save the 
owls.  But no go! 

When I started gathering the animals,  I got sued by an animal rights group.
They insisted that I was confining wild  animals against their will.
As well, they argued the accommodation was too  restrictive and it was cruel 
and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined  space. 

Then The Environmental Department  ruled that I couldn't  build the Ark until 
 they'd conducted an environment! al impact study on your proposed  flood.

I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights  Commission on 
how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew.  

Also, the trades unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to  hire 
only Union workers with Ark building  experience.

To make matters worse, the Tax Dept seized all my assets,  claiming I'm 
trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species.  

So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least ten years for me to  finish 
this Ark."

Suddenly  the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow stretched 
across the  sky.

Noah  looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean, You're not going to destroy 
the  world?".

"No," said  the Lord. "The government beat me to it."    



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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Wed Nov 30 18:43:54 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Wed Nov 30 18:55:28 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICHAEL!
In-Reply-To: <20051130224533.81156.qmail@web54207.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BFB3CD9A.264A6%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks so much
XO M

> Michael, Happy Belated to you... I was hit with some bad news as of late and
> have not been keeping up with the times.. but slowly catching up now.. So..
> Sorry it's late but my wishes are with you.
>  
> Jimmy P.
> 
> Jonathon Johnson <goodhairdays@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   Happy Birthday Michael! May you have many, many more!
>  
> Love ~ Jonathon
> 
> 
>       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Good HAIR Days: A Personal Journey with the American Tribal Love-Rock Musical
> HAIR, by Jonathon Johnson. For more information on the book and how to order
> it, visit www.goodhairdays.net.
> 
> 
> 
>   
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From michael at michaelbutler.com  Wed Nov 30 18:47:53 2005
From: michael at michaelbutler.com (Michael Butler)
Date: Wed Nov 30 18:59:20 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] Galt MacDermot's New Musical
In-Reply-To: <23264-438DF924-1942@storefull-3278.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <BFB3CE89.264A8%michael@michaelbutler.com>

Thanks hope it is good for him.
Michael

> 
> Sometimes, I just scan through the messages here...
> 
> Has this not been mentioned?
> 
> http://www.playbill.com/news/article/96499.html
> THE GODDESS WHEEL, opens tonight.
> 
> 
> Jim Burns
> 
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From barbarasiomos38 at msn.com  Wed Nov 30 20:22:42 2005
From: barbarasiomos38 at msn.com (Barbara Siomos)
Date: Wed Nov 30 20:33:07 2005
Subject: [Mb-hair] saving the world
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1277E9E74D0DA1886343A6AB4D0@phx.gbl>

Awesome awesome!!!........   :-)

peace,
barbara

-----Original Message-----
From: IHHS@aol.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:32:46 -0800
To: IHHS@aol.com
Subject: [Mb-hair] saving the world

     
Noah...again 
In  the year 2005, the Lord came unto Noah, who was now living in  New  
Zealand,  and said, "Once again, the earth has become wicked and over-populated and 
 I see the end of all flesh before me.  
Build  another Ark  and save two of every living thing along with a few good 
humans."
He  gave Noah the blueprints, saying, "You have six months to build the  Ark 
before I  will start the unending rain for 40 days and 40 nights".
Six months later,  the Lord looked down and saw Noah weeping in his yard... 
but no ark.  
"Noah", He roared, "I'm about to start the rain!  Where is the Ark  ?"
"Forgive me, Lord," begged Noah. "But things have changed.
-  I  needed a building permit.
-  I've been arguing with the inspector about  the need for a sprinkler 
system.
-  My neighbours claim that I've  violated the neighbourhood zoning laws by 
building the Ark in my  yard and exceeding the height limitations. 
-  We had to go to Resource  Management for a decision.
-  Then the electricity companies demanded a  bond be posted for the future 
costs of moving power lines and other overhead  obstructions, to clear the 
passage for the Ark's move  to the sea. 
-  I argued that the sea would be coming to us, but they  would hear nothing 
of it.

Getting the wood was another  problem.
-  There's a ban on cutting local trees in order to save the  spotted owl
I tried to convince the environmentalists that I needed the wood  to save the 
owls.  But no go! 

When I started gathering the animals,  I got sued by an animal rights group.
They insisted that I was confining wild  animals against their will.
As well, they argued the accommodation was too  restrictive and it was cruel 
and inhumane to put so many animals in a confined  space. 

Then The Environmental Department  ruled that I couldn't  build the Ark until 
 they'd conducted an environment! al impact study on your proposed  flood

I'm still trying to resolve a complaint with the Human Rights  Commission on 
how many minorities I'm supposed to hire for my building crew.  

Also, the trades unions say I can't use my sons. They insist I have to  hire 
only Union workers with Ark building  experience.

To make matters worse, the Tax Dept seized all my assets,  claiming I'm 
trying to leave the country illegally with endangered species.  

So, forgive me, Lord, but it would take at least ten years for me to  finish 
this Ark."

Suddenly  the skies cleared, the sun began to shine, and a rainbow stretched 
across the  sky.

Noah  looked up in wonder and asked, "You mean, You're not going to destroy 
the  world?".

"No," said  the Lord. "The government beat me to it."


